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| toddf | indeed | [00:01] | |
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| mercutio | kwas there another outage
oh looks local | [00:30] | |
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| m0unds | yea, i can see a blip on my tunnel and vps' this morning at what looks like 0300
still see the one IP with a different route than another on the same box though, haha | [06:38] | |
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| brycec | Rolling ipv6 issue?
I've seen a few ARP persons' ipv6 IRC connections drop but could just be FreeNode too | [10:53] | |
| ant | at least my nagios didn't notice anything | [10:56] | |
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| up_the_irons | brycec: ant : i don't believe there are / were any IPv6 issues
!history smokeping BryceBot: history BryceBot: help me out here! ah https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?target=ARP.Upstream6 | [13:14] | |
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| ant | up_the_irons: i don't think so either
at least not arp related | [13:23] | |
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| brycec | lol
brycec finds smokeping.cobryce.com very easy to remember :p If smokeping.arpnetworks.com would be easier for you, I'll add it to nginx if you add the cname :p up_the_irons: ^ | [13:35] | |
| ant | too bad my registrar dosn't allow me to register smokepi.ng ;) | [13:37] | |
| brycec | @tld ng | [13:37] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'ng' is used for: Nigeria. | [13:37] | |
| brycec | lol
also up_the_irons and others, just added for your convenience @smokeping | [13:37] | |
| BryceBot | https://smokeping.cobryce.com/ | [13:37] | |
| brycec | up_the_irons: I agree, probably just a specific route or FreeNode node. | [13:38] | |
| toddf | I still assert brycebot should have some form of crib command groupings accessable via a privmsg of 'help' ;-) | [13:38] | |
| brycec | assertion failed :p
Someday I'll finish the documentation.. But it's way more fun to add new features than to document existing ones brycec eyes the APRS stuff | [13:38] | |
| toddf | so add a new feature that lets ordniary users privmsg new help text to brycebot and if you wish have brycebot ask you for approval of such text before making it live ;-)
like wiki + approval irc style | [13:39] | |
| brycec | Not the worst idea I've heard | [13:40] | |
| up_the_irons | @smokeping | [13:49] | |
| BryceBot | https://smokeping.cobryce.com/ | [13:49] | |
| up_the_irons | lol awesome | [13:49] | |
| brycec | toddf: https://github.com/brycied00d/BryceBot-Documentation
brycec goes back to doing what he gets paid to do | [13:50] | |
| toddf | nice! | [13:59] | |
| hazardous | @tld xxx | [14:02] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'xxx' is used for: Adult entertainment. | [14:02] | |
| hazardous | the internet is for porn | [14:02] | |
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| mike-burns | It's now for cats. | [14:31] | |
| twobithacker | @tld cat | [14:31] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'cat' is used for: Catalan. | [14:31] | |
| toddf | @tld ms | [14:34] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'ms' is used for: Montserrat. | [14:35] | |
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| up_the_irons | @tld travel | [14:58] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'travel' is used for: Travel related businesses. | [14:58] | |
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| mercutio | @tld info | [15:38] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'info' is used for: Unrestricted use. | [15:38] | |
| mercutio | heh
i think .info is when things starting falling down | [15:38] | |
| brycec | Taken straight from wikipedia *shrug* | [15:38] | |
| mercutio | @tld arpa | [15:40] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'arpa' is used for: Address and Routing Parameter Area. | [15:40] | |
| mercutio | pretty cool | [15:41] | |
| brycec | Nah, cool is IDN stuff :p | [15:41] | |
| Yamazaki-kun | if by "cool" you mean "wonderful for red-teaming" | [15:41] | |
| brycec | @tld عمان. | [15:42] | |
| BryceBot | The Top Level Domain 'عمان.' doesn't seem to exist (yet). | [15:42] | |
| brycec | @tld عمان | [15:42] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'عمان' is used for: Oman (.om). | [15:42] | |
| Yamazaki-kun | because let's face it, why else would you want https://www.pаypal.com/ ? | [15:42] | |
| mercutio | @tld @ | [15:42] | |
| BryceBot | The Top Level Domain '@' doesn't seem to exist (yet). | [15:42] | |
| brycec | @tld xn--zckzah | [15:43] | |
| BryceBot | The top-level domain 'xn--zckzah' is used for: tesuto (Japanese Test -- http://例え.テスト). | [15:43] | |
