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| up_the_irons | anyone used these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167192
looks like a wicked price for a 480GB SSD ($199) | [06:08] |
| mhoran | What's with the skull? Haha | [06:17] |
| up_the_irons | it's hip brah
maybe this is better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148821&cm_re=500gb_ssd-_-20-148-821-_-Product | [06:17] |
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| m0unds | up_the_irons: anandtech seems to like that model w/caveats about hw crypto & power consumption | [08:19] |
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| brycec | Ooooooooh that's shiny, 480GB for $200, good brand... | [09:19] |
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| acf_ | we have our own tools for that anyway :P
oops wrong terminal :P | [10:25] |
| brycec | lol | [10:29] |
| mercutio | was that intel 730?
oh mx100 | [10:42] |
| brycec | mercutio: yes | [10:43] |
| mercutio | is also cheap | [10:43] |
| brycec | "Intel 730 Series" | [10:43] |
| mercutio | i was thinking of getting mx100s before
they have higher block size ;( i kind of decided to wait. i think they shifted to 16k block size from 8k block size | [10:43] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [10:45] |
| mnathani | Brycebot: no | [10:51] |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'i think they shifted to 16k block size from 8k block size' | [10:51] |
| mercutio | what happened to seagate 600s
last black friday they were really cheap iirc but i had no idea if they were good | [10:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | anyone here used ipmiview (java) before?
having trouble firing up the console. | [10:59] |
| mercutio | oh god
that program is terrible :) you mean the downloadable ipmi tool from supermicro right? | [11:00] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah, the 20 files or so | [11:03] |
| mercutio | yeah i didn't like it
try the commandline ipmitool | [11:04] |
| RandalSchwartz | where do I get that?
and I need to see the screen to see what went wrong if it won't reboot | [11:05] |
| mercutio | it comes with most os's
except windows :) setup serial console? | [11:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | I don't know anything about serial consoles like this. | [11:06] |
| brycec | http://www.paranoid.nl/~marieke/freebsd/ipmi/ipmicons.html should guide you on setting up the SoL console
(More recent FreeBSD's won't require recompiling the bootloader, according to http://serverfault.com/questions/574351/serial-over-lan-on-freebsd-10-0-with-supermicro-x9-scm-f) | [11:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | Garry says "I used IPMIView. It's the "KVM Console" tab and then click "Launchr KVM Console". Do you see the row of tabs on the bottom after your login?r" | [11:08] |
| brycec | The tl;dr of it is that the SoL enumerates as just another serial port, and setting up SoL on the server is no different than setting it up for a standard serial console. | [11:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | again, something I'm not familiar with. | [11:09] |
| brycec | (Pffft what does "Garry" know, he's know up_the_irons </sarcasm>)
s/know/no/ | [11:09] |
| BryceBot | <brycec> (Pffft what does "Garry" no, he's no up_the_irons </sarcasm>) | [11:09] |
| brycec | (d'oh) | [11:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | I dont see the KVM Console tab this time
and the one time it showed up, when I clicked on it, and the screen opened and immediatley closed. I tried that repeatedly. now i'm not even sure how to get to there. :) | [11:09] |
| mercutio | ipmitool -L USER -I lanplus -H <ip> -U <user> -P <pass> sol activate
try that to access it where ip is the ip of the vpn thingy err through the vpn and user and pass is listed on same page as ip | [11:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | Invalid privilege level USER
ahh, and my error message doesn't show -I anything | [11:14] |
| mercutio | oh
i had to add -L USER in maybe you don't need it? | [11:15] |
| RandalSchwartz | when I remove -L USER, still balks at that -I | [11:16] |
| mercutio | different implementations are different :)
it doesn't liek -I ? | [11:16] |
| RandalSchwartz | oh I left out the IP | [11:16] |
| mercutio | -I intf Interface to use
wtf | [11:16] |
| RandalSchwartz | Not in my error message | [11:17] |
| mercutio | oh
it doesn't mean physical interface | [11:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | oooh... got this:
[SOL Session operational. Use ~? for help] | [11:17] |
| mercutio | sweet
you got it then | [11:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | and then what? | [11:17] |
| mercutio | now you just haev to make sure it's outputting to serial :)
so you didn't need to use -L USER? without it i get Set Session Privilege Level to ADMINISTRATOR failed: Unknown (0x80) | [11:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | I hit return and it said ProcessSOLUserInput - entered
ProcessSOLUserInput - read 1 chars no - didn't need the -L or -I -L level Remote session privilege level [default=ADMINISTRATOR] | [11:18] |
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| RandalSchwartz | is this supposed to show me something when it boots up? | [11:19] |
| mercutio | ok :)
yeah | [11:19] |
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| RandalSchwartz | how do I get the same view as the VNC console | [11:19] |
| mercutio | and while in system
you don't :) you setup your system for that use the web interface to do the beginning bits you're still struggling to get the web interface to go at all? | [11:19] |
| RandalSchwartz | I can see the console
but I can't interact with it | [11:21] |
| mercutio | with the web interface?
