#arpnetworks 2014-01-28,Tue

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toddfindeed [00:01]
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mercutiokwas there another outage
oh looks local 		[00:30]
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m0undsyea, i can see a blip on my tunnel and vps' this morning at what looks like 0300
still see the one IP with a different route than another on the same box though, haha 		[06:38]
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hazardoushttp://i.imgur.com/39gygqq.png [08:11]
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brycecRolling ipv6 issue?
I've seen a few ARP persons' ipv6 IRC connections drop
but could just be FreeNode too 		[10:53]
antat least my nagios didn't notice anything [10:56]
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up_the_ironsbrycec: ant : i don't believe there are / were any IPv6 issues
!history smokeping
BryceBot: history
BryceBot: help me out here!
ah
https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=ARP.Upstream6
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antup_the_irons: i don't think so either
at least not arp related 		[13:23]
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bryceclol
brycec finds smokeping.cobryce.com very easy to remember :p
If smokeping.arpnetworks.com would be easier for you, I'll add it to nginx if you add the cname :p
up_the_irons: ^ 		[13:35]
anttoo bad my registrar dosn't allow me to register smokepi.ng ;) [13:37]
brycec@tld ng [13:37]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'ng' is used for: Nigeria. [13:37]
bryceclol
also up_the_irons and others, just added for your convenience
@smokeping 		[13:37]
BryceBothttps://smokeping.cobryce.com/ [13:37]
brycecup_the_irons: I agree, probably just a specific route or FreeNode node. [13:38]
toddfI still assert brycebot should have some form of crib command groupings accessable via a privmsg of 'help' ;-) [13:38]
brycecassertion failed :p
Someday I'll finish the documentation..
But it's way more fun to add new features than to document existing ones
brycec eyes the APRS stuff 		[13:38]
toddfso add a new feature that lets ordniary users privmsg new help text to brycebot and if you wish have brycebot ask you for approval of such text before making it live ;-)
like wiki + approval irc style 		[13:39]
brycecNot the worst idea I've heard [13:40]
up_the_irons@smokeping [13:49]
BryceBothttps://smokeping.cobryce.com/ [13:49]
up_the_ironslol awesome [13:49]
brycectoddf: https://github.com/brycied00d/BryceBot-Documentation
brycec goes back to doing what he gets paid to do 		[13:50]
toddfnice! [13:59]
hazardous@tld xxx [14:02]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'xxx' is used for: Adult entertainment. [14:02]
hazardousthe internet is for porn [14:02]
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mike-burnsIt's now for cats. [14:31]
twobithacker@tld cat [14:31]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'cat' is used for: Catalan. [14:31]
toddf@tld ms [14:34]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'ms' is used for: Montserrat. [14:35]
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up_the_irons@tld travel [14:58]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'travel' is used for: Travel related businesses. [14:58]
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mercutio@tld info [15:38]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'info' is used for: Unrestricted use. [15:38]
mercutioheh
i think .info is when things starting falling down 		[15:38]
brycecTaken straight from wikipedia *shrug* [15:38]
mercutio@tld arpa [15:40]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'arpa' is used for: Address and Routing Parameter Area. [15:40]
mercutiopretty cool [15:41]
brycecNah, cool is IDN stuff :p [15:41]
Yamazaki-kunif by "cool" you mean "wonderful for red-teaming" [15:41]
brycec@tld عمان. [15:42]
BryceBotThe Top Level Domain 'عمان.' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [15:42]
brycec@tld عمان [15:42]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'عمان' is used for: Oman (.om). [15:42]
Yamazaki-kunbecause let's face it, why else would you want https://www.pаypal.com/ ? [15:42]
mercutio@tld @ [15:42]
BryceBotThe Top Level Domain '@' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [15:42]
brycec@tld xn--zckzah [15:43]
BryceBotThe top-level domain 'xn--zckzah' is used for: tesuto (Japanese Test -- http://例え.テスト). [15:43]
up_the_ironsare there any non-ASCII tlds yet? [15:45]
brycecYes [15:45]
up_the_ironssweet [15:45]
Yamazaki-kun۔مسر
is one 		[15:46]
up_the_irons@tld cöm [15:46]
BryceBotThe Top Level Domain 'cöm' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [15:46]
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Yamazaki-kunعر، مصر
hm. 		[15:50]
phluxOk, now I do have to move on from Gentoo
This shit is getting ridiculous 		[15:50]
mercutioarch? [15:52]
brycecArch is a good step up from Gentoo, for those that love rolling releases :D [15:53]
mercutioi've started using arch for some personal machines now
coming from ubuntu
there are definitely some bonuses
but some things are still kind of confusing 		[15:53]
brycecI use Arch on all my desktops/laptops, definitely dig it. [15:54]
mercutionot that ubuntu doesn't make things confusing [15:54]
phluxI used to use Arch [15:54]
mercutiolike network setup
i using netctl now which makes more sense 		[15:54]
phluxI went from Arch to Gentoo actually [15:54]
bryceclol [15:54]
mercutiowhy's that phlux?
