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| jlgaddis | up_the_irons: do you still honor the "EVIL" code? | [00:36] |
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| up_the_irons | jlgaddis: sure | [03:08] |
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| jlgaddis | probably gonna write an article over the weekend about my stats yesterday (72,567 total page views, normal average is ~2,000) and how well my vps/nginx held up. =)
so if nothing else maybe you'll get a new customer or two out of it. seems like you usually do whenever i write something about arp. really fucking impressed w/ nginx. several months ago, i decided to try it out when apache shit itself at waaaaaay lower levels. | [06:06] |
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| up_the_irons | jlgaddis: awesome, tnx!
yeah, nginx is pretty fast | [06:40] |
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| up_the_irons | up_the_irons wanders off | [06:41] |
| tooth | tooth plays exiting type music | [06:44] |
| mike-burns | Oop, you know what the music means. | [06:47] |
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| pjs | jlgaddis is it static html or serving something behind nginx? | [11:51] |
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| jlgaddis | it's wordpress, so php
i use a caching plugin though the first time $page is requested, it generates .html and .html.gz versions of the page. on subsequent requests for $page, it'll serve those up instead, as long as the cached version hasn't expired also, all the static stuff (images, .css, .js, etc) is served up by amazon cloudfront | [12:33] |
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| pjs | gotcha | [13:06] |
| jdoe | wp-supercache or whatever | [13:08] |
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| up_the_irons | don't ask for an android charger at LA RubyConf
i got weird looks then i asked for USB Type B cable (the regular standard charging cable) weird looks again up_the_irons is bored | [13:35] |
| jdoe | I really, really need to find a new job. There are currently 5 people in a remote office working on the problem of "Is a machine powered on" for me :/ | [13:39] |
| up_the_irons | LOL
jdoe: what do u do? | [13:39] |
| mike-burns | mike-burns looks at up_the_irons weirdly. | [13:40] |
| tooth | jdoe, hilarious.
cue "how many admins does it take to find a power switch" joke | [13:41] |
| jdoe | up_the_irons: I'm a sysadmin. | [13:43] |
| jlgaddis | up_the_irons: they're ruby devs, what do you expect besides blank stares? :P | [13:44] |
| jdoe | up_the_irons: the remote office is in buttfuck nowhere, has no useful technical staff, and has poor infrastructure (flaky power/internet) -- so naturally I've been tasked with replacing their POTS system with voip.
kill me now. | [13:44] |
| tooth | jdoe, I am sending you a package which you should open right away. do not pay any attention to the ticking. | [13:45] |
| jdoe | problem solved.
root cause: several of my coworkers can't distinguish betwen a 1U that's on and a 1U that's off. taking the rest of the day off with a bottle of JD. | [13:54] |
| up_the_irons | jlgaddis: LOL
jdoe: hah do i need to bring out my x serve pic again? | [14:01] |
| jdoe | sure. What is it? | [14:01] |
| up_the_irons | looking.. my netbook is slow... | [14:04] |
| jdoe | my only (recent) server room wtf is http://falseprophet.ca/~jdoe/fusing.jpg ... not pictured: the door that opens (literally into) that rickety table, that it was just sitting there for a long time, etc. etc.
can't find the "THESE WALLS ARE ASBESTOS, LEAVE THEM ALONE signs, next to giant holes knocked in the walls" picture :/ | [14:06] |
| up_the_irons | http://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/2174345059/in/photostream
omg jdoe: what the F is that thing?? | [14:06] |
| jdoe | dunno what the proper name for it is, I've always heard them called fusing cabinets.
I believe in that case it's linking local stuff to CA*net (internet2 if you prefer) | [14:08] |
| up_the_irons | jdoe: crazy
I just opened up 3 slots for 4GB beefy VPS', thinking of running a special at $89, or even $79 each; only three left, first to get 'em gets 'em! i wonder how much 8GB sticks of FB-DIMMs are... up_the_irons googles | [14:13] |
| jdoe | not THAT bad. | [14:19] |
| up_the_irons | if anyone cares, I have almost 900GB of FB-DIMMs in my whole cluster, all Corsair. Only 1 stick has failed. So, go Corsair! | [14:19] |
| jdoe | haha.
