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| DDevine | kbeezie: You get thousands of IPs for free with IPv6. | [01:15] |
| kbeezie | :P true true
but sometimes you jsut need another IPv4 since not everyone has an IPv6 tunnel (SSL certs and what not for browsers that don't have SNI compatibility) | [01:15] |
| DDevine | I can't move ISP, because this is the only ISP in Australia that has dual stack.
So I'm getting raped price-wise by this ISP. I don't want a tunnel. | [01:16] |
| kbeezie | lol | [01:17] |
| DDevine | Though with money the way it is, I may have to... | [01:17] |
| kbeezie | I don't know any ISP here in michgian (US) that has dual stack other than for businesses
but least at home I use the free IPv6 tunnel with he.net was eyeing arpnetwork due to KVM and cuz I want to run freebsd, I just signed up for bitcable's 256MB (8/month) kvm plan just to see how they are before I consider just using arpnetworks I'd run it myself, but can't do freebsd on openvz | [01:17] |
| DDevine | I'm just running Linux on mine. | [01:19] |
| G | DDevine: have internode turned super expensive? | [01:31] |
| kbeezie | DDevine: well if I wanted to run linux I'd just use my own VPS hosting I do :D | [01:41] |
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| DDevine | G: yes. They raised prices and slashed download limits.
At least on Naked. kbeezie: I needed full virtualisation, that's why I moved off OpenVZ. Though I don't need that anymore, I stay here because it is so hassle free. | [02:41] |
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| G | DDevine: ha, just looked at the pricing, Naked is more expensive than ADSL+Phone | [02:56] |
| DDevine | No it isn't. It's almost the same price though. | [03:00] |
| G | 200GB $79.95 Naked, $79.90 Bundled, sure it's 5cents, but every cent counts :P | [03:01] |
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| Devine | Actually, you're right, but it depends what you're comparing.
acutlly, those crafty buggers have updated the plans without emailing me. | [03:05] |
| G | Devine: they put your price up without telling you? | [03:07] |
| Devine | yes and no. | [03:07] |
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| Devine | Were probably going to be sharing with people again soon so price won't be as big of an issue. | [03:12] |
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| kbeezie | Devine: sharing?
Devine: btw what were you needing full virtualization for in the past? | [03:46] |
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| kbeezie | wb Devine | [03:48] |
| Devine | house | [03:56] |
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| Devine | Lol @ twitter. | [04:41] |
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| kbeezie | eh
you having network problems devine ? | [05:02] |
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| devine | kbeezie: I don't know why, but I am. | [05:47] |
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| kbeezie | curious what country of origin most of the arpnetwork staff are from | [12:38] |
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| kbeezie | whats' a typical turn around time after ordering (course taking into consideration it is sunday) | [15:06] |
| Guest98663 | kbeezie: usually one business day | [15:19] |
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| kbeezie | :P I'd thank the guest for their answer if they didn't scurry away :D
:P nice, got an email saying it'll be ready in 5 mins :D | [15:25] |
| jpalmer | kbeezie: that guest was me. ;)
irc client wigged out and I didn't notice it when I answered you | [15:32] |
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| kbeezie | well least arp understand security
the first host I had that doesnt allow root ssh login by default | [15:50] |
| jpalmer | that's probably more a difference between linux and BSD. most linux distros allow root ssh by default. most BSD's don't | [15:52] |
| kbeezie | true
last time I used FreeBSD was when I had a dedicated server (and I missed FreeBSD when I had to cancel that) yesterday I signed up for Bitcable , course they didn't have freebsd iso so had to get it, no templates, you install yourself, etc got their 8/month 256MB one to try out, but course it was 10mbit uplink as well (they don't tell you on the site, just that their 'nodes' have 1 gbit) so figured, might as well try arp, so far they seem to be the better deal but it's nice to find a VPS host aside from rootBSD that actually understands BSD setups | [15:53] |
| jpalmer | I think arp caters to BSD. though, linux is an option ;) | [15:57] |
| kbeezie | my fustration started when I signed up with turnkey cuz they advertized FreeBSD 8.2 with the 75% off for life sale, only to find out their version of Xen-HVM is not compatible and that they never had anyone ask for FreeBSD before | [15:58] |
| jpalmer | jpalmer is a 20 year BSD admin. 2 years ago, I took a job with a linux-centric shop (ubuntu at the time, now RHEL) and don't have any BSD machines left that I directly maintain. | [15:59] |
| kbeezie | all my customers are linux :/
I provide openvz VPSes, (hence you can see the reason for no BSD) noticed they had 8.1 at arp, but I get a message that 8.2-Release is gona be end of life in 2 months :P time to be updatin :D | [16:01] |
| jpalmer | you can ask ARP to mount any ISO image you want.. or you can freebsd-update / build world | [16:11] |
| kbeezie | well right now I'm attempting to do a -r upgrade to 8.2-Release
mainly letting it replace everything except for the hosts settings arp installed debating 9.0-RC3 though since it wont be long before they release. release :D but yea got that email, logged in, setup passwords, created a new user