i used gentoo /years/ back
i hate compiling everything 		[15:54]
phluxI found that I was using Arch's ABS more than the binary packages [15:54]
mercutiocompiling a few things is ok [15:54]
phluxsooooooooooo Gentoo made sense.
but lately I've been getting some weird wifi issues that I can't solve, and I'm wondering if it's the Gentoo kernel. 		[15:54]
mercutiouse your own kernel? [15:55]
phluxYeah, I might [15:55]
mercutio3.13 is out now [15:55]
brycecvanilla-linux or whatever it was called [15:55]
mercutioi was using my own kernel with ubuntu too [15:56]
phluxI actually think the problem is with this shitty Belkin network extender [15:56]
mercutiooh [15:56]
phluxEvery time the microwave turns on, the thing shits the bed [15:56]
mercutio2.4 ghz? [15:56]
phluxThat being said, every device in the house can reconnect to it afterwards aside from the Gentoo laptop
yeah 		[15:56]
mercutioweird
yeah i dunno why microwaves and wifi both use 2.4ghz
does that mean that wifi will cook you? :) 		[15:56]
phluxIf I go in there and manually unplug the extender and reconnect it, I'll be fine [15:57]
mercutioi have never liked belkin
but it should reconnect 		[15:57]
phluxbut again, that doesn't explain why I ONLY have to do that for this one particular device when everything else reconnects [15:57]
brycecMaybe it doesn't realize it lost the connection? [15:58]
phluxbrycec: That's actually a good point
brycec: wpa_supplicant gives me REJECT notices.. 		[15:58]
brycecSo could be. AP has already rotated and the client is trying to use the old keys still. Try ifdown/ifup? [15:59]
phluxbrycec: Haven't tried ifdown/ifup, but I've killed wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd
but
That also doesn't explain why rebooting doesn't fix the problem
I've rebooted the laptop to try and reconnect and it still gets rejected
The only fix I've found is to pull the extender out of the wall and plug it back in. 		[16:00]
brycecAh then down/up probably won't help any. What's the adapter?
Yes. As does all forms of radiation... but the 2.2-2.5GHz is especially well suited to energizing H2O. 15:56:01 < mercutio> does that mean that wifi will cook you? :) 		[16:02]
phluxRTL8191SEvB
In other words, RealTek something or another 		[16:02]
brycecIn other words, PCI nd not really unplug/plug it back in ;p [16:03]
phluxbrycec: Haha, indeed
Well, at least I just realized that it's definitely the network extender 		[16:03]
brycecphlux: I assume you've tried cold rebooting? (completely power off) not just warm (ctrl-alt-delete) [16:04]
phluxso I can stick with Gentoo for a while longer, I guess
brycec: Honeslty, I've just done 'sudo reboot' :P 		[16:04]
brycecheh well probably worth a shot. Unless the wifi adapter is being completely reset, can't be 100% positive it's the extender. [16:05]
phluxbrycec: How would I go about fixing that issue if it /is/ the adapter's fault? [16:08]
brycec<.<
>.>
New adapter? 		[16:08]
phluxoh lawd
I hope not 		[16:08]
brycecSame goes for s/adapter/extender/ [16:08]
phluxI've never even popped this laptop open
yeah 		[16:08]
brycecOh it's a laptop? Better at least. When it comes to wifi, I think USB adapters are just simpler and easier these days. [16:09]
phluxwait
Really? 		[16:09]
brycecYes [16:09]
phluxUSB wifi?
