#devious 2012-12-04,Tue

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dxtr	ohai guys	[03:43]
zod000	hai dxtr	[03:44]
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zod000	sorry, going through nagios logs not sure why i didnt see these in the middle of the night	[04:12]
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mcchunkie	New packages for i386!	[04:33]
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dxtr	Hmm So.. I'm trying tinc And it's friggin awesome	[04:53]
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benDos	ai Hai*	[05:03]
dxtr	Fuck yea I can access my work computer from home seamlessly. And the opposite	[05:15]
benDos	ssh?	[05:15]
kusuriya	woo	[05:16]
dxtr	benDos: tinc I said seamlessly. Like I can ping it from my computers at home without having to worry about sshing, opening openvpn or anything	[05:16]
benDos	Neat :)	[05:17]
dxtr	tinc was easy as fuck to set up	[05:18]
kusuriya	looks interesting too bad i have to use windows at work	[05:20]
dxtr	Haha	[05:21]
kusuriya	:(	[05:21]
dxtr	At my job the boss was like "Do you HAVE to use Windows!?" and I was like "I never said I wanted to use Windows in the first place" "Awesome! Then we won't have to buy that for you"	[05:21]
kusuriya	instead they overspent on a mac :P	[05:22]
dxtr	Nah There were like "Go buy a computer!" So I picked up some stuff and built it And I'm running Linux	[05:23]
benDos	did you buy yourself a cray?	[05:24]
kusuriya	lenovo needs a 14" notebook with a quad core processor :(	[05:25]
dxtr	benDos: Cray?	[05:25]
kusuriya	dxtr: the origonal multi core processor super computer	[05:25]
benDos	cray.com	[05:25]
kusuriya	@wiki cray computer	[05:25]
BryceBot	Cray :: Cray Inc. is an American supercomputer manufacturer based in Seattle, Washington. The company's predecessor, Cray Research, Inc. (CRI), was founded in 1972 by computer designer Seymour Cray. Seymour Cray went on to form the spin-off Cray Computer Corporation (CCC), in 1989, which went bankrupt in 1995, while Cray Research was bought by SGI the next year. Cray Inc. was formed in... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray	[05:25]
dxtr	Oh, right	[05:25]
benDos	They're based in Seattle! They should hire me.	[05:25]
kusuriya	benDos: i know id love to work at cray Or EMC but EMC Consulting keeps jerking me around	[05:26]
dxtr	fap fap	[05:26]
kusuriya	not the good kind of jerk	[05:26]
benDos	kusuriya, Cray has an IT anaylist pos open in seattle	[05:27]
kusuriya	benDos: hmm i try to avoid anaylist positions though that usually means helpdesk	[05:27]
benDos	It is helpdesk only pos on their site in seattle	[05:27]
kusuriya	yeah its help desk im cool :) HellDesk usually sucks and doesnt pay well	[05:28]
benDos	Hah yeeeaaahh But maybe you'd be working closer to me And we can become dim sum buddies.	[05:30]
kusuriya	meh im sure i could find better opprotunities downtown :) what i need to do is put my personal company down on my resume and cram all my linux stuff in there so I have linux admin experience and can go to admin linux systems	[05:31]
benDos	Sounds good	[05:33]
kusuriya	but i always get warey of doing that because then they are like "orly you did all this yourself"	[05:33]
mcchunkie	New packages for macppc!	[05:33]
benDos	kusuriya, i try to encourage them to ask me about stuff	[05:34]
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benDos	in interviews i do best when they are just asking me about problems or things i've done	[05:34]
dxtr	I just masturbate	[05:35]
kusuriya	I try not to honestly because I am a very poor interview i cant really explain my self well	[05:35]
benDos	Awe :/	[05:36]
kusuriya	yeah I just need more prof experience honestly with linux	[05:37]
benDos	Well dovecot is super sexy I'd be ok admining dovecot more	[05:40]
kusuriya	yeah i just cant find any dovecot admin positions :P	[05:41]
benDos	Hehe yeeeah postfix evim sendmail? exim*	[05:41]
kusuriya	id be willing to write sendmail.CFs all day long to do linux mail admining honestly	[05:41]
benDos	Heh :) I'm not too familiar with sendmail, just postfix really <3 postdix s/d/f/	[05:41]
lazylopez_	<3 postfix	[05:42]
kusuriya	i know enough about sendmail.cf to know it sucks ass but id be willing to deal with it	[05:42]
benDos	I don't know remember what that is main sendmial config right ?	[05:43]
kusuriya	yep its very nasty and picky too	[05:43]
benDos	Noooo I finish my coffee, and don't have cash to get more Now i need to wait till i get to work for free coffee :<	[05:44]
dxtr	What's the opposite of "-eq" in shell scripting ?	[05:46]
benDos	-neq? http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html -ne	[05:46]
dxtr	oh right	[05:47]
kusuriya	thats what i think ill do after i rebuild my savings here in january ill go get my RHCE	[05:47]
benDos	Is a RHCE really worth the grand+ for all the certs?	[05:48]
kusuriya	as an admin it is redhat/centOS is really heavily used	[05:48]
benDos	I've done a bunch of the pretests they were super easy mode but sometimes you want you to X, which has multiple ways to do it	[05:49]
kusuriya	i also have been meaning to get my LPI certs	[05:49]
benDos	and they only ask for one, if you know others 0 points	[05:49]
kusuriya	meh	[05:49]
benDos	So like "make sure no one can write to a file"" At least 3 ways to do it	[05:49]
kusuriya	why not beable to say im a RHCE :)	[05:49]
benDos	They only accept one	[05:49]
kusuriya	yeah its not an awesome test by any strech of the imagination but the beancounters eat it up	[05:49]
benDos	Hmm	[05:50]
kusuriya	yeah if youre going to cross over certs go a long way like i would have got the 75k i was asking for if i had one of my exchange certs would have got 80k if i had both	[05:50]
benDos	I have pretty low interest in moving to sysadmin'ing tbh Geez	[05:51]
dbtid	jrick: did you figure it out?	[05:51]
kusuriya	if i had both and my Microsoft Certified Expert id be in the low 200k's	[05:52]
benDos	that'd be baller	[05:52]
kusuriya	but the MCE is really hard to get	[05:52]
benDos	It really seems like i ought to be making more than i'll be making after a year or two for seattle anyway	[05:52]
kusuriya	you have to get your lower certs (there are 4 of them) then have 6 years int he industry	[05:53]
benDos	jebus	[05:53]
kusuriya	and have written 3 case studies	[05:53]
benDos	hah oh microsoft	[05:53]
kusuriya	and then you must submit a case study for review by the exchange team	[05:53]
benDos	why would anyone do an IT undergrad instead of some cert like that	[05:53]
kusuriya	and you wait to be invited to the test MCE is invite only at the very end	[05:53]
benDos	Mooooaaarrrr coffffeeee </zombievoice>	[05:54]
kusuriya	benDos: its kidna like getting your PHD you have to do a lot of work for it	[05:54]
qbit	halla	[06:07]
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qbit	yay coffee! qbit makes some	[06:07]
benDos	Hay Yeah i'm about to go grab some from work then go to the library to do some math hw!	[06:07]
dbtid	hi qbit	[06:07]
benDos	awwee yeeaah	[06:07]
qbit	sup dbtid o/	[06:08]
benDos	dbtid, i wonder if jrick divided by zero...	[06:08]
qbit	ha	[06:08]
dbtid	not much you?	[06:10]
qbit	coffeemakin	[06:10]
benDos	qbit, you roasting some beats now? cast iron pan on an open fire? beans... Drop beats sip'n beans yo.	[06:11]
dbtid	me too shortly	[06:12]
qbit	benDos: haven't tried again yet need to get a popcorn roaster	[06:12]
benDos	Heh :p	[06:12]
qbit	er popper	[06:12]
benDos	Whatever i know what you meant	[06:12]
jrick	yeah that problem is still unsolved	[06:12]
benDos	wut. My suggestion didn't work?	[06:12]
jrick	couldn't get it me and my whole team (5 people total) spent forever working on it	[06:14]
benDos	Oohkay :/ I'll play around with it again when i get to work in a few hours I really thought that was how you did it.. benDos is pretty shit at math though oh done with this class bbiab	[06:14]
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qbit	jrick: have you looked into cases for the n4 yet ? s/ yet //	[06:18]
lazylopez_	jrick: have you looked into cases for the n4?	[06:18]
jrick	nope don't need one	[06:18]
qbit	kew i noticed a micro scratch on the screen.. totally paranoid now	[06:18]
jrick	front? that sucks	[06:21]
qbit	heh.. i cna't find it now so meh	[06:21]
kusuriya	score got webshell running	[06:27]
qbit	23ll er well ^ should be its name :D	[06:31]
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benDos	backish	[06:45]
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benDos	jrick, I ran it by one of my more mathematically inclined friends	[06:45]
jrick	"abandon all hope, ye who enter here"?	[06:46]
benDos	The method i suggested works on a plane but with the actual positions of R, A, and C unknown off the top of their head they didn't know if it still worked wb benDossBot	[06:46]
benDossBot	Thanks benDos	[06:46]
jrick	we know the positions of A B and C and the distance between them	[06:46]
benDos	You told me you knew A B and C were on a line and AB and BC were both distance D	[06:47]
jrick	so those are our beacons and our robot is somewhere one one side of that line, and we need to know where the robot is with respect to those beacons	[06:47]
benDos	Right ok	[06:47]
jrick	and we determine where to put the beacons	[06:47]
benDos	The beacons need to be on a line, and not surrounding R?	[06:48]
jrick	hm you said drawing a straight line down from R to line AB or BC (whichever) and making a right triangle?	[06:48]
benDos	Yup	[06:48]
jrick	they don't need to be on a line but that's what we thought would be the easiest to solve the problem we can put those literally anywhere	[06:49]
benDos	Oh.. I then believe putting them 120 degrees apart around the area would be easier	[06:49]
jrick	let me sketch that out	[06:49]
benDos	Way way easier imo equilateral triangle ABC, within ABC in the point R You have the angle ARB, BRC, AND CRA	[06:50]
lteo	i want to equilateralize your triangle at an angle in the point R, if you know what i mean	[06:51]
jrick	ok I see, now to try the math	[06:51]
benDos	lteo, you have a phd you should up in here solving jrick's problems not mocking them	[06:52]
qbit	nono.. stick with mocking	[06:52]
benDos	s/k/ky	[06:52]
lazylopez_	nono.. sticky with mockying	[06:52]
qbit	you have a phd.. time for others to suffer to get what you have	[06:52]
benDos	:p	[06:52]
jrick	a phd is a license to say silly stuff	[06:53]
lteo	^ lteo say, "silly stuff" benDos: a phd means i'm damaged beyond repair, so i'm useless now	[06:53]
benDos	Your adviser drained you of all intellectual capitol? "I'll be needing you to put in at least like 75 hours this week, it's really important you finish my paper for me by like next thursday" - Every PhD Adviser Ever	[06:54]
lteo	pretty much yeah. you do all the hard work, they add their name at the end also there's so much bullcrap being published that have no practical value	[06:55]
benDos	If you're lucky, they get bored of you and want a newer bigger titted candidate within 5 years so they give you the phd and kick your ass out	[06:55]
lteo	as long as they give you your phd before kicking your ass out, you're fine	[06:56]
benDos	I feel so bad for my friend getting his phd in germany	[06:57]
mcchunkie	that's what she said!	[06:57]
benDos	mcchunkie: no	[06:57]
mcchunkie	Sorry: "I feel so bad for my friend getting his phd in germany"	[06:57]
benDos	I mean i get that they pay him But not like a real salary	[06:57]
lteo	oh dude yes that's the other thing	[06:57]
benDos	You are still treated like a student,except you teach classes ghostwrite papers and books for your advisor, for like over a decade	[06:57]
lteo	for years my income was barely above federal poverty line	[06:58]
benDos	lteo, but you totally get tax breaks for being a full time student so after tax sometimes you're ever above the poverty line even*	[06:58]
lteo	i dunno about that brah. anyway meeting	[07:00]
benDos	So it's like 60F today And i want to bbq something fierce jrick, what's the word?	[07:04]
jrick	sorry I've been discussing some xombrero stuff with conformal peeps but I don't know how arranging them this way help s hm	[07:08]
benDos	jrick, you have an angle from each A B and C to your R inside of triangle ABC	[07:09]
jrick	yes	[07:10]
benDos	You take lines from A B and C at the angle you get into the tringle	[07:10]
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benDos	where they intersect is where your R is	[07:10]
piroko	We are still talking about this. lol	[07:13]
benDos	Math is hard bro	[07:13]
mcchunkie	aw, where's the pun in that?	[07:13]
benDos	mcchunkie: no	[07:13]
mcchunkie	Sorry: "Math is hard bro"	[07:13]
piroko	HEY GUYS	[07:16]
benDos	Hai?	[07:16]
piroko	Ke$ha's warrior album is up on spotify now. http://open.spotify.com/album/0gT5HL6RnvHBxJ2gY7lidR You're welcome	[07:16]
qbit	ha	[07:17]
benDos	benDos is listening to La Coka Nostra	[07:18]
piroko	You think I'm kidding, yet I'm rocking out to it for the 8th time this week right now	[07:18]
qbit	oh no - i belive you :P	[07:19]
piroko	haha good	[07:19]
benDos	Whatever this is some hardcore metal and hip hop. And free coffee from work good shit	[07:19]
qbit	qbit has never had good free coffee	[07:19]
piroko	^^	[07:19]
