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dxtrohai guys [03:43]
zod000hai dxtr [03:44]
dxtrWhat's up? [03:45]
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zod000sorry, going through nagios logs
not sure why i didnt see these in the middle of the night
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mcchunkieNew packages for i386! [04:33]
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dxtrHmm
So.. I'm trying tinc
And it's friggin awesome
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benDosai
Hai*
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dxtrFuck yea
I can access my work computer from home seamlessly. And the opposite
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benDosssh? [05:15]
kusuriyawoo [05:16]
dxtrbenDos: tinc
I said seamlessly. Like I can ping it from my computers at home without having to worry about sshing, opening openvpn or anything
[05:16]
benDosNeat :) [05:17]
dxtrtinc was easy as fuck to set up [05:18]
kusuriyalooks interesting
too bad i have to use windows at work
[05:20]
dxtrHaha [05:21]
kusuriya:( [05:21]
dxtrAt my job the boss was like "Do you HAVE to use Windows!?" and I was like "I never said I wanted to use Windows in the first place"
"Awesome! Then we won't have to buy that for you"
[05:21]
kusuriyainstead they overspent on a mac :P [05:22]
dxtrNah
There were like "Go buy a computer!"
So I picked up some stuff and built it
And I'm running Linux
[05:23]
benDosdid you buy yourself a cray? [05:24]
kusuriyalenovo needs a 14" notebook with a quad core processor
:(
[05:25]
dxtrbenDos: Cray? [05:25]
kusuriyadxtr: the origonal multi core processor super computer [05:25]
benDoscray.com [05:25]
kusuriya@wiki cray computer [05:25]
BryceBotCray :: Cray Inc. is an American supercomputer manufacturer based in Seattle, Washington. The company's predecessor, Cray Research, Inc. (CRI), was founded in 1972 by computer designer Seymour Cray. Seymour Cray went on to form the spin-off Cray Computer Corporation (CCC), in 1989, which went bankrupt in 1995, while Cray Research was bought by SGI the next year. Cray Inc. was formed in... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray [05:25]
dxtrOh, right [05:25]
benDosThey're based in Seattle!
They should hire me.
[05:25]
kusuriyabenDos: i know id love to work at cray
Or EMC
but EMC Consulting keeps jerking me around
[05:26]
dxtrfap fap [05:26]
kusuriyanot the good kind of jerk [05:26]
benDoskusuriya, Cray has an IT anaylist pos open in seattle [05:27]
kusuriyabenDos: hmm
i try to avoid anaylist positions though
that usually means helpdesk
[05:27]
benDosIt is helpdesk
only pos on their site in seattle
[05:27]
kusuriyayeah
its help desk
im cool :)
HellDesk usually sucks and doesnt pay well
[05:28]
benDosHah yeeeaaahh
But maybe you'd be working closer to me
And we can become dim sum buddies.
[05:30]
kusuriyameh im sure i could find better opprotunities downtown :)
what i need to do is put my personal company down on my resume and cram all my linux stuff in there so I have linux admin experience and can go to admin linux systems
[05:31]
benDosSounds good [05:33]
kusuriyabut i always get warey of doing that because then they are like "orly you did all this yourself" [05:33]
mcchunkieNew packages for macppc! [05:33]
benDoskusuriya, i try to encourage them to ask me about stuff [05:34]
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benDosin interviews i do best when they are just asking me about problems or things i've done [05:34]
dxtrI just masturbate [05:35]
kusuriyaI try not to honestly because I am a very poor interview i cant really explain my self well [05:35]
benDosAwe :/ [05:36]
kusuriyayeah I just need more prof experience honestly with linux [05:37]
benDosWell dovecot is super sexy
I'd be ok admining dovecot more
[05:40]
kusuriyayeah i just cant find any dovecot admin positions :P [05:41]
benDosHehe yeeeah
postfix evim sendmail?
exim*
[05:41]
kusuriyaid be willing to write sendmail.CFs all day long to do linux mail admining honestly [05:41]
benDosHeh :)
I'm not too familiar with sendmail, just postfix really
<3 postdix
s/d/f/
[05:41]
lazylopez_<3 postfix [05:42]
kusuriyai know enough about sendmail.cf to know it sucks ass
but id be willing to deal with it
[05:42]
benDosI don't know remember what that is
main sendmial config right
?
[05:43]
kusuriyayep
its very nasty and picky too
[05:43]
benDosNoooo
I finish my coffee, and don't have cash to get more
Now i need to wait till i get to work for free coffee :<
[05:44]
dxtrWhat's the opposite of "-eq" in shell scripting
?
[05:46]
benDos-neq?
http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html
-ne
[05:46]
dxtroh right [05:47]
kusuriyathats what i think ill do
after i rebuild my savings here in january ill go get my RHCE
[05:47]
benDosIs a RHCE really worth the grand+ for all the certs? [05:48]
kusuriyaas an admin it is
redhat/centOS is really heavily used
[05:48]
benDosI've done a bunch of the pretests they were super easy mode but sometimes you want you to X, which has multiple ways to do it [05:49]
kusuriyai also have been meaning to get my LPI certs [05:49]
benDosand they only ask for one, if you know others 0 points [05:49]
kusuriyameh [05:49]
benDosSo like "make sure no one can write to a file""
At least 3 ways to do it
[05:49]
kusuriyawhy not beable to say im a RHCE :) [05:49]
benDosThey only accept one [05:49]
kusuriyayeah
its not an awesome test by any strech of the imagination but the beancounters eat it up
[05:49]
benDosHmm [05:50]
kusuriyayeah if youre going to cross over certs go a long way
like i would have got the 75k i was asking for if i had one of my exchange certs
would have got 80k if i had both
[05:50]
benDosI have pretty low interest in moving to sysadmin'ing tbh
Geez
[05:51]
dbtidjrick: did you figure it out? [05:51]
kusuriyaif i had both and my Microsoft Certified Expert id be in the low 200k's [05:52]
benDosthat'd be baller [05:52]
kusuriyabut the MCE is really hard to get [05:52]
benDosIt really seems like i ought to be making more than i'll be making after a year or two
for seattle anyway
[05:52]
kusuriyayou have to get your lower certs (there are 4 of them) then have 6 years int he industry [05:53]
benDosjebus [05:53]
kusuriyaand have written 3 case studies [05:53]
benDoshah oh microsoft [05:53]
kusuriyaand then you must submit a case study for review by the exchange team [05:53]
benDoswhy would anyone do an IT undergrad instead of some cert like that [05:53]
kusuriyaand you wait to be invited to the test
MCE is invite only at the very end
[05:53]
benDosMooooaaarrrr coffffeeee </zombievoice> [05:54]
kusuriyabenDos: its kidna like getting your PHD
you have to do a lot of work for it
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qbithalla [06:07]
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qbityay coffee!
qbit makes some
[06:07]
benDosHay
Yeah i'm about to go grab some from work then go to the library to do some math hw!
[06:07]
dbtidhi qbit [06:07]
benDosawwee yeeaah [06:07]
qbitsup dbtid o/ [06:08]
benDosdbtid, i wonder if jrick divided by zero... [06:08]
qbitha [06:08]
dbtidnot much
you?
[06:10]
qbitcoffeemakin [06:10]
benDosqbit, you roasting some beats now?
cast iron pan on an open fire?
beans...
Drop beats sip'n beans yo.
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dbtidme too shortly [06:12]
qbitbenDos: haven't tried again yet
need to get a popcorn roaster
[06:12]
benDosHeh :p [06:12]
qbiter
popper
[06:12]
benDosWhatever i know what you meant [06:12]
jrickyeah that problem is still unsolved [06:12]
benDoswut.
My suggestion didn't work?
[06:12]
jrickcouldn't get it
me and my whole team (5 people total) spent forever working on it
[06:14]
benDosOohkay :/
I'll play around with it again when i get to work in a few hours
I really thought that was how you did it..
benDos is pretty shit at math though
oh done with this class bbiab
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qbitjrick: have you looked into cases for the n4 yet ?
s/ yet //
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lazylopez_jrick: have you looked into cases for the n4? [06:18]
jricknope
don't need one
[06:18]
qbitkew
i noticed a micro scratch on the screen.. totally paranoid now
[06:18]
jrickfront? that sucks [06:21]
qbitheh.. i cna't find it now
so meh
[06:21]
kusuriyascore got webshell running [06:27]
qbit23ll
er
well
^ should be its name :D
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benDosbackish [06:45]
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benDosjrick, I ran it by one of my more mathematically inclined friends [06:45]
jrick"abandon all hope, ye who enter here"? [06:46]
benDosThe method i suggested works on a plane but with the actual positions of R, A, and C unknown off the top of their head they didn't know if it still worked
wb benDossBot
[06:46]
benDossBotThanks benDos [06:46]
jrickwe know the positions of A B and C
and the distance between them
[06:46]
benDosYou told me you knew A B and C were on a line
and AB and BC were both distance D
[06:47]
jrickso those are our beacons and our robot is somewhere one one side of that line, and we need to know where the robot is with respect to those beacons [06:47]
benDosRight ok [06:47]
jrickand we determine where to put the beacons [06:47]
benDosThe beacons need to be on a line, and not surrounding R? [06:48]
jrickhm you said drawing a straight line down from R to line AB or BC (whichever) and making a right triangle? [06:48]
benDosYup [06:48]
jrickthey don't need to be on a line but that's what we thought would be the easiest to solve the problem
we can put those literally anywhere
[06:49]
benDosOh..
I then believe putting them 120 degrees apart around the area would be easier
[06:49]
jricklet me sketch that out [06:49]
benDosWay way easier imo
equilateral triangle ABC, within ABC in the point R
You have the angle ARB, BRC, AND CRA
[06:50]
lteoi want to equilateralize your triangle at an angle in the point R, if you know what i mean [06:51]
jrickok I see, now to try the math [06:51]
benDoslteo, you have a phd you should up in here solving jrick's problems
not mocking them
[06:52]
qbitnono.. stick with mocking [06:52]
benDoss/k/ky [06:52]
lazylopez_nono.. sticky with mockying [06:52]
qbityou have a phd.. time for others to suffer to get what you have [06:52]
benDos:p [06:52]
jricka phd is a license to say silly stuff [06:53]
lteo^
lteo say, "silly stuff"
benDos: a phd means i'm damaged beyond repair, so i'm useless now
[06:53]
benDosYour adviser drained you of all intellectual capitol?
"I'll be needing you to put in at least like 75 hours this week, it's really important you finish my paper for me by like next thursday" - Every PhD Adviser Ever
[06:54]
lteopretty much yeah. you do all the hard work, they add their name at the end
also there's so much bullcrap being published that have no practical value
[06:55]
benDosIf you're lucky, they get bored of you and want a newer bigger titted candidate within 5 years so they give you the phd and kick your ass out [06:55]
lteoas long as they give you your phd before kicking your ass out, you're fine [06:56]
benDosI feel so bad for my friend getting his phd in germany [06:57]
mcchunkiethat's what she said! [06:57]
benDosmcchunkie: no [06:57]
mcchunkieSorry: "I feel so bad for my friend getting his phd in germany" [06:57]
benDosI mean i get that they pay him
But not like a real salary
[06:57]
lteooh dude yes that's the other thing [06:57]
benDosYou are still treated like a student,except you teach classes ghostwrite papers and books for your advisor, for like over a decade [06:57]
lteofor years my income was barely above federal poverty line [06:58]
benDoslteo, but you totally get tax breaks for being a full time student
so after tax sometimes you're ever above the poverty line
even*
[06:58]
lteoi dunno about that brah.
anyway meeting
[07:00]
benDosSo it's like 60F today
And i want to bbq something fierce
jrick, what's the word?
[07:04]
jricksorry I've been discussing some xombrero stuff with conformal peeps
but I don't know how arranging them this way help
s
hm
[07:08]
benDosjrick, you have an angle from each A B and C to your R inside of triangle ABC [07:09]
jrickyes [07:10]
benDosYou take lines from A B and C at the angle you get into the tringle [07:10]
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benDoswhere they intersect is where your R is [07:10]
pirokoWe are still talking about this. lol [07:13]
benDosMath is hard bro [07:13]
mcchunkieaw, where's the pun in that? [07:13]
benDosmcchunkie: no [07:13]
mcchunkieSorry: "Math is hard bro" [07:13]
pirokoHEY GUYS [07:16]
benDosHai? [07:16]
pirokoKe$ha's warrior album is up on spotify now. http://open.spotify.com/album/0gT5HL6RnvHBxJ2gY7lidR
You're welcome
[07:16]
qbitha [07:17]
benDosbenDos is listening to La Coka Nostra [07:18]
pirokoYou think I'm kidding, yet I'm rocking out to it for the 8th time this week right now [07:18]
qbitoh no - i belive you :P [07:19]
pirokohaha good [07:19]
benDosWhatever this is some hardcore metal and hip hop.
