#arpnetworks 2010-10-16,Sat

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wwhiya. anyone have a good kernel config for freebsd 8.1?
i can't seem to get the aic scsi driver disabled...
if i try, make depend gives me: ../aicasm/aicasm:Permission denied
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nestamake depend? [07:52]
wwe.g. config MYCONF && cd ../compile/MYCONF && make cleandepend depend all install [07:53]
nestaoofa
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html
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wwwell... just building the kernel, not the whole system [07:53]
nestamake buildkernel KERNCONF=NAME && make installkernel KERNCONF=NAME
reboot
voila
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wwverramos... [07:55]
nestayou really won't gain much by removing tons of stuff from your config imo.. I have goten my conf down to 80 odd lines before but its just a bit silly with a vps imo
nonetheless I know the urge for fiddling
:P
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nestamake sure to cp your kernel config file to /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/
and cd /usr/src prior to the above steps
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teurastajafreebsd?
just got the last 2 lines
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nestait was intended for ww
:)
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teurastajawhat steps? [08:01]
nestabuilding kernels [08:02]
teurastajai actually wrote an entire custom guide + wrote the kernel config file for a guy on irc and he hasnt used it yet.... [08:02]
nestalol
yeah
it happens
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teurastajawith focus on performance and safety [08:03]
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wwnesta: thanks, seems to be going better now...
shame they couldn't have kept the old style build working ...
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teurastajai previously wrote a parser for him (which he used though)
the old style should work for parts of the tree
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wwteurastaja: removing the aic scsi driver, then doing "config MYCONF && cd ../compile/MYCONF && make cleandepend depend all"
seems to break on the "depend" part
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teurastajai had problems with the aic driver previously (first time i actually built a kernel) [08:07]
wwlooking for some program related to aic... [08:07]
teurastajaits a config problem [08:07]
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wwteurastaja: i started here by asking if someone has a good config already for the arpnetworks boxes :P [08:08]
teurastajayoure including an unwanted option which makes depends that arent needed and breaks it (probably)
pastebin
i know nothing of arpnetworks i thought id slip in to spy on the channel
next thing i know its freebsd talk
pastebin; i think i know the problem (if you dont need aic (confirm))
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wwdon't need aic... just moving the config around to where i can bin it [08:10]
teurastajadoes it fail on aicasm depends? [08:10]
wwsomething like that
http://pastebin.ca/1963999
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teurastajafirst time building a kernel? [08:13]
wwon this host, yes
but; using make buildkernel seems to wokr properly...
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teurastajainclude generic, comment out whats needed and negate unwanted options (style and ease style) [08:14]
ww>>> Kernel build for RIVER completed on Sat Oct 16 15:15:14 CEST 2010 [08:15]
teurastajaremoving reverse compat is not recommended
various parts still depend on old stuff
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wwI thought that was mostly for binary compatibility - surely the freebsd tree itself is up to date with its own abi? [08:17]
teurastajaaic shouldnt cause problems with this config file
not for some semaphores and fancy uncommon stuff thats well hidden and you never hear about
brb (10 minutes)
keep reverse compat (strong suggestion)
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wwok... [08:19]
teurastajaat least keep compat for 7
to avoid bad surprises
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wwwell it's not a particularly expensive thing to keep... in terms of kernel size or compile time
so may as well
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teurastajayou should also take the time to read /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES and /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/NOTES for some useful optimisations
im back
do you really need kbdmux?
is your mouse a ps.2 mouse?
*ps/2
how is kbd plugged?
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wwpsm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
not that i need support for a mouse at all
... just the minimal console in case of some sort of big problem... even then when they add my ssh key i'll make a serial console so could actually disable all of that scons stuff
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teurastajai disabled psm, atkbd, atkbdc and enabled ukbd
but i have usb mouse and kbd
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wwdo we have local ntp servers at arpnetworks? [09:28]
finkww: yes, i was wondering this [09:33]
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