benDos	Fucking snobs It's free Know what though I am still in college	[07:19]
qbit	but i am a coffeeist	[07:19]
benDos	Maybe my taste buds for free things will mature after i graduate in a few months	[07:19]
qbit	ya.. being a coffeeist in college makes you a hipster	[07:19]
benDos	This is no idea what type of coffee with no name brand creamer but the price is right and it's hot and has caffeine qbit, do you also <3 Ill Bill (rapper)?	[07:21]
piroko	deliciousness of food = quality of food / cost of food	[07:27]
benDos	s/d/d+0.00000000000000000001	[07:27]
lazylopez_	d+0.00000000000000000001eliciousness of food+0.00000000000000000001 = quality of food+0.00000000000000000001 / cost of food+0.00000000000000000001	[07:27]
benDos	Oh. I wanted d$ Aaanyway Ohh kusuriya orca card works on sound transit!!! =D	[07:27]
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benDos	qbit, http://youtu.be/Dicn1qsVKwU	[07:32]
BryceBot	YouTube Music: "La Coka Nostra - Cousin of Death [Director's Cut]" by LaCokaNostra (4m 51s), 550,616 views, 2,854 likes and 34 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-01T20:42:04.000Z.	[07:32]
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benDos	though some random actor in the video none of the dudes from LCN	[07:32]
tydeas	.quit	[07:35]
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benDos	Man i should bring my studio headphones to work These dinky little ear buds have a cruddy woofer	[07:36]
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benDos	Holy shit guys, wolfram alpha does geometry too!	[07:38]
snk	nice snk gets out his sysadmin shotgub s/gub/gun	[07:42]
lazylopez_	lazylopez_ gets out his sysadmin shotgun	[07:42]
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snk	somone is trying to setup a hadoop cluster using our network storage as a backend now I have to read enough about hadoop to tell them that it's a terrible idea	[07:43]
benDos	That doesn't sound totally insane?	[07:45]
AmberJ_	Damn, Amazon Prime Student works only for students of USA universities :(	[07:49]
snk	benDos: well, they want to put it on our AFS storage which, is terribly slow for computational tasks and has tons of ACLs that will most certainly not be happy with a hadoop master node trying to all the reads and writes	[07:50]
piroko	wew http://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/ That top post is my wife	[07:50]
snk	lol	[07:51]
piroko	She didn't say it It was just on her feed	[07:52]
benDos	snk, doesn't afs do lots of local caching?	[07:53]
sharvey	jesus my university built a brain and I mostly had no idea	[07:56]
benDos	sharvey, that IBM cat brain?	[07:56]
sharvey	then they did an ama, which I also was not aware of benDos: no, spaun	[07:56]
qbit	:D even i knew about that!	[07:56]
benDos	Did not. That was a /me *	[07:56]
sharvey	benDos: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/147gqm/we_are_the_computational_neuroscientists_behind/ I know two people on that team two	[07:57]
qbit	lol	[07:57]
sharvey	jesus christ I've been living under a rock	[07:57]
benDos	Heh sweet neural nets are fun :)	[07:57]
dxtr	svn <73	[07:58]
snk	benDos: "lots" of local caching is whatever the size of the local machine's /var/cache/openafs partition is	[07:58]
dxtr	</3	[07:58]
snk	usually about 3GBs in our environment the default afs config sets a 512MB cache in any case ours is designed for document/code storage not storage for scalable computation	[07:58]
benDos	Heh benDos is overly cynical about anything hadoop related	[07:59]
brycec	fuckyeah AFS LMAO 08:43:14 <+snk> somone is trying to setup a hadoop cluster using our network storage as a backend snk: fwiw every Hadoop setup I've seen has used directly-attached storage, sometimes even RAID10. Keeps it fast, doesn't use network resources (which are already busy transporting the workload around), and did I mention it's fast? Those are the bullet points you could pass along. "I don't know much about Hadoop, but..."	[08:00]
benDos	I AM NOT looking forward to having to use hadoop for work next year :/	[08:03]
brycec	My favourite part is to say the name. hadOOP	[08:04]
benDos	IT's just so fucking java-y in the setup	[08:04]
brycec	but benDos <3 Java...	[08:05]
benDos	As a runtime sure People shipping java code seem to distribute their project in the worst ways imaginable	[08:05]
brycec	Scumbag Waterloo... I blame sharvey for this. three names, FOUR PEOPLE http://imgur.com/TUo0x unless "Terry Xuan" is actually "Terry" and "Xuan"...	[08:06]
snk	brycec: so, is the locally attached storage local storage on ALL the nodes?	[08:07]
sharvey	benDos: there's 4 names	[08:07]
brycec	that could be	[08:07]
sharvey	terry and xuan I know xuan and trevor	[08:07]
snk	or is it only on the master node, and shared to the slave nodes?	[08:07]
brycec	snk: yes, every node gets a $cheapdrive or two	[08:07]
snk	gotcha i _though_ that was the point of hadoop *thought	[08:07]
qbit	na	[08:07]
brycec	each node's workload gets pulled locally, molested, and given back to the master.	[08:07]
qbit	it's point is to make benDos rage	[08:07]
snk	was 32345 cheap servers with cheap disks == hadoop cluster	[08:08]
kyl	moin	[08:08]
qbit	hai kyl	[08:08]
brycec	so that workload sits locally and the fast storage means it can store/fetch pieces of it quickly. Just imagine the congestion if all the nodes were slamming a SAN lol sharvey	[08:08]
dbtid	hello kyl	[08:09]
brycec	well this pic made it look like they were being held hostage :P http://imgur.com/mEMue (for ransom)	[08:09]
sharvey	hahahahaha I'll forward that to them I see trevor on thursday, due to unrelated meeting	[08:09]
brycec	ha	[08:10]
AmberJ_	Cool, I can try free 1 month trial of Amazon Prime!	[08:10]
brycec	now then, to start my heavy metal band... SLAM THE SAN	[08:10]
sharvey	hahahaha	[08:10]
AmberJ_	+for free	[08:10]
sharvey	brycec: is it made of heavy metals?	[08:10]
AmberJ_	AmberJ_ is purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1	[08:11]
brycec	sharvey: heavy metals are an integral component, yes	[08:11]
dxtr	Man.. Since June I've transferred 2TB of data :/	[08:11]
brycec	damn dxtr you be slackin'	[08:11]
dxtr	Oh yeah But I've also received around 2TB	[08:11]
brycec	I've downloaded 562,271MB of data since Dec 1.	[08:12]
benDos	Jebus.	[08:13]
brycec	Though to be fair, I'm not sure how... I'm just going by what pfSense tells me	[08:13]
benDos	I'm at like 10's of gigs / month :x Ohhh	[08:13]
brycec	But seriously, I do pull hundreds of GB/mo	[08:13]
qbit	^	[08:13]
kyl	goddamn pirate s	[08:13]
brycec	Yarrrr	[08:13]
qbit	qbit checks hsi arp cactus yearly 1 day average is 1.46 tb	[08:15]
AmberJ_	Does anyone owns a Galaxy Note 10.1 here?	[08:16]
benDos	So seriously, at what point does someone who has never been academically dishonest just pay someone to take a class for them Cause if I fail calculus again I do not foresee having the patience to fail it again	[08:16]
brycec	aww I have some catching up to do, I'm only at 17.81GB for the year with ARP (then again, I've only had an ARP since October)	[08:16]
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dxtr	brycec: Don't you guys have bandwidth caps over there? :P	[08:19]
brycec	dxtr: many residential ISP's do nowadays Does Bryce? NOPE! :P	[08:19]
benDos	I keep reading that time warner has caps but whenever i call them or sign in, i can't find anything like that for m for me*	[08:20]
dxtr	brycec: And it costs you a small fortune? :P	[08:21]
brycec	Sweet - in the last 4 weeks, I've downloaded ~490GB (more accurately counted) dxtr: $100/mo on my res connection. My business connection... well business connections just have no caps	[08:22]
dxtr	lawl, $100 :/	[08:23]
brycec	($95 if you want to be more accurate)	[08:23]
dxtr	Add 10-20% and you'd get gigabit	[08:23]
brycec	I assure you, if I could add anything and get GbE, I would seriously consider it.	[08:23]
qbit	guys haiku is hte best os ever	[08:24]
kyl	qbit: bro false	[08:24]
brycec	brycec waits for kyl to chime in	[08:24]
kyl	it is a good OS but it is not the best	[08:24]
brycec	oh damn beat me	[08:24]
kyl	and trust me	[08:24]
qbit	:D	[08:24]
kyl	I <3 haiku more than you	[08:24]
qbit	i don't thank so bro	[08:24]
kyl	i do do you have all the BeOS dev books?	[08:24]
brycec	he also <3'd haike before you	[08:24]
qbit	how many compieputers do you have it on right now?	[08:24]
kyl	'cuz I do	[08:24]
qbit	kyl: indeed i do :O	[08:24]
kyl	i have it on two VMs	[08:24]
qbit	beos was the first os i ever purchased !	[08:25]
kyl	o/	[08:25]
qbit	o	[08:25]
kyl	i still have the R3, R4, and R5	[08:25]
qbit	qbit only has r5	[08:25]
kyl	if i ever find a bebox i will buy it, no question asked	[08:26]
brycec	For those wondering whether DOCSIS 3 is worth it, I present my latency and packet loss between my router and my ISP's first-hop/router. The upgrade should be apparent. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-04_09-25-48.png	[08:27]
benDos	brycec, i'm on docsis 3	[08:27]
qbit	what is awesome about pueblo .. it has docsis 3 .. but springs doesn't gofrigguure	[08:28]
brycec	lawl qbit	[08:28]
lteo	lteo is frigguuring it out	[08:28]
brycec	brycec will make a better graph... better graph https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-04_09-29-58.png	[08:28]
qbit	http://open.spotify.com/album/3iAhgPaqgnKT1Zw9Nueriz <---- naked lady album!!!! snk!!	[08:30]
brycec	(link IS nsfw)	[08:31]
AmberJ_	AmberJ_ clicks qbit's link desperately :P .troll	[08:31]
lazylopez_	is OpenBSD open source?	[08:31]
qbit	haha	[08:31]
AmberJ_	benDos, there's an amazing online course starting on Coursera in January! at least the promo looks very interesting s/promo/promo video for class	[08:33]
lazylopez_	at least the promo video for class looks very interesting	[08:33]
benDos	AmberJ_, what class?	[08:33]
lwhalen	oh jesus H Christ ninjapants: I want this for christmas - http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=303678&d=1354636382	[08:34]
benDos	That's purdy.	[08:35]
AmberJ_	benDos, https://www.coursera.org/course/calcsing	[08:35]
benDos	AmberJ_, that won't help I need calc 2 that my college with accept They do not accept credits from coursera :p	[08:35]
AmberJ_	benDos, the instructor for this course the craziest book I had ever seen: http://www.math.upenn.edu/~ghrist/FLCT/ heh	[08:35]
kyl	benDos: some advice	[08:36]
snk	qbit: share it to me on spotify brah	[08:36]
kyl	don't fail calc2	[08:36]
snk	so that I don't have to click	[08:36]
benDos	kyl, dude I try every time They teach methods of integration by hand, and THAT is what is on the final	[08:36]
qbit	sent	[08:37]
benDos	I've done 30+ hours per week on calclus and my brain just does not remember how to do shit by hand in math that complicated	[08:37]
snk	mmm, nekkid ladies in my inbox	[08:37]
kyl	so learn those methods of integration and bpt do them by hand	[08:37]
AmberJ_	benDos, Ok, they don't accept credits from coursera but you can watch online courses to understand the concepts and then pass your exams. what kyl said^	[08:37]
benDos	bpt?	[08:38]
brycec	British Petroleum Tycoon, duh	[08:38]
benDos	I do learn them, every time i take the course But since I already know how to do it faster and more accurately online or by looking up formulas My brain is all :"fuck you ben, i won't remember this method by hand even if you spend 50 hours doing problems for just that method of integration"	[08:38]
kyl	be parepared to well then, your brain is holding you back	[08:39]
qbit	haha	[08:40]
benDos	That's what i'm say'n.	[08:40]
kyl	i suggest punishing it through the use of ethanol heavy use thereof	[08:40]
benDos	That at this point, if i won't get the degree without that class	[08:40]
lteo	benDos: is there any crazy mnemonic thingy that you can memorize, that when you go into the exam, the first thing you do is do a brain dump of that mnemonic thing by writing it on the exam paper so you remember?	[08:40]
benDos	It probably makes sense to pay someone to take it for me lteo, na the class covers too much tbh Idk :/	[08:40]
AmberJ_	+1 lteo :D I do this all the time	[08:41]
kyl	maybe bendos just wasn't mean to get his degree	[08:41]
benDos	kyl, certainly seems that way	[08:41]
kyl	he shall forever be doomed to join our ranks	[08:41]
benDos	No no I'll just shift my efforts from actually learning calculus to cheating like a fucking boss Cause i really want that mother fucking degree already.	[08:42]
kyl	i'll write a letter to the dean alleging academic impropriety	[08:43]
AmberJ_	that's the spirit benDos	[08:43]
benDos	I've met several professors i'm more versed in comp sci than AmberJ_, this book is kind of hard to read :/ the font	[08:43]
lteo	bro, i met a professor who has a phd from uc berkeley and whose area is spam research. and he doesn't know how spam RBLs worked i described it to him, and he was like, "oooohhh so that's how it works"	[08:44]
benDos	:< Point being if i don't get catch no one will ever give a shit caught*	[08:44]
kyl	benDos: math is hard, you should go shopping	[08:44]
mcchunkie	twss!	[08:44]
benDos	kyl, i'm actually better at math than most of my friends	[08:45]
AmberJ_	s/shopp/facebook	[08:45]
benDos	just not with pen and paper	[08:45]