And free coffee from work
good shit
[07:19]
qbitqbit has never had good free coffee [07:19]
piroko^^ [07:19]
benDosFucking snobs
It's free
Know what though
I am still in college
[07:19]
qbitbut i am a coffeeist [07:19]
benDosMaybe my taste buds for free things will mature after i graduate in a few months [07:19]
qbitya.. being a coffeeist in college makes you a hipster [07:19]
benDosThis is no idea what type of coffee with no name brand creamer
but the price is right
and it's hot and has caffeine
qbit, do you also <3 Ill Bill (rapper)?
[07:21]
pirokodeliciousness of food = quality of food / cost of food [07:27]
benDoss/d/d+0.00000000000000000001 [07:27]
lazylopez_d+0.00000000000000000001eliciousness of food+0.00000000000000000001 = quality of food+0.00000000000000000001 / cost of food+0.00000000000000000001 [07:27]
benDosOh.
I wanted d$
Aaanyway
Ohh kusuriya orca card works on sound transit!!! =D
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benDosqbit, http://youtu.be/Dicn1qsVKwU [07:32]
BryceBotYouTube Music: "La Coka Nostra - Cousin of Death [Director's Cut]" by LaCokaNostra (4m 51s), 550,616 views, 2,854 likes and 34 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-01T20:42:04.000Z. [07:32]
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benDosthough some random actor in the video none of the dudes from LCN [07:32]
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benDosMan i should bring my studio headphones to work
These dinky little ear buds have a cruddy woofer
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benDosHoly shit guys, wolfram alpha does geometry too! [07:38]
snknice
snk gets out his sysadmin shotgub
s/gub/gun
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lazylopez_lazylopez_ gets out his sysadmin shotgun [07:42]
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snksomone is trying to setup a hadoop cluster using our network storage as a backend
now I have to read enough about hadoop to tell them that it's a terrible idea
[07:43]
benDosThat doesn't sound totally insane? [07:45]
AmberJ_Damn, Amazon Prime Student works only for students of USA universities :( [07:49]
snkbenDos: well, they want to put it on our AFS storage
which, is terribly slow for computational tasks
and has tons of ACLs that will most certainly not be happy with a hadoop master node trying to all the reads and writes
[07:50]
pirokowew http://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/
That top post is my wife
[07:50]
snklol [07:51]
pirokoShe didn't say it
It was just on her feed
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benDossnk, doesn't afs do lots of local caching? [07:53]
sharveyjesus
my university built a brain
and I mostly had no idea
[07:56]
benDossharvey, that IBM cat brain? [07:56]
sharveythen they did an ama, which I also was not aware of
benDos: no, spaun
[07:56]
qbit:D
even i knew about that!
[07:56]
benDosDid not.
That was a /me *
[07:56]
sharveybenDos: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/147gqm/we_are_the_computational_neuroscientists_behind/
I know *two* people on that team
two
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qbitlol [07:57]
sharveyjesus christ I've been living under a rock [07:57]
benDosHeh sweet
neural nets are fun :)
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dxtrsvn <73 [07:58]
snkbenDos: "lots" of local caching is whatever the size of the local machine's /var/cache/openafs partition is [07:58]
dxtr</3 [07:58]
snkusually about 3GBs in our environment
the default afs config sets a 512MB cache
in any case
ours is designed for document/code storage
not storage for scalable computation
[07:58]
benDosHeh
benDos is overly cynical about anything hadoop related
[07:59]
brycecfuckyeah AFS
LMAO 08:43:14 <+snk> somone is trying to setup a hadoop cluster using our network storage as a backend
snk: fwiw every Hadoop setup I've seen has used directly-attached storage, sometimes even RAID10. Keeps it fast, doesn't use network resources (which are already busy transporting the workload around), and did I mention it's fast?
Those are the bullet points you could pass along. "I don't know much about Hadoop, but..."
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benDosI AM NOT looking forward to having to use hadoop for work next year :/ [08:03]
brycecMy favourite part is to say the name. hadOOP [08:04]
benDosIT's just so fucking java-y in the setup [08:04]
brycecbut benDos <3 Java... [08:05]
benDosAs a runtime sure
People shipping java code seem to distribute their project in the worst ways imaginable
[08:05]
brycecScumbag Waterloo... I blame sharvey for this. three names, FOUR PEOPLE http://imgur.com/TUo0x
unless "Terry Xuan" is actually "Terry" and "Xuan"...
[08:06]
snkbrycec: so, is the locally attached storage local storage on ALL the nodes? [08:07]
sharveybenDos: there's 4 names [08:07]
brycecthat could be [08:07]
sharveyterry and xuan
I know xuan and trevor
[08:07]
snkor is it only on the master node, and shared to the slave nodes? [08:07]
brycecsnk: yes, every node gets a $cheapdrive or two [08:07]
snkgotcha
i _though_ that was the point of hadoop
*thought
[08:07]
qbitna [08:07]
bryceceach node's workload gets pulled locally, molested, and given back to the master. [08:07]
qbitit's point is to make benDos rage [08:07]
snkwas 32345 cheap servers with cheap disks == hadoop cluster [08:08]
kylmoin [08:08]
qbithai kyl [08:08]
brycecso that workload sits locally and the fast storage means it can store/fetch pieces of it quickly. Just imagine the congestion if all the nodes were slamming a SAN
lol sharvey
[08:08]
dbtidhello kyl [08:09]
brycecwell this pic made it look like they were being held hostage :P http://imgur.com/mEMue (for ransom) [08:09]
sharveyhahahahaha
I'll forward that to them
I see trevor on thursday, due to unrelated meeting
[08:09]
brycecha [08:10]
AmberJ_Cool, I can try free 1 month trial of Amazon Prime! [08:10]
brycecnow then, to start my heavy metal band... SLAM THE SAN [08:10]
sharveyhahahaha [08:10]
AmberJ_+for free [08:10]
sharveybrycec: is it made of heavy metals? [08:10]
AmberJ_AmberJ_ is purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 [08:11]
brycecsharvey: heavy metals are an integral component, yes [08:11]
dxtrMan..
Since June I've transferred 2TB of data :/
[08:11]
brycecdamn dxtr you be slackin' [08:11]
dxtrOh yeah
But I've also received around 2TB
[08:11]
brycecI've downloaded 562,271MB of data since Dec 1. [08:12]
benDosJebus. [08:13]
brycecThough to be fair, I'm not sure how... I'm just going by what pfSense tells me [08:13]
benDosI'm at like 10's of gigs / month :x
Ohhh
[08:13]
brycecBut seriously, I do pull hundreds of GB/mo [08:13]
qbit^ [08:13]
kylgoddamn pirate
s
[08:13]
brycecYarrrr [08:13]
qbitqbit checks hsi arp cactus
yearly 1 day average is 1.46 tb
[08:15]
AmberJ_Does anyone owns a Galaxy Note 10.1 here? [08:16]
benDosSo seriously, at what point does someone who has never been academically dishonest just pay someone to take a class for them
Cause if I fail calculus again I do not foresee having the patience to fail it again
[08:16]
brycecaww I have some catching up to do, I'm only at 17.81GB for the year with ARP (then again, I've only had an ARP since October) [08:16]
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dxtrbrycec: Don't you guys have bandwidth caps over there? :P [08:19]
brycecdxtr: many residential ISP's do nowadays
Does Bryce? NOPE! :P
[08:19]
benDosI keep reading that time warner has caps
but whenever i call them or sign in, i can't find anything like that for m
for me*
[08:20]
dxtrbrycec: And it costs you a small fortune? :P [08:21]
brycecSweet - in the last 4 weeks, I've downloaded ~490GB (more accurately counted)
dxtr: $100/mo on my res connection.
My business connection... well business connections just have no caps
[08:22]
dxtrlawl, $100 :/ [08:23]
brycec($95 if you want to be more accurate) [08:23]
dxtrAdd 10-20% and you'd get gigabit [08:23]
brycecI assure you, if I could add anything and get GbE, I would seriously consider it. [08:23]
qbitguys haiku is hte best os ever [08:24]
kylqbit: bro false [08:24]
brycecbrycec waits for kyl to chime in [08:24]
kylit is a good OS
but it is not the best
[08:24]
brycecoh damn beat me [08:24]
kyland trust me [08:24]
qbit:D [08:24]
kylI <3 haiku more than you [08:24]
qbiti don't thank so bro [08:24]
kyli do
do you have all the BeOS dev books?
[08:24]
bryceche also <3'd haike before you [08:24]
qbithow many compieputers do you have it on right now? [08:24]
kyl'cuz I do [08:24]
qbitkyl: indeed i do :O [08:24]
kyli have it on two VMs [08:24]
qbitbeos was the first os i ever purchased ! [08:25]
kylo/ [08:25]
qbito [08:25]
kyli still have the R3, R4, and R5 [08:25]
qbitqbit only has r5 [08:25]
kylif i ever find a bebox i will buy it, no question asked [08:26]
brycecFor those wondering whether DOCSIS 3 is worth it, I present my latency and packet loss between my router and my ISP's first-hop/router. The upgrade should be apparent. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-04_09-25-48.png [08:27]
benDosbrycec, i'm on docsis 3 [08:27]
qbitwhat is awesome about pueblo .. it has docsis 3 .. but springs doesn't
gofrigguure
[08:28]
bryceclawl qbit [08:28]
lteolteo is frigguuring it out [08:28]
brycecbrycec will make a better graph...
better graph https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-04_09-29-58.png
[08:28]
qbithttp://open.spotify.com/album/3iAhgPaqgnKT1Zw9Nueriz <---- naked lady album!!!! snk!! [08:30]
brycec(link IS nsfw) [08:31]
AmberJ_AmberJ_ clicks qbit's link desperately :P
.troll
[08:31]
lazylopez_is OpenBSD open source? [08:31]
qbithaha [08:31]
AmberJ_benDos, there's an amazing online course starting on Coursera in January!
at least the promo looks very interesting
s/promo/promo video for class
[08:33]
lazylopez_at least the promo video for class looks very interesting [08:33]
benDosAmberJ_, what class? [08:33]
lwhalenoh jesus H Christ
ninjapants: I want this for christmas - http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=303678&d=1354636382
[08:34]
benDosThat's purdy. [08:35]
AmberJ_benDos, https://www.coursera.org/course/calcsing [08:35]
benDosAmberJ_, that won't help
I need calc 2 that my college with accept
They do not accept credits from coursera :p
[08:35]
AmberJ_benDos, the instructor for this course the craziest book I had ever seen: http://www.math.upenn.edu/~ghrist/FLCT/
heh
[08:35]
kylbenDos: some advice [08:36]
snkqbit: share it to me on spotify brah [08:36]
kyldon't fail calc2 [08:36]
snkso that I don't have to click [08:36]
benDoskyl, dude I try every time
They teach methods of integration by hand, and THAT is what is on the final
[08:36]
qbitsent [08:37]
benDosI've done 30+ hours per week on calclus and my brain just does not remember how to do shit by hand in math that complicated [08:37]
snkmmm, nekkid ladies in my inbox [08:37]
kylso learn those methods of integration
and bpt do them by hand
[08:37]
AmberJ_benDos, Ok, they don't accept credits from coursera but you can watch online courses to understand the concepts and then pass your exams.
what kyl said^
[08:37]
benDosbpt? [08:38]
brycecBritish Petroleum Tycoon, duh [08:38]
benDosI do learn them, every time i take the course
But since I already know how to do it faster and more accurately online or by looking up formulas
My brain is all :"fuck you ben, i won't remember this method by hand even if you spend 50 hours doing problems for just that method of integration"
[08:38]
kylbe parepared to
well then, your brain is holding you back
[08:39]
qbithaha [08:40]
benDosThat's what i'm say'n. [08:40]
kyli suggest punishing it through the use of ethanol
heavy use thereof
[08:40]
benDosThat at this point, if i won't get the degree without that class [08:40]
lteobenDos: is there any crazy mnemonic thingy that you can memorize, that when you go into the exam, the first thing you do is do a brain dump of that mnemonic thing by writing it on the exam paper so you remember? [08:40]
benDosIt probably makes sense to pay someone to take it for me
lteo, na the class covers too much tbh
Idk :/
[08:40]
AmberJ_+1 lteo :D
I do this all the time
[08:41]
kylmaybe bendos just wasn't mean to get his degree [08:41]
benDoskyl, certainly seems that way [08:41]
kylhe shall forever be doomed to join our ranks [08:41]
benDosNo no
I'll just shift my efforts from actually learning calculus to cheating like a fucking boss
Cause i really want that mother fucking degree already.
