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| toddf | anybody have multiple vps'es and notice network disconnects lately?
aka I have 4 vps'es .. 2 are able to talk to the v4 gateway, 2 are able to talk to the v6 gateway .. I'm going to guess something changed between 22:30 yesterday and 01:32 today based on my logs | [10:38] |
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| jlgaddis | this probably isn't gonna paste right...
01:06:222014-01-15MenuhopDOWNCRITICAL - 174.136.107.10: rta nan, lost 100% meh 0506-0533 utc (today), looks like our monitoring system couldn't hit that vps oh wait, ignore that. that was on the 15th. jlgaddis blames the prescription drugs | [11:11] |
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| jpalmer | for what it's worth, one of mine seemed to be unavailable for about 45 minutes last night.
wait, wrong provider. my ARP vps's seem fine I guess I'll have to blame it on my non-prescription drugs? lol | [11:39] |
| brycec | lol | [11:41] |
| jpalmer | ahh, it wa a digitalocean vps that was unavailable. | [11:41] |
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| m0unds | i've had some weird intermittent disconnects
never enough to trigger monitoring err, trigger notification | [12:04] |
| toddf | I think this was a maintenance that went wrong for my vlan only, if nobody else has issues
{0,2,3,5}.v.freedaemon.com .. all are reachable via one address family, prior to last night, all were reachable via both address families | [12:09] |
| m0unds | huh. | [12:12] |
| toddf | ;-)
and of course the ones that are only on v6 can't reach the ones that are only on v4 so my vlan is effectively two network segments | [12:12] |
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| m0unds | there's one of the blips i mentioned, haha | [12:39] |
| brycec | 12:19:46 ::: m0unds [~m0unds@2607:f2f8:af18:2::e] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] | [12:41] |
| m0unds | yep | [12:45] |
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| toddf | I love sprunge!
http://sprunge.us/jDea | [15:31] |
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| hazardous | i have to admit
sprunge sounds like something you'd see in a porno :V | [16:16] |
| brycec | lol, also not easy to remember (or so I find)
which is why the company's private clone of sprunge is simply {company}pastebin.domain.com oh my bad, pastebin.domain.com | [16:17] |
| m0unds | my buddy made an erlang webapp that passes stuff via zsh to the pastebin attached to the webapp
also handles url shortening and image fetch/shortening - so if you paste an image url into irc, it'll retrieve the image, store it temporarily on s3 and serve it via shortened url | [16:26] |
| brycec | "webapp that passes stuff via zsh" that sounds pretty damn risky :/ | [16:30] |
| staticsafe | ^ | [16:31] |
| mike-burns | That totally sounds like an Erl Web app. | [16:44] |
| m0unds | uses an API key and stuff
m0unds isn't a programmer and doesn't know how that shit works | [16:51] |
| staticsafe | heh | [16:52] |
| m0unds | but i do know you can pipe output from commands (top -m io etc) and have it display as text | [16:52] |
| up_the_irons | https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/427969490203066369 | [17:02] |
| BryceBot | TWITTER: We will be performing an emergency reboot of our IPv6 router at 19:00 PST tonight (Tue Jan 28 01:00:52 +0000 2014, retweeted 1 times) | [17:02] |
| brycec | "emergency" and scheduled rarely go together :p
@twitter -r 427969490203066369 | [17:07] |
| BryceBot | brycec: Successfully retweeted arpnetworks (427970979109691392): We will be performing an emergency reboot of our IPv6 router at 19:00 PST tonight (Tue Jan 28 01:00:52 +0000 2014, retweeted 3 times) | [17:07] |
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| brycec | wow, earlier reboot than expected! :P | [17:08] |
| up_the_irons | well, it's like in 2 hours...
pretty close IMO :) | [17:11] |
| brycec | up_the_irons: just a reboot? or upgrade too? | [17:19] |
| up_the_irons | just reboot
it needs a 2nd interface from our s7.lax router | [17:19] |
| brycec | When does ARP get a redundant IPv6 router?
ah | [17:20] |
| up_the_irons | yeah no immediately plans for 2nd IPv6 router | [17:20] |
| brycec | Get a cheap, used DL380 or similar, a little CARP action and BAM | [17:20] |
| up_the_irons | if it were that easy, it would have happened already
:) actually, s7.lax can do full IPv6 in hardware but the configuration dance and playing nice with existing OpenBSD IPv6 router, that is the hard part | [17:21] |
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| mercutio | brycec: s/380/360/
but carp complicates matters often non redundant solutions can be more reliable with decent hardware | [18:36] |
| brycec | heh
My experience with redundant routers extends to pfSense Which was really pretty simple | [18:38] |
| mercutio | you can get into lots of partial failure situations
like when there were router issues the other night, that was partial failure rather than full failure | [18:38] |
| brycec | heh I did have a bit of split-master fun today. But prior to that... :p | [18:39] |
| mercutio | you have to think about things like comlpexity of debugging
like if you have an ethernet card giving issues, in a redundant situation, which one is it but yeah, if was to have a cheap secondary router, a dl360 is 1u, dl380 2u and shouldn't need more than 1u they both can do dual cpu etc, not that openbsd makes use of that | [18:39] |
| brycec | I just pulled an HP DLxxx number out of my butt as an example of something that's cheap and readily available. | [18:44] |
| mercutio | ahh right | [18:45] |
| m0unds | notification gave me advanced warning to move my tunnel stuff over to my bigger vps
haha | [18:45] |
| brycec | s/bigger/non-ARP/ | [18:45] |
| BryceBot | <m0unds> notification gave me advanced warning to move my tunnel stuff over to my non-ARP vps | [18:45] |
| brycec | I assume | [18:45] |
| m0unds | no | [18:45] |
| brycec | s/as/pre/ | [18:45] |
| BryceBot | <brycec> I presume | [18:45] |
| m0unds | bigger being bigger at arp | [18:45] |
| mercutio | i think arp is using supermicro normally?