| up_the_irons | are there any non-ASCII tlds yet? | [15:45] | |
| brycec | Yes | [15:45] | |
| up_the_irons | sweet | [15:45] | |
| Yamazaki-kun | ۔مسر
is one | [15:46] | |
| up_the_irons | @tld cöm | [15:46] | |
| BryceBot | The Top Level Domain 'cöm' doesn't seem to exist (yet). | [15:46] | |
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| Yamazaki-kun | عر، مصر
hm. | [15:50] | |
| phlux | Ok, now I do have to move on from Gentoo
This shit is getting ridiculous | [15:50] | |
| mercutio | arch? | [15:52] | |
| brycec | Arch is a good step up from Gentoo, for those that love rolling releases :D | [15:53] | |
| mercutio | i've started using arch for some personal machines now
coming from ubuntu there are definitely some bonuses but some things are still kind of confusing | [15:53] | |
| brycec | I use Arch on all my desktops/laptops, definitely dig it. | [15:54] | |
| mercutio | not that ubuntu doesn't make things confusing | [15:54] | |
| phlux | I used to use Arch | [15:54] | |
| mercutio | like network setup
i using netctl now which makes more sense | [15:54] | |
| phlux | I went from Arch to Gentoo actually | [15:54] | |
| brycec | lol | [15:54] | |
| mercutio | why's that phlux?
i used gentoo /years/ back i hate compiling everything | [15:54] | |
| phlux | I found that I was using Arch's ABS more than the binary packages | [15:54] | |
| mercutio | compiling a few things is ok | [15:54] | |
| phlux | sooooooooooo Gentoo made sense.
but lately I've been getting some weird wifi issues that I can't solve, and I'm wondering if it's the Gentoo kernel. | [15:54] | |
| mercutio | use your own kernel? | [15:55] | |
| phlux | Yeah, I might | [15:55] | |
| mercutio | 3.13 is out now | [15:55] | |
| brycec | vanilla-linux or whatever it was called | [15:55] | |
| mercutio | i was using my own kernel with ubuntu too | [15:56] | |
| phlux | I actually think the problem is with this shitty Belkin network extender | [15:56] | |
| mercutio | oh | [15:56] | |
| phlux | Every time the microwave turns on, the thing shits the bed | [15:56] | |
| mercutio | 2.4 ghz? | [15:56] | |
| phlux | That being said, every device in the house can reconnect to it afterwards aside from the Gentoo laptop
yeah | [15:56] | |
| mercutio | weird
yeah i dunno why microwaves and wifi both use 2.4ghz does that mean that wifi will cook you? :) | [15:56] | |
| phlux | If I go in there and manually unplug the extender and reconnect it, I'll be fine | [15:57] | |
| mercutio | i have never liked belkin
but it should reconnect | [15:57] | |
| phlux | but again, that doesn't explain why I ONLY have to do that for this one particular device when everything else reconnects | [15:57] | |
| brycec | Maybe it doesn't realize it lost the connection? | [15:58] | |
| phlux | brycec: That's actually a good point
brycec: wpa_supplicant gives me REJECT notices.. | [15:58] | |
| brycec | So could be. AP has already rotated and the client is trying to use the old keys still. Try ifdown/ifup? | [15:59] | |
| phlux | brycec: Haven't tried ifdown/ifup, but I've killed wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd
but That also doesn't explain why rebooting doesn't fix the problem I've rebooted the laptop to try and reconnect and it still gets rejected The only fix I've found is to pull the extender out of the wall and plug it back in. | [16:00] | |
| brycec | Ah then down/up probably won't help any. What's the adapter?
Yes. As does all forms of radiation... but the 2.2-2.5GHz is especially well suited to energizing H2O. 15:56:01 < mercutio> does that mean that wifi will cook you? :) | [16:02] | |
| phlux | RTL8191SEvB
In other words, RealTek something or another | [16:02] | |
| brycec | In other words, PCI nd not really unplug/plug it back in ;p | [16:03] | |
| phlux | brycec: Haha, indeed
Well, at least I just realized that it's definitely the network extender | [16:03] | |
| brycec | phlux: I assume you've tried cold rebooting? (completely power off) not just warm (ctrl-alt-delete) | [16:04] | |
| phlux | so I can stick with Gentoo for a while longer, I guess
brycec: Honeslty, I've just done 'sudo reboot' :P | [16:04] | |
| brycec | heh well probably worth a shot. Unless the wifi adapter is being completely reset, can't be 100% positive it's the extender. | [16:05] | |
| phlux | brycec: How would I go about fixing that issue if it /is/ the adapter's fault? | [16:08] | |
| brycec | <.<
>.> New adapter? | [16:08] | |
| phlux | oh lawd
I hope not | [16:08] | |
| brycec | Same goes for s/adapter/extender/ | [16:08] | |
| phlux | I've never even popped this laptop open
yeah | [16:08] | |
| brycec | Oh it's a laptop? Better at least. When it comes to wifi, I think USB adapters are just simpler and easier these days. | [16:09] | |
| phlux | wait
Really? | [16:09] | |
| brycec | Yes | [16:09] | |
| phlux | USB wifi?