[08:42]
kyli'll write a letter to the dean
alleging academic impropriety
[08:43]
AmberJ_that's the spirit benDos [08:43]
benDosI've met several professors i'm more versed in comp sci than
AmberJ_, this book is kind of hard to read :/
the font
[08:43]
lteobro, i met a professor who has a phd from uc berkeley and whose area is spam research. and he doesn't know how spam RBLs worked
i described it to him, and he was like, "oooohhh so that's how it works"
[08:44]
benDos:<
Point being if i don't get catch no one will ever give a shit
caught*
[08:44]
kylbenDos: math is hard, you should go shopping [08:44]
mcchunkietwss! [08:44]
benDoskyl, i'm actually better at math than most of my friends [08:45]
AmberJ_s/shopp/facebook [08:45]
benDosjust not with pen and paper [08:45]
lazylopez_kyl, i'm actually better at math than most of my friends [08:45]
benDosbenDos is a graph theory pro [08:45]
kylwell if you can't do it by hand, you're clearly not good at math
you're good at telling the computer how to math
[08:49]
benDosThat must be it.. [08:50]
lteomaybe get some tips from people who have passed the class? [08:52]
dbtidi didn't think calc 2 was "hard" -- just a whole lot of WORK.
the people who did the homework did well.
but perhaps calc 2 has changed
knowing all the major trig identities made a big difference
[08:53]
benDoslteo, the people i know who passed it barely passed and also took calc in hs
Man idk i'm doing all the homeworks, really it's just not something my brain remembers
[08:56]
AmberJ_, this textbook is rough [09:02]
brycecs/this/yourmom/ [09:04]
lazylopez_AmberJ_, yourmom textbook is rough [09:04]
benDosHeh <3 dovecot just got a log msg: Dec 04 12:03:04 imap: Error: Time just moved backwards by 1 seconds. I'll sleep now until we're back in present. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards [09:04]
dxtrFuck me for picking eco friendly computer
computers*
[09:06]
benDosWhat does that even mean? [09:06]
dxtrI want my living room to get warm, but they still send off a cool breeze when they're under heavy load [09:06]
benDosIsn't it still made of mega toxic plastics and heavy metals?
Oh :p
[09:06]
bryceclol dxtr [09:07]
benDosI can trade you my old desktop if you want, i never once turned the heat in my office at home last winter [09:07]
brycecI've got a nice warm server closet [09:07]
kusuriyadxtr: you need to get closer to the metal to generate heat [09:07]
brycecIt's literally 15F warmer than my office [09:07]
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zod000brycec: that's nuts [09:08]
dxtrkusuriya: Like licking the disks in the disks? [09:08]
zod00015F warmer and I'd be rediculously unformatable [09:08]
bryceczod000: it's awesome. Before, all that stuff was in my office [09:08]
zod000err uncomfortable [09:08]
bryceczod000: but now it's closed away in the closet [09:08]
benDoszod000, you were right the first time [09:08]
kusuriyadxtr: like node.js [09:08]
BryceBotBAREMETAL!!! [09:08]
dxtroh right
kusuriya: IT'S SO COLD OUTSIDE
-7C :(
[09:09]
kusuriyadxtr: you need more coffee [09:10]
benDosPussy.
.wa -7c to f
[09:10]
brycecbenDos: skunkbot is awol
.wa is skunkbot
[09:10]
benDosOh
It's 20F
[09:10]
zod000it is a pleasant 22C here [09:10]
dxtrkusuriya: I have no coffee :( [09:10]
benDosThat's fucking bbq weather dxtr
step your shit up
[09:10]
dxtrbenDos: Well, it's a fucking blizzard outside and I wanna go buy pizza [09:10]
mcchunkieTWSS! [09:10]
kusuriyadxtr: get a coat and go do it [09:11]
dxtrIt's gonna be -14 on Thursday :( [09:11]
kusuriyaDO IT NAO! [09:11]
benDosdxtr, do socialists not deliver pizza? [09:11]
dxtrbenDos: Does not seem like so, no [09:11]
kusuriyabenDos: no because if you buy one pizza and have it delivered you have to buy everyone in the building pizza [09:11]
benDoskusuriya, makes a valid point [09:11]
kusuriyaits the socalist way [09:11]
dxtrIt's fucking expensive to get it delivered home :( [09:12]
zod000kusuriya: no, that is the communist way, the socialist way is that the government provides everyone with a pizza fund, but they can only buy it from SwedPizzaCo [09:12]
benDosThat's cause socialists are always bitching and whining about a "living wage"
fuck that
We have capitolism bitches
living wages are for pinko commies
[09:13]
dxtrzod000: No, that's the 'merican socialism [09:13]
kusuriyawe need to go back to employing children for 2.50 an hour [09:13]
dxtrReal socialism is "that the government provides everyone with a pizza fund"
Period
[09:13]
benDoskusuriya, yeah! that'll teach our high school grads what they have to look forward to
get your hs diploma now walmart will hire you at a below the poverty line full time position hooray!
[09:14]
zod000i had to work when i was a kid, but not for 2.5, i got 4.25! [09:14]
benDosjk not full time 28 hours so you don't get health care [09:14]
kusuriyabenDos: nah we all help walmart pay their employees [09:14]
dxtrThis pizza place has 'MURKAN PIZZAS [09:14]
benDoszod000, dollars or deblooms? [09:14]
kusuriyawalmart is clearly a government institution [09:14]
benDosI'm not really sure how it's legal to even have full time positions that pay below the poverty line [09:15]
zod000benDos: doubloons of course [09:15]
dxtrzod000: I earned shitloads of money when I was a kid because the minimum wages are so high and I didn't have to pay tax :p [09:15]
benDosdxtr, and as a kid your expenses are pretty minimal [09:15]
zod000my parents made me get a job when i was 14, but they heavily restrict how many hours you can work then
i think it was like 10 a week
[09:16]
dxtrbenDos: $16/hr [09:16]
zod000until 16 [09:16]
dxtrAnd no tax [09:16]
benDosI was working off the books when i was that age zod000 :x
so no restriction on my hours
dxtr, lol
No one is going to believe you that in soviet swedish there is no income tax
[09:16]
zod000benDos: i worked off the books for my stepfather's business as well, that paid a lot more but was sporadic [09:16]
dxtrbenDos: If I earn less than 30k SEK/per (plus some, I think) there's no tax! [09:17]
benDosdxtr, so why make more than that [09:17]
kylper what? [09:17]
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benDosObviously if the govt pays for things for you [09:17]
dxtrkyl: Per year :( [09:17]
benDosyou have no reason tow ork [09:17]
kylbecause if that's per year [09:17]
benDos</romnasty> [09:17]
kylthat sucks [09:17]
jrickso benDos I was playing with that suggestion for a little while in class and I don't think it gets us anywhere farther
I could just be stupid though
[09:18]
dxtrYou are [09:19]
jrickok [09:19]
benDosHmm
I'll sketch it out for a sec
[09:19]
dxtrDon't worry about it, jrick, us smart people already solved it [09:19]
jrickdxtr: cool. can i haz the solution? [09:19]
benDoshah [09:19]
dxtrjrick: What for? Just go and touch yourself or whatever you do [09:19]
kusuriyakusuriya gets paid from sweden for playing with himself [09:20]
jricksorry won't cut it [09:20]
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dxtrkusuriya: EVERYTHING IS WHITE OUTSIDE
IT'S SNOWING HORIZONTALLY
[09:21]
kusuriyasweet
dxtr: ill be over in an hour to do snow angels
[09:21]
dxtrFuck yeah, it stopped snowing
Now is my chance to get pizza
[09:22]
kusuriyadoooeet [09:22]
AmberJ_benDos, I didn't got time to read this book. But I'm yet to see a Calculus writeup as crazy as this one! :D [09:22]
dxtrIt's now or never
Wish me luck
[09:22]
lwhalenoh god
I worry about myself sometimes
[09:22]
kusuriyakusuriya hands dxtr a pistol
its dangerous to go alone
[09:22]
zod000work just bought free pizza, must by dxtr's influence [09:22]
kyllteo: did you see 40% off at nsp? brah [09:22]
lwhalenwe are all familiar with Eazy E's "Boyz In Da Hood", right? [09:22]
kusuriyalwhalen: yep [09:23]
kyl... [09:23]
lwhalen"Cuz the stacks from Jay-Boss are always large, they come spittin' that trash and the readin' is hard" [09:23]
kylkyl looks up on youtube [09:23]
lwhalen"wanting nothing in life but to read() init(), don't post that trash just paste-bin it"
lwhalen crunks for the camera
!seen ninjapants
[09:23]
BryceBotlwhalen, I last saw ninjapants 4 days 23 hours 37 min 25 sec ago saying in a channel: ha - this one's good, too http://cheezburger.com/6813015808. [09:23]
dxtrzod000: Work gives me a free christmas dinner tomorrow :D
With booze and shit
[09:23]
kusuriya"I gotta get drunk before i start vim" [09:23]
dxtrAlso, pizza on Friday [09:23]
zod000dxtr: christmas is 3 weeks away, they need to ge ta calendar [09:24]
dxtrFuck that
Who wants to meet up with job people during christmas!?
[09:24]
zod000we have an open bar christmas party, but i am not going this year
kids have made a babysitter too hard to get
[09:24]
kusuriyadxtr: open bar? [09:25]
dxtrkusuriya: WITH LOADS OF GLÖGG [09:25]
kusuriyaill be there! [09:25]
dxtrTitties
!
Don't ask me where we're crashing, though
I live 160km from there
[09:25]
kylewww glögg [09:26]
zod000ouch [09:26]
kusuriyalwhalen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeL9gagV_VA i perfer that version [09:26]
BryceBotYouTube Music: "Dynamite Hack-"Boyz In The Hood"_ SEMI-OFFICIAL VIDEO" by Robitussn (3m 15s), 444,503 views, 2,760 likes and 86 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-06-24T19:27:04.000Z. [09:26]
zod000dxtr: i have the same prob with our parties [09:26]
dxtrzod000: Really? Do you also live far away from work? :P [09:26]
lwhalenyup, seen it
there's also a bluegrass cover of Gin and Juice out there
[09:27]
kusuriyadxtr: can we just crash in your cubicle? [09:27]
lwhalenwhich is EQUALLY hysterical [09:27]
zod000dxtr: yeah, about 35 miles, takes about 45 min to drive it [09:27]
dxtrBoyz in the hood!? Moar like New wheels on the block! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0vULHixL0 [09:28]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "Boys On Wheels - New Wheels on the Block" by AdLibsComedy (3m 59s), 78,223 views, 167 likes and 8 dislikes. Uploaded 2007-06-10T23:04:42.000Z. [09:28]
kusuriyadxtr: thats how we know sweden is different
no newtwork here would have the balls to subtitle disabled people
[09:28]
dxtrHaha [09:29]
zod000dxtr: we don't actually have the parties at work as they are too rowdy, we rent out a place [09:29]
dxtrzod000: that's what we do too
But everyone lives in Stockholm
I don't
kusuriya: Look through the swedish song and watch the rest :P
It's hilarious
[09:29]
kusuriyadxtr: i am :D
its great
dxtr: http://youtu.be/1ivTKRSURsQ better
[09:30]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "Punks On Wheels" by serrifax (2m 15s), 308,162 views, 815 likes and 38 dislikes. Uploaded 2007-11-09T16:49:54.000Z. [09:32]
dxtrkusuriya: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0hbg79ftU [09:32]
kusuriyapretty awesome
im almost to the point i can understand it being spoken at pace :o
sort of
[09:34]
dxtrWhat? The way he's talking? [09:34]
kusuriyanah swedish in general [09:35]
dxtrOh right
Titties
[09:35]
kusuriyadamn youtube vids [09:35]
dxtr(Pro-tip: Those videos are norwegian) [09:35]
kusuriyadamn me
kusuriya commits suicide
[09:35]
dxtr:D [09:35]
trafficone:> [09:36]
mcchunkieoh god.. why would you use that face!!!!! [09:36]
dxtrIf you say "fra" in Norwegian you say "from", if you say "fra" in swedish you're talking about the national military surveillance thing [09:36]
kyltrafficone: :< [09:36]
kusuriyameh i should learn spanish
also
[09:37]
dxtrOh god that's horrible [09:37]
trafficonepor que? [09:37]
kusuriyaque paso, work work [09:37]
trafficoneTienes que morir del mano de puta mexicana? [09:37]
kusuriyaLa migra, endale! [09:38]
dxtrPUTA MADRE [09:38]
kusuriyaTu mare? [09:38]
dxtrMIERDA! [09:38]
trafficonecierra la boca [09:38]
dxtrThat's all I know
Oh, I know hora!
[09:38]
trafficonejaja [09:38]
dxtrI know because it means whore in swedish [09:38]
trafficone:-D [09:39]
kusuriyacuanto de su burro? [09:39]
dxtrburrito? [09:39]
kusuriyano burro
dxtr: burro == sna
ish
[09:39]
dxtrAight
"ish"
Can it be more or less a donkey?