I know the speeds on that crap used to blow
but I haven't used it in a long time 		[16:09]
brycecCorrect. $10 wifi dongle is a lot easier to move around, replace, etc than a PCI card. [16:10]
phluxGood point [16:10]
brycecheh nowadays, perfectly serviceable. Depends mostly on environment, but I've gotten 130mbps on some. [16:11]
mercutiolaptops usually use the case as an antenna [16:11]
brycecAnd USB + extension cable means you can put it where the signal is better :p [16:11]
mercutiousb wifi thus has much smaller antenna [16:11]
brycec(true) [16:11]
phluxinteresting [16:11]
mercutioso i'd advocate using a different wireless chip
you can get 802.11ac ones for about $45 USD on ebay i think
intel
you can get cheaper intel non ac ones
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-7260HMW-mini-PCI-E-Wireless-AC-Card-867Mbps-802-11ac-BT4-0-/331116183876?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item4d18100144
things like that
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Intel-7260-7260HMW-802-11ac-WiFi-ac-Bluetooth-4-0-Half-Mini-PCI-E-Card-/251333154635?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item3a849f974b
or that 		[16:11]
brycecheh yeah if you care about .ac bandwidth, stick to PCIe cards [16:13]
mercutioserach and all, the first one had really high shipping cost for me, and second one has free shipping..
well ing eneral the intel wireless is better 		[16:13]
m0undsi like arch a lot
i actually really like systemd too 		[16:13]
phluxwell [16:13]
brycecProbably. If you just care about basic wifi, I say stick with the $10 adapters. [16:13]
mercutioit's just if you are replacing, you may want to replace with something higher end [16:13]
phluxI might give a USB dongle a shot [16:14]
mercutioadapters suck [16:14]
m0undsthey make little mini usb dongles [16:14]
brycecphlux could try adding the dongle, see if it does better. Then decide if he wants to replace the builtin wifi [16:14]
m0undsthat look like those bluetooth ones that you get w/wireless mouse/keyboard sets [16:14]
phluxexactly [16:14]
m0undslow profile [16:14]
mercutiohttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-4965-4965AGN-wireless-WiFi-PCI-E-card-802-11N-AGN-/190422367955?pt=AU_Components&hash=item2c560ebed3 [16:14]
phluxat the very least it'll help me rule out some things [16:14]
brycechttp://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050108&p_id=8072&seq=1&format=2
$7.51 ^ 		[16:14]
m0undsyeah
exactly like that
haha 		[16:14]
mercutiocheap wireless n dual band [16:14]
brycecAnd so handy to have [16:14]
mercutiolike $6 USD
and you can put in your laptop rather than dongle
so use antennas
if there's dodgy wifi usb dongle isn't likely to be better? 		[16:14]
phluxmercutio: yeah, but it's less effort to find out if the real issue is my hardware or the network extender [16:16]
m0undsi bought a pair of linksys e3000s refurbed from amazon for like $25/ea and used them as cheap APs til i got my dual band ubiquiti stuff installed [16:16]
mercutioit's actually really easy to change a mini pci-e card normally
unless you have one of the few censoring laptops
uhh hp 		[16:16]
phluxLenovo here [16:17]
m0undsswapped the one in my wife's HP pretty easily
had a door on the bottom to do it
one screw 		[16:17]
mercutiowhat iwrles is it atm?