I know the speeds on that crap used to blow but I haven't used it in a long time | [16:09] | |
| brycec | Correct. $10 wifi dongle is a lot easier to move around, replace, etc than a PCI card. | [16:10] | |
| phlux | Good point | [16:10] | |
| brycec | heh nowadays, perfectly serviceable. Depends mostly on environment, but I've gotten 130mbps on some. | [16:11] | |
| mercutio | laptops usually use the case as an antenna | [16:11] | |
| brycec | And USB + extension cable means you can put it where the signal is better :p | [16:11] | |
| mercutio | usb wifi thus has much smaller antenna | [16:11] | |
| brycec | (true) | [16:11] | |
| phlux | interesting | [16:11] | |
| mercutio | so i'd advocate using a different wireless chip
you can get 802.11ac ones for about $45 USD on ebay i think intel you can get cheaper intel non ac ones
things like that http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Intel-7260-7260HMW-802-11ac-WiFi-ac-Bluetooth-4-0-Half-Mini-PCI-E-Card-/251333154635?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item3a849f974b or that | [16:11] | |
| brycec | heh yeah if you care about .ac bandwidth, stick to PCIe cards | [16:13] | |
| mercutio | serach and all, the first one had really high shipping cost for me, and second one has free shipping..
well ing eneral the intel wireless is better | [16:13] | |
| m0unds | i like arch a lot
i actually really like systemd too | [16:13] | |
| phlux | well | [16:13] | |
| brycec | Probably. If you just care about basic wifi, I say stick with the $10 adapters. | [16:13] | |
| mercutio | it's just if you are replacing, you may want to replace with something higher end | [16:13] | |
| phlux | I might give a USB dongle a shot | [16:14] | |
| mercutio | adapters suck | [16:14] | |
| m0unds | they make little mini usb dongles | [16:14] | |
| brycec | phlux could try adding the dongle, see if it does better. Then decide if he wants to replace the builtin wifi | [16:14] | |
| m0unds | that look like those bluetooth ones that you get w/wireless mouse/keyboard sets | [16:14] | |
| phlux | exactly | [16:14] | |
| m0unds | low profile | [16:14] | |
| mercutio | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-4965-4965AGN-wireless-WiFi-PCI-E-card-802-11N-AGN-/190422367955?pt=AU_Components&hash=item2c560ebed3 | [16:14] | |
| phlux | at the very least it'll help me rule out some things | [16:14] | |
| brycec | http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050108&p_id=8072&seq=1&format=2
$7.51 ^ | [16:14] | |
| m0unds | yeah
exactly like that haha | [16:14] | |
| mercutio | cheap wireless n dual band | [16:14] | |
| brycec | And so handy to have | [16:14] | |
| mercutio | like $6 USD
and you can put in your laptop rather than dongle so use antennas if there's dodgy wifi usb dongle isn't likely to be better? | [16:14] | |
| phlux | mercutio: yeah, but it's less effort to find out if the real issue is my hardware or the network extender | [16:16] | |
| m0unds | i bought a pair of linksys e3000s refurbed from amazon for like $25/ea and used them as cheap APs til i got my dual band ubiquiti stuff installed | [16:16] | |
| mercutio | it's actually really easy to change a mini pci-e card normally
unless you have one of the few censoring laptops uhh hp | [16:16] | |
| phlux | Lenovo here | [16:17] | |
| m0unds | swapped the one in my wife's HP pretty easily
had a door on the bottom to do it one screw | [16:17] | |
| mercutio | what iwrles is it atm?