[09:41]
kusuriyayeah im not sure if that would be totally the right word for donkey
burrito literally translated means Little Donkey
[09:41]
trafficonegordito literally translated means "fatty" [09:42]
kusuriyawell a gordita as you would order it at taco bell means "Fat Girl" [09:43]
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kusuriyai know a couple hispanic freinds of mine that chuckle everytime some one orders a "Gordita extra cheese" [09:43]
zod000lol [09:45]
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kusuriyapapi chulo was always one of thoose terms of endearment i couldt ever get though
its like im sorry dont call me daddy in any form
ever
... EVER
[09:46]
trafficonewisdom [09:48]
kusuriyait just makes me feel weird when i meet girls with such a daddy complex they want to call me daddy
jesus christ http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/15/10/enhanced-buzz-25476-1352993892-9.jpg
[09:52]
trafficonemore like Cheesus Christ amirite? [09:57]
kylcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese [09:57]
trafficoneTBH, that's how being on a keto diet feels
esp. since I actually did that
[09:58]
kyli couldn't do a keto diet [09:58]
qbitwhoa chrome has a windows 8 mode [09:58]
trafficone(not in public, mind)
s/chrome/windows 8/
[09:58]
lazylopez_(not in public, mind) [09:58]
trafficonewait, is that a dude or a chick? [10:00]
kusuriyaketo diets are generally stupid honestly
trafficone: i cant tell...
i did a lot of research and everything about keytosis came back to one thing which was keytosis is the bodys emergency long running starvation state where your body will start canibalizing its self to keep you alive
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brycec"These Cheezit Extremes are not cheesy enough..." [10:03]
_kapu_put cheese on them [10:04]
brycec_kapu_: it was in reference to 10:56:30 <+kusuriya> jesus christ
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/15/10/enhanced-buzz-25476-1352993892-9.jpg
[10:04]
kusuriyaTHESE CHEESEIT EXTREMES ARE NOT CHEESY ENOUGH! [10:04]
_kapu_ahh [10:05]
kusuriyathat is why america is fat [10:05]
_kapu_Its often the case that I am not in the loop. I should work on this. Or maybe not [10:05]
kylthat's not the only reason [10:05]
brycecI admit, I have gnawed upon a block of cheese... But never that big of a block, and I never ate the whole thing. [10:05]
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kusuriyayeah ive cut me a small block [10:06]
_kapu_I eat lots'o-cheese [10:06]
kusuriyamaybe the size of 2 cheese sticks
but eat straight off the damn block
[10:06]
_kapu_Any of you good people vim golfers?
I just found out about it and am having some fun with this game
its pretty cool
[10:06]
brycecwoooo zpool scrub on just 2TB of data has taken 12 hours [10:07]
kusuriyao/ [10:08]
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_kapu_I thought I was good until I did vimgolf. A humbling experience. [10:09]
brycecBut that's on old-fashioned rotating magnetic media. Scrubbing a volume of SSD's is much, much faster :) [10:09]
kusuriyai bet [10:10]
_kapu_submitted my solution and got like 6th place, there are some really crazy good vim guys there [10:10]
kusuriyaspecially since you get get 6Gbit from it [10:10]
brycecNah, these are on a SATA2 controller, only 150MB/s [10:10]
pirokoqbit: wat is windows 8 mode? [10:10]
kusuriyaaw
piroko: Metro
[10:10]
brycecEven so, 20GB scrubbed in <2m [10:10]
qbitpiroko, basically fullscreen [10:14]
lteo12:22 <@kyl> lteo: did you see 40% off at nsp? brah
kyl: -.-
[10:24]
brycecwell lteo brah, did ya? [10:24]
lteono did not brah [10:25]
brycecpfft rame [10:25]
lteoi need to actually finish at least one chapter of the n books i bought this year before i can justify buying more [10:25]
lwhalenany of you guys know how to read legalese?
a good friend of mine owns his own very small consulting company
[10:25]
lteoi know how to read it, but doesn't mean i understand it ;) [10:25]
lwhalenand he wants to hire me to buy and install a SAN for one of his clients [10:26]
trafficoneI can read and understand it, but I might miss a nuance [10:26]
lwhaleneven though he's a good close personal friend of mine [10:26]
brycecditto, I'm no expert. And I certainly can't write it. [10:26]
lwhalenhe dropped an NDA/non-compete on me that seems... a little excessive [10:26]
bryceclwhalen: drop it on us and let us review it?
CROWDSOURCE IT
[10:26]
trafficonewait [10:27]
brycecGROUPBRAIN GO [10:27]
lwhalenhttp://pastebin.com/yUB1SN44 [10:27]
trafficoneis the NDA self-referential? [10:27]
brycecheh a lot of them are :p [10:27]
trafficonelwhalen: if it's excessive, that's actually a potential weakness on his part
because if he sues, you can use that against him in court
[10:27]
lteo"You shall not disclose that this NDA even exists." [10:27]
trafficonealthough, it'd be "nicer" to present an NDA you can agree to [10:28]
lwhalenhere's my response to his lawyer (also a close friend of mine), hence the informal tone:
http://pastebin.com/6yAYm4fq
[10:28]
brycecit's a lot of boilerplate stuff, of course [10:28]
lwhalenmy biggest concern is line 14 (in my response) [10:29]
brycec"information of the Company and Company’s clients;"
?
oh
[10:30]
lwhalenhttp://pastebin.com/6yAYm4fq - The above and stuff like it is perfectly fine and reasonable. Should I do any of the above, I deserve to get the courtly ban-hammer dropped upon me like the fist of an angry god [10:30]
trafficonelwhalen: that's more important for account execs [10:30]
lwhalenthat line
and line 16
[10:30]
sharveylol
so
my visa application
tries to avoid as many gender-specific words as possible
and then failed at that
[10:31]
kusuriyalwhalen: the noncompete id ask them to drop because of the survival clause [10:31]
sharveyso I'm a he according to this visa application [10:31]
trafficonesharvey: haha [10:31]
kusuriyabecause once you terminate me FUCK YOU ill work for who i want [10:31]
sharveydamn you male-dominated field
of software engineering
[10:31]
benDoswait
what happened sharvey?
[10:31]
brycecWho cares what your gender so long as they give you a decent credit limit [10:32]
sharveymy visa application has a part that explains what I'll be doing in the states [10:32]
trafficonehaha
bbl
[10:32]
sharvey"the trainee/intern will do this, that, etc." [10:32]
benDossharvey, taking jobs from americans [10:32]
sharveyand hten a part said "he will be ..."
I was like, -.-
[10:32]
benDosHah
Yeeeaaaaa
[10:32]
lteobenDos: sharvey lives in north america ;) [10:32]
benDossharvey, you know that for a while cs has more females than almost all the other sciences [10:33]
lteocounterstrike yeah! [10:33]
benDosit's only the last decade or so women (all of them) decided that programming was lame and graphic design is where it's at [10:33]
sharveyyeah
:(
pansies
[10:33]
benDosbring it up at the next lady meeting? [10:34]
kusuriyalwhalen: also note their survival clause ivalidates their entire NDA/noncompete in most state courts :) [10:34]
sharveynah, I'm just entertained
I might pin it up or something on the wall
because it's pretty lols
[10:34]
kusuriyai know Cali and WA state "limits or terms of a contract can not extend past the length of the compensated portion of the contract." [10:35]
brycec^ sounds like it pertains to an employment contract, which this is not. [10:35]
kusuriyathe judge essencially broke it down in WA stating if you want to keep access to an employees personal copyrights and have terms that exist beyond the contract you must keep the contract in perpetuity and the terms of the compensation for such
brycec: employment and other work contracts
the judes state you cant have terms of a contract that last beyond the length of the contract
[10:36]
lteoright. once my length shortens, it's over. [10:36]
brycecGenerall speaking lwhalen I'd say the contract looks pretty standard, pretty boilerplate, so there's at least nothing unusual or "hinky" in it. [10:37]
kusuriyayeah
my only complaint in it is the survival, id ask either strike the non compete and keep survival or strike survival and keep the non compete
those are the options id give them
[10:37]
brycecThat said, I would request a provision be added, given that you are a general IT contractor, that you may work with their clients outside of the contract provided you do nothing to "compete" with Company, LLC. Just my $.02
perhaps - provided that Company, LLC signs off on it.
[10:38]
kusuriyai generally strike both if i can
ive never ran into an issue with it but im in WA who generally finds in favor of the contractor so
[10:38]
brycec(e.g. Client needs you do install some light bulbs, which Company LLC clearly has no interest in.) [10:39]
kusuriyathings i like about WA, they genrally say FUCK YOUR NONCOMPETE SON [10:41]
brycec(I lol'd at your response's line 14 lwhalen ) [10:41]
kusuriya^ [10:41]
brycecLine 20 -- yep, you caught them using boilerplate stuff and they didn't update the #s
brycec has done that many times
brycec has executed a few contracts, if you know what he means. ;)
[10:41]
kusuriyaalll right
and if it was me id have them fix 9 to 4
otherwise they may slip in the missing sections ;)
[10:43]
brycec^ [10:45]
lteoif they slip in something long in the bottom section, it might be painful for you in the long run [10:47]
AmberJ_Quality of education in India: Quoting a question from end semester exam: "What are exceptions in C?" :( [10:47]
kylAmberJ_: well, what are they/ [10:48]
benDosTrick question [10:48]
lteoi bet it's a tirck question [10:48]
kylAmberJ_: let's see how educated you are [10:48]
brycec"fatal" [10:48]
benDosIt's actually not a trick question of fatal [10:48]
AmberJ_err... here is the exact question: [10:48]
benDosthey want you to check the over flow register flags [10:49]
AmberJ_"What is a exception in C programming language?" [10:49]
qbithttp://sourceforge.net/p/keepass/discussion/329221/thread/b9e743f3#8391
^^^ all you gentoo dudes
[10:49]
benDosAmberJ_: "Exceptions are not part of the c99 or gnu99 c spec." [10:49]
qbitthe cairo USE flag
what is that
[10:49]
lteoanswer: exceptions are not used in C, but if really needed, they can be simulated with setjmp and longjmp. however doing so is considered bad practice. the programmer is better off choosing a language that does allow exceptions like C++ or Java. [10:50]
AmberJ_The instructor uses 20-30 year old Turbo C++ compiler (based on DOS)... so there is no doubt that instructor is totally stupid. [10:50]
qbitis that equiv to adding ./configure --with-cairo in libgdiplus? [10:50]
AmberJ_lteo, that^ [10:50]
benDosno...
longjmp can be used to do exceptions
but 110% longjmp is not exceptions
period
they may be asking about errno.h?
[10:50]
lteothat's why i say "simulated" ;) [10:51]
AmberJ_The instructor didn't really meant simulating or doing something similar... She is really really stupid! She teaches from a pre-ansi-c89 book! [10:51]
benDosk&r brah! [10:51]
trafficonehaha [10:51]
benDosALL THINGS ARE INT UNLESS YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE TROLLOLOLOLOL [10:51]
mcchunkiethat's what she said! [10:51]
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lteoexceptions in C are done by first writing a C++ compiler in C, and then writing a C++ program that does exceptions which will be compiled by said compiler. [10:52]
kylthe instructor is clearly dumb [10:52]
benDosI think there is a case to be made that exceptions in c are errno patterns [10:52]
trafficone^ [10:52]
kyl'a' is not the appropriate article for 'exception' [10:52]
benDoskyl, fuck you bro
quit hate'n in indians
you don't know
maybe they don't believe in grammar
[10:52]
kylor do I? [10:52]
benDosWith their loltastic blasphemy laws 'n shit
And crazy civil wars over which make believe friend is best
[10:53]
trafficoneoh, THOSE Indians [10:53]
lteoi'm confused now [10:53]
kylthe sky wizard cults are endemic the world over [10:53]
BryceBotYER A WIZARD kyl [10:53]
AmberJ_I don't blame her for English. English is usually second language here in India, kyl. But I do blame her for her crap knowledge of CS/C. [10:53]
kylnbd js
AmberJ_: I was being facetious...
[10:53]
qbitHOLY SHIT I FIXED IT! [10:54]
lteoo/ [10:54]
kylqbit: what are you even doing with gentoo? brah [10:54]
qbitopenbsd [10:54]
lteoqbit fixed mono. this is not a simple feat. [10:54]
kylthe fuck are you trying to fix mono for? [10:55]
AmberJ_.define facetious [10:55]
lazylopez_To make an attempt at being funny, while being sarcastic at the same time.Jacky was being facetious when she said, "Yes, let's all go to Iraq for my birthday party!" [10:55]
qbitkeepass [10:55]
kyl... [10:55]
benDosAmberJ_,
what answer did you put?