lazylopez_	kyl, i'm actually better at math than most of my friends	[08:45]
benDos	benDos is a graph theory pro	[08:45]
kyl	well if you can't do it by hand, you're clearly not good at math you're good at telling the computer how to math	[08:49]
benDos	That must be it..	[08:50]
lteo	maybe get some tips from people who have passed the class?	[08:52]
dbtid	i didn't think calc 2 was "hard" -- just a whole lot of WORK. the people who did the homework did well. but perhaps calc 2 has changed knowing all the major trig identities made a big difference	[08:53]
benDos	lteo, the people i know who passed it barely passed and also took calc in hs Man idk i'm doing all the homeworks, really it's just not something my brain remembers	[08:56]
	AmberJ_, this textbook is rough	[09:02]
brycec	s/this/yourmom/	[09:04]
lazylopez_	AmberJ_, yourmom textbook is rough	[09:04]
benDos	Heh <3 dovecot just got a log msg: Dec 04 12:03:04 imap: Error: Time just moved backwards by 1 seconds. I'll sleep now until we're back in present. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards	[09:04]
dxtr	Fuck me for picking eco friendly computer computers*	[09:06]
benDos	What does that even mean?	[09:06]
dxtr	I want my living room to get warm, but they still send off a cool breeze when they're under heavy load	[09:06]
benDos	Isn't it still made of mega toxic plastics and heavy metals? Oh :p	[09:06]
brycec	lol dxtr	[09:07]
benDos	I can trade you my old desktop if you want, i never once turned the heat in my office at home last winter	[09:07]
brycec	I've got a nice warm server closet	[09:07]
kusuriya	dxtr: you need to get closer to the metal to generate heat	[09:07]
brycec	It's literally 15F warmer than my office	[09:07]
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zod000	brycec: that's nuts	[09:08]
dxtr	kusuriya: Like licking the disks in the disks?	[09:08]
zod000	15F warmer and I'd be rediculously unformatable	[09:08]
brycec	zod000: it's awesome. Before, all that stuff was in my office	[09:08]
zod000	err uncomfortable	[09:08]
brycec	zod000: but now it's closed away in the closet	[09:08]
benDos	zod000, you were right the first time	[09:08]
kusuriya	dxtr: like node.js	[09:08]
BryceBot	BAREMETAL!!!	[09:08]
dxtr	oh right kusuriya: IT'S SO COLD OUTSIDE -7C :(	[09:09]
kusuriya	dxtr: you need more coffee	[09:10]
benDos	Pussy. .wa -7c to f	[09:10]
brycec	benDos: skunkbot is awol .wa is skunkbot	[09:10]
benDos	Oh It's 20F	[09:10]
zod000	it is a pleasant 22C here	[09:10]
dxtr	kusuriya: I have no coffee :(	[09:10]
benDos	That's fucking bbq weather dxtr step your shit up	[09:10]
dxtr	benDos: Well, it's a fucking blizzard outside and I wanna go buy pizza	[09:10]
mcchunkie	TWSS!	[09:10]
kusuriya	dxtr: get a coat and go do it	[09:11]
dxtr	It's gonna be -14 on Thursday :(	[09:11]
kusuriya	DO IT NAO!	[09:11]
benDos	dxtr, do socialists not deliver pizza?	[09:11]
dxtr	benDos: Does not seem like so, no	[09:11]
kusuriya	benDos: no because if you buy one pizza and have it delivered you have to buy everyone in the building pizza	[09:11]
benDos	kusuriya, makes a valid point	[09:11]
kusuriya	its the socalist way	[09:11]
dxtr	It's fucking expensive to get it delivered home :(	[09:12]
zod000	kusuriya: no, that is the communist way, the socialist way is that the government provides everyone with a pizza fund, but they can only buy it from SwedPizzaCo	[09:12]
benDos	That's cause socialists are always bitching and whining about a "living wage" fuck that We have capitolism bitches living wages are for pinko commies	[09:13]
dxtr	zod000: No, that's the 'merican socialism	[09:13]
kusuriya	we need to go back to employing children for 2.50 an hour	[09:13]
dxtr	Real socialism is "that the government provides everyone with a pizza fund" Period	[09:13]
benDos	kusuriya, yeah! that'll teach our high school grads what they have to look forward to get your hs diploma now walmart will hire you at a below the poverty line full time position hooray!	[09:14]
zod000	i had to work when i was a kid, but not for 2.5, i got 4.25!	[09:14]
benDos	jk not full time 28 hours so you don't get health care	[09:14]
kusuriya	benDos: nah we all help walmart pay their employees	[09:14]
dxtr	This pizza place has 'MURKAN PIZZAS	[09:14]
benDos	zod000, dollars or deblooms?	[09:14]
kusuriya	walmart is clearly a government institution	[09:14]
benDos	I'm not really sure how it's legal to even have full time positions that pay below the poverty line	[09:15]
zod000	benDos: doubloons of course	[09:15]
dxtr	zod000: I earned shitloads of money when I was a kid because the minimum wages are so high and I didn't have to pay tax :p	[09:15]
benDos	dxtr, and as a kid your expenses are pretty minimal	[09:15]
zod000	my parents made me get a job when i was 14, but they heavily restrict how many hours you can work then i think it was like 10 a week	[09:16]
dxtr	benDos: $16/hr	[09:16]
zod000	until 16	[09:16]
dxtr	And no tax	[09:16]
benDos	I was working off the books when i was that age zod000 :x so no restriction on my hours dxtr, lol No one is going to believe you that in soviet swedish there is no income tax	[09:16]
zod000	benDos: i worked off the books for my stepfather's business as well, that paid a lot more but was sporadic	[09:16]
dxtr	benDos: If I earn less than 30k SEK/per (plus some, I think) there's no tax!	[09:17]
benDos	dxtr, so why make more than that	[09:17]
kyl	per what?	[09:17]
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benDos	Obviously if the govt pays for things for you	[09:17]
dxtr	kyl: Per year :(	[09:17]
benDos	you have no reason tow ork	[09:17]
kyl	because if that's per year	[09:17]
benDos	</romnasty>	[09:17]
kyl	that sucks	[09:17]
jrick	so benDos I was playing with that suggestion for a little while in class and I don't think it gets us anywhere farther I could just be stupid though	[09:18]
dxtr	You are	[09:19]
jrick	ok	[09:19]
benDos	Hmm I'll sketch it out for a sec	[09:19]
dxtr	Don't worry about it, jrick, us smart people already solved it	[09:19]
jrick	dxtr: cool. can i haz the solution?	[09:19]
benDos	hah	[09:19]
dxtr	jrick: What for? Just go and touch yourself or whatever you do	[09:19]
kusuriya	kusuriya gets paid from sweden for playing with himself	[09:20]
jrick	sorry won't cut it	[09:20]
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dxtr	kusuriya: EVERYTHING IS WHITE OUTSIDE IT'S SNOWING HORIZONTALLY	[09:21]
kusuriya	sweet dxtr: ill be over in an hour to do snow angels	[09:21]
dxtr	Fuck yeah, it stopped snowing Now is my chance to get pizza	[09:22]
kusuriya	doooeet	[09:22]
AmberJ_	benDos, I didn't got time to read this book. But I'm yet to see a Calculus writeup as crazy as this one! :D	[09:22]
dxtr	It's now or never Wish me luck	[09:22]
lwhalen	oh god I worry about myself sometimes	[09:22]
kusuriya	kusuriya hands dxtr a pistol its dangerous to go alone	[09:22]
zod000	work just bought free pizza, must by dxtr's influence	[09:22]
kyl	lteo: did you see 40% off at nsp? brah	[09:22]
lwhalen	we are all familiar with Eazy E's "Boyz In Da Hood", right?	[09:22]
kusuriya	lwhalen: yep	[09:23]
kyl	...	[09:23]
lwhalen	"Cuz the stacks from Jay-Boss are always large, they come spittin' that trash and the readin' is hard"	[09:23]
kyl	kyl looks up on youtube	[09:23]
lwhalen	"wanting nothing in life but to read() init(), don't post that trash just paste-bin it" lwhalen crunks for the camera !seen ninjapants	[09:23]
BryceBot	lwhalen, I last saw ninjapants 4 days 23 hours 37 min 25 sec ago saying in a channel: ha - this one's good, too http://cheezburger.com/6813015808.	[09:23]
dxtr	zod000: Work gives me a free christmas dinner tomorrow :D With booze and shit	[09:23]
kusuriya	"I gotta get drunk before i start vim"	[09:23]
dxtr	Also, pizza on Friday	[09:23]
zod000	dxtr: christmas is 3 weeks away, they need to ge ta calendar	[09:24]
dxtr	Fuck that Who wants to meet up with job people during christmas!?	[09:24]
zod000	we have an open bar christmas party, but i am not going this year kids have made a babysitter too hard to get	[09:24]
kusuriya	dxtr: open bar?	[09:25]
dxtr	kusuriya: WITH LOADS OF GLÖGG	[09:25]
kusuriya	ill be there!	[09:25]
dxtr	Titties ! Don't ask me where we're crashing, though I live 160km from there	[09:25]
kyl	ewww glögg	[09:26]
zod000	ouch	[09:26]
kusuriya	lwhalen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeL9gagV_VA i perfer that version	[09:26]
BryceBot	YouTube Music: "Dynamite Hack-"Boyz In The Hood"_ SEMI-OFFICIAL VIDEO" by Robitussn (3m 15s), 444,503 views, 2,760 likes and 86 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-06-24T19:27:04.000Z.	[09:26]
zod000	dxtr: i have the same prob with our parties	[09:26]
dxtr	zod000: Really? Do you also live far away from work? :P	[09:26]
lwhalen	yup, seen it there's also a bluegrass cover of Gin and Juice out there	[09:27]
kusuriya	dxtr: can we just crash in your cubicle?	[09:27]
lwhalen	which is EQUALLY hysterical	[09:27]
zod000	dxtr: yeah, about 35 miles, takes about 45 min to drive it	[09:27]
dxtr	Boyz in the hood!? Moar like New wheels on the block! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0vULHixL0	[09:28]
BryceBot	YouTube Comedy: "Boys On Wheels - New Wheels on the Block" by AdLibsComedy (3m 59s), 78,223 views, 167 likes and 8 dislikes. Uploaded 2007-06-10T23:04:42.000Z.	[09:28]
kusuriya	dxtr: thats how we know sweden is different no newtwork here would have the balls to subtitle disabled people	[09:28]
dxtr	Haha	[09:29]
zod000	dxtr: we don't actually have the parties at work as they are too rowdy, we rent out a place	[09:29]
dxtr	zod000: that's what we do too But everyone lives in Stockholm I don't kusuriya: Look through the swedish song and watch the rest :P It's hilarious	[09:29]
kusuriya	dxtr: i am :D its great dxtr: http://youtu.be/1ivTKRSURsQ better	[09:30]
BryceBot	YouTube Comedy: "Punks On Wheels" by serrifax (2m 15s), 308,162 views, 815 likes and 38 dislikes. Uploaded 2007-11-09T16:49:54.000Z.	[09:32]
dxtr	kusuriya: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0hbg79ftU	[09:32]
kusuriya	pretty awesome im almost to the point i can understand it being spoken at pace :o sort of	[09:34]
dxtr	What? The way he's talking?	[09:34]
kusuriya	nah swedish in general	[09:35]
dxtr	Oh right Titties	[09:35]
kusuriya	damn youtube vids	[09:35]
dxtr	(Pro-tip: Those videos are norwegian)	[09:35]
kusuriya	damn me kusuriya commits suicide	[09:35]
dxtr	:D	[09:35]
trafficone	:>	[09:36]
mcchunkie	oh god.. why would you use that face!!!!!	[09:36]
dxtr	If you say "fra" in Norwegian you say "from", if you say "fra" in swedish you're talking about the national military surveillance thing	[09:36]
kyl	trafficone: :<	[09:36]
kusuriya	meh i should learn spanish also	[09:37]
dxtr	Oh god that's horrible	[09:37]
trafficone	por que?	[09:37]
kusuriya	que paso, work work	[09:37]
trafficone	Tienes que morir del mano de puta mexicana?	[09:37]
kusuriya	La migra, endale!	[09:38]
dxtr	PUTA MADRE	[09:38]
kusuriya	Tu mare?	[09:38]
dxtr	MIERDA!	[09:38]
trafficone	cierra la boca	[09:38]
dxtr	That's all I know Oh, I know hora!	[09:38]
trafficone	jaja	[09:38]
dxtr	I know because it means whore in swedish	[09:38]
trafficone	:-D	[09:39]
kusuriya	cuanto de su burro?	[09:39]
dxtr	burrito?	[09:39]
kusuriya	no burro dxtr: burro == �sna ish	[09:39]
dxtr	Aight "ish" Can it be more or less a donkey?	[09:41]
kusuriya	yeah im not sure if that would be totally the right word for donkey burrito literally translated means Little Donkey	[09:41]
trafficone	gordito literally translated means "fatty"	[09:42]
kusuriya	well a gordita as you would order it at taco bell means "Fat Girl"	[09:43]
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kusuriya	i know a couple hispanic freinds of mine that chuckle everytime some one orders a "Gordita extra cheese"	[09:43]
zod000	lol	[09:45]
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kusuriya	papi chulo was always one of thoose terms of endearment i couldt ever get though its like im sorry dont call me daddy in any form ever ... EVER	[09:46]
trafficone	wisdom	[09:48]
kusuriya	it just makes me feel weird when i meet girls with such a daddy complex they want to call me daddy jesus christ http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/15/10/enhanced-buzz-25476-1352993892-9.jpg	[09:52]
trafficone	more like Cheesus Christ amirite?	[09:57]
kyl	cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese	[09:57]
trafficone	TBH, that's how being on a keto diet feels esp. since I actually did that	[09:58]
kyl	i couldn't do a keto diet	[09:58]
qbit	whoa chrome has a windows 8 mode	[09:58]
trafficone	(not in public, mind) s/chrome/windows 8/	[09:58]
lazylopez_	(not in public, mind)	[09:58]
trafficone	wait, is that a dude or a chick?	[10:00]
kusuriya	keto diets are generally stupid honestly trafficone: i cant tell... i did a lot of research and everything about keytosis came back to one thing which was keytosis is the bodys emergency long running starvation state where your body will start canibalizing its self to keep you alive	[10:00]
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brycec	"These Cheezit Extremes are not cheesy enough..."	[10:03]
_kapu_	put cheese on them	[10:04]
