#arpnetworks 2012-03-14,Wed

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plettzeshoem: In the global routing table, I would not expect anything longer than /48 to work reliably
zeshoem: Most people who do filter, do so down to /48 on ranges for PI allocations, but much shorter on PA since ISPs all get at least /32s and shouldn't need to deaggregate down too small
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up_the_ironsjdoe: mhoran zeshoem : I'm seeing networks trim it at /48's [12:18]
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mhoranInteresting. [12:25]
plettup_the_irons: For IPs from PA allocation ranges? [12:39]
up_the_ironsplett: pretty much across the board
ISPs may de-aggregate for many reasons, even with IPv6. like if I open up an east coast wing, then I'll have to break up some of my /32 and announce it there
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mhoran*when ;) [12:47]
up_the_ironsLOL [12:47]
CaZeDude, I would totally go for an east coast data center. [12:48]
up_the_ironsthat's a big revenue line hitting feature
means i should focus on it ;)
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plettI'm in RIPE region, and I think I recall reading that they would rather allocate a second /32 than have us de-aggregate our existing /32
I have yet to try that in practice though
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up_the_ironsbut there are a LOT of dependencies too it, and i'll be focusing on those in the 3rd and 4th quarters of this year
plett: oh, interesting
if i could get another /32 to a 2nd location ,that would be sick
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plettup_the_irons: Yeah. The next 7 /32s after our current one are reserved for our use if we need them [12:49]
up_the_ironsyeah, i found the case to be the same with ARIN (just looking at neighboring ranges; i have not verified if that was actual policy) [12:50]
plettIf/when RIPE get to the end of their allocations, they'll go back and allocate new LIRs /32s half way between, so there is still a contiguous block of 4 /32s we could use [12:50]
up_the_irons/32's are spaced out with 7x in between
right
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plettSo far we only announce v6 from one city, so haven't needed to do anything clever with it [12:52]
toothwhat's this? east coast arp? ;-) [12:53]
plettEast-coast would be perfect for me, it would move my VPS about 40ms closer to me :) [12:53]
up_the_ironsyeah, we only announce our /32 from LA [12:55]
plettYou'd need good east coast remote-hands to handle hardware faults and racking up new equipment. You wouldn't want to be jumping on a plane every time a disk needs replacing [12:55]
up_the_ironsyeah, lots of people want an east coast facility, but it is way hard / expensive to implement in practice
yeah exactly
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toothinvent teleportals.
problem solved.
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pletttooth: That solves the problem of needing an east coast data centre at all. Just run a fibre through the portal and you're instantly 0ms away from the other end ;) [12:59]
up_the_ironsright :) [12:59]
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jdoemmm portals. [13:43]
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