which have much more confusing model numbers :) | [18:45] |
| m0unds | i planned on doing it around when it was gonna get rebooted | [18:46] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: does that mean ipv6 is going to be gigabit? | [18:51] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: if you're already on gigabit ports, ummm.. yeah i think it might actually (haven't really even thought about that) | [18:52] |
| m0unds | hahaha | [18:52] |
| mercutio | i was just curious more than antyhing
i still see ipv6 as being beta'ish | [18:53] |
| brycec | "second class" | [18:53] |
| mercutio | yeah it's a bad attitude to have in some ways, because the more people who think that way the more it becomes that way | [18:53] |
| brycec | heh
The native IPv6 was a big reason I moved to ARP A little sad that it doesn't get the same love as v4 | [18:54] |
| mercutio | it was secondary reason for me
i was tunneling with he.net prior | [18:54] |
| m0unds | until more eyeball networks support ipv6, i don't really care one way or another | [18:55] |
| mercutio | but i got over ipv6 :)
it doesnt' really help having ipv6 support when the situations it'd be useful don't have ipv6 | [18:55] |
| m0unds | yea
and in a lot of cases, it can break stuff for client devices | [18:55] |
| mercutio | like with ipv6 and static ip, you'd be able to remote desktop into someone's computer if they oppened it up
but it's easier to talk smoeone through doing a port forward then setting up ipv6 even if their provider supports it | [18:56] |
| m0unds | yeah
can't imagine having to tell someone an ipv6 addr over the phone or something | [18:56] |
| mercutio | haha
yeah that's one of the current issues with ipv6 should every user host their own dns? | [18:56] |
| m0unds | then the differing implementations at the cpe sucks too | [18:57] |
| mercutio | as soon as you have all these ip addresses, and want to do dns, things get tricky
on legacy ipv4 connections there's susually just a single or a few ip's to give a name to and try running a mail server without reverse dns... | [18:57] |
| m0unds | yeah | [18:58] |
| mercutio | and i don't think most isp's have user-modifiable dns
actually arp did hah i dunno about ipv6, but with ipv4 you can easily change your reverse lookup but try doing that on a normal net connection... | [18:58] |
| m0unds | yea, you can w/arp, but i've found i don't always get an rdns when i query an ipv6 addr | [18:59] |
| mercutio | fortunately, with most isp's you can email a request for reverse dns | [18:59] |
| m0unds | as long as you have a static ip alloc, yeah | [18:59] |
| mercutio | does arp let you set reverse dns? | [18:59] |
| m0unds | i have rdns on mine
yeah | [18:59] |
| mercutio | err for ipv6 | [19:00] |
| staticsafe | yes | [19:00] |
| m0unds | yes
2607:f2f8:af18:2::1 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.0.8.1.f.a.8.f.2.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa domain name pointer lax-gwy.m0unds.net. | [19:00] |
| mercutio | heh cool | [19:00] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: i'm trying not to treat IPv6 as "beta-ish"; first class IPv6 has been a goal of mine since the beginning; but traffic levels used to be so low it was hard to prioritize
brb | [19:00] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: well that's good to hear, now get evyrone else onboard :)
oh so ipv6 is down now? not that i was using it normally, was just curious if facebook has reverse dns oh right it's just on 19:00 PST isn't it :) | [19:01] |
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| m0unds | yup | [19:04] |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: yup 19:00 :)
it's back up now | [19:04] |
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| up_the_irons | sucking down the bgp routes | [19:04] |
| mercutio | routing not getting anywhere
but gateway responds ahh ok openbgpd is slow at loading route tables i've noitced at least ipv6 is small | [19:04] |
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| staticsafe | heh just rerouted IRC services over the v4 VPN link temp | [19:05] |
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| mercutio | hmm routing still getting nowhere | [19:05] |
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| mercutio | oh facebook works
ahh kame.net works now too wow facebook has reverse dns | [19:06] |
| staticsafe | BGP is slow eh | [19:06] |
| mercutio | on all of their hops! even their routers
so do ntt www.kame.net don't for the web server itself google only have web server with reverse dns, none of their routers | [19:06] |
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| staticsafe | |- scruffy.entropynet.net[46X] -------------- | Users: 7
server didn't even netsplit :) | [19:09] |
| up_the_irons | didn't seem like i lost connection either | [19:09] |
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| brycec | <.<
that seemed short/quick | [19:10] |
| m0unds | yep | [19:15] |
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| jlgaddis | that's what she said | [20:45] |
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| up_the_irons | lol | [22:00] |
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| toddf | I've had more outages with my tunnelbroker.net tunnel than with arpnetworks | [22:43] |
| mercutio | he.net? | [22:48] |
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| brycec | One in the same | [23:24] |
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