brycec	_kapu_: it was in reference to 10:56:30 <+kusuriya> jesus christ http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/15/10/enhanced-buzz-25476-1352993892-9.jpg	[10:04]
kusuriya	THESE CHEESEIT EXTREMES ARE NOT CHEESY ENOUGH!	[10:04]
_kapu_	ahh	[10:05]
kusuriya	that is why america is fat	[10:05]
_kapu_	Its often the case that I am not in the loop. I should work on this. Or maybe not	[10:05]
kyl	that's not the only reason	[10:05]
brycec	I admit, I have gnawed upon a block of cheese... But never that big of a block, and I never ate the whole thing.	[10:05]
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kusuriya	yeah ive cut me a small block	[10:06]
_kapu_	I eat lots'o-cheese	[10:06]
kusuriya	maybe the size of 2 cheese sticks but eat straight off the damn block	[10:06]
_kapu_	Any of you good people vim golfers? I just found out about it and am having some fun with this game its pretty cool	[10:06]
brycec	woooo zpool scrub on just 2TB of data has taken 12 hours	[10:07]
kusuriya	o/	[10:08]
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_kapu_	I thought I was good until I did vimgolf. A humbling experience.	[10:09]
brycec	But that's on old-fashioned rotating magnetic media. Scrubbing a volume of SSD's is much, much faster :)	[10:09]
kusuriya	i bet	[10:10]
_kapu_	submitted my solution and got like 6th place, there are some really crazy good vim guys there	[10:10]
kusuriya	specially since you get get 6Gbit from it	[10:10]
brycec	Nah, these are on a SATA2 controller, only 150MB/s	[10:10]
piroko	qbit: wat is windows 8 mode?	[10:10]
kusuriya	aw piroko: Metro	[10:10]
brycec	Even so, 20GB scrubbed in <2m	[10:10]
qbit	piroko, basically fullscreen	[10:14]
lteo	12:22 <@kyl> lteo: did you see 40% off at nsp? brah kyl: -.-	[10:24]
brycec	well lteo brah, did ya?	[10:24]
lteo	no did not brah	[10:25]
brycec	pfft rame	[10:25]
lteo	i need to actually finish at least one chapter of the n books i bought this year before i can justify buying more	[10:25]
lwhalen	any of you guys know how to read legalese? a good friend of mine owns his own very small consulting company	[10:25]
lteo	i know how to read it, but doesn't mean i understand it ;)	[10:25]
lwhalen	and he wants to hire me to buy and install a SAN for one of his clients	[10:26]
trafficone	I can read and understand it, but I might miss a nuance	[10:26]
lwhalen	even though he's a good close personal friend of mine	[10:26]
brycec	ditto, I'm no expert. And I certainly can't write it.	[10:26]
lwhalen	he dropped an NDA/non-compete on me that seems... a little excessive	[10:26]
brycec	lwhalen: drop it on us and let us review it? CROWDSOURCE IT	[10:26]
trafficone	wait	[10:27]
brycec	GROUPBRAIN GO	[10:27]
lwhalen	http://pastebin.com/yUB1SN44	[10:27]
trafficone	is the NDA self-referential?	[10:27]
brycec	heh a lot of them are :p	[10:27]
trafficone	lwhalen: if it's excessive, that's actually a potential weakness on his part because if he sues, you can use that against him in court	[10:27]
lteo	"You shall not disclose that this NDA even exists."	[10:27]
trafficone	although, it'd be "nicer" to present an NDA you can agree to	[10:28]
lwhalen	here's my response to his lawyer (also a close friend of mine), hence the informal tone: http://pastebin.com/6yAYm4fq	[10:28]
brycec	it's a lot of boilerplate stuff, of course	[10:28]
lwhalen	my biggest concern is line 14 (in my response)	[10:29]
brycec	"information of the Company and Company’s clients;" ? oh	[10:30]
lwhalen	http://pastebin.com/6yAYm4fq - The above and stuff like it is perfectly fine and reasonable. Should I do any of the above, I deserve to get the courtly ban-hammer dropped upon me like the fist of an angry god	[10:30]
trafficone	lwhalen: that's more important for account execs	[10:30]
lwhalen	that line and line 16	[10:30]
sharvey	lol so my visa application tries to avoid as many gender-specific words as possible and then failed at that	[10:31]
kusuriya	lwhalen: the noncompete id ask them to drop because of the survival clause	[10:31]
sharvey	so I'm a he according to this visa application	[10:31]
trafficone	sharvey: haha	[10:31]
kusuriya	because once you terminate me FUCK YOU ill work for who i want	[10:31]
sharvey	damn you male-dominated field of software engineering	[10:31]
benDos	wait what happened sharvey?	[10:31]
brycec	Who cares what your gender so long as they give you a decent credit limit	[10:32]
sharvey	my visa application has a part that explains what I'll be doing in the states	[10:32]
trafficone	haha bbl	[10:32]
sharvey	"the trainee/intern will do this, that, etc."	[10:32]
benDos	sharvey, taking jobs from americans	[10:32]
sharvey	and hten a part said "he will be ..." I was like, -.-	[10:32]
benDos	Hah Yeeeaaaaa	[10:32]
lteo	benDos: sharvey lives in north america ;)	[10:32]
benDos	sharvey, you know that for a while cs has more females than almost all the other sciences	[10:33]
lteo	counterstrike yeah!	[10:33]
benDos	it's only the last decade or so women (all of them) decided that programming was lame and graphic design is where it's at	[10:33]
sharvey	yeah :( pansies	[10:33]
benDos	bring it up at the next lady meeting?	[10:34]
kusuriya	lwhalen: also note their survival clause ivalidates their entire NDA/noncompete in most state courts :)	[10:34]
sharvey	nah, I'm just entertained I might pin it up or something on the wall because it's pretty lols	[10:34]
kusuriya	i know Cali and WA state "limits or terms of a contract can not extend past the length of the compensated portion of the contract."	[10:35]
brycec	^ sounds like it pertains to an employment contract, which this is not.	[10:35]
kusuriya	the judge essencially broke it down in WA stating if you want to keep access to an employees personal copyrights and have terms that exist beyond the contract you must keep the contract in perpetuity and the terms of the compensation for such brycec: employment and other work contracts the judes state you cant have terms of a contract that last beyond the length of the contract	[10:36]
lteo	right. once my length shortens, it's over.	[10:36]
brycec	Generall speaking lwhalen I'd say the contract looks pretty standard, pretty boilerplate, so there's at least nothing unusual or "hinky" in it.	[10:37]
kusuriya	yeah my only complaint in it is the survival, id ask either strike the non compete and keep survival or strike survival and keep the non compete those are the options id give them	[10:37]
brycec	That said, I would request a provision be added, given that you are a general IT contractor, that you may work with their clients outside of the contract provided you do nothing to "compete" with Company, LLC. Just my $.02 perhaps - provided that Company, LLC signs off on it.	[10:38]
kusuriya	i generally strike both if i can ive never ran into an issue with it but im in WA who generally finds in favor of the contractor so	[10:38]
brycec	(e.g. Client needs you do install some light bulbs, which Company LLC clearly has no interest in.)	[10:39]
kusuriya	things i like about WA, they genrally say FUCK YOUR NONCOMPETE SON	[10:41]
brycec	(I lol'd at your response's line 14 lwhalen )	[10:41]
kusuriya	^	[10:41]
brycec	Line 20 -- yep, you caught them using boilerplate stuff and they didn't update the #s brycec has done that many times brycec has executed a few contracts, if you know what he means. ;)	[10:41]
kusuriya	alll right and if it was me id have them fix 9 to 4 otherwise they may slip in the missing sections ;)	[10:43]
brycec	^	[10:45]
lteo	if they slip in something long in the bottom section, it might be painful for you in the long run	[10:47]
AmberJ_	Quality of education in India: Quoting a question from end semester exam: "What are exceptions in C?" :(	[10:47]
kyl	AmberJ_: well, what are they/	[10:48]
benDos	Trick question	[10:48]
lteo	i bet it's a tirck question	[10:48]
kyl	AmberJ_: let's see how educated you are	[10:48]
brycec	"fatal"	[10:48]
benDos	It's actually not a trick question of fatal	[10:48]
AmberJ_	err... here is the exact question:	[10:48]
benDos	they want you to check the over flow register flags	[10:49]
AmberJ_	"What is a exception in C programming language?"	[10:49]
qbit	http://sourceforge.net/p/keepass/discussion/329221/thread/b9e743f3#8391 ^^^ all you gentoo dudes	[10:49]
benDos	AmberJ_: "Exceptions are not part of the c99 or gnu99 c spec."	[10:49]
qbit	the cairo USE flag what is that	[10:49]
lteo	answer: exceptions are not used in C, but if really needed, they can be simulated with setjmp and longjmp. however doing so is considered bad practice. the programmer is better off choosing a language that does allow exceptions like C++ or Java.	[10:50]
AmberJ_	The instructor uses 20-30 year old Turbo C++ compiler (based on DOS)... so there is no doubt that instructor is totally stupid.	[10:50]
qbit	is that equiv to adding ./configure --with-cairo in libgdiplus?	[10:50]
AmberJ_	lteo, that^	[10:50]
benDos	no... longjmp can be used to do exceptions but 110% longjmp is not exceptions period they may be asking about errno.h?	[10:50]
lteo	that's why i say "simulated" ;)	[10:51]
AmberJ_	The instructor didn't really meant simulating or doing something similar... She is really really stupid! She teaches from a pre-ansi-c89 book!	[10:51]
benDos	k&r brah!	[10:51]
trafficone	haha	[10:51]
benDos	ALL THINGS ARE INT UNLESS YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE TROLLOLOLOLOL	[10:51]
mcchunkie	that's what she said!	[10:51]
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lteo	exceptions in C are done by first writing a C++ compiler in C, and then writing a C++ program that does exceptions which will be compiled by said compiler.	[10:52]
kyl	the instructor is clearly dumb	[10:52]
benDos	I think there is a case to be made that exceptions in c are errno patterns	[10:52]
trafficone	^	[10:52]
kyl	'a' is not the appropriate article for 'exception'	[10:52]
benDos	kyl, fuck you bro quit hate'n in indians you don't know maybe they don't believe in grammar	[10:52]
kyl	or do I?	[10:52]
benDos	With their loltastic blasphemy laws 'n shit And crazy civil wars over which make believe friend is best	[10:53]
trafficone	oh, THOSE Indians	[10:53]
lteo	i'm confused now	[10:53]
kyl	the sky wizard cults are endemic the world over	[10:53]
BryceBot	YER A WIZARD kyl	[10:53]
AmberJ_	I don't blame her for English. English is usually second language here in India, kyl. But I do blame her for her crap knowledge of CS/C.	[10:53]
kyl	nbd js AmberJ_: I was being facetious...	[10:53]
qbit	HOLY SHIT I FIXED IT!	[10:54]
lteo	o/	[10:54]
kyl	qbit: what are you even doing with gentoo? brah	[10:54]
qbit	openbsd	[10:54]
lteo	qbit fixed mono. this is not a simple feat.	[10:54]
kyl	the fuck are you trying to fix mono for?	[10:55]
AmberJ_	.define facetious	[10:55]
lazylopez_	To make an attempt at being funny, while being sarcastic at the same time.Jacky was being facetious when she said, "Yes, let's all go to Iraq for my birthday party!"	[10:55]
qbit	keepass	[10:55]
kyl	...	[10:55]
benDos	AmberJ_, what answer did you put?	[10:55]
lteo	kyl: what, you don't want to keep your ass?	[10:55]
trafficone	dude, Iraq has this great ice cream and IED place	[10:55]
kyl	lteo: no, I am trying to trim down my girlish figure brah	[10:55]
kusuriya	scones while you wair **wait	[10:55]
kyl	trafficone: s/ice cream/falafel/	[10:55]
trafficone	FALAFEL BATTLE!	[10:55]
benDos	FUCK THAT SHWARMA BITCHES	[10:56]
lteo	kyl: ok brah. i mean you go girl	[10:56]
AmberJ_	benDos, this question appeared in exam for 7th semester. I'm in 11th semester :D SO, I didn't had to answer this question.	[10:56]
mcchunkie	aw, where's the pun in that?	[10:56]
kyl	lteo: bro o/ ?	[10:56]
benDos	Oh.	[10:56]
qbit	lteo: http://deftly.net/keepassfix.diff	[10:56]
benDos	The correct answer would have been errno and macromagicks fact ^	[10:56]
kyl	the correct answer would have been fuck this, i'm out	[10:56]
lteo	qbit: hawt	[10:56]
AmberJ_	+1 kyl	[10:56]
kyl	call me when you learn some c	[10:57]
AmberJ_	I'm collecting exam papers for all semesters this year and I'm gonna do a writeup insulting all those crap teachers in my college.	[10:57]
benDos	s/l.+/have a degree	[10:57]
lazylopez_	I'm cohave a degree	[10:57]
benDos	doh. wanted the l :x AmberJ_, instead of that want to come to america and take my calculus final for me I'll pay you in like	[10:57]
AmberJ_	lol no.. :P	[10:58]
mcchunkie	That's what c0sh said!	[10:58]
AmberJ_	I suck at calculus	[10:58]
benDos	$10,000 worth of C99 info pages	[10:58]
trafficone	calculus is the cornerstone of several areas of modern math	[10:58]
lteo	AmberJ_: but you haz friends who rock at calculus right?	[10:58]
benDos	trafficone, yeah but none of the cool ones graph theory is where it's at	[10:58]
trafficone	yet many CS people claim that discrete math is the only sexy math graph theory does rock my socks	[10:58]
lteo	graph theory is cutting edge	[10:59]
benDos	cause set theory is really really important	[10:59]
trafficone	-_-	[10:59]
benDos	lteo, fucking zinged bro	[10:59]
AmberJ_	lteo, heh yea... they always make me feel inferior! :(	[10:59]
benDos	I want to tramp stamp that on myself now	[10:59]
lteo	(=^.^=)	[10:59]
kyl	><	[10:59]
benDos	trafficone, i just got told that everett would be abit far out	[11:00]
kusuriya	it kinda is	[11:00]