[10:55]
lteokyl: what, you don't want to keep your ass? [10:55]
trafficonedude, Iraq has this great ice cream and IED place [10:55]
kyllteo: no, I am trying to trim down my girlish figure brah [10:55]
kusuriyascones while you wair
**wait
[10:55]
kyltrafficone: s/ice cream/falafel/ [10:55]
trafficoneFALAFEL BATTLE! [10:55]
benDosFUCK THAT
SHWARMA BITCHES
[10:56]
lteokyl: ok brah. i mean you go girl [10:56]
AmberJ_benDos, this question appeared in exam for 7th semester. I'm in 11th semester :D SO, I didn't had to answer this question. [10:56]
mcchunkieaw, where's the pun in that? [10:56]
kyllteo: bro o/ ? [10:56]
benDosOh. [10:56]
qbitlteo: http://deftly.net/keepassfix.diff [10:56]
benDosThe correct answer would have been errno and macromagicks
fact ^
[10:56]
kylthe correct answer would have been fuck this, i'm out [10:56]
lteoqbit: hawt [10:56]
AmberJ_+1 kyl [10:56]
kylcall me when you learn some c [10:57]
AmberJ_I'm collecting exam papers for all semesters this year and I'm gonna do a writeup insulting all those crap teachers in my college. [10:57]
benDoss/l.+/have a degree [10:57]
lazylopez_I'm cohave a degree [10:57]
benDosdoh.
wanted the l :x
AmberJ_, instead of that
want to come to america
and take my calculus final for me
I'll pay you in like
[10:57]
AmberJ_lol no.. :P [10:58]
mcchunkieThat's what c0sh said! [10:58]
AmberJ_I suck at calculus [10:58]
benDos$10,000 worth of C99 info pages [10:58]
trafficonecalculus is the cornerstone of several areas of modern math [10:58]
lteoAmberJ_: but you haz friends who rock at calculus right? [10:58]
benDostrafficone, yeah but none of the cool ones
graph theory is where it's at
[10:58]
trafficoneyet many CS people claim that discrete math is the only sexy math
graph theory does rock my socks
[10:58]
lteograph theory is cutting edge [10:59]
benDoscause set theory is really really important [10:59]
trafficone-_- [10:59]
benDoslteo, fucking zinged bro [10:59]
AmberJ_lteo, heh yea... they always make me feel inferior! :( [10:59]
benDosI want to tramp stamp that on myself now [10:59]
lteo(=^.^=) [10:59]
kyl>< [10:59]
benDostrafficone, i just got told that everett would be abit far out [11:00]
kusuriyait kinda is [11:00]
benDosthe idea that i may pay less than 1000/m for a decent 2bdrm [11:01]
kusuriyabut not really bad [11:01]
benDoswith just an hour 15 or so commute
sounded super sexy
I also want to see how much my car insurance would be cheaper != kings
[11:01]
kusuriyabenDos: come down into renton [11:01]
trafficonehaha [11:03]
benDoslight link into work also sounds neat [11:03]
trafficoneyeah [11:03]
benDoskusuriya, are you in renton proper? [11:03]
trafficoneit really does [11:03]
benDoseverett seemed like 20 to 30% less than where i was looking in kings county for larger apartments [11:05]
trafficoneTBQH, everett has some serious charm. FIOS, proximity to quaint Whidbey Island while still not too far from Seattle, and overall cost of living is cheaper [11:06]
benDosFIOS you say...
benDos is looking up whidbey
[11:06]
trafficoneIIRC, from Shoreline to Everett there's FIOS, but YMMV, so check w/ Verizon [11:07]
benDosThe wiki article doesn't make it seem that cool? [11:07]
trafficoneit's quaint, not "cool" [11:08]
benDosHeh ok
Realistically from the sound transit to kings street station
i mean it's like 1:10 or so on the schedule
for all the trains
[11:08]
lteomy hobby is capitalizing SQL keywords [11:09]
kyli like to alternate the caps
sElEcT
[11:10]
lteoi like to name my tables as SQL keywords [11:10]
kylsElEcT FoO fRoM bAr WhErE bAz='quux'; [11:10]
lteoCREATE TABLE create(... [11:10]
dbtidactually, ANSI C has floating point exceptions... that's the term they use, and they use the terminology of "raising" them. no, it's not the C++ meaning of exceptions, but they do use those terms. they also use the term "object", so C is an object-oriented language, too.
and IIRC the new C ?C11? is going to be doing some funky-ass stupid things, too, to make it more like C++
last i heard, there were going to be some extensions for doing threading in C
[11:11]
trafficonedbtid: I thought floating point overflows were in the CPU and you just read the flags from it, or is there another sort of floating point exception I'm confusing? [11:12]
dbtidtrafficone: here's the issue... what does "exception" mean? what does it mean to "raise an exception?"
in C++ it means one thing, in C it means another.
[11:13]
benDosdtthat's what i said :/ [11:13]
dbtidin the case of C, it's something that gets checked and a status flag is set somewhere. [11:13]
benDosdbtid, * ^
the register flags
[11:13]
trafficoneah, gotcha [11:14]
dbtidwell, yes, i think the register flags are used to set status flags. by conforming machines. [11:14]
benDossame thing can be done for int arithmetic on most modern cpu's
I believe SSE or AVX has some more required flag registers
[11:14]
dbtidi don't know of a CPU in the last 20 years, since i started doing embedded systems, that doesn't have a status register. it's kind of an important thing. perhaps on an asynchronously clocked cpu you would do things differently. i don't know. [11:15]
benDosThere aren't (m)any good reasons when designing a cpu to not have those flag registers
You have that information anyway, no reason to force your users to spend dozens of cycles to calculate something you already know
[11:16]
kusuriyakusuriya makes a processor with 0 flag registers
NONE!
[11:17]
benDosIs it a gpu?
I imagine at least some gpu's don't bother
[11:17]
kusuriyacould be [11:18]
trafficonebenDos: that'd make sense, you could save space, and the expectation is that you won't care if there's an issue because there won't be time to correct it [11:22]
benDosYeah gpu's don't give two shits about most errors
"OH NOOOOOO a couple pixels may be slightly off for one frame"
seattle has sooooo much suburban sprawl
Every area i zoom into looks the same :/
[11:23]
kusuriyabenDos: seattle is one large city from everett to tacoma and out to redmond [11:24]
benDosI'm starting to see that now [11:24]
kusuriyaits kinda like looking down the seaboard on the east coast [11:24]
benDosHeh
And I suppose even half an hour off my commute each way saves me 5 hours a week
yeeeaah
[11:24]
trafficonecompared to the Phoenix valley, it just doesn't feel like that much suburban sprawl to me [11:25]
kusuriyabenDos: just note this area has the highest average commute in the US in terms of time [11:25]
benDosWtf. [11:25]
kusuriyayep [11:25]
benDosI'm confused. [11:25]
lteoanyone knows a simple markdown parser script that'[s written in perl? [11:25]
benDosSo everyone is telling me that if i do bellevue renton etc my commute will be like
half an hour maybe 45 min right?
[11:26]
kusuriyayep
and thats about right
[11:26]
qbitlteo: https://github.com/bobtfish/text-markdown [11:26]
benDosBut in NYC a significant portion of people commute an hour and half if not more
Man idk
[11:26]
lteoqbit: hawt thanks [11:27]
kusuriyathe average commute in the seattle metro area is 35 miles and 1hr 45 minutes [11:27]
benDosIf i need to chill on a train for another half hour a day, i really need to decide if that's worth another 200sqrt on my apt and another 200 in my pocket per month [11:27]
kusuriyadue to traffic [11:27]
benDosHm [11:27]
kusuriyabut if you get on the train or light rail the commute is not affected by traffic
and the busses are affectex less
[11:27]
AmberJ_benDos, lteo, dbtid: This exam paper will show you how dumb the instructor is (if you have a look at other questions). She didn't meant a trick question when she asked about "exceptions in C": http://i.imgur.com/dHazD.jpg
getch(), getche() :P
[11:28]
benDosI don't know off the top of my head what getch and getche are [11:29]
dbtidiirc getch and getche were DOS functions, one to get a char, one to get a char and echo
yeah, conio.h
[11:29]
AmberJ_right dbtid ... old pre-ansi-c89 compilers [11:29]
dbtidstandard DOS programming [11:29]
AmberJ_yup [11:30]
benDosIf it isn't linux i don't know shit about it [11:30]
AmberJ_Don't worry benDos, it's over 20 years old shit [11:30]
benDoslinux is over 20 [11:30]
AmberJ_I meant getch(), DOS programming when I said 20 years old shit [11:31]
lteooh wow i found a really awesome markdown parser thanks to qbit's link
http://www.frykholm.se/files/markdown.lua
[11:31]
AmberJ_"Write a perl code to differentiate between do-while and until loop." (stupid 4 marks question in exam for a post graduate CS program)
"Explain last and next jump statements in perl with example" <-- wtf? there could be better perl questions in a bioinformatics exam...
[11:31]
lteoanswer: @$@$9832587jdsifsdkaw9a8$^^$%!%%!%! [11:33]
benDosAre they seriously testing how well you memorized spec?
Instead of "do x"
or fix y
"Why is this not working"
etc
[11:33]
lteoeducation is done very differently in other parts of the world brah [11:33]
benDos"education"? [11:34]
AmberJ_especially developing countries.. [11:34]
qbitwhoa nice [11:35]
lteobenDos: in many asian countries, the teacher is god, you do not question what s/he teaches. [11:36]
zod000benDos: memorizing spec is easy mode, sign me up [11:36]
mcchunkie(╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ [11:36]
zod000jk btw [11:36]
lteothat has hopefully changed now [11:36]
kyllteo: bro blackfriday [11:36]
zod000lteo: they changed it to "lteo is god, you do not question his trolls" [11:36]
benDoslteo, that's how it was at RIT [11:37]
kylhttps://github.com/russross/blackfriday/ [11:37]
benDosThey tried to fire me when I asked one of profs about something she told us to look into
kyl, that looks sweet
[11:37]
zod000benDos: did you ask him "what does god need wit ha starship?" [11:37]
lteokyl: nice [11:37]
kyllteo: i'm using it in a wiki project brah [11:38]
zod000sorry, i was reading about star trek earlier [11:38]
benDosHah [11:38]
kylit' pretty nice [11:38]
benDosNo i got hired as a summer researcher at a rochester institute of tech, big research uni in ny
One of the profs had us look at a particular type of encryption
I mentioned another paper i had read that claimed what she was putting forward to be mostly broken
Instead of finding a paper to show me or using maths
she went to my boss and suggested he fire me
[11:38]
zod000interesting take on the ad hominem [11:41]
lteohow dare you question her choice of hybrid Caesar/XOR/ROT13 encryption! [11:41]
kylpassed through a custom vigenere [11:41]
AmberJ_heh [11:41]
benDosIt was about using encrypted data in cloud calculation [11:42]
dbtidlteo: ROT26 [11:42]
kylROT52 [11:42]
benDosNoobs [11:42]
zod000dbtid: ROT26 is doubly effective, and so light on the cpu [11:42]
benDos26 and 52 aren't powers of two [11:42]
kylnope
which will throw them off
[11:42]
zod000what criminal mind could break this? NONE [11:42]
kylROT67108864
^ there's your fucking power of two, benDos
[11:43]
dbtidzod000: EXACTLY! high preformance and unbreakable, since no one would ever believe someone would use it! [11:43]
kyl>.> [11:43]
lteostupid computer not knowing that i meant to press OK instead of Cancle [11:45]
benDosLet iptables do your encryption, XOR target. [11:45]
lteoi only use USDA Prime numbers for my RSA algorithm. [11:45]
kylbenDos: are you not letting iptables do your encryption? [11:46]
benDosOhh yay [11:46]
zod000lteo: tasty and secure [11:46]
kyllteo: bro which is why i use 0xDEADBEEF for my IVs [11:47]
pirokoI swear we do more nerf wars than work here [11:47]
kylpiroko: what is it you would say that you do there? [11:47]
pirokolol [11:47]
zod000kyl: I assumed he mean using a prime number of ounces for a steak
zod000 wants a 19oz filet
[11:47]
kyli'm not going to lie [11:48]
lteoso i'll just sit down [11:48]
kyli would take an 18oz filet [11:48]
zod000kyl: prepare to have your steak compromised [11:48]
kyli'll compromise your steak, if you know what i mean [11:49]
benDosOk i'm going home
bbiab gaiz
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pirokoKe$ha has such great lyrics [11:52]
kusuriya.addtroll Ke$ha has such great lyrics [11:54]
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lazylopez_Using .docx to save source files will allow you to colour hilight your syntax. [11:54]
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pirokohahahahahahaha
That one is awesome
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lazylopez_kyl says: holding out for when the iPhone supports Java. [11:57]
brycecdamnit that was annoying [11:57]
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lazylopez_brycec: "if only bing has google mode, where you can search on bing to get your rewards but it gives you google results" -- brycec [11:57]
brycec1pm is a *terrible* time for an ISP to reboot my modem [11:57]
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pirokohahaha
This channel is pure gold
I'm glad I just found it
Someone query when I joined. I can't remember the command
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brycecActually that was my .troll [12:04]
kyl.troll | s/^/piroko: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ [12:04]
lazylopez_piroko: Oh, well if NetBSD agrees with it, then it's flat out wrong. -- brycec [12:04]
brycec12:43 <@brycec> .addtroll All my IP addresses start with 127 [12:04]
pirokobrycec: I agree [12:04]
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kusuriya.troll | s/^/brycec says: / [12:14]
lazylopez_brycec says: Your VBScript code looks very elegant. [12:14]
chilal [12:15]
brycecthese hilights are getting annoying [12:15]
kusuriya:P
kusuriya stops
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brycecThank you [12:15]
AmberJ_b.r.y.c.e.c [12:15]
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brycecokay it was actually clever [12:19]
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trafficonepotato | s/(.)/1./ | s/.$// [12:21]
lazylopez_potato [12:21]
trafficonethat's cool lazylopez_
I'mma get some pizza
[12:21]
brycecnice.
very nice.