i didn't actually try typing anything into it i think :) | [11:22] |
| RandalSchwartz | Hmm. now I can't find it again. silly web interface
oh, the first thing was "preview" where am I supposed to be trying to type on the console? | [11:22] |
| mercutio | remote control
console redirection -> launch console | [11:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | I do that and nothing happens. | [11:27] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [11:27] |
| mercutio | does it open a popup? | [11:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | nope
nothing. nada. | [11:27] |
| mercutio | it should have a launch.jlp or something file | [11:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | "have", as in how? in the window? | [11:28] |
| mercutio | it trys to download it in chrome for me
then you click on it and it says it may harm your computer too :) | [11:28] |
| RandalSchwartz | oh maybe it doesn't work in safari | [11:28] |
| mercutio | then there's a black screen with some menus at top etc and you press a key
nah it should download the same i think look at the downloads? it's .jnlp but you could try chrome if it's not coming up with a download or a pop up | [11:28] |
| RandalSchwartz | ahh... chrome is better
I get launch.jnlp | [11:30] |
| mercutio | ok click on that | [11:30] |
| RandalSchwartz | but now I can't open it as it is from an unidentified developer | [11:30] |
| mercutio | turn off the unidentified developer crap?
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14369 | [11:30] |
| RandalSchwartz | now that doesn't open up. :) | [11:31] |
| mercutio | weird | [11:31] |
| RandalSchwartz | worked in chrome, not safari | [11:31] |
| mercutio | does your vpn try and default route ? | [11:31] |
| RandalSchwartz | I think this thing spooked safari :)
ok, reading that page, it's what I tried | [11:32] |
| mercutio | settings in security & privacy preferences allows you to run untrusted apps by default
which is probably good :) | [11:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | but there's no java setting to allow this now. apple removed it. | [11:33] |
| mercutio | unless you're into the mac app store.
it's the general os x blocking afaik android doesn't let you run untrusted apk's by default too which is annoying if you want to sideload something not from app store, like from a recent build or such | [11:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | yes... the "medium" setting is now gone. | [11:34] |
| mercutio | from what i can tell it's not the java setting that it's hitting but the normal unidentified developer thing? | [11:34] |
| RandalSchwartz | anyway, can't run it | [11:35] |
| mercutio | that's why i was saying you should disable normal os x blocking
which is under security & privacy preferences | [11:35] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm familiar with the other popup
this is specificially getting past that, and getting to a java exception | [11:35] |
| mercutio | oh | [11:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | java used to have three levels
now just two | [11:36] |
| mercutio | so now it's low and high? | [11:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | apple took away the bottom one for security reasons
yeah, just high and super-high | [11:36] |
| mercutio | ahh | [11:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | medium is ogne
gone | [11:36] |
| mercutio | damn
this sounds frustrating :) | [11:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | you're telling me | [11:36] |
| mercutio | do you have a windows vm? | [11:37] |
| RandalSchwartz | especially when up_the_irons said he was able to get it to work
no... nothing windows I want to watch him do it. I no longer believe I have the same tools as what he says is working | [11:37] |
| mercutio | he got it working on os x? | [11:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | and this is stopping two other important things
we need to upgrade openssh, and that's a core os thing so I need to get the machine to freebsd 8.4 patch 19 but I don't dare update the kernel without a console | [11:38] |
| mercutio | yeah | [11:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | and eventually, this machine needs to be freebsd 10
or 11 if we wait long enough :) | [11:39] |
| mercutio | it's 10.1 already i think | [11:39] |
| RandalSchwartz | well 8.4 is EOLed in a few months
so I have to get this machine up jun 2015 I think | [11:39] |
| mercutio | i prefer the hp lights out
on freebsd i have console="comconsole" but it's on a hp system in /boot/loader.conf but freebsd disables normal console when enablign serial that may have changed, but this is freebsd 9.2 | [11:40] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah - I don't have any console="" there
just zfs and a few tunings for postgres | [11:42] |
| mercutio | oh i still do have normal console
i dunno why i thought i didn't hp you can show text mode console withotu serial too :) just with ssh | [11:43] |
| brycec | mercutio: "comconsole vidconsole" should enable both, according to the links I shared earlier | [11:44] |
| mercutio | but yeah i'd try and get java workign first.