benDos	the idea that i may pay less than 1000/m for a decent 2bdrm	[11:01]
kusuriya	but not really bad	[11:01]
benDos	with just an hour 15 or so commute sounded super sexy I also want to see how much my car insurance would be cheaper != kings	[11:01]
kusuriya	benDos: come down into renton	[11:01]
trafficone	haha	[11:03]
benDos	light link into work also sounds neat	[11:03]
trafficone	yeah	[11:03]
benDos	kusuriya, are you in renton proper?	[11:03]
trafficone	it really does	[11:03]
benDos	everett seemed like 20 to 30% less than where i was looking in kings county for larger apartments	[11:05]
trafficone	TBQH, everett has some serious charm. FIOS, proximity to quaint Whidbey Island while still not too far from Seattle, and overall cost of living is cheaper	[11:06]
benDos	FIOS you say... benDos is looking up whidbey	[11:06]
trafficone	IIRC, from Shoreline to Everett there's FIOS, but YMMV, so check w/ Verizon	[11:07]
benDos	The wiki article doesn't make it seem that cool?	[11:07]
trafficone	it's quaint, not "cool"	[11:08]
benDos	Heh ok Realistically from the sound transit to kings street station i mean it's like 1:10 or so on the schedule for all the trains	[11:08]
lteo	my hobby is capitalizing SQL keywords	[11:09]
kyl	i like to alternate the caps sElEcT	[11:10]
lteo	i like to name my tables as SQL keywords	[11:10]
kyl	sElEcT FoO fRoM bAr WhErE bAz='quux';	[11:10]
lteo	CREATE TABLE create(...	[11:10]
dbtid	actually, ANSI C has floating point exceptions... that's the term they use, and they use the terminology of "raising" them. no, it's not the C++ meaning of exceptions, but they do use those terms. they also use the term "object", so C is an object-oriented language, too. and IIRC the new C ?C11? is going to be doing some funky-ass stupid things, too, to make it more like C++ last i heard, there were going to be some extensions for doing threading in C	[11:11]
trafficone	dbtid: I thought floating point overflows were in the CPU and you just read the flags from it, or is there another sort of floating point exception I'm confusing?	[11:12]
dbtid	trafficone: here's the issue... what does "exception" mean? what does it mean to "raise an exception?" in C++ it means one thing, in C it means another.	[11:13]
benDos	dtthat's what i said :/	[11:13]
dbtid	in the case of C, it's something that gets checked and a status flag is set somewhere.	[11:13]
benDos	dbtid, * ^ the register flags	[11:13]
trafficone	ah, gotcha	[11:14]
dbtid	well, yes, i think the register flags are used to set status flags. by conforming machines.	[11:14]
benDos	same thing can be done for int arithmetic on most modern cpu's I believe SSE or AVX has some more required flag registers	[11:14]
dbtid	i don't know of a CPU in the last 20 years, since i started doing embedded systems, that doesn't have a status register. it's kind of an important thing. perhaps on an asynchronously clocked cpu you would do things differently. i don't know.	[11:15]
benDos	There aren't (m)any good reasons when designing a cpu to not have those flag registers You have that information anyway, no reason to force your users to spend dozens of cycles to calculate something you already know	[11:16]
kusuriya	kusuriya makes a processor with 0 flag registers NONE!	[11:17]
benDos	Is it a gpu? I imagine at least some gpu's don't bother	[11:17]
kusuriya	could be	[11:18]
trafficone	benDos: that'd make sense, you could save space, and the expectation is that you won't care if there's an issue because there won't be time to correct it	[11:22]
benDos	Yeah gpu's don't give two shits about most errors "OH NOOOOOO a couple pixels may be slightly off for one frame" seattle has sooooo much suburban sprawl Every area i zoom into looks the same :/	[11:23]
kusuriya	benDos: seattle is one large city from everett to tacoma and out to redmond	[11:24]
benDos	I'm starting to see that now	[11:24]
kusuriya	its kinda like looking down the seaboard on the east coast	[11:24]
benDos	Heh And I suppose even half an hour off my commute each way saves me 5 hours a week yeeeaah	[11:24]
trafficone	compared to the Phoenix valley, it just doesn't feel like that much suburban sprawl to me	[11:25]
kusuriya	benDos: just note this area has the highest average commute in the US in terms of time	[11:25]
benDos	Wtf.	[11:25]
kusuriya	yep	[11:25]
benDos	I'm confused.	[11:25]
lteo	anyone knows a simple markdown parser script that'[s written in perl?	[11:25]
benDos	So everyone is telling me that if i do bellevue renton etc my commute will be like half an hour maybe 45 min right?	[11:26]
kusuriya	yep and thats about right	[11:26]
qbit	lteo: https://github.com/bobtfish/text-markdown	[11:26]
benDos	But in NYC a significant portion of people commute an hour and half if not more Man idk	[11:26]
lteo	qbit: hawt thanks	[11:27]
kusuriya	the average commute in the seattle metro area is 35 miles and 1hr 45 minutes	[11:27]
benDos	If i need to chill on a train for another half hour a day, i really need to decide if that's worth another 200sqrt on my apt and another 200 in my pocket per month	[11:27]
kusuriya	due to traffic	[11:27]
benDos	Hm	[11:27]
kusuriya	but if you get on the train or light rail the commute is not affected by traffic and the busses are affectex less	[11:27]
AmberJ_	benDos, lteo, dbtid: This exam paper will show you how dumb the instructor is (if you have a look at other questions). She didn't meant a trick question when she asked about "exceptions in C": http://i.imgur.com/dHazD.jpg getch(), getche() :P	[11:28]
benDos	I don't know off the top of my head what getch and getche are	[11:29]
dbtid	iirc getch and getche were DOS functions, one to get a char, one to get a char and echo yeah, conio.h	[11:29]
AmberJ_	right dbtid ... old pre-ansi-c89 compilers	[11:29]
dbtid	standard DOS programming	[11:29]
AmberJ_	yup	[11:30]
benDos	If it isn't linux i don't know shit about it	[11:30]
AmberJ_	Don't worry benDos, it's over 20 years old shit	[11:30]
benDos	linux is over 20	[11:30]
AmberJ_	I meant getch(), DOS programming when I said 20 years old shit	[11:31]
lteo	oh wow i found a really awesome markdown parser thanks to qbit's link http://www.frykholm.se/files/markdown.lua	[11:31]
AmberJ_	"Write a perl code to differentiate between do-while and until loop." (stupid 4 marks question in exam for a post graduate CS program) "Explain last and next jump statements in perl with example" <-- wtf? there could be better perl questions in a bioinformatics exam...	[11:31]
lteo	answer: @$@$9832587jdsifsdkaw9a8$^^$%!%%!%!	[11:33]
benDos	Are they seriously testing how well you memorized spec? Instead of "do x" or fix y "Why is this not working" etc	[11:33]
lteo	education is done very differently in other parts of the world brah	[11:33]
benDos	"education"?	[11:34]
AmberJ_	especially developing countries..	[11:34]
qbit	whoa nice	[11:35]
lteo	benDos: in many asian countries, the teacher is god, you do not question what s/he teaches.	[11:36]
zod000	benDos: memorizing spec is easy mode, sign me up	[11:36]
mcchunkie	(╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻	[11:36]
zod000	jk btw	[11:36]
lteo	that has hopefully changed now	[11:36]
kyl	lteo: bro blackfriday	[11:36]
zod000	lteo: they changed it to "lteo is god, you do not question his trolls"	[11:36]
benDos	lteo, that's how it was at RIT	[11:37]
kyl	https://github.com/russross/blackfriday/	[11:37]
benDos	They tried to fire me when I asked one of profs about something she told us to look into kyl, that looks sweet	[11:37]
zod000	benDos: did you ask him "what does god need wit ha starship?"	[11:37]
lteo	kyl: nice	[11:37]
kyl	lteo: i'm using it in a wiki project brah	[11:38]
zod000	sorry, i was reading about star trek earlier	[11:38]
benDos	Hah	[11:38]
kyl	it' pretty nice	[11:38]
benDos	No i got hired as a summer researcher at a rochester institute of tech, big research uni in ny One of the profs had us look at a particular type of encryption I mentioned another paper i had read that claimed what she was putting forward to be mostly broken Instead of finding a paper to show me or using maths she went to my boss and suggested he fire me	[11:38]
zod000	interesting take on the ad hominem	[11:41]
lteo	how dare you question her choice of hybrid Caesar/XOR/ROT13 encryption!	[11:41]
kyl	passed through a custom vigenere	[11:41]
AmberJ_	heh	[11:41]
benDos	It was about using encrypted data in cloud calculation	[11:42]
dbtid	lteo: ROT26	[11:42]
kyl	ROT52	[11:42]
benDos	Noobs	[11:42]
zod000	dbtid: ROT26 is doubly effective, and so light on the cpu	[11:42]
benDos	26 and 52 aren't powers of two	[11:42]
kyl	nope which will throw them off	[11:42]
zod000	what criminal mind could break this? NONE	[11:42]
kyl	ROT67108864 ^ there's your fucking power of two, benDos	[11:43]
dbtid	zod000: EXACTLY! high preformance and unbreakable, since no one would ever believe someone would use it!	[11:43]
kyl	>.>	[11:43]
lteo	stupid computer not knowing that i meant to press OK instead of Cancle	[11:45]
benDos	Let iptables do your encryption, XOR target.	[11:45]
lteo	i only use USDA Prime numbers for my RSA algorithm.	[11:45]
kyl	benDos: are you not letting iptables do your encryption?	[11:46]
benDos	Ohh yay	[11:46]
zod000	lteo: tasty and secure	[11:46]
kyl	lteo: bro which is why i use 0xDEADBEEF for my IVs	[11:47]
piroko	I swear we do more nerf wars than work here	[11:47]
kyl	piroko: what is it you would say that you do there?	[11:47]
piroko	lol	[11:47]
zod000	kyl: I assumed he mean using a prime number of ounces for a steak zod000 wants a 19oz filet	[11:47]
kyl	i'm not going to lie	[11:48]
lteo	so i'll just sit down	[11:48]
kyl	i would take an 18oz filet	[11:48]
zod000	kyl: prepare to have your steak compromised	[11:48]
kyl	i'll compromise your steak, if you know what i mean	[11:49]
benDos	Ok i'm going home bbiab gaiz	[11:51]
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piroko	Ke$ha has such great lyrics	[11:52]
kusuriya	.addtroll Ke$ha has such great lyrics	[11:54]
lazylopez_	Ke$ha has such great lyrics: was added	[11:54]
kusuriya	.troll	[11:54]
lazylopez_	v8 is probably the 3rd slowest thing i have ever seen	[11:54]
jrick	.troll	[11:54]
lazylopez_	I love working on my tax return!	[11:54]
jrick	.troll	[11:54]
lazylopez_	Using .docx to save source files will allow you to colour hilight your syntax.	[11:54]
jrick	lol	[11:54]
piroko	hahahahahahaha That one is awesome	[11:54]
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kyl	.troll \| s/^/jrick: / \| s/$/ -- brycec/	[11:56]
lazylopez_	jrick: star wars is meh -- brycec	[11:56]
brycec	/kick	[11:56]
kyl	.troll \| s/^/jrick: / \| s/$/ -- brycec/	[11:56]
lazylopez_	jrick: qbit, are you sure you still don't want the 2GB HD ~2 minutes long porn video? :P -- brycec	[11:56]
kusuriya	.troll \| s/^/kyl says: /	[11:57]
lazylopez_	kyl says: holding out for when the iPhone supports Java.	[11:57]
brycec	damnit that was annoying	[11:57]
jrick	.troll \| s/^/brycec: / \| s/$/ -- brycec/	[11:57]
lazylopez_	brycec: "if only bing has google mode, where you can search on bing to get your rewards but it gives you google results" -- brycec	[11:57]
brycec	1pm is a terrible time for an ISP to reboot my modem	[11:57]
kusuriya	.troll \| s/^/kyl says: /	[11:57]
lazylopez_	kyl says: i wish somebody would write a decent window manager for linux	[11:57]
piroko	hahaha This channel is pure gold I'm glad I just found it Someone query when I joined. I can't remember the command	[11:58]
kusuriya	.troll \| s/^/piroko says: /	[11:59]
lazylopez_	piroko says: javascript has been a joke since its inception, never taken seriously or cared about. Barely tolerated by most experienced programmers	[11:59]
brycec	piroko: my logs first show you Oct 6, 2010	[12:00]
mcchunkie	(╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻	[12:00]
piroko	Huh. That's totally something I'd say	[12:00]
kusuriya	.troll \| s/^/kusuriya says: /	[12:00]
lazylopez_	kusuriya says: Increase your size day by day	[12:00]
piroko	brycec: Wow. Longest I've ever stayed in a channel	[12:00]
kusuriya	@kusuriya	[12:00]
BryceBot	Jul 06, 2012 14:23:57 <kusuriya> brycec: ive made a few drones, I have a small scale drone that i can shoot spitballs from	[12:00]
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kyl	.troll \| s/^/kusuriya: / \| s/$/ -- brycec/	[12:04]
lazylopez_	kusuriya: All my IP addresses start with 127 -- brycec	[12:04]
brycec	Actually that was my .troll	[12:04]
kyl	.troll \| s/^/piroko: / \| s/$/ -- brycec/	[12:04]
lazylopez_	piroko: Oh, well if NetBSD agrees with it, then it's flat out wrong. -- brycec	[12:04]
brycec	12:43 <@brycec> .addtroll All my IP addresses start with 127	[12:04]
piroko	brycec: I agree	[12:04]
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kusuriya	.troll \| s/^/brycec says: /	[12:14]
lazylopez_	brycec says: Your VBScript code looks very elegant.	[12:14]
chi	lal	[12:15]
brycec	these hilights are getting annoying	[12:15]
kusuriya	:P kusuriya stops	[12:15]
brycec	Thank you	[12:15]
AmberJ_	b.r.y.c.e.c	[12:15]
trafficone	s/.//	[12:17]
lazylopez_	brycec	[12:17]
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brycec	okay it was actually clever	[12:19]
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benDos	back	[12:20]