m0unds: you have to be careful what card to stick in hp's | [16:17] | |
| m0unds | it got an OEM replacement for the one that died | [16:18] | |
| mercutio | it's not changing it that's hard, if your card isn't on the whitelist, then you need to bios mod to make it work | [16:18] | |
| m0unds | 1:1 | [16:18] | |
| mercutio | my hp laptop has intel already
and goes ok | [16:18] | |
| m0unds | hers was the same one you linked, it died, i bought another one from ebay that was pulled from another hp notebook | [16:19] | |
| mercutio | but i think they alternate between intel and atheros or something
m0unds: ahh ok | [16:19] | |
| m0unds | that worked fine til she got a macbook | [16:19] | |
| mercutio | the intel wireless is pretty solid | [16:19] | |
| m0unds | yea | [16:19] | |
| mercutio | i think i have something old like that too
there's in between with 6250 ertc | [16:19] | |
| m0unds | unlicensed bands are really badly overutilized in urban areas | [16:19] | |
| staticsafe | intel drivers are solid on linux too
iwlwifi <33333333333333333333 | [16:19] | |
| m0unds | MIMO stuff isn't helping matters | [16:19] | |
| mercutio | i get over 10 gigabit on network :/
i don't want to use wifi wifi is fine for internet it's when you want to drag files betwen machines it gets painful | [16:20] | |
| staticsafe | indeed | [16:23] | |
| m0unds | whaaaat...
duke nukem 3d "just updated with online deathmatch and co-op" | [16:26] | |
| staticsafe | hm i need of those wireless PCI cards but for desktops
one* | [16:28] | |
| mercutio | i used to like blood
it was like duke nukem 3d but better | [16:33] | |
| m0unds | eh, i liked dn3d and shadow warrior better than blood
played the hell out of all three you can get the opengl enabled versions of shadow warrior and dn3d for $5.99 on steam right now | [16:35] | |
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| mnathani | @tld local | [17:01] | |
| BryceBot | The Top Level Domain 'local' doesn't seem to exist (yet). | [17:01] | |
| mnathani | @tld bonjour | [17:01] | |
| BryceBot | The Top Level Domain 'bonjour' doesn't seem to exist (yet). | [17:01] | |
| mnathani | @tld msdns | [17:01] | |
| BryceBot | The Top Level Domain 'msdns' doesn't seem to exist (yet). | [17:01] | |
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| Yamazaki-kun | Anyone done much with Dragonfly? Is HAMMER as awesome as it sounds?
(and does it work with << 4GB?) | [17:52] | |
| m0unds | nope, haven't tried it | [17:55] | |
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| up_the_irons | Yamazaki-kun: HAMMER? | [17:59] | |
| Yamazaki-kun | Dragonfly-specific filesystem
kinda ZFS/btrfs-y only real problem with ZFS is low-memory performance sucks, and I use "low memory" as if I were an HPC admin. on a 1G or 2G VM? fugghedaboutit | [18:00] | |
| up_the_irons | hahaha
yeah ZFS on low mem is terrible so Dragonfly made their own filesystem, eh? that's very progressive of them. | [18:07] | |
| Yamazaki-kun | my home FS does that... had a 2x Xeon 5300 board off Ebay to upgrade so I could get more RAM and the thing didn't see any RAM at all
:( 32GB of PC2-5300F sticks waiting for a board that they like because there's no such thing as overkill. also I can run OmniOS and have file server + VM server in one. | [18:08] | |
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| ... and DTrace requires a kernel rebuild?
wtf? | [18:46] | ||
| jbergstroem | up_the_irons: HAMMER has been around for 5 years or so.. longer than btrfs if I recall correctly | [18:48] | |
| Yamazaki-kun | okay, it doesn't. Dang, I seriously need to sign up for the documentation team and make use of my red pen. | [18:49] | |
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| brycec | Introduced July 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAMMER | [18:56] | |
| BryceBot | HAMMER :: HAMMER is a high-availability 64-bit file system developed by Matthew Dillon for DragonFly BSD using B-trees. Its major features include infinite NFS-exportable snapshots, master-multislave operation, configurable history retention, fsckless-mount, and checksums to deal with data corruption. HAMMER also supports data block deduplication — identical data blocks will only be stored once on a file system. A port of HAMMER... | [18:56] | |
| milki | infinite! | [19:01] | |
| Yamazaki-kun | just discovered make package-recursive
looks like win | [19:09] | |
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