m0unds: you have to be careful what card to stick in hp's 		[16:17]
m0undsit got an OEM replacement for the one that died [16:18]
mercutioit's not changing it that's hard, if your card isn't on the whitelist, then you need to bios mod to make it work [16:18]
m0unds1:1 [16:18]
mercutiomy hp laptop has intel already
and goes ok 		[16:18]
m0undshers was the same one you linked, it died, i bought another one from ebay that was pulled from another hp notebook [16:19]
mercutiobut i think they alternate between intel and atheros or something
m0unds: ahh ok 		[16:19]
m0undsthat worked fine til she got a macbook [16:19]
mercutiothe intel wireless is pretty solid [16:19]
m0undsyea [16:19]
mercutioi think i have something old like that too
there's in between with 6250 ertc 		[16:19]
m0undsunlicensed bands are really badly overutilized in urban areas [16:19]
staticsafeintel drivers are solid on linux too
iwlwifi <33333333333333333333 		[16:19]
m0undsMIMO stuff isn't helping matters [16:19]
mercutioi get over 10 gigabit on network :/
i don't want to use wifi
wifi is fine for internet
it's when you want to drag files betwen machines it gets painful 		[16:20]
staticsafeindeed [16:23]
m0undswhaaaat...
duke nukem 3d "just updated with online deathmatch and co-op" 		[16:26]
staticsafehm i need of those wireless PCI cards but for desktops
one* 		[16:28]
mercutioi used to like blood
it was like duke nukem 3d but better 		[16:33]
m0undseh, i liked dn3d and shadow warrior better than blood
played the hell out of all three
you can get the opengl enabled versions of shadow warrior and dn3d for $5.99 on steam right now 		[16:35]
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mnathani@tld local [17:01]
BryceBotThe Top Level Domain 'local' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [17:01]
mnathani@tld bonjour [17:01]
BryceBotThe Top Level Domain 'bonjour' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [17:01]
mnathani@tld msdns [17:01]
BryceBotThe Top Level Domain 'msdns' doesn't seem to exist (yet). [17:01]
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Yamazaki-kunAnyone done much with Dragonfly? Is HAMMER as awesome as it sounds?
(and does it work with << 4GB?) 		[17:52]
m0undsnope, haven't tried it [17:55]
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up_the_ironsYamazaki-kun: HAMMER? [17:59]
Yamazaki-kunDragonfly-specific filesystem
kinda ZFS/btrfs-y
only real problem with ZFS is low-memory performance sucks, and I use "low memory" as if I were an HPC admin.
on a 1G or 2G VM? fugghedaboutit 		[18:00]
up_the_ironshahaha
yeah ZFS on low mem is terrible
so Dragonfly made their own filesystem, eh? that's very progressive of them. 		[18:07]
Yamazaki-kunmy home FS does that... had a 2x Xeon 5300 board off Ebay to upgrade so I could get more RAM and the thing didn't see any RAM at all
:(
32GB of PC2-5300F sticks waiting for a board that they like
because there's no such thing as overkill.
also I can run OmniOS and have file server + VM server in one. 		[18:08]
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wtf? 		[18:46]
jbergstroemup_the_irons: HAMMER has been around for 5 years or so.. longer than btrfs if I recall correctly [18:48]
Yamazaki-kunokay, it doesn't. Dang, I seriously need to sign up for the documentation team and make use of my red pen. [18:49]
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brycecIntroduced July 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAMMER [18:56]
BryceBotHAMMER :: HAMMER is a high-availability 64-bit file system developed by Matthew Dillon for DragonFly BSD using B-trees. Its major features include infinite NFS-exportable snapshots, master-multislave operation, configurable history retention, fsckless-mount, and checksums to deal with data corruption. HAMMER also supports data block deduplication — identical data blocks will only be stored once on a file system. A port of HAMMER... [18:56]
milkiinfinite! [19:01]
Yamazaki-kunjust discovered make package-recursive
looks like win 		[19:09]
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