#arpnetworks 2014-10-17,Fri

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zhangxiaobaodo we have a looking glass now? [01:29]
mercutio``yeah [01:33]
zhangxiaobaoso where is it? [01:39]
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zhangxiaobaoI'm sorry I had to leave to attend a meeting
is it public? the looking glass
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antzhangxiaobao: http://lg.arpnetworks.com/ [04:07]
zhangxiaobaothank you [04:08]
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mnathanithis whole 95th percentile method for bandwidth billing really has me confused
apparently not all ISPs calculate it the same way?
ie: max-of-total(in,out) vs in+out vs max-of-each-in/out-reading
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mhoranDoesn't surprise me. [17:06]
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brycecbrycec wonders who Spirit Communications si/are that ARP is directly peering with them [17:21]
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up_the_ironsjust another network that requested peering... about 2000 prefixes, so not too shaby [17:47]
mnathaniup_the_irons: was there ever a mention of appearing at AMS-IX via coresite and ARP Networks peering even further [17:48]
did the /30 come from ARP space or did they provide it? [17:55]
up_the_ironswhat /30? [17:57]
mnathanithings are different when a route server involved
?
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up_the_ironsi only vaguely remember something about coresite at AMS-IX
mnathani: we're actually on a shared /23
1 IP for each member
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mnathaniat any2 [17:58]
up_the_ironsya know, cuz it's many-to-many, not one-to-one (single link /30) [17:59]
mnathanicould you get paid transit through that setup or is it strictly peering [17:59]
up_the_ironsstrictly peering
CoreSite has a new-ish service where it is similar to Any2, but *is* designed for paid transit
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mnathanidoes insufficient bandwidth ever become an issue when you use their fabric to peer with multiple networks, assuming single gigE connection [18:04]
up_the_ironsno, never
we don't have enough traffic overall for it to matter
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brycecbrycec sets about to change that :D [18:09]
mnathaniI am currently reading: The 2014 Internet Peering Playbook: Connecting to the Core of the Internet
Not sure if an actual core exists any more though
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up_the_ironsbrycec: lol
stop plugging the tubes
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brycec(Not really though. I did that once before locally, clogging up mirrors.arpnetworks.com with about 1.1TB of bandwidth)
(but I wouldn't intentionally degrade service for other customers)
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up_the_ironsoh yeah i remember that ;) [18:13]
mnathanihere is the ams-ix / coresite article: https://ams-ix.net/newsitems/2 [18:14]
brycecup_the_irons: Fun times :D http://i.imgur.com/A6YyTWy.png [18:15]
up_the_ironsmnathani: oh that's pretty cool
brycec: m/
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mnathaniup_the_irons: here is a more recent one with a Chicago DC http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/10/07/ams-ix-adds-internet-exchange-at-cmes-chicago-data-center/ [18:18]
up_the_ironsi'll write my sales rep about that, see what is involved in getting hooked up to ams-ix [18:20]
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mnathanicool [18:35]
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mercutiooh, nice.
about ams-ix that is.
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BryceBotThat's what she said!! [19:17]
mercutioup_the_irons: did coresite ever get back about that outage? [19:17]
brycecBryceBot: no [19:18]
BryceBotOh, okay... I'm sorry. 'about ams-ix that is.' [19:18]
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mercutiomnathani: peering is a hugely complex issue
some locations tend to be better than others
so liek in the US, smewhere like say tampa tends to not have good peering nearby
and the edge locations tend to be overloaded more than more inner land ones.
like miami connects to south america, san jose to asia etc.
and in betwen places liek texas seem so have the best peering in general
also california seems to get a lot of cable cuts.
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