jdoe stabs the fuck out of whatever silicon mechanics ships | [14:20] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [14:20] |
| jdoe | we've had a *lot* of that go bad. | [14:20] |
| up_the_irons | jdoe: o'rly? | [14:20] |
| jdoe | yeah. I think I've replaced at least one stick from every machine.
though it's not quite as bad as whatever's in the HP blade server. | [14:20] |
| up_the_irons | oh wait, excuse me, not Corsair. Crucial!
i always get that mixed up | [14:20] |
| jdoe | I do like crucial. | [14:20] |
| up_the_irons | been quite reliable | [14:22] |
| jdoe | I dunno, I've never had problems with desktop ram the way I do with whatever's in these boxes. | [14:29] |
| up_the_irons | haha | [14:41] |
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| jpalmer | in my entire life, I've ordered a shitton of ram for myself and customers. I've found "crucial" to be good RAM. and in that time, only 1 stick needed to be returned. and even better, their RMA process was painless. they overnighted the cross-shipment. | [15:35] |
| up_the_irons | wow nice | [15:45] |
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| ninor | yea good point
quality ram matters i wonder what arpnetworks buys | [16:24] |
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| jpalmer | ninor: up_the_irons just said they buy crucial
up_the_irons == garry == owner | [16:29] |
| ninor | oh
i used to use corsair was really nice. but that was years ago silicon mechanics? i used to use their servers too they're only a few miles from where my datacenter was er sorry, they're up here in Seattle | [16:42] |
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| mhoran | Yeah I've had good luck with Crucial too.
Had Corsair as well. No issues. I really haven't had any RAM issues. So I'm a bad sample. | [17:19] |
| jpalmer | jpalmer just re-enabled IPv6 on his VPS. didn't configure it when I installed CentOS6. | [17:25] |
| jdoe | centos :|
ninor: I have nothing against SM. I suspect our woes are environmental and/or bad luck. | [17:39] |
| ninor | jdoe, oh i didn't even read anything. did you have a bad experience with some gear from there?
mhoran, would we even KNOW if we got bad ram? i mean i wonder, how fragile is our data? speaking generally there's bit rot on disk/disc, and in ram if shit goes sideways, how does that manifest? | [17:44] |
| jpalmer | depends on the level of "bad" but you'd see data corruption, odd behaviors, lockups, and possibly even "random" reboots. | [17:45] |
| jdoe | you very probably wouldn't see any of that since it's all ECC ram... | [17:46] |
| ninor | i wonder if there's any way to put safety checks in operational data in the way zfs does for persisted data
yea but i mean, if you were to put checking for 'this' into software, what would that look like? | [17:46] |
| jdoe | unless a stick dies, the only person who's likely to know is up_the_irons, and only because he's going to get log spam. | [17:47] |
| jpalmer | jdoe: *if* it's ECC ram, correct. but not all ram is ECC ram :P | [17:47] |
| jdoe | no, but basically everything in a server you spent more than $20 on is. | [17:47] |
| ninor | im not even talking about arp
i'm speaking generally, in computing | [17:47] |
| jpalmer | oh oh, in the context of ARP, and our vps's? No.. we'd never probably know. | [17:47] |
| ninor | k i must be doing something wrong here. | [17:48] |
| jdoe | right. | [17:48] |
| jpalmer | ninor: *generally* if it's non-ECC, you'd likely see what I mentioned above. | [17:48] |
| ninor | k well sorry | [17:48] |
| jdoe | YOU SHOULD BE >:|
haha. | [17:48] |
| ninor | k and what would a software layer do to manage that
and overlay it to build in resilience | [17:48] |
| jdoe | nothing.
because you can't trust the software layer. | [17:48] |
| ninor | *sigh* | [17:48] |
| jdoe | since it's running out of ram :P | [17:48] |
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| jpalmer | software would have a hard time dealing with faulty RAM in any sane way. | [17:49] |
| jdoe | lol
wasn't expecting that. | [17:49] |
| jpalmer | jpalmer gets the impression that ninor was a little uptight.. | [17:49] |
| jdoe | seems so. | [17:50] |
| jpalmer | ahh well. /me goes back to editing the maps at waze.com | [17:50] |
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