brycec: it seems i have both anyway? | [11:44] |
| brycec | brycec shrugs | [11:44] |
| mercutio | i really thought i didn't have both for some reason | [11:44] |
| brycec | brycec has no ipmi boxes | [11:44] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html | [11:45] |
| mercutio | i hate ipmi
but i like it too it's nice that there's a semi-standardised way for computers to get serial console etc. but i find just having ssh easier the recent hp stuff lets you stick your key on too | [11:46] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [11:48] |
| brycec | HP stuff has ssh-on-bmc/ipmi?
(Or are we talking about http://www.xenoclast.org/nca/ now? :p) | [11:48] |
| mercutio | yeah
dell and hp have had ssh for ages | [11:48] |
| brycec | cool | [11:49] |
| mercutio | it's dropbear
actually it's romsshell it seems with the dropping prices of nand etc, i wouldn't be surprised if there's proper embedded servers etc soon with automatic updates and the like | [11:49] |
| m0unds | saw some sandisk extreme ii 960GB disk for ~$499 usd | [11:54] |
| mercutio | wireless routers are already shifting to nand. nand has better wear leveling.
so doing updates all the time and treating them like a normal file system isn't so bad | [11:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | ugh... still have a bit of hangover, and it's noon already.
normally don't get hangovers, but drank some wine yesteray. | [12:06] |
| mercutio | wine can be special like that
white wine can give me headaches when normal alcohol doesn't | [12:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | pdx sky club doesn't have hard liquor | [12:07] |
| mercutio | even before the next day. | [12:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | just beer/wine | [12:07] |
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| hangover happily gone... replaced by a vodka/soda buzz. :) | [14:15] | |
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| acf_ | can anyone confirm Google's PMTU issue still exists?
it started for me long before anyone else.. | [19:22] |
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| mnathani | DNS Made Easy sent this to me back in 2010 : http://pastebin.com/UceGKXpP | [21:06] |
| mercutio | i like it when people notify of issues
but what made you suddenly bring this up from years bacK? amazon's outage? | [21:19] |
| mnathani | It came up in a discussion I had with someone regarding how folks generally dont like disclosing issues
I think you mean Azure's outage | [21:31] |
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| mercutio | cloudfront? | [22:21] |
| mnathani | nvm, I see the outage report now | [22:23] |
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| mercutio | so azure also had an outage today? | [22:43] |
| seems samsung 850 pros are down in cost now | [22:49] | |
| mnathani | Azure was like a week / 10 days ago: http://azure.microsoft.com/blog/2014/11/19/update-on-azure-storage-service-interruption/ | [22:55] |
| mercutio | are any big web sites hosted on them?
i didn't notice anything | [22:55] |
| mnathani | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/11/azure-went-down-and-people-actually-noticed/ | [22:55] |
| mercutio | i do half remember hearing about azure problems at some point though | [22:55] |
| BryceBot | Ars Technica: "Azure went down, and people actually noticed" | [22:55] |
| mercutio | wow people lost data in the azure thing | [22:57] |
| mnathani | One of the comments: "If you want to run a big portion of the Internet then you need to act like an infrastructure provider and not a desktop applications vendor. " | [23:07] |
| mercutio | haha | [23:11] |
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