[12:23]
benDoskusuriya, sorry were you in renton? [12:23]
lteos/en/ec/ | s/on/um/ [12:24]
lazylopez_kusuriya, sorry were you in rectum? [12:24]
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kusuriyabenDos: i am
well will be
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bryceckusuriya: ooh so you got the place? [12:25]
kusuriyabrycec: nah still thinking positive thoughts
ill know today hopefully
but they havent put the property on the market so
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benDosHmm [12:26]
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benDosOh a bunch of park and rides in renton neat [12:27]
kusuriyatons
Renton is a large commuter area
youll either commute to renton to work at boeing
or commute from renton to seattle or redmond
[12:28]
benDosOh mang
no light link rail in renton :/
[12:28]
kusuriyano
light rail goes from the airport to downtowm
only
commuter rail goes from tacoma to everett
[12:28]
benDosI thought you said there was some train i could take from renton to downtown? [12:29]
kusuriyano that was everett [12:29]
benDosOh
Oohkay :/
So i'd be busing it from renton?
[12:29]
kusuriyayep
or bussing to light rail
and going in
[12:29]
benDosBus to light rail or just bus seems ok i guess
Not nearly as cool as taking a train from everett to like 75 ft from my office though
[12:31]
kusuriyayeah it gets a bit crowded on the buses
but the bus stops like right infront of your office so
[12:31]
brycecPlus trains are cool [12:31]
kusuriyawell the regular commuter train comes with internets IIRC [12:32]
benDosThe bus and light link are right there
i think sound transit either is right there
or right up the street
[12:32]
kusuriyathe sounder is up at the end of the block [12:32]
qbito/
p/
[12:32]
benDosi don't know if kings street station == international district station [12:32]
kusuriyabenDos: it is [12:32]
benDosYeah see that seemed neat [12:32]
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benDosHow does renton fair on rent [12:33]
kusuriyawhen you come up out of the tunnel for the station to the left is the stadium to the right is international district [12:33]
benDosI haven't looked into renton too much yet been busy
sweet
[12:33]
kusuriyabenDos: 1075 sqft house 3 bd 1395/month [12:33]
mcchunkieNew sets for loongson!
New sets for i386!
New sets for amd64!
[12:33]
qbitWHOA [12:33]
kusuriya750sqft apt with 1bd and office was 850 [12:33]
benDosHmm not too shabby
Ok that sounds sweet
To start with anyone
Once i get a feel for my actual expenses i think a nicer apt will be in order but to start as i said i'm underbudgeting like crazy
with anyway*
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brycecIt's fun to have a semi- widely-used application on Pushover :)
My own personal "applications" only get a few pushes in a month, but hey now I get to see the pretty graphs
[12:36]
benDospushover? [12:37]
brycecpushover.net [12:37]
benDoschecking it out now
so it's like
twitter?
[12:37]
brycecno no [12:37]
benDos</troll> :p
I gotcha
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pirokoDURR I'M CINCINNATI BELL I'LL BE AT YOUR HOUSE BETWEEN 8 AND 12 TODAY [12:38]
brycecunless you use Twitter like Pushover (which I do actually) [12:38]
pirokoLOL OOPS IT'S 2 O'CLOCK [12:38]
brycecpiroko: and were they?
ha
[12:38]
benDosPIROKO
DID YOU TRY JIGGLING THE CABLES?
[12:38]
kylLOUD NOISES [12:38]
pirokoWHAT? YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CAT TO THE VET? WHY DIDN'T YOU LEAVE YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING DAY WIDE OPEN?
Oh sorry
Caps lock key got stuck
[12:38]
benDosMore like pirokoangrymode got stuck. [12:39]
kylDOESN'T MATTER, WE DON'T NEED LOWERCASE WHERE WE'RE GOING [12:39]
brycecWOOHOO
WE CAN SAVE BITS IF WE DON'T BOTHER WITH CASE
[12:39]
qbitOH
kyl:
[12:39]
kylWECANSAVEBITSIFWEDONTBOTHERWITHSPACES [12:39]
qbitoh! [12:39]
benDosIRC IS FASTER THAN NODEJS NOW LOLOLOLZ [12:39]
qbitha
kyl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmd8MpJjQJw
OH
[12:39]
BryceBotYouTube People: "Heymoonshaker - Ten letter word" by officialdavecrowe (1m 42s), 1,411 views, 26 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-07-21T00:38:05.000Z. [12:40]
kylqbit: bro WAT [12:40]
qbitBRO THAT
PLAYITLOUD
[12:40]
benDoskyl, that youtube link
The ten letter word thing
[12:40]
brycecBRORGY [12:40]
benDosI imagine that's what he was talking about anyway [12:40]
qbitqbit gets his BROFIST [12:40]
kylDAFUQISTHISSHIT [12:40]
benDosbenDos gets his BROGAT
Spoiler a BROGAT is just a glock i clean with axe.
[12:40]
qbittil benDos uses axe body spray.. and calls it "gat" [12:42]
benDosI think your reading comprehension is a bit shoddy today [12:43]
brycecs/ddy/t/ [12:43]
lazylopez_I think your reading comprehension is a bit shot today [12:43]
benDosBoth work? [12:43]
brycecYes [12:44]
kylGUYS
WHYAREYOUBACKTOLCASE
[12:45]
brycecBECAUSERAPE [12:45]
qbitroughro
someone is gonan get butt probbed
heymoonshaker's other music saddens me
because it isn't as awesome as that song
[12:45]
dbtidqbit: you getting butt probed? i thought you liked girls... [12:47]
benDosTIL pltgames.com is super fucking awesome [12:47]
dbtiddoes your fiance know??? [12:47]
benDosmonthly programming language game [12:48]
brycecdbtid: who said it wasn't his girl doing the probing? [12:48]
qbit^
nbdjs
[12:48]
dbtidbrycec: i suppose not. silly me. [12:49]
brycecshame on you, jumping to conclusions... [12:49]
dbtidwell, at least it's not the only exercise i get... [12:50]
bryceczing! [12:50]
qbithttp://boingboing.net/2012/12/04/tallest-possible-lego-tower-he.html <--- best use of math today
s/today/todate/
[12:53]
lazylopez_http://boingboing.net/2012/12/04/tallest-possible-lego-tower-he.html <--- best use of math todate [12:53]
benDoshah [12:54]
kusuriyahmm should i get a lack rack or just buy a real rack [13:01]
lteobuy a real lack rack [13:03]
kusuriyapft [13:03]
trafficoneI haven't seen real racks in 2' heights
so, AFAICT, it's either Lack hack or hack something else
[13:05]
bryceclack rack ftw
you can always stack lack racks
[13:05]
kusuriya^ [13:05]
brycecI love lack racks... [13:06]
trafficoneget slack, stack-lack-rack hack in your crack shack [13:06]
brycecOf course, be careful when racking heavy things, be sure you've braced the legs adequately [13:06]
kusuriyawell morsi is out now XD [13:06]
trafficoneoh baby [13:06]
brycecbut it's still super-cheap and easy, and stylish [13:06]
kusuriyahttp://youtu.be/rsBJ7gPoRmw [13:06]
BryceBotYouTube News: "Morsi flees as angry crowd storms palace in Cairo, battles riot police" by RussiaToday (5m 43s), 302 views, 89 likes and 5 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-12-04T20:00:33.000Z. [13:06]
kusuriyathey stormed his place
guess his strong arming trying to force egypt to be like the rest of the muslim states didnt sit well with people
[13:06]
trafficonesure he didn't just have a crazy party and forgot to set his privacy settings? [13:07]
kusuriyatrafficone: he tried to set his privacy settings thats the issue
he set them to ultra high then started trying to write the egyptian constitution
[13:08]
trafficonewell put [13:08]
kusuriyathe people simply said "look fucker we want freedom of everything and not another dictator" [13:09]
trafficoneso, reading comments on cnn.com makes me weep for America [13:11]
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kusuriyai cant weep any more for america
the picture of the lady eating a block of cheese was all i had
[13:12]
trafficoneeither thinking that Morsi is the same as Obama, or that Egyptian democracy works exactly like the US [13:12]
benDoskusuriya, does http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/04/1938212/cops-to-congress-we-need-logs-of-americans-text-messages help? [13:12]
lteotrafficone: lol [13:12]
kusuriyabenDos: nope i already knew that [13:12]
trafficonekusuriya: you've literally run out of fucks to give [13:13]
kusuriyatrafficone: yeah now is the time for action
im all out of fucks to give for complaining about it
[13:13]
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kusuriyaim working with my GF to teach her how to use an encrypted SMS app i have [13:14]
benDospidgin-otr is super super easy [13:14]
kusuriyayeah but pidgin OTR doesnt work on the phone or on the go [13:14]
benDosI use that with my gf sometimes
I guess
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kusuriyabut yeah encrypt all the things
you want to try to piss in my cherrios gubmint ill just make it harder :)
[13:15]
trafficoneI don't understand why anyone doing anything illegal wouldn't already be using encrypted sms messages
or at least anonymous phones for their illegal activities
[13:16]
benDostrafficone, if you know enough to use encrypted messages
you probably can swing a living doing something that won't land you in jail
[13:16]
lteothis is how my encrypted text message looks like: y0 d00d w3 d0!ng s0m3th!n6 i113g4L y0 [13:17]
benDoss/$/obama 911 flu [13:17]
lazylopez_this is how my encrypted text message looks like: y0 d00d w3 d0!ng s0m3th!n6 i113g4L y0obama 911 flu [13:17]
trafficoneseriously, search TWITTER for <area code> <drug> HMU
it's depressing
[13:18]
kusuriya^ [13:18]
qbitso much bad music [13:18]
benDostrafficone, i'm gonna go check now :p; [13:18]
qbitwhat is HMU?
how much?
[13:19]
benDoshit me up [13:19]
trafficoneqbit: hit me up [13:19]
qbithaha
nice
i like the notacop twitter profile
https://twitter.com/notapoliceman
[13:19]
trafficoneif you're willing to search facebook, it's all over there too [13:19]
kusuriyaas well as pictures of peoples drug scores
people as a whole are dumb
[13:19]
qbitcredit cards [13:20]
benDosDude trafficone you were serious [13:20]
trafficonebenDos: :-( sad story, bro [13:20]
benDosi mean the zip code didn't work but #somearea weed hmu
seems to hit all the time
[13:20]
bryceceg https://twitter.com/Noah480/status/275065442874318849 [13:21]
BryceBotTWITTER: Anyone need bud hmu tonight its 25 a g but its the best weed in az and ill hook up!! Just hmu on twitter or text me 480-430-9775 (Sun Dec 02 02:34:46 +0000 2012) [13:21]
bryceczip codes are kinda small, hence ppl use area codes instead [13:21]
benDosheh
i'll try that
no go
lol
[13:21]
kusuriyabenDos: HMU is code word for IAMA COP [13:24]
benDosLol
Cops on the internet
[13:24]
trafficoneit happens [13:24]
benDosWhen they try to pick up some kid to diddle and it turns out to be another cop
Then whoever says "GOTCHA" first
they get to make the arrest
[13:25]
kylhttps://twitter.com/notpolice/status/275360375879397376 hahahahaha [13:25]
BryceBotTWITTER: I have all these empty tobacco blankets but no marijuanas to roll in them :( can someone please help me out?? (Sun Dec 02 22:06:44 +0000 2012, retweeted 221 times) [13:25]
trafficoneand it's safe to assume that everyone offering drugs/hookup info on the Internet is a cop [13:25]
kusuriyayep [13:25]
benDosOn one hand I agree
On the other, i don't try to find drugs or hookups on twitter
so i'm good
[13:25]
trafficonewell, yeah, that's because of the safe assumption
like, it's probably a mix of cops/dumbasses
but someone involved in that wouldn't want to get mixed up with either
[13:26]
kylman
i start looking through twitter
especially the @needadebitcard people
[13:26]
lteoand was amazed at the quality of the tweets [13:27]
kyland it's like, fuckkk, these are real people [13:27]
sharveyhahahahaa [13:27]
benDosI assume about 1/3rd of what i read online is written by some poor inmate in a chinese jail [13:27]
sharveyI assume some small portion of what I read online is by a poor phd student who's lost all hope [13:27]
benDosphdcomics? [13:28]
qbitha [13:28]
sharvey(#csc has a resident phd student who is a huge troll) [13:28]
kylany time anyone wants to debate the question of whether we share a common ancestry with monkeys [13:28]
brycecsharvey: is it YOU? [13:28]
kyli just point out the internet [13:28]
trafficones/ a / several / [13:28]
lazylopez_i just point out the internet [13:28]
sharveybrycec: no [13:28]
benDos#csc has some lols [13:28]
sharveybrycec: but, people have accused me of being this other person [13:28]
benDosused to idle in there [13:28]
bryceclol [13:28]
sharveybenDos: I am now on csc syscom [13:28]
trafficonebryce just accused you right now [13:29]
sharveyand was csc sysadmin last term
kyl: hahahaha
[13:29]
kylsyscom == system commander? [13:29]
trafficonemaybe it's your secret other identity that even you don't know about? [13:29]
sharveykyl: systems committee [13:29]
kyltrafficone: MPD [13:29]
benDosOhh [13:29]
trafficonedo you get nasty messages from yourself? [13:29]
kylholy shit
canada is being all communist
[13:29]
benDossystem commander is way cooler [13:29]
kylwhat with committees and bulshit [13:29]
sharveyhahaha [13:29]
kyl*bullshit [13:29]
benDosBro [13:29]
lteokyl: syskom? [13:29]
benDosWe have committees to. [13:29]
kyl(my officemate is french canadian) [13:29]
sharveywe have n systems
psh
french canadians don't count
[13:29]
brycecoh you poor thing kyl [13:30]
sharveythey're a separate species [13:30]
benDosYeah fuck those guys! [13:30]
kylsharvey: DON'T TRY TO SWAY ME WITH YOUR CANADIA^wCOMMERNIST LIES
sharvey: i'm just gonna lump you in
[13:30]
lteosharvey: if they don't count, how do they do math? [13:30]
kyl^ [13:30]
sharveylteo: I see what you did there [13:30]
kylbut do you [13:30]
benDoslteo, you are none stop with the pun train
for like
a week
Stop watching so much sienfeld.