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trafficone	potato \| s/(.)/1./ \| s/.$//	[12:21]
lazylopez_	potato	[12:21]
trafficone	that's cool lazylopez_ I'mma get some pizza	[12:21]
brycec	nice. very nice.	[12:23]
benDos	kusuriya, sorry were you in renton?	[12:23]
lteo	s/en/ec/ \| s/on/um/	[12:24]
lazylopez_	kusuriya, sorry were you in rectum?	[12:24]
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kusuriya	benDos: i am well will be	[12:25]
brycec	kusuriya: ooh so you got the place?	[12:25]
kusuriya	brycec: nah still thinking positive thoughts ill know today hopefully but they havent put the property on the market so	[12:26]
benDos	Hmm	[12:26]
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benDos	Oh a bunch of park and rides in renton neat	[12:27]
kusuriya	tons Renton is a large commuter area youll either commute to renton to work at boeing or commute from renton to seattle or redmond	[12:28]
benDos	Oh mang no light link rail in renton :/	[12:28]
kusuriya	no light rail goes from the airport to downtowm only commuter rail goes from tacoma to everett	[12:28]
benDos	I thought you said there was some train i could take from renton to downtown?	[12:29]
kusuriya	no that was everett	[12:29]
benDos	Oh Oohkay :/ So i'd be busing it from renton?	[12:29]
kusuriya	yep or bussing to light rail and going in	[12:29]
benDos	Bus to light rail or just bus seems ok i guess Not nearly as cool as taking a train from everett to like 75 ft from my office though	[12:31]
kusuriya	yeah it gets a bit crowded on the buses but the bus stops like right infront of your office so	[12:31]
brycec	Plus trains are cool	[12:31]
kusuriya	well the regular commuter train comes with internets IIRC	[12:32]
benDos	The bus and light link are right there i think sound transit either is right there or right up the street	[12:32]
kusuriya	the sounder is up at the end of the block	[12:32]
qbit	o/ p/	[12:32]
benDos	i don't know if kings street station == international district station	[12:32]
kusuriya	benDos: it is	[12:32]
benDos	Yeah see that seemed neat	[12:32]
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benDos	How does renton fair on rent	[12:33]
kusuriya	when you come up out of the tunnel for the station to the left is the stadium to the right is international district	[12:33]
benDos	I haven't looked into renton too much yet been busy sweet	[12:33]
kusuriya	benDos: 1075 sqft house 3 bd 1395/month	[12:33]
mcchunkie	New sets for loongson! New sets for i386! New sets for amd64!	[12:33]
qbit	WHOA	[12:33]
kusuriya	750sqft apt with 1bd and office was 850	[12:33]
benDos	Hmm not too shabby Ok that sounds sweet To start with anyone Once i get a feel for my actual expenses i think a nicer apt will be in order but to start as i said i'm underbudgeting like crazy with anyway*	[12:33]
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brycec	It's fun to have a semi- widely-used application on Pushover :) My own personal "applications" only get a few pushes in a month, but hey now I get to see the pretty graphs	[12:36]
benDos	pushover?	[12:37]
brycec	pushover.net	[12:37]
benDos	checking it out now so it's like twitter?	[12:37]
brycec	no no	[12:37]
benDos	</troll> :p I gotcha	[12:37]
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piroko	DURR I'M CINCINNATI BELL I'LL BE AT YOUR HOUSE BETWEEN 8 AND 12 TODAY	[12:38]
brycec	unless you use Twitter like Pushover (which I do actually)	[12:38]
piroko	LOL OOPS IT'S 2 O'CLOCK	[12:38]
brycec	piroko: and were they? ha	[12:38]
benDos	PIROKO DID YOU TRY JIGGLING THE CABLES?	[12:38]
kyl	LOUD NOISES	[12:38]
piroko	WHAT? YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CAT TO THE VET? WHY DIDN'T YOU LEAVE YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING DAY WIDE OPEN? Oh sorry Caps lock key got stuck	[12:38]
benDos	More like pirokoangrymode got stuck.	[12:39]
kyl	DOESN'T MATTER, WE DON'T NEED LOWERCASE WHERE WE'RE GOING	[12:39]
brycec	WOOHOO WE CAN SAVE BITS IF WE DON'T BOTHER WITH CASE	[12:39]
qbit	OH kyl:	[12:39]
kyl	WECANSAVEBITSIFWEDONTBOTHERWITHSPACES	[12:39]
qbit	oh!	[12:39]
benDos	IRC IS FASTER THAN NODEJS NOW LOLOLOLZ	[12:39]
qbit	ha kyl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmd8MpJjQJw OH	[12:39]
BryceBot	YouTube People: "Heymoonshaker - Ten letter word" by officialdavecrowe (1m 42s), 1,411 views, 26 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-07-21T00:38:05.000Z.	[12:40]
kyl	qbit: bro WAT	[12:40]
qbit	BRO THAT PLAYITLOUD	[12:40]
benDos	kyl, that youtube link The ten letter word thing	[12:40]
brycec	BRORGY	[12:40]
benDos	I imagine that's what he was talking about anyway	[12:40]
qbit	qbit gets his BROFIST	[12:40]
kyl	DAFUQISTHISSHIT	[12:40]
benDos	benDos gets his BROGAT Spoiler a BROGAT is just a glock i clean with axe.	[12:40]
qbit	til benDos uses axe body spray.. and calls it "gat"	[12:42]
benDos	I think your reading comprehension is a bit shoddy today	[12:43]
brycec	s/ddy/t/	[12:43]
lazylopez_	I think your reading comprehension is a bit shot today	[12:43]
benDos	Both work?	[12:43]
brycec	Yes	[12:44]
kyl	GUYS WHYAREYOUBACKTOLCASE	[12:45]
brycec	BECAUSERAPE	[12:45]
qbit	roughro someone is gonan get butt probbed heymoonshaker's other music saddens me because it isn't as awesome as that song	[12:45]
dbtid	qbit: you getting butt probed? i thought you liked girls...	[12:47]
benDos	TIL pltgames.com is super fucking awesome	[12:47]
dbtid	does your fiance know???	[12:47]
benDos	monthly programming language game	[12:48]
brycec	dbtid: who said it wasn't his girl doing the probing?	[12:48]
qbit	^ nbdjs	[12:48]
dbtid	brycec: i suppose not. silly me.	[12:49]
brycec	shame on you, jumping to conclusions...	[12:49]
dbtid	well, at least it's not the only exercise i get...	[12:50]
brycec	zing!	[12:50]
qbit	http://boingboing.net/2012/12/04/tallest-possible-lego-tower-he.html <--- best use of math today s/today/todate/	[12:53]
lazylopez_	http://boingboing.net/2012/12/04/tallest-possible-lego-tower-he.html <--- best use of math todate	[12:53]
benDos	hah	[12:54]
kusuriya	hmm should i get a lack rack or just buy a real rack	[13:01]
lteo	buy a real lack rack	[13:03]
kusuriya	pft	[13:03]
trafficone	I haven't seen real racks in 2' heights so, AFAICT, it's either Lack hack or hack something else	[13:05]
brycec	lack rack ftw you can always stack lack racks	[13:05]
kusuriya	^	[13:05]
brycec	I love lack racks...	[13:06]
trafficone	get slack, stack-lack-rack hack in your crack shack	[13:06]
brycec	Of course, be careful when racking heavy things, be sure you've braced the legs adequately	[13:06]
kusuriya	well morsi is out now XD	[13:06]
trafficone	oh baby	[13:06]
brycec	but it's still super-cheap and easy, and stylish	[13:06]
kusuriya	http://youtu.be/rsBJ7gPoRmw	[13:06]
BryceBot	YouTube News: "Morsi flees as angry crowd storms palace in Cairo, battles riot police" by RussiaToday (5m 43s), 302 views, 89 likes and 5 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-12-04T20:00:33.000Z.	[13:06]
kusuriya	they stormed his place guess his strong arming trying to force egypt to be like the rest of the muslim states didnt sit well with people	[13:06]
trafficone	sure he didn't just have a crazy party and forgot to set his privacy settings?	[13:07]
kusuriya	trafficone: he tried to set his privacy settings thats the issue he set them to ultra high then started trying to write the egyptian constitution	[13:08]
trafficone	well put	[13:08]
kusuriya	the people simply said "look fucker we want freedom of everything and not another dictator"	[13:09]
trafficone	so, reading comments on cnn.com makes me weep for America	[13:11]
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kusuriya	i cant weep any more for america the picture of the lady eating a block of cheese was all i had	[13:12]
trafficone	either thinking that Morsi is the same as Obama, or that Egyptian democracy works exactly like the US	[13:12]
benDos	kusuriya, does http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/04/1938212/cops-to-congress-we-need-logs-of-americans-text-messages help?	[13:12]
lteo	trafficone: lol	[13:12]
kusuriya	benDos: nope i already knew that	[13:12]
trafficone	kusuriya: you've literally run out of fucks to give	[13:13]
kusuriya	trafficone: yeah now is the time for action im all out of fucks to give for complaining about it	[13:13]
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kusuriya	im working with my GF to teach her how to use an encrypted SMS app i have	[13:14]
benDos	pidgin-otr is super super easy	[13:14]
kusuriya	yeah but pidgin OTR doesnt work on the phone or on the go	[13:14]
benDos	I use that with my gf sometimes I guess	[13:14]
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kusuriya	but yeah encrypt all the things you want to try to piss in my cherrios gubmint ill just make it harder :)	[13:15]
trafficone	I don't understand why anyone doing anything illegal wouldn't already be using encrypted sms messages or at least anonymous phones for their illegal activities	[13:16]
benDos	trafficone, if you know enough to use encrypted messages you probably can swing a living doing something that won't land you in jail	[13:16]
lteo	this is how my encrypted text message looks like: y0 d00d w3 d0!ng s0m3th!n6 i113g4L y0	[13:17]
benDos	s/$/obama 911 flu	[13:17]
lazylopez_	this is how my encrypted text message looks like: y0 d00d w3 d0!ng s0m3th!n6 i113g4L y0obama 911 flu	[13:17]
trafficone	seriously, search TWITTER for <area code> <drug> HMU it's depressing	[13:18]
kusuriya	^	[13:18]
qbit	so much bad music	[13:18]
benDos	trafficone, i'm gonna go check now :p;	[13:18]
qbit	what is HMU? how much?	[13:19]
benDos	hit me up	[13:19]
trafficone	qbit: hit me up	[13:19]
qbit	haha nice i like the notacop twitter profile https://twitter.com/notapoliceman	[13:19]
trafficone	if you're willing to search facebook, it's all over there too	[13:19]
kusuriya	as well as pictures of peoples drug scores people as a whole are dumb	[13:19]
qbit	credit cards	[13:20]
benDos	Dude trafficone you were serious	[13:20]
trafficone	benDos: :-( sad story, bro	[13:20]
benDos	i mean the zip code didn't work but #somearea weed hmu seems to hit all the time	[13:20]
brycec	eg https://twitter.com/Noah480/status/275065442874318849	[13:21]
BryceBot	TWITTER: Anyone need bud hmu tonight its 25 a g but its the best weed in az and ill hook up!! Just hmu on twitter or text me 480-430-9775 (Sun Dec 02 02:34:46 +0000 2012)	[13:21]
brycec	zip codes are kinda small, hence ppl use area codes instead	[13:21]
benDos	heh i'll try that no go lol	[13:21]
kusuriya	benDos: HMU is code word for IAMA COP	[13:24]
benDos	Lol Cops on the internet	[13:24]
trafficone	it happens	[13:24]
benDos	When they try to pick up some kid to diddle and it turns out to be another cop Then whoever says "GOTCHA" first they get to make the arrest	[13:25]
kyl	https://twitter.com/notpolice/status/275360375879397376 hahahahaha	[13:25]
BryceBot	TWITTER: I have all these empty tobacco blankets but no marijuanas to roll in them :( can someone please help me out?? (Sun Dec 02 22:06:44 +0000 2012, retweeted 221 times)	[13:25]
trafficone	and it's safe to assume that everyone offering drugs/hookup info on the Internet is a cop	[13:25]
kusuriya	yep	[13:25]
benDos	On one hand I agree On the other, i don't try to find drugs or hookups on twitter so i'm good	[13:25]
trafficone	well, yeah, that's because of the safe assumption like, it's probably a mix of cops/dumbasses but someone involved in that wouldn't want to get mixed up with either	[13:26]
kyl	man i start looking through twitter especially the @needadebitcard people	[13:26]
lteo	and was amazed at the quality of the tweets	[13:27]
kyl	and it's like, fuckkk, these are real people	[13:27]
sharvey	hahahahaa	[13:27]
benDos	I assume about 1/3rd of what i read online is written by some poor inmate in a chinese jail	[13:27]
sharvey	I assume some small portion of what I read online is by a poor phd student who's lost all hope	[13:27]
benDos	phdcomics?	[13:28]
qbit	ha	[13:28]
sharvey	(#csc has a resident phd student who is a huge troll)	[13:28]
kyl	any time anyone wants to debate the question of whether we share a common ancestry with monkeys	[13:28]
brycec	sharvey: is it YOU?	[13:28]
kyl	i just point out the internet	[13:28]
trafficone	s/ a / several /	[13:28]
lazylopez_	i just point out the internet	[13:28]
sharvey	brycec: no	[13:28]
benDos	#csc has some lols	[13:28]
sharvey	brycec: but, people have accused me of being this other person	[13:28]
benDos	used to idle in there	[13:28]
brycec	lol	[13:28]
sharvey	benDos: I am now on csc syscom	[13:28]
trafficone	bryce just accused you right now	[13:29]
sharvey	and was csc sysadmin last term kyl: hahahaha	[13:29]
kyl	syscom == system commander?	[13:29]
trafficone	maybe it's your secret other identity that even you don't know about?	[13:29]
sharvey	kyl: systems committee	[13:29]
kyl	trafficone: MPD	[13:29]
benDos	Ohh	[13:29]
trafficone	do you get nasty messages from yourself?	[13:29]
kyl	holy shit canada is being all communist	[13:29]
benDos	system commander is way cooler	[13:29]
kyl	what with committees and bulshit	[13:29]
sharvey	hahaha	[13:29]
kyl	*bullshit	[13:29]
benDos	Bro	[13:29]
