#arpnetworks 2013-01-15,Tue

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up_the_ironsHappy Tuesday
man, the 15th already?! it'll be christmas again before we know it...
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brycecWooo Tuesday! Wait, what's so special about Tuesday? [13:26]
mike-burnsTuesday's coming, did you bring your coat? [13:37]
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toothI live in a giant bucket [14:13]
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mercutiostaticsafe: did you just post to outages@? :) [17:59]
staticsafemercutio: i did [17:59]
mercutioheh
small world
that cable's been out for 5 days apparently :/
i'd noticed high pings to singapore
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staticsafeindeed [18:00]
mercutiobut thought it was probably blizzard's fault [18:00]
staticsafeA repair ship, the ASEAN Explorer is set to arrive on the fault site on February 7, with an estimated resolution date of February 11. [18:00]
mercutioyeh
i read that
its' a very long time
some isp's are routing a VERY long way around it
some are routing via HK/Japan
some are more like "let's jump to the US and back again"
[18:00]
staticsafeindeed [18:01]
mercutiobut
how did you know about it?
it's hardly been in any news
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staticsafesomeone talked about it in #linode [18:01]
mercutiooh
from nz or au?
[18:01]
staticsafenz [18:02]
mercutioheh
apaprently the biggest isp here is having 2 hour emali delays because of it
which is pathetic
[18:02]
staticsafeoutsourcing e-mail indeed [18:04]
mercutioyeh
running at 80%+ load? :)
i don't find outages list that useful
it's hard to really know when random things go down
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staticsafeaye [18:07]
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up_the_ironsdamn, #linode has 424 users in their channel
up_the_irons tells everyone to get their friends in here :)
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meingtslaFeels like their population's declined a bit [18:48]
up_the_ironsthis channel has had some drop off lately too
yet business still grows, so not sure what is up...
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mercutiothis channel has been dead
i dunno, i'd say it's cos it's summer
but most people it's winter for
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up_the_ironsit's winter here :) [18:49]
jbergstroemisn't irc most often the result of having to much time? :)
(or needing 0day help)
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up_the_ironshah
i definitely don't have too much time, but i still like irc :)
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mercutiojbergstroem: lots of people just idle a lot [18:57]
mnathaniAnyone know what a low cost option is for getting an SSL cert that validates with a Green Bar in browsers like IE [18:57]
mercutiogreen bar?
i know namecheap are cheap for ssl certs, but have no idea about this green bar thing
facebook has no green bar
in ie
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mnathanisomething like http://www.itdonut.co.uk/sites/default/files/firefox_ie_green_bar.jpg [18:57]
brycecI think that's a "verified" cert or something
relatively new
er, validated
represents that the CA has doen super-extensive validation abd background checks
One option (and some more information) http://www.startssl.com/?app=30
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mnathaniPaypal and the like have it
brycec: thanks
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brycec(I've used StartSSL's free cert with no probs)
np mnathani
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mercutiohttp://postimage.org/image/j1hzly045/
oh paypal
no it doesn't
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brycecPaypal: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2013-01-15_20-00-36.png
(in the latest chrome-dev)
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mercutioweird mine doesn't
oh
i thought we were talking about ie
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mnathanitry IE [19:01]
brycecversus regular facebook https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2013-01-15_20-00-56.png [19:01]
mercutiook in chrome it shows green
so paypal green bar in chrome but not ie
i should check facebook in chrome
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mnathanidoes the startssl free cert work without installing a trusted root authority in the OS? [19:01]
brycecrecent veresion of IE?
mnathani: yes
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mercutionah
facebook has green https
but no green bar
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brycecmnathani: which is why startssl > cacert.org [19:02]
mercutioit's ie 10 i think [19:02]
brycecWell no explaining why the EV isn't showing for you mercutio *shrug* [19:02]
mercutioi can't say i normally use ie
http://postimage.org/image/s4s5wc0t3/full/
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brycecI _never_ use it
ewwww Win8
Let's just blame it on Win8
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mercutiowindows 8 is the new standard
as much as it may pain you to hear that
it's no worse than vista
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brycecmy standard is Linux, so there :P [19:04]
mercutioyeh well i like openbsd
but yeah openbsd is even worse than linux for video card support
apparently now days you're meant to use intel onboard video if you want open source drivers
i thought ati were ok, but that was in 5000 days, in 7000 days limited support
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mnathanibrycec: how long are the startssl certs valid? I got this message when registering: You will be able to use this verification for the next 30 days, after which it expires and must be renewed. [19:07]
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brycecmnathani: 1yr as I recall
think that's just for signing up
(been awhile)
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mnathaniyup, just installed and verified [19:30]
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mnathaniit pays to idle in here :-) [19:30]
brycecheh [19:30]
mnathaniand I was going to go with a namecheap low cost ssl cert [19:31]
up_the_ironsIt Pays to Idle in Here(tm), tell your friends
;)
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brycecbrycec leans back and waits for the referal cheques to come flying in [19:38]
milkilol [19:39]
mnathaniWhat do you guys use for cloud based Email? I used to use the free version of Google Apps, but they have since discontinued that version. [19:51]
mercutiowhat's PST?
compared to GMT?
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mnathaniGMT - 8:00 if I am not mistaken [19:52]
mercutiook
so it's 7:53 pm pst atm?
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brycecyes mercutio [19:53]
mnathanihttps://www.google.com/search?q=time+in+california&oq=time+in+california&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 [19:53]
mercutiooh i didn't think of that [19:54]
mnathanibut yes [19:54]
mercutioi googled PST TO GMT
and it didn't work
mph to kmh works :/
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brycecmnathani: I use GApps (still). Don't know what I would use if setting up a completely new domain. (or I would just alias the domain to an existing GApps) [19:54]
mercutioi saw the twitter thing about 9 pm pst coresite making changes thing
not that it proably maeks much diff
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mnathaniI went down the road of trying alternatives like Office365 and their Exchange Online, not free but lacking so many features that I took for granted with Google Apps
Another thing that bothers me is that I am so used to Gmail / Google App style conversation email that anything else just does not work.
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bryceclol [19:57]
mnathaniNot to mention other goodies like labels, filters, the ability to send using different from accounts via the respective SMTP servers from within gmail [19:57]
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mnathaniHow does one get quick screenshot links using Dropbox ? [22:18]
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milkihiccup! [22:41]
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brycecmnathani: I wrote a script, it looks something like this https://gist.github.com/3741684
brycec updates the gist
now it looks exactly like that
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milkioo, i see the twitter post account the maintenance now
>.>
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mercutiomilki: the one in PST? [23:31]
milkimilki nods
9pm-2am
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mercutioyou never know it may go bette :) [23:32]
milki2 more hours! [23:32]
mercutioi'm weary when people talk about enhancements :) [23:32]
milkihehe [23:32]
mercutiothings seem normal atm [23:32]

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