[13:30]
sharveyare you trying to revoke his pun card [13:31]
lteobenDos: dude i've always been on the pun train [13:31]
benDosMaybe i just started paying attention?
Idk
[13:31]
sharveybenDos: you're just a hater [13:31]
benDosFalse [13:31]
kyltrue [13:31]
trafficoneerror [13:31]
kylbenDos is a professional hater [13:31]
benDosNILOLOLOL [13:31]
kylof everything and everyone [13:31]
sharveyhahaha [13:32]
kyltrafficone: ENOLOVE ? [13:32]
sharveywe had ENOBEER earlier
on saturday
it was catastrophic
[13:32]
kylyeah
actually i do believe that's an EMERG in syslog
benDos: I'm sorry, I was wrong
[13:32]
mcchunkieNew sets for macppc! [13:33]
benDoskyl, are you still mad that i dynamicly link things sometimes?
dynamically even
[13:33]
kusuriyaECLOBBER [13:33]
kylno, i just realised you don't hate *everything* [13:33]
benDos~java? [13:34]
lteolteo bracs.. [13:34]
kyli forgot how much you love calc2 [13:34]
benDosEvery thing such that thing != calc2
that's true
[13:34]
sharveycalc2 isn't hard [13:34]
lteobenDos: ^ [13:34]
kyltell that to benDos [13:34]
lteobenDos: finally! someone who can help! [13:34]
dbtidSIX MORE WORK DAYS! [13:35]
benDosheh
benDos does calc2 as the level of a four year old and graph traversal like a chinese
[13:36]
lteoapply graph theory to solve calc2 - problem solved [13:36]
benDosBro
Neural network to solve integrals
done and done
Neural networks as you know work for prettty much everything
And are the optimal solution for approximately nothing
[13:37]
trafficonesounds like a brain to me [13:37]
benDosneural networks vary in the biological fidelity
I've written some with a neuroscientist so the software models brain activity
and others use similar concepts with no regard for how closely the model matches a brain
ugh i'm gonna miss doing research projects :/
[13:38]
kusuriyahaha my favorite gun ban argument of all time [13:40]
benDosyesh? [13:40]
kusuriya"Well you see if we eleminate the demand the supply will and blackmarket will dwindle" [13:41]
benDosThat's true [13:41]
dbtidyeah, because only brand new guns are sold on the black market. [13:41]
benDosI mean false premise and shit [13:41]
kusuriyayeah tell me how well that has worked to stop prostitution [13:41]
dbtidso yeah, that would dry it up. [13:41]
benDosbut that statement taken as it's own is true [13:41]
bryceceliminate... the demand... for gun, power, etc? LMFAO
*its benDos
[13:41]
kusuriyabenDos: no where has that statement ever been true :P
prohibition, prostitution, drugs
[13:41]
benDosWut
Are we talking about the same quote
[13:42]
lteomy powerful gun has eliminated its supply due to huge demand [13:42]
kusuriyayes [13:42]
benDosIf you eliminate demand, markets shrink
fact of economics
[13:42]
kusuriyaso if we take colaries that have blackmarkets where we already have outlawed and "eleminated" the demand [13:42]
benDosThat said [13:42]
lteoeleminate everything [13:42]
benDosDemand for drugs, guns, paying for sex, has never been addressed in law [13:42]
kusuriyathe black markets for them thrive [13:42]
benDosAside from putting people in jail if you get caught
That's why i said
it's true but a false premise
[13:42]
kusuriyabenDos: um yes it has for sex in some states
for sex anyway
[13:43]
benDoshm?
People in Nevada all drive to henderson to get their knob slobbed?
No.
[13:43]
kusuriyain Kansas City Kansas it is illegal to be caught trying to solicit sex [13:43]
benDosRight
as in most places
curbs demand
no eliminated
[13:43]
kusuriyaso if you are the john its outlawed
it doesnt really curb demand
the black market for it is still strong as ever
[13:44]
benDosThis argument is going no where
We both agree
And both are not going to bother to find facts to support out side
[13:44]
kyland now for our daily drugs / guns / political argument [13:44]
benDosToo late kyl
already quashed it
with muh logic skillz
[13:44]
kylhahahahahahahaha [13:45]
kusuriyabenDos: not really but meh [13:45]
kylthe same logic skills that lead you to DYNAMICALLY LINK THINGS
psh
[13:45]
benDosHah [13:45]
sharveyare we talking about sex? [13:45]
kyl>.> [13:45]
lteowhat's this dynamically link things reference? [13:45]
benDoslteo, kyl things dynamically linking libs will shrink his peep [13:45]
kyl<-- doesn't like dynamic libs [13:45]
benDosthinks* [13:45]
kyland bendos needs an attack ad hominem to support his argument [13:46]
trafficonesharvey: not in Kansas City, we're not [13:46]
kylkyl shrugs [13:46]
sharveyok [13:46]
lteokyl: so all your binaries are statically linked? [13:46]
kylas much as i can [13:46]
benDoskusuriya, so you are going to go find a source accurately reports demand for prostitutes is unrelated to legality/ [13:46]
kylon os x, that's not easy [13:46]
benDosjust not
kyl, isn't that sop on irc
[13:46]
kusuriyabenDos: but all im saying is i love when people use that argument to espouse gun bans thinking its a magic bullet [13:46]
benDosi agree
:p
that's why i said we agree and arguing further was silly
brb though
[13:46]
trafficonetypically, states outlaw johns and pimps and basically assume that all prostitutes are slaves [13:49]
benDoslteo, sta.li
http://sta.li rather
it's like totally not a troll distro according to kyl
[13:49]
trafficoneinstead of implementing industrial oversight, they force the market underground and put legit prostitutes in unnecessary harm [13:49]
kusuriya^ [13:50]
benDosalso puritan ideas about sex
that paying for sex is baaaaad
[13:50]
kusuriyatrafficone: well its 50 50 right now
half the states outlaw johns half outlaw the hoes
all outlaw the pimps
[13:50]
trafficoneI think that that's the main reason they don't regulate the system
'cause sex is ickypants
[13:51]
mcchunkie(╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ [13:51]
kusuriyasome states belive by removing the supply you remove the demand, and by removing the demand you remove the supply
but if you go to an area where its legal and regulated there are very few problems like reno
reno sucks for a whole host of problems but the hookers are not one of them
[13:51]
trafficonewell, it kind of double sucks, because if youuu are a ho and you need protecction, your only option is to go with a pimp [13:53]
dbtidespecially because there won't be any guns with which you could protect yourself. [13:53]
trafficonewell, you could always keep a derringer in your pooper, but... [13:53]
dbtidbut that's a gun
and guns are bad
no one should be able to own a gun
guns kill people!
[13:54]
kyltruth [13:54]
trafficoneso do pimps [13:54]
dbtidlike that football player who could ONLY have killed his gf with a gun! [13:54]
trafficoneif it comes to that [13:54]
kusuriyatrafficone: pimps like to break legs first as a warning [13:54]
kyldbtid: it's been scientifically proven [13:54]
trafficonealso large wads of meat [13:54]
kusuriyaindimidation goes a long way [13:54]
dbtidhe could NEVER have used a knife (outlaw those) or a baseball bat (ban those too) or a screwdriver (ban them!!!) [13:54]
lteoor a frozen turkey [13:55]
kusuriyadbtid: or just beat her do death [13:55]
dbtidhe could never have strangled her with his HUUUUUGE football player arms (BAN FOOTBALL!) [13:55]
kylhe wouldn't have thought to use those because they are not overtly weapons [13:55]
dbtidkusuriya: i was getting to that
kyl: oh, yeah. he played football so he was too stupid to think of those other things
[13:55]
kylcorrect [13:55]
trafficonewell, football does cause brain damage [13:55]
kylplus, good citizens don't think of ordinary household items as weapons [13:55]
kusuriyakyl: ifs funny you say that because boxers are usually required to register their hands as lethal weapons but most are too dumb to realize it :) [13:56]
dbtidkyl: we could maybe figure out how to put all the bad citizens in one place, maybe? keep them there away from all the good citizens?
kyl: what do you think?
[13:56]
kyldbtid: like a summer camp [13:56]
trafficonehow does one register something as a lethal weapon? [13:56]
kylthat lasts all year? [13:56]
dbtidkyl: exactly [13:56]
kusuriyatrafficone: just like you register a gun [13:57]
kyli bet they'll find high levels of marijuhana
in his blood
[13:57]
dbtidi bet they find high levels of twinkies in his blood [13:57]
kusuriyaid like to register my cock as a leathal weapon [13:57]
benDosQBIT http://youtu.be/mFDiiSqGB7M !!!!! [13:57]
dbtidhe was rich so he probably bought out all of them from the store before any of the poor people could [13:57]
BryceBotYouTube Education: "Community Ecology II: Predators - Crash Course Ecology #5" by crashcourse (10m 23s), 302 views, 98 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-12-04T21:11:50.000Z. [13:57]
kylkusuriya: because people die from laughing when you pull it out? [13:57]
benDostwss [13:58]
mcchunkieAdded funny: "kusuriya: because people die from laughing when you pull it out?" [13:58]
kusuriyakyl: exactly [13:58]
lteokyl: wrong.. it's so "leathal" that it kills on sight [13:58]
trafficone"another girl's life, tragically cut short by a hilariously tiny penis... real shame"
"when will the littledicks learn?"
[13:59]
qbitbenDos: o/ [14:00]
kylhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1XpoVkZSqU&playnext=1&list=PLEA160EADAD74C535&feature=results_video [14:00]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "County Sheriff: Pilot - 1x1" by ryanthewebber (12m 9s), 267 views. Uploaded 2012-03-04T23:52:59.000Z. [14:00]
qbitone of my fav predations .. is the wasp that makes ants go really really high on trees..
the other is the wasp that zombifies spiders
[14:04]
kusuriyalets see if devious can save my ass again with testing :D [14:08]
qbitqbit hits file -> save [14:10]
kyl:o [14:11]
kusuriyahmm does devious let normal users check mailq
well looks like it kind of does
hey brycec verizon has devio.us blacklisted
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bryceckusuriya: that's cool
(We've jumped through their hoops before. Unfortunately, apparently our members are idiots and still send spam)
[14:21]
kusuriyayeah doesnt suprise me
just combing through the mail queue
making sure my mail went out
[14:24]
brycecyeah I know where you saw it :P [14:24]
kusuriyaMicrosoft's mail servers are not delivering external mail :D [14:24]
bryceckusuriya: I'll PM you the maillog [14:25]
kusuriyabrycec: thanks [14:25]
kyljrick: qbit: itunes is actually usable under os x [14:26]
qbitwhat's an os x? [14:26]
kylisn't slow and shitty
qbit: says the guy using windows 8 brah
[14:26]
lteokyl: new or old itunes? [14:26]
kusuriyakyl: thats not a surpise [14:26]
kyleither [14:26]
kusuriyaif i had a mac id prolly use itunes TBQH [14:26]
kylitunes 9, 10, and 11 weren't bad
but the new interface seems to be anti-ipod
i can see jsut a giant list of songs on it
no column browser
[14:26]
benDosIs itune's ui still terrible for 13k+ songs? [14:27]
kylno [14:27]
benDosIt used to lag and chew on my cpu when scrolling [14:27]
kyli have more than that on my ipod [14:27]
benDosI have a lot of flac
And a 30gb ipod
Soo I have way less than that on my ipod
[14:28]
kyli convert flac->aac for the mac
and i don't have that much lossless
[14:28]
benDosI haven't felt like converting all my flacs to mp3 for the ipod tbh
All (+/-) of my music is rips
bandcamp also lets you buy flac ++
[14:28]
kylwhen i rip music, i do it on teh mac [14:29]
benDosI may have mentioned before, I only have linux desktops/laptops
And one desktop windows 7 refuses to run on, but apparently i need to try again and zero the entire disk
Cause windows 7 cares that the disk it is installed onto may have some weird bits in unallocated space :/
[14:29]
qbitbandcamp [14:30]
benDosyesh? [14:30]
trafficonewill AWS kill a process on your server if it takes up too much processing power? I was under the impression it just didn't have very many cycles to give [14:30]
benDosThey are awesome [14:30]
qbiti need a way to put music on my spankinnewfreeipod [14:30]
benDosI <3<3<3 bandcamp [14:30]
qbitwithout itunes
because stabieeff itunesz
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benDosqbit, rockbox and it's normal usb drive access [14:31]
qbitnosir [14:31]
benDosYessir [14:31]
qbitit's the ipod touch nano [14:31]
brycectrafficone: I've never seen that happen, and I don't think they have the ability to kill a process. However, I've seen OOM-killer many a time. [14:31]
benDosOh. [14:31]
qbitwhich isn't rockboxsupported [14:31]
benDosCan you put netbsd on it? [14:31]
brycectrafficone: (see dmesg for logs of "oh god I'm out of memory, KILL KILL KILL") [14:31]
qbitqbit installs clementine [14:31]
kylinstall banshee
or whatever ubuntu's default player is
[14:31]
benDosisn't that Qt dependent? [14:32]
kylkyl shrugs [14:32]
qbitis [14:32]
kusuriyakusuriya installs banshee
because fuck you all you mono haters
[14:32]
qbit<3 mono now
that keepass works on openbsd
[14:32]
benDosTbh http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/
Rhythmbox is lovely tbh
[14:32]
qbittbhtbh
srstbh
ehhem
qbit makes more coffee
[14:33]
benDosI only stopped using it when it did funny things on remote storage that vlc happily buffers like a good program [14:33]
mcchunkieNew sets for amd64!
