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| *** | [FBI] starts logging #devious at Wed Jun 25 16:18:23 2014
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| brycec | >.>
<.< | [16:18] |
| kusuriya | the fbi would pin a medal on us | [16:23] |
| forgotten | haha | [16:33] |
| mianosm | at least the bot tells you it is logging and blogging everything? | [16:41] |
| kyl | [FBI]: MAX ON | [16:46] |
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| kyl | I love how the FBI is actually ICE and is using a commercial VPS likely running on a dead operating system | [16:55] |
| bcallah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGs2w5vbJHE | [17:00] |
| BryceBot | YouTube News: "19-Year-Old Accidental Politician Sworn In On Quran" by The Young Turks (2m 45s), 40,971 views, 1,362 likes and 42 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-25T03:30:00.000Z. | [17:00] |
| bcallah | this is the county I live in | [17:00] |
| kyl | bcallah: THE MUSLIMS ARE TAKIN OVER
sorry the islams | [17:07] |
| Lefty | 'slams | [17:08] |
| bcallah | lol
the funny part is he's literally the only one who voted so the idiot wrote himself in as a joke and now he technically is part of the steering committee for the republican party | [17:11] |
| Lefty | I was wondering how someone accidentally becomes a politician
"whoops, I tripped into this pile of dirty money" | [17:15] |
| bcallah | lol | [17:15] |
| kyl | whoops i accidentally ran for office | [17:16] |
| bcallah | and won | [17:16] |
| kyl | i thought it was all part of an MMORPG | [17:16] |
| bcallah | what do you mean I don't get any XP for this?!?!?! | [17:16] |
| kyl | slash ARG | [17:16] |
| bcallah | also, it's a republican phenomenon here
the democrats have way more seats filled at least in the county | [17:16] |
| trafficone | it's just a RG
an RG? ENERGYL bflah! this keyboard makes questions so difficults! ALL STATEMENTS ALL TNHE TIME | [17:25] |
| ampharos | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LP5WB6OXv1g wut | [17:29] |
| BryceBot | YouTube News: "Smutny Autobus" by Ministerstwo Spraw Wewnętrznych (2m 10s), 737,252 views, 2,738 likes and 10,185 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-23T06:24:20.000Z. | [17:29] |
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| BryceBot | New OpenBSD snapshots for amd64! (Wed Jun 25 2014 17:15:52 GMT-0700(PDT))
New OpenBSD snapshots for i386! (Wed Jun 25 2014 17:17:56 GMT-0700(PDT)) New OpenBSD snapshots for macppc! (Wed Jun 25 2014 17:19:18 GMT-0700(PDT)) | [19:14] |
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| CosmiCruz | where's everybody? :(
!tell qbit ohai sir | [19:54] |
| zdo | CosmiCruz: I'll tell qbit next time they speak. | [19:54] |
| blackjack | i just wonder. how does openbsd compares too freebsd in terms of being light weight OS? | [19:56] |
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| bcallah | blackjack: this question feels malformed, maybe you should figure out what you actually want | [20:22] |
| blackjack | i was just asking,.. given that both freebsd/netbsd/openbsd does perform almost the same thing. ANd quite the same characteristics, i just wonder which of them are more of a light weight OS | [20:24] |
| bcallah | the question makes no useful sense
what are you trying to *do* with the system? | [20:24] |
| blackjack | coz i just want a better platform where my resources are used efficiently
does i just wanted to know which. But i think all 3 are tied with that aspect i guess | [20:37] |
| kusuriya | yes but what are you trying to do with the platform each BSD does a different task a bit better | [20:37] |
| blackjack | like which would be a better webserver? | [20:38] |
| kusuriya | openBSD for example is super secure and makes for great secure systems and is used as a router and firewall in commercial producs
FreeBSD tends to make a great workstation | [20:39] |
| blackjack | ok kusuriya tell me what are each platforms good at?
ok | [20:39] |
| kusuriya | NetBSD runs on many platforms
thats pretty much the basic rundown | [20:39] |
| blackjack | ok
how about the commercial wifi routers are they also running with that sort of thing? "netbsd"? | [20:39] |
| kusuriya | commercial wifi routers at the consumer level run a linux usually
at the enterprise level its a mix of mostly linux with some Open and FreeBSD scattered in there since BSD's tend to have spartan wifi support compared to linux | [20:41] |
| kapu | NetBSD is still vulnerable to RSA timing attacks agains ssl i think | [20:43] |
| kusuriya | yeah im not sure if they fixed that | [20:43] |
| bcallah | 23:36 < blackjack> coz i just want a better platform where my resources are used efficiently | [20:49] |
| kusuriya | even in the far future that is scifi, villians seem to not understand just because you smash a control panel doesnt mean you disabled the thing you were trying to disable just means you made it impossible to tell if it was running | [20:49] |
| brycec | When it comes to vague, nebulous "which is the most lightweight" questions, I turn to the install ISO for an answer: (Base i386) OpenBSD 222MB, NetBSD 314MB, FreeBSD 564MB | [20:50] |
| bcallah | then you might as well know in advance exactly how many resources you need, and build something around that
because if you have, for example, 16GB of RAM, it's a waste you're machine isn't using all of it so your efficiency is crap | [20:50] |
| brycec | brycec has 16GB of RAM
*your machine | [20:50] |
| bcallah | lol yeah | [20:50] |
| kusuriya | 32gb of ram here | [20:50] |
| brycec | tl;dr OpenBSD is leanest of the major BSDs | [20:50] |
| kusuriya | im not worried about light :P | [20:50] |
| bcallah | kusuriya: o/ | [20:51] |
| kusuriya | o | [20:51] |
| bcallah | I have 8 here, and I really can't use it all
even with all the ports building I do | [20:51] |
| kusuriya | same here
the closest i got to putting a dent in it was compiling libreoffice | [20:51] |
| brycec | Chrome does its damnedest though :) | [20:51] |
| bcallah | lol
I don't have that issue with FF | [20:51] |
| kusuriya | before i realized OpenBSD's ports were quite up to date | [20:51] |
| brycec | (Though FireFox still leaks like a sieve for me and will consume waaaay more than Chrome ever has) | [20:51] |
| kusuriya | yeah Fx gets better each release | [20:52] |
| bcallah | I guess maybe too it's how you use it
for instance, I don't leave a browser running 24/7 | [20:52] |
| kusuriya | they have a large contenget of people comitted to plugging leaks | [20:52] |
| bcallah | I'll click a link, look at it, then close FF | [20:52] |
| brycec | I left FF running with 4 tabs over the weekend once (at work), came back and it was using 7.1GB and everything that could be swapped to disk had been.