lteo	kyl: syskom?	[13:29]
benDos	We have committees to.	[13:29]
kyl	(my officemate is french canadian)	[13:29]
sharvey	we have n systems psh french canadians don't count	[13:29]
brycec	oh you poor thing kyl	[13:30]
sharvey	they're a separate species	[13:30]
benDos	Yeah fuck those guys!	[13:30]
kyl	sharvey: DON'T TRY TO SWAY ME WITH YOUR CANADIA^wCOMMERNIST LIES sharvey: i'm just gonna lump you in	[13:30]
lteo	sharvey: if they don't count, how do they do math?	[13:30]
kyl	^	[13:30]
sharvey	lteo: I see what you did there	[13:30]
kyl	but do you	[13:30]
benDos	lteo, you are none stop with the pun train for like a week Stop watching so much sienfeld.	[13:30]
sharvey	are you trying to revoke his pun card	[13:31]
lteo	benDos: dude i've always been on the pun train	[13:31]
benDos	Maybe i just started paying attention? Idk	[13:31]
sharvey	benDos: you're just a hater	[13:31]
benDos	False	[13:31]
kyl	true	[13:31]
trafficone	error	[13:31]
kyl	benDos is a professional hater	[13:31]
benDos	NILOLOLOL	[13:31]
kyl	of everything and everyone	[13:31]
sharvey	hahaha	[13:32]
kyl	trafficone: ENOLOVE ?	[13:32]
sharvey	we had ENOBEER earlier on saturday it was catastrophic	[13:32]
kyl	yeah actually i do believe that's an EMERG in syslog benDos: I'm sorry, I was wrong	[13:32]
mcchunkie	New sets for macppc!	[13:33]
benDos	kyl, are you still mad that i dynamicly link things sometimes? dynamically even	[13:33]
kusuriya	ECLOBBER	[13:33]
kyl	no, i just realised you don't hate everything	[13:33]
benDos	~java?	[13:34]
lteo	lteo bracs..	[13:34]
kyl	i forgot how much you love calc2	[13:34]
benDos	Every thing such that thing != calc2 that's true	[13:34]
sharvey	calc2 isn't hard	[13:34]
lteo	benDos: ^	[13:34]
kyl	tell that to benDos	[13:34]
lteo	benDos: finally! someone who can help!	[13:34]
dbtid	SIX MORE WORK DAYS!	[13:35]
benDos	heh benDos does calc2 as the level of a four year old and graph traversal like a chinese	[13:36]
lteo	apply graph theory to solve calc2 - problem solved	[13:36]
benDos	Bro Neural network to solve integrals done and done Neural networks as you know work for prettty much everything And are the optimal solution for approximately nothing	[13:37]
trafficone	sounds like a brain to me	[13:37]
benDos	neural networks vary in the biological fidelity I've written some with a neuroscientist so the software models brain activity and others use similar concepts with no regard for how closely the model matches a brain ugh i'm gonna miss doing research projects :/	[13:38]
kusuriya	haha my favorite gun ban argument of all time	[13:40]
benDos	yesh?	[13:40]
kusuriya	"Well you see if we eleminate the demand the supply will and blackmarket will dwindle"	[13:41]
benDos	That's true	[13:41]
dbtid	yeah, because only brand new guns are sold on the black market.	[13:41]
benDos	I mean false premise and shit	[13:41]
kusuriya	yeah tell me how well that has worked to stop prostitution	[13:41]
dbtid	so yeah, that would dry it up.	[13:41]
benDos	but that statement taken as it's own is true	[13:41]
brycec	eliminate... the demand... for gun, power, etc? LMFAO *its benDos	[13:41]
kusuriya	benDos: no where has that statement ever been true :P prohibition, prostitution, drugs	[13:41]
benDos	Wut Are we talking about the same quote	[13:42]
lteo	my powerful gun has eliminated its supply due to huge demand	[13:42]
kusuriya	yes	[13:42]
benDos	If you eliminate demand, markets shrink fact of economics	[13:42]
kusuriya	so if we take colaries that have blackmarkets where we already have outlawed and "eleminated" the demand	[13:42]
benDos	That said	[13:42]
lteo	eleminate everything	[13:42]
benDos	Demand for drugs, guns, paying for sex, has never been addressed in law	[13:42]
kusuriya	the black markets for them thrive	[13:42]
benDos	Aside from putting people in jail if you get caught That's why i said it's true but a false premise	[13:42]
kusuriya	benDos: um yes it has for sex in some states for sex anyway	[13:43]
benDos	hm? People in Nevada all drive to henderson to get their knob slobbed? No.	[13:43]
kusuriya	in Kansas City Kansas it is illegal to be caught trying to solicit sex	[13:43]
benDos	Right as in most places curbs demand no eliminated	[13:43]
kusuriya	so if you are the john its outlawed it doesnt really curb demand the black market for it is still strong as ever	[13:44]
benDos	This argument is going no where We both agree And both are not going to bother to find facts to support out side	[13:44]
kyl	and now for our daily drugs / guns / political argument	[13:44]
benDos	Too late kyl already quashed it with muh logic skillz	[13:44]
kyl	hahahahahahahaha	[13:45]
kusuriya	benDos: not really but meh	[13:45]
kyl	the same logic skills that lead you to DYNAMICALLY LINK THINGS psh	[13:45]
benDos	Hah	[13:45]
sharvey	are we talking about sex?	[13:45]
kyl	>.>	[13:45]
lteo	what's this dynamically link things reference?	[13:45]
benDos	lteo, kyl things dynamically linking libs will shrink his peep	[13:45]
kyl	<-- doesn't like dynamic libs	[13:45]
benDos	thinks*	[13:45]
kyl	and bendos needs an attack ad hominem to support his argument	[13:46]
trafficone	sharvey: not in Kansas City, we're not	[13:46]
kyl	kyl shrugs	[13:46]
sharvey	ok	[13:46]
lteo	kyl: so all your binaries are statically linked?	[13:46]
kyl	as much as i can	[13:46]
benDos	kusuriya, so you are going to go find a source accurately reports demand for prostitutes is unrelated to legality/	[13:46]
kyl	on os x, that's not easy	[13:46]
benDos	just not kyl, isn't that sop on irc	[13:46]
kusuriya	benDos: but all im saying is i love when people use that argument to espouse gun bans thinking its a magic bullet	[13:46]
benDos	i agree :p that's why i said we agree and arguing further was silly brb though	[13:46]
trafficone	typically, states outlaw johns and pimps and basically assume that all prostitutes are slaves	[13:49]
benDos	lteo, sta.li http://sta.li rather it's like totally not a troll distro according to kyl	[13:49]
trafficone	instead of implementing industrial oversight, they force the market underground and put legit prostitutes in unnecessary harm	[13:49]
kusuriya	^	[13:50]
benDos	also puritan ideas about sex that paying for sex is baaaaad	[13:50]
kusuriya	trafficone: well its 50 50 right now half the states outlaw johns half outlaw the hoes all outlaw the pimps	[13:50]
trafficone	I think that that's the main reason they don't regulate the system 'cause sex is ickypants	[13:51]
mcchunkie	(╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻	[13:51]
kusuriya	some states belive by removing the supply you remove the demand, and by removing the demand you remove the supply but if you go to an area where its legal and regulated there are very few problems like reno reno sucks for a whole host of problems but the hookers are not one of them	[13:51]
trafficone	well, it kind of double sucks, because if youuu are a ho and you need protecction, your only option is to go with a pimp	[13:53]
dbtid	especially because there won't be any guns with which you could protect yourself.	[13:53]
trafficone	well, you could always keep a derringer in your pooper, but...	[13:53]
dbtid	but that's a gun and guns are bad no one should be able to own a gun guns kill people!	[13:54]
kyl	truth	[13:54]
trafficone	so do pimps	[13:54]
dbtid	like that football player who could ONLY have killed his gf with a gun!	[13:54]
trafficone	if it comes to that	[13:54]
kusuriya	trafficone: pimps like to break legs first as a warning	[13:54]
kyl	dbtid: it's been scientifically proven	[13:54]
trafficone	also large wads of meat	[13:54]
kusuriya	indimidation goes a long way	[13:54]
dbtid	he could NEVER have used a knife (outlaw those) or a baseball bat (ban those too) or a screwdriver (ban them!!!)	[13:54]
lteo	or a frozen turkey	[13:55]
kusuriya	dbtid: or just beat her do death	[13:55]
dbtid	he could never have strangled her with his HUUUUUGE football player arms (BAN FOOTBALL!)	[13:55]
kyl	he wouldn't have thought to use those because they are not overtly weapons	[13:55]
dbtid	kusuriya: i was getting to that kyl: oh, yeah. he played football so he was too stupid to think of those other things	[13:55]
kyl	correct	[13:55]
trafficone	well, football does cause brain damage	[13:55]
kyl	plus, good citizens don't think of ordinary household items as weapons	[13:55]
kusuriya	kyl: ifs funny you say that because boxers are usually required to register their hands as lethal weapons but most are too dumb to realize it :)	[13:56]
dbtid	kyl: we could maybe figure out how to put all the bad citizens in one place, maybe? keep them there away from all the good citizens? kyl: what do you think?	[13:56]
kyl	dbtid: like a summer camp	[13:56]
trafficone	how does one register something as a lethal weapon?	[13:56]
kyl	that lasts all year?	[13:56]
dbtid	kyl: exactly	[13:56]
kusuriya	trafficone: just like you register a gun	[13:57]
kyl	i bet they'll find high levels of marijuhana in his blood	[13:57]
dbtid	i bet they find high levels of twinkies in his blood	[13:57]
kusuriya	id like to register my cock as a leathal weapon	[13:57]
benDos	QBIT http://youtu.be/mFDiiSqGB7M !!!!!	[13:57]
dbtid	he was rich so he probably bought out all of them from the store before any of the poor people could	[13:57]
BryceBot	YouTube Education: "Community Ecology II: Predators - Crash Course Ecology #5" by crashcourse (10m 23s), 302 views, 98 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-12-04T21:11:50.000Z.	[13:57]
kyl	kusuriya: because people die from laughing when you pull it out?	[13:57]
benDos	twss	[13:58]
mcchunkie	Added funny: "kusuriya: because people die from laughing when you pull it out?"	[13:58]
kusuriya	kyl: exactly	[13:58]
lteo	kyl: wrong.. it's so "leathal" that it kills on sight	[13:58]
trafficone	"another girl's life, tragically cut short by a hilariously tiny penis... real shame" "when will the littledicks learn?"	[13:59]
qbit	benDos: o/	[14:00]
kyl	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1XpoVkZSqU&playnext=1&list=PLEA160EADAD74C535&feature=results_video	[14:00]
BryceBot	YouTube Comedy: "County Sheriff: Pilot - 1x1" by ryanthewebber (12m 9s), 267 views. Uploaded 2012-03-04T23:52:59.000Z.	[14:00]
qbit	one of my fav predations .. is the wasp that makes ants go really really high on trees.. the other is the wasp that zombifies spiders	[14:04]
kusuriya	lets see if devious can save my ass again with testing :D	[14:08]
qbit	qbit hits file -> save	[14:10]
kyl	:o	[14:11]
kusuriya	hmm does devious let normal users check mailq well looks like it kind of does hey brycec verizon has devio.us blacklisted	[14:12]
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brycec	kusuriya: that's cool (We've jumped through their hoops before. Unfortunately, apparently our members are idiots and still send spam)	[14:21]
kusuriya	yeah doesnt suprise me just combing through the mail queue making sure my mail went out	[14:24]
brycec	yeah I know where you saw it :P	[14:24]
kusuriya	Microsoft's mail servers are not delivering external mail :D	[14:24]
brycec	kusuriya: I'll PM you the maillog	[14:25]
kusuriya	brycec: thanks	[14:25]
kyl	jrick: qbit: itunes is actually usable under os x	[14:26]
qbit	what's an os x?	[14:26]
kyl	isn't slow and shitty qbit: says the guy using windows 8 brah	[14:26]
lteo	kyl: new or old itunes?	[14:26]
kusuriya	kyl: thats not a surpise	[14:26]
kyl	either	[14:26]
kusuriya	if i had a mac id prolly use itunes TBQH	[14:26]
kyl	itunes 9, 10, and 11 weren't bad but the new interface seems to be anti-ipod i can see jsut a giant list of songs on it no column browser	[14:26]
benDos	Is itune's ui still terrible for 13k+ songs?	[14:27]
kyl	no	[14:27]
benDos	It used to lag and chew on my cpu when scrolling	[14:27]
kyl	i have more than that on my ipod	[14:27]
benDos	I have a lot of flac And a 30gb ipod Soo I have way less than that on my ipod	[14:28]
kyl	i convert flac->aac for the mac and i don't have that much lossless	[14:28]
benDos	I haven't felt like converting all my flacs to mp3 for the ipod tbh All (+/-) of my music is rips bandcamp also lets you buy flac ++	[14:28]
kyl	when i rip music, i do it on teh mac	[14:29]
benDos	I may have mentioned before, I only have linux desktops/laptops And one desktop windows 7 refuses to run on, but apparently i need to try again and zero the entire disk Cause windows 7 cares that the disk it is installed onto may have some weird bits in unallocated space :/	[14:29]
qbit	bandcamp	[14:30]
benDos	yesh?	[14:30]
trafficone	will AWS kill a process on your server if it takes up too much processing power? I was under the impression it just didn't have very many cycles to give	[14:30]
benDos	They are awesome	[14:30]
qbit	i need a way to put music on my spankinnewfreeipod	[14:30]
benDos	I <3<3<3 bandcamp	[14:30]
qbit	without itunes because stabieeff itunesz	[14:30]
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benDos	qbit, rockbox and it's normal usb drive access	[14:31]
qbit	nosir	[14:31]
benDos	Yessir	[14:31]
qbit	it's the ipod touch nano	[14:31]
brycec	trafficone: I've never seen that happen, and I don't think they have the ability to kill a process. However, I've seen OOM-killer many a time.	[14:31]
benDos	Oh.	[14:31]
qbit	which isn't rockboxsupported	[14:31]