New sets for i386!
[14:33]
benDosmcchunkie: toogle e [14:33]
qbitaw [14:33]
benDosGoosebumps. [14:34]
qbitbest.. book series... ever [14:35]
brycec@lod [14:35]
BryceBotಠ_ಠ [14:35]
kusuriya@tableflip [14:36]
BryceBot(╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ [14:36]
mcchunkie┬──┬ ¯_(ツ) [14:36]
brycecwow mcchunkie, a bit slow there... [14:36]
kusuriyabecause FUCK THIS SHIT [14:36]
brycec(4 seconds on my end) [14:36]
kylis rhythmbox that one that comes with ubuntu? [14:36]
qbitbrycec: she waits for a random amount of time [14:36]
kylbecause whatever taht one is sucks pretty bad [14:36]
brycecqbit: oh that's new, nice, much better. [14:36]
kusuriyatonight dovecot+postfix to my server :D [14:36]
benDoskyl, i don't think so
i think you were right with banshee for that
[14:36]
brycecFor everyone with a .edu email and Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace [14:37]
qbitclementine is pnice [14:37]
kusuriyai thought it was rythm box
because ubuntu was trying to remove the mono deps
[14:37]
qbitit is a fork of amarok before they went all 2.0 [14:37]
benDosamarok was good for a while too [14:37]
kusuriyabanshee is awesome
you just have to deal with mono if youre not on windows
and GTK#
[14:37]
qbitwhoa clementine has google drive / sound cloud integration [14:38]
kusuriyawhich is a hot nightmare [14:38]
benDosMono and GTK? [14:38]
qbitholy shit - and spotify [14:38]
benDosThat seems redundant? [14:38]
kusuriyabenDos: Mono does not come with a UI TK in !windows [14:38]
benDosOr does mono just use gtk to emul? [14:38]
trafficoneholy shitbananas, all the packages I need to build are already built and in the repos [14:38]
benDosohh ok [14:38]
kusuriyait integrates with GTK# [14:38]
qbitoh man [14:39]
benDosi thought it did tbh [14:39]
qbitand grooveshark [14:39]
benDosbut i never use it
so yeah
[14:39]
kusuriyawhich emulates GDI and GDI+ for windows stuff [14:39]
benDosthey do everything else :p [14:39]
brycecgoddamn I'm now at 18.4GB of Dropbox space [14:39]
qbitha awesome
clementine can play spotify music!
[14:40]
benDosbrycec why dropbox? [14:40]
brycecbecause? [14:40]
qbitthis bitch is getting ported [14:40]
benDosSome stuff you prefer not on devious or your other servers if you have any idk?
Idk I've had no need for dropbox since scp?
benDos also has no smartphone that only has apps, instead of rpm or debs :/
[14:40]
brycecbenDos: I've had Dropbox for years... And there's no replacing its auto-sync between machines.
Dropbox isn't for everyone, but it has its uses.
[14:41]
benDosbenDos shrugs
Ok
[14:41]
qbitbut no pandora [14:41]
kylERBERNTER ERN [14:42]
brycecqbit: no pithos? [14:42]
qbitdon't see it anywhere
or know what it is
[14:42]
brycecqbit: http://kevinmehall.net/p/pithos/
I think it's python+gtk
[14:42]
benDoskusuriya, trafficone i'll be able to find good greek food right? [14:42]
brycecso it is https://github.com/kevinmehall/pithos [14:42]
kusuriyabenDos: not sure ive never looked for greek [14:43]
benDosHuh, ok [14:43]
kusuriyai hear there are some places downtown [14:43]
qbitoh nice
jesus it does podcasts too
[14:43]
benDosvlc does podcasts bro
emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need.
I don't think emacs can play mkv's with 2d accel?
[14:43]
kusuriya.addtroll emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need. [14:44]
lazylopez_emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need.: was added [14:44]
benDoshttp://www.gnu.org/software/emms/...
Audio support : MP3, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC
Video support : MPEG, WMV, MOV, AVI, OGM, MKV, etc...
!!!!!
Wtf.
Nooo
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trafficonebenDos: if it's good gyros you want, Mr. Gyros is pretty good. If you want srs fancy greek, I can't speak past that. [14:47]
brycecI want gyros now... [14:48]
trafficoneOH SHIT
WAIT
I REMEMBER THIS GREAT GREEK PLACE
[14:48]
kusuriyaitalian i get do
tulios is bitching
[14:48]
benDosTbh i first wanted a gyro something bad [14:48]
kusuriyabut gyro never had em [14:48]
benDosbut then i remembered all the stuff i used to get at small greek place i used to go to [14:49]
trafficonethere's Pete's Eggnest, which is really good for greek + breakfast grub [14:49]
benDosand had to point to the menu :/
sweet
[14:49]
kylhow about some spanakopita [14:49]
trafficoneand there's also Taki's Mad Greek [14:49]
benDosGuys
Guy
[14:49]
kusuriyapiroshki is an awesome food though [14:49]
benDosDon't drop it ok
emacs is a media player
seriously
[14:49]
kyli know [14:49]
benDosFuck man. [14:49]
kyland irc client
and email
[14:49]
kusuriyabenDos: EMACS is an OS [14:49]
trafficonekusuriya: true dat, I had some piroshky today [14:49]
benDosSee I knew emacs was an os [14:49]
trafficoneemacs is a game engine [14:49]
benDosBut an os that ships with more features than windows? [14:50]
kylemacs is not an os [14:50]
kusuriyaemacs is also a webbrowser [14:50]
kylemacs is a virtual machine for lisp [14:50]
benDosnot clisp?
or guile?
[14:50]
kyl? [14:50]
kusuriyaim tempted to try emacs as an IRC client [14:50]
kylthe fuck do any of those have to do with this?
kusuriya: erc
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kylM-X erc [14:50]
benDosi thought emacs used clisp
and was eventually maybe moving to guile
for the sake for rms
[14:50]
kyl... [14:51]
benDosbenDos uses emacs 0s per year [14:51]
trafficone@rms [14:51]
BryceBotRichard Stallman says: Restricting copying is not the only basis for business in software. It is the most common basis because it brings in the most money. If it were prohibited, or rejected by the customer, software business would move to other bases of organization which are now used less often. There are always numerous ways to... <it just rambles on> [14:51]
kyli use it fairly often [14:51]
trafficone@log_search emacs [14:51]
BryceBot640 results found. Here's one at random: Feb 08, 2012 10:32:32 <brycec > Chunkhost -> [Peer1 -> tinet -> seabone] -> emacsdaddy [14:51]
trafficoneI wish I could tell python that it's running in a headless environment, so it doesn't get sad when it can't run graphics stuff [14:52]
kyltrafficone: ? [14:53]
benDosCan you tell it to ignore a certain class of errors and filter some output to /dev/null? [14:53]
trafficonekyl: for example, this one module is testing matplotlib on a headless server [14:53]
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qbitmy god - clementine has projectm in it
,3
[14:54]
benDostrafficone, can you over right what lib it is looking for before it gets loaded and lie to it?
s/right/write
[14:55]
lazylopez_trafficone, can you over write what lib it is looking for before it gets loaded and lie to it? [14:55]
brycecPython is well aware that it's headless...
Just a matter of some modules that don't care and try and do crap (like matplotlib, I guess)
[14:55]
benDosRight, so python lets you do loooots of introspection [14:56]
trafficone^ [14:56]
benDoswhen it loads that library
go in there muck around with some shit and lie to it
[14:56]
trafficonehaha [14:56]
kylthat is one nice thing about python
ipython is the most compelling reason to use python
[14:56]
trafficoneat least it doesn't test on load, so it'll just work [14:56]
benDosyou could even trace or trap the class load to filter out stuff i imagine
DID YOU FILE A BUG REPORT?
[14:57]
kylpython won't, however, let you monkey patch builtins [14:58]
mcchunkieI am a respectable lady! I will not take this lying down! [14:58]
benDosrewriting your lexer and parser on the fly for an interrupted languages seems pretty painful
even for python to force on it's implementations
ruby probably lets you do stuff like that
[14:58]
lazylopez_Ruby syntax looks like someone pulled off all the symbols from their keyboard, inserted them into a shotgun and shot them into a $20 hooker that had been dead for 3 days.. [14:58]
brycec*its [14:58]
qbithttps://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/
whoa
[15:00]
trafficonebenDos: IDK who I'd even file the bug report with, there are so many modules used by this module it's just silly
once it says "requires numpy and scipy" I assume that it's maintained by a league of wizards
[15:00]
BryceBotYER A WIZARD trafficone [15:01]
trafficoneBryceBot: not so loud, do you want Voldermort to hear? [15:01]
benDoshah [15:02]
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qbitoh hai zentrification [16:22]
AmberJ_.troll [16:24]
lazylopez_you just cant chew on a pig pancreas [16:24]
kyl.troll | s/^/AmberJ_: / | s/$/ --qbit/ [16:25]
lazylopez_AmberJ_: mcchunkie's an asshole, because it's written in node.js --qbit [16:25]
kyl^ proof [16:25]
qbithaha [16:25]
kylo/ [16:25]
qbito
i don't even know how that happened
lazylopez_ is a person
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qbitcommittin like a bawss!
qbit waits for things to break
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dbtidheh
optimist
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benDosAre ecommerce sites required to track how many people open up the page with their linked terms and conditions you have to agree to? [18:24]
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benDosSoo [18:54]
zenmowerzenmower is taking his bosses job
boss is leaving
zenmower should get more money
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qbitnice o/
upgradecomplete
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zenmoweryeah now i have to find somebody to do my job [19:20]
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AmberJ__zenmower: Hire me! kthxbye! :P
Congrats zenmower
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AmberJ_Quick question: nginx OR lighttpd?
My requirements: as lightweight as possible. I need to host only few static html files!
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zenmowernginx [19:56]
AmberJ_Ok thanks! [19:59]
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zenmowerprobably you should do lighthttpd
i just no nginx
so i would use it
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kylAmberJ_: srvwd :o [20:07]
zenmowerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWl5peI8HY [20:07]
BryceBotYouTube Music: "Hayseed Dixie - Bohemian Rhapsody video (Official)" by johannespud (3m 41s), 1,239,115 views, 5,654 likes and 170 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-21T16:14:38.000Z. [20:07]
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lteothttpd ;) [20:22]
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zenmoweruse kyl's go server [20:34]
bryceclol, required by whom exactly? Did the Internet suddenly gain a law enforcement entity? 19:24:10 <+benDos> Are ecommerce sites required to track how many people open up the page with their linked terms and conditions you have to agree to?
Also nginx is now in base OpenBSD, so +1 for nginx
Then again, I <3 lighttpd
brycec has a new chair, woo
[20:39]
zenmowerzenmower has a new jerb
woo
i want to get a house i can shoot out of the back door
a lot
[20:40]
qbitthttpd++ [20:46]
bryceccongrats, btw, zenmower [20:48]
zenmowerthanks
i didn't really do anything
boss decided to move on
kind of sucks i am the only dev
so imma have to find somebody
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sharveytrafficone: do the twins get on here at all? [22:18]
kylthe twins
sounds ominous
[22:18]
sharveyyes
one is evil
one is good
though neither of them have goatees...
[22:18]
kylof course not
that's passé
and unacceptable for undercover evil twins
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brycecThey've both tried mustaches... didn'g look good
sharvey: On average, once every 2 years or so :P
sharvey: In fact I barely ever hear or see either of them :/
For being such tech-y people, they're oddly uncommunicative - no facebook, no G+, no IRC...
Oh and they never seem to have their phone
"Why don't you guys include us more." Well we do, we text and call you, but you don't answer :P
@seen FrozenDice
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BryceBotbrycec, I last saw frozendice 118 days 7 hours 33 min 35 sec ago (Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:11:10 -0700) quitting: Ping timeout: 248 seconds. [22:44]
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