^^ out of 8GB on that machine | [20:52] |
| bcallah | so I never have a browser open for more than 30 minutes
and 30 minutes is super long it's usually more like 5 | [20:52] |
| brycec | heh | [20:53] |
| kusuriya | Fx fails mostly between suspends
for me | [20:53] |
| bcallah | perhaps this is why I'm constantly confused when people complain about browsers | [20:53] |
| kusuriya | it will sleep at 500mb | [20:53] |
| lteo | TIL bcallah only watches 5 min videos | [20:53] |
| brycec | Basically bcallah uses his browser like he would a car, and doesn't leave it idling 24/7
Good Guy bcallah | [20:54] |
| kusuriya | and wake at 1.5gb
and be slow as hell Even if you give Fx unlimited memory at some point it just slows down I use mine to mind map some times fx doesnt like having 75 tabs open for 12 or 13 hours :P | [20:54] |
| brycec | FF doesn't like having tabs open at all :P
but it puts up with it for a bit | [20:55] |
| kusuriya | some where around 1.1gb you will start noticing a slow down
around 1.5gb its unbareable for me and stuff starts crashing and thats mostly because its starting to hit the top end of the memory limit of a 32bit thread I assume because 64bit Firefox doesnt have the same issue of stability until you start swapping | [20:56] |
| bcallah | lteo: I do mostly streaming via livestreamer
no FF at all! :D for instance | [20:58] |
| kusuriya | yeah I abuse the living fuck out of firefox | [20:58] |
| bcallah | $ livestreamer -p "vlc --file-caching 2000" twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda best & | [20:59] |
| lteo | lteo calls the firefox abuse hotline | [20:59] |
| bcallah | will get you watching summer games done quick | [20:59] |
| mcchunkie | PHRASING, BOOM! | [20:59] |
| kusuriya | id abuse chrome but me and chrome have had faar too many arguments over HTML5 | [20:59] |
| bcallah | which is what I've been doing since it started
already halfway over :/ | [20:59] |
| kusuriya | :(
man spamassassin is all screwed up for me all the scores are faaar off | [20:59] |
| bcallah | preempting BryceBot with an lteo o/
lteo: o/ | [21:06] |
| lteo | bcallah: o | [21:06] |
| BryceBot | lteo posted to source-changes@cvs.openbsd.org! "CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src" (Wed Jun 25 21:03:33 GMT-07:00 2014): "Convert several calloc calls to reallocarray. These calloc calls were originally malloc(n * m) calls (without memset/bzero) in the past. ok deraadt@ tedu@" [lib/libpcap : optimize.c pcap.c] | [21:07] |
| Guest81348 | http://youtu.be/e-DXJT8VnAA | [21:15] |
| BryceBot | YouTube Comedy: "Scala Movie 2.11 Official Trailer" by Jon Pretty (1m 38s), 5,174 views, 123 likes and 4 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-19T14:18:44.000Z. | [21:15] |
| Guest81348 | "and in the process, piss off industry AND academia."
roflll | [21:15] |
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| BryceBot | New OpenBSD snapshots for hppa! (Wed Jun 25 2014 21:45:34 GMT-0700(PDT))
New OpenBSD snapshots for sparc64! (Wed Jun 25 2014 21:48:06 GMT-0700(PDT)) | [22:45] |
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| law | sigh
so ninjapants is pressuring me to sell my Kawasaki Vulcan, take the proceeds, and buy a Triumph Bonneville then she wants me to paint it green matte (army-style) just so we can call it the "Steve McGreen" >_< | [23:13] |
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| brycec | Your wife is a brilliant, bad influence. | [23:41] |
| law | my wife? gosh, I hope my girlfriend doesn't find out
the real piss of it is, the local Triumph dealer has a 2013 B'ville in Barney Purple that *no one* has touched | [23:42] |
| brycec | I thought you were married... My bad. | [23:43] |
| law | a paint job is about $800, and the guy has offered it to me for dealer invoice + title + 'doc fee'
if I can get him to knock off the title and doc fees... I just might do it $6799 for the bike - a 2014 B'ville is like $7900 | [23:43] |
| BryceBot | New OpenBSD packages for alpha! (Wed Jun 25 2014 04:57:11 GMT-0700(PDT)) | [23:45] |
| brycec | Not so sure they can knock off the title fee, since that's WA's and not theirs
Either way, good luck :) | [23:50] |
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