#arpnetworks 2013-01-02,Wed

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up_the_ironsSF if fucking cold [00:36]
mike-burnsThe weather has been miserable every time I've been to SF. [00:40]
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anti was to sf once. nice sunny day, warm, no fog. in the middle of march 2012. must have been really lucky [01:02]
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mikeputnamwhere can a midwest family of 5 move to in CA and not have heart attacks over the cost of living?
oh and never see snow?
yesterday temp here? 7F/-13C
this is getting old
spent new years eve shoveling my ROOF
oh and 2400sq ft of house for $150k
that ought to do it
mikeputnam assumes he could get a sub-lease rental of a tent someones yard in Mountain View for $150k
(per month probably)
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mike-burnsI hear Spain is cheap and warm. [07:38]
brycecheh
mikeputnam: Does it have to be CA? Or you just looking for someplace warmer?
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mikeputnami do like san jose/SF area, but no CA not required
los angeles seems nice and temperate
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brycecJust a bit east is Arizona. Far cheaper, less congested, and no earthquakes (or other natural disasters)
source: I'm sitting here now
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kraigubrycec: yeah, but no hockey teams! [08:35]
bryceckraigu: ? Phoenix Coyotes
not that hockey is very big in the US anyways
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kraigubrycec: er
oh, right. duh.
it was Atlanta who relocated.
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brycecWe've had plenty of strikes and such, but the team is still here (for now) [08:36]
kraiguI understand it's mostly Canadian ex-pats who attend the games. [08:37]
brycecheh [08:37]
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dr_jklhmm.
#%!$ing openbsd
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hm. [10:21]
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up_the_ironsmikeputnam: 2400 sq ft of house for 150K is a dream in SoCal. I don't think that would be possible anywhere around Los Angeles. [12:14]
dr_jklyawn
morning up_the_irons
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mikeputnamup_the_irons: ;) [12:14]
up_the_ironsmornin'! [12:15]
dr_jklup_the_irons: i did something stupid [12:15]
up_the_ironsactually, just turned 'noon [12:15]
dr_jkldo you know that when you tell your host to mount an iso for you, you should be _really really sure_ you gave them the right one? [12:15]
up_the_ironsyep [12:15]
dr_jkli gave you a 5.2 snapshot iso, and today when i went to install shit
nothing worked
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up_the_ironsthat's why i make people give me the url :) [12:16]
dr_jkland i was like AAGGH WHY
so this
< dr_jkl> #%!$ing openbsd
and my support request
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up_the_ironssaw that :) [12:16]
dr_jklare related
lol
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up_the_ironsi'm about to head out.. do u want a quick iso change?
dr_jkl: ^^
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dr_jklyes
i made a ticket
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up_the_ironsk
dr_jkl: done
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dr_jklthx
go go gadget reinstall
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up_the_irons:)
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staticsafeim tempted to replace FreeBSD with Gentoo on mine heh [12:26]
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mercutioi used a snapshot of openbsd before [12:27]
dr_jkli wonder why openbsd's partition scheme is the way it is [12:29]
CaZeI left the default OpenBSD iso as it is. [12:30]
dr_jklwith 20 gig disks it means some of those partitions are awful small
i tend to just make a / mount
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CaZeIf I ever blow away the boot loader again, I can just run the installer for any iso, just past the point where it installs the bootloader. [12:32]
brycecthat sounds painful staticsafe [12:32]
CaZe(after formatting, before unpacking the sets) [12:32]
staticsafebrycec: not really, i run Gentoo on my desktop at home [12:32]
CaZeYou could also just use the installer shell to fetch any bsd.rd image. [12:35]
mercutiodr_jkl: you don't have to partition it the suggested way
dr_jkl: most hard-disks are /way/ bigger than they need to be these days
even ssds are bigger than 20gig
on my vm i just have / and swap too
[12:40]
brycecstaticsafe: I've had really, really terrible experiences running Gentoo in production environments (which I kindof assume VPS' are)
Much as I <3 rolling release (I'm an Arch guy at home), it doesn't work well when it comes to "don't break shit"
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CaZeI've got / and /home. No swap.
(I only have 7 GB)
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dr_jkli have / and swap
i was going to have it rebuilt by now but i had to go into the dc for $dayjob lol
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dzup5 i won!
can you guys share a man about insides of freebsd for this evening? am bored :(
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staticsafehmm? [15:00]
brycecI can share man pages, sure [15:01]
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mikeputnam5
mikeputnam fail
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brycecmikeputnam -= 5; [19:40]
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arenlorup_the_irons: You around? [20:12]
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mnathaniwhat time is the D-root name server IPv6 address change expected today? [22:40]
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brycecbrycec was unaware of such a change coming
mnathani: ipv6 is staying the same, ipv4 address is changing. No time given. http://d.root-servers.org/renumber.html
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mnathanibrycec: right, the ipv4 address is changing [23:44]

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