benDos	Can you put netbsd on it?	[14:31]
brycec	trafficone: (see dmesg for logs of "oh god I'm out of memory, KILL KILL KILL")	[14:31]
qbit	qbit installs clementine	[14:31]
kyl	install banshee or whatever ubuntu's default player is	[14:31]
benDos	isn't that Qt dependent?	[14:32]
kyl	kyl shrugs	[14:32]
qbit	is	[14:32]
kusuriya	kusuriya installs banshee because fuck you all you mono haters	[14:32]
qbit	<3 mono now that keepass works on openbsd	[14:32]
benDos	Tbh http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/ Rhythmbox is lovely tbh	[14:32]
qbit	tbhtbh srstbh ehhem qbit makes more coffee	[14:33]
benDos	I only stopped using it when it did funny things on remote storage that vlc happily buffers like a good program	[14:33]
mcchunkie	New sets for amd64! New sets for i386!	[14:33]
benDos	mcchunkie: toogle e	[14:33]
qbit	aw	[14:33]
benDos	Goosebumps.	[14:34]
qbit	best.. book series... ever	[14:35]
brycec	@lod	[14:35]
BryceBot	ಠ_ಠ	[14:35]
kusuriya	@tableflip	[14:36]
BryceBot	(╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻	[14:36]
mcchunkie	┬──┬ ¯_(ツ)	[14:36]
brycec	wow mcchunkie, a bit slow there...	[14:36]
kusuriya	because FUCK THIS SHIT	[14:36]
brycec	(4 seconds on my end)	[14:36]
kyl	is rhythmbox that one that comes with ubuntu?	[14:36]
qbit	brycec: she waits for a random amount of time	[14:36]
kyl	because whatever taht one is sucks pretty bad	[14:36]
brycec	qbit: oh that's new, nice, much better.	[14:36]
kusuriya	tonight dovecot+postfix to my server :D	[14:36]
benDos	kyl, i don't think so i think you were right with banshee for that	[14:36]
brycec	For everyone with a .edu email and Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace	[14:37]
qbit	clementine is pnice	[14:37]
kusuriya	i thought it was rythm box because ubuntu was trying to remove the mono deps	[14:37]
qbit	it is a fork of amarok before they went all 2.0	[14:37]
benDos	amarok was good for a while too	[14:37]
kusuriya	banshee is awesome you just have to deal with mono if youre not on windows and GTK#	[14:37]
qbit	whoa clementine has google drive / sound cloud integration	[14:38]
kusuriya	which is a hot nightmare	[14:38]
benDos	Mono and GTK?	[14:38]
qbit	holy shit - and spotify	[14:38]
benDos	That seems redundant?	[14:38]
kusuriya	benDos: Mono does not come with a UI TK in !windows	[14:38]
benDos	Or does mono just use gtk to emul?	[14:38]
trafficone	holy shitbananas, all the packages I need to build are already built and in the repos	[14:38]
benDos	ohh ok	[14:38]
kusuriya	it integrates with GTK#	[14:38]
qbit	oh man	[14:39]
benDos	i thought it did tbh	[14:39]
qbit	and grooveshark	[14:39]
benDos	but i never use it so yeah	[14:39]
kusuriya	which emulates GDI and GDI+ for windows stuff	[14:39]
benDos	they do everything else :p	[14:39]
brycec	goddamn I'm now at 18.4GB of Dropbox space	[14:39]
qbit	ha awesome clementine can play spotify music!	[14:40]
benDos	brycec why dropbox?	[14:40]
brycec	because?	[14:40]
qbit	this bitch is getting ported	[14:40]
benDos	Some stuff you prefer not on devious or your other servers if you have any idk? Idk I've had no need for dropbox since scp? benDos also has no smartphone that only has apps, instead of rpm or debs :/	[14:40]
brycec	benDos: I've had Dropbox for years... And there's no replacing its auto-sync between machines. Dropbox isn't for everyone, but it has its uses.	[14:41]
benDos	benDos shrugs Ok	[14:41]
qbit	but no pandora	[14:41]
kyl	ERBERNTER ERN	[14:42]
brycec	qbit: no pithos?	[14:42]
qbit	don't see it anywhere or know what it is	[14:42]
brycec	qbit: http://kevinmehall.net/p/pithos/ I think it's python+gtk	[14:42]
benDos	kusuriya, trafficone i'll be able to find good greek food right?	[14:42]
brycec	so it is https://github.com/kevinmehall/pithos	[14:42]
kusuriya	benDos: not sure ive never looked for greek	[14:43]
benDos	Huh, ok	[14:43]
kusuriya	i hear there are some places downtown	[14:43]
qbit	oh nice jesus it does podcasts too	[14:43]
benDos	vlc does podcasts bro emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need. I don't think emacs can play mkv's with 2d accel?	[14:43]
kusuriya	.addtroll emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need.	[14:44]
lazylopez_	emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need.: was added	[14:44]
benDos	http://www.gnu.org/software/emms/... Audio support : MP3, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC Video support : MPEG, WMV, MOV, AVI, OGM, MKV, etc... !!!!! Wtf. Nooo	[14:45]
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trafficone	benDos: if it's good gyros you want, Mr. Gyros is pretty good. If you want srs fancy greek, I can't speak past that.	[14:47]
brycec	I want gyros now...	[14:48]
trafficone	OH SHIT WAIT I REMEMBER THIS GREAT GREEK PLACE	[14:48]
kusuriya	italian i get do tulios is bitching	[14:48]
benDos	Tbh i first wanted a gyro something bad	[14:48]
kusuriya	but gyro never had em	[14:48]
benDos	but then i remembered all the stuff i used to get at small greek place i used to go to	[14:49]
trafficone	there's Pete's Eggnest, which is really good for greek + breakfast grub	[14:49]
benDos	and had to point to the menu :/ sweet	[14:49]
kyl	how about some spanakopita	[14:49]
trafficone	and there's also Taki's Mad Greek	[14:49]
benDos	Guys Guy	[14:49]
kusuriya	piroshki is an awesome food though	[14:49]
benDos	Don't drop it ok emacs is a media player seriously	[14:49]
kyl	i know	[14:49]
benDos	Fuck man.	[14:49]
kyl	and irc client and email	[14:49]
kusuriya	benDos: EMACS is an OS	[14:49]
trafficone	kusuriya: true dat, I had some piroshky today	[14:49]
benDos	See I knew emacs was an os	[14:49]
trafficone	emacs is a game engine	[14:49]
benDos	But an os that ships with more features than windows?	[14:50]
kyl	emacs is not an os	[14:50]
kusuriya	emacs is also a webbrowser	[14:50]
kyl	emacs is a virtual machine for lisp	[14:50]
benDos	not clisp? or guile?	[14:50]
kyl	?	[14:50]
kusuriya	im tempted to try emacs as an IRC client	[14:50]
kyl	the fuck do any of those have to do with this? kusuriya: erc	[14:50]
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kyl	M-X erc	[14:50]
benDos	i thought emacs used clisp and was eventually maybe moving to guile for the sake for rms	[14:50]
kyl	...	[14:51]
benDos	benDos uses emacs 0s per year	[14:51]
trafficone	@rms	[14:51]
BryceBot	Richard Stallman says: Restricting copying is not the only basis for business in software. It is the most common basis because it brings in the most money. If it were prohibited, or rejected by the customer, software business would move to other bases of organization which are now used less often. There are always numerous ways to... <it just rambles on>	[14:51]
kyl	i use it fairly often	[14:51]
trafficone	@log_search emacs	[14:51]
BryceBot	640 results found. Here's one at random: Feb 08, 2012 10:32:32 <brycec > Chunkhost -> [Peer1 -> tinet -> seabone] -> emacsdaddy	[14:51]
trafficone	I wish I could tell python that it's running in a headless environment, so it doesn't get sad when it can't run graphics stuff	[14:52]
kyl	trafficone: ?	[14:53]
benDos	Can you tell it to ignore a certain class of errors and filter some output to /dev/null?	[14:53]
trafficone	kyl: for example, this one module is testing matplotlib on a headless server	[14:53]
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qbit	my god - clementine has projectm in it ,3	[14:54]
benDos	trafficone, can you over right what lib it is looking for before it gets loaded and lie to it? s/right/write	[14:55]
lazylopez_	trafficone, can you over write what lib it is looking for before it gets loaded and lie to it?	[14:55]
brycec	Python is well aware that it's headless... Just a matter of some modules that don't care and try and do crap (like matplotlib, I guess)	[14:55]
benDos	Right, so python lets you do loooots of introspection	[14:56]
trafficone	^	[14:56]
benDos	when it loads that library go in there muck around with some shit and lie to it	[14:56]
trafficone	haha	[14:56]
kyl	that is one nice thing about python ipython is the most compelling reason to use python	[14:56]
trafficone	at least it doesn't test on load, so it'll just work	[14:56]
benDos	you could even trace or trap the class load to filter out stuff i imagine DID YOU FILE A BUG REPORT?	[14:57]
kyl	python won't, however, let you monkey patch builtins	[14:58]
mcchunkie	I am a respectable lady! I will not take this lying down!	[14:58]
benDos	rewriting your lexer and parser on the fly for an interrupted languages seems pretty painful even for python to force on it's implementations ruby probably lets you do stuff like that	[14:58]
lazylopez_	Ruby syntax looks like someone pulled off all the symbols from their keyboard, inserted them into a shotgun and shot them into a $20 hooker that had been dead for 3 days..	[14:58]
brycec	*its	[14:58]
qbit	https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/ whoa	[15:00]
trafficone	benDos: IDK who I'd even file the bug report with, there are so many modules used by this module it's just silly once it says "requires numpy and scipy" I assume that it's maintained by a league of wizards	[15:00]
BryceBot	YER A WIZARD trafficone	[15:01]
trafficone	BryceBot: not so loud, do you want Voldermort to hear?	[15:01]
benDos	hah	[15:02]
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mcchunkie	New packages for loongson!	[15:33]
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qbit	oh hai zentrification	[16:22]
AmberJ_	.troll	[16:24]
lazylopez_	you just cant chew on a pig pancreas	[16:24]
kyl	.troll \| s/^/AmberJ_: / \| s/$/ --qbit/	[16:25]
lazylopez_	AmberJ_: mcchunkie's an asshole, because it's written in node.js --qbit	[16:25]
kyl	^ proof	[16:25]
qbit	haha	[16:25]
kyl	o/	[16:25]
qbit	o i don't even know how that happened lazylopez_ is a person	[16:25]
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qbit	committin like a bawss! qbit waits for things to break	[17:09]
dbtid	heh optimist	[17:11]
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benDos	Are ecommerce sites required to track how many people open up the page with their linked terms and conditions you have to agree to?	[18:24]
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benDos	Soo	[18:54]
zenmower	zenmower is taking his bosses job boss is leaving zenmower should get more money	[18:57]
qbit	nice o/ upgradecomplete	[18:59]
benDos	Oh congrats	[18:59]
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zenmower	yeah now i have to find somebody to do my job	[19:20]
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AmberJ__	zenmower: Hire me! kthxbye! :P Congrats zenmower	[19:31]
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AmberJ_	Quick question: nginx OR lighttpd? My requirements: as lightweight as possible. I need to host only few static html files!	[19:55]
zenmower	nginx	[19:56]
AmberJ_	Ok thanks!	[19:59]
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zenmower	probably you should do lighthttpd i just no nginx so i would use it	[20:06]
kyl	AmberJ_: srvwd :o	[20:07]
zenmower	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWl5peI8HY	[20:07]
BryceBot	YouTube Music: "Hayseed Dixie - Bohemian Rhapsody video (Official)" by johannespud (3m 41s), 1,239,115 views, 5,654 likes and 170 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-21T16:14:38.000Z.	[20:07]
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lteo	thttpd ;)	[20:22]
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zenmower	use kyl's go server	[20:34]
brycec	lol, required by whom exactly? Did the Internet suddenly gain a law enforcement entity? 19:24:10 <+benDos> Are ecommerce sites required to track how many people open up the page with their linked terms and conditions you have to agree to? Also nginx is now in base OpenBSD, so +1 for nginx Then again, I <3 lighttpd brycec has a new chair, woo	[20:39]
zenmower	zenmower has a new jerb woo i want to get a house i can shoot out of the back door a lot	[20:40]
qbit	thttpd++	[20:46]
brycec	congrats, btw, zenmower	[20:48]
zenmower	thanks i didn't really do anything boss decided to move on kind of sucks i am the only dev so imma have to find somebody	[20:51]
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sharvey	trafficone: do the twins get on here at all?	[22:18]
kyl	the twins sounds ominous	[22:18]
sharvey	yes one is evil one is good though neither of them have goatees...	[22:18]
kyl	of course not that's passé and unacceptable for undercover evil twins	[22:21]
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brycec	They've both tried mustaches... didn'g look good sharvey: On average, once every 2 years or so :P sharvey: In fact I barely ever hear or see either of them :/ For being such tech-y people, they're oddly uncommunicative - no facebook, no G+, no IRC... Oh and they never seem to have their phone "Why don't you guys include us more." Well we do, we text and call you, but you don't answer :P @seen FrozenDice	[22:39]
BryceBot	brycec, I last saw frozendice 118 days 7 hours 33 min 35 sec ago (Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:11:10 -0700) quitting: Ping timeout: 248 seconds.	[22:44]
brycec	sharvey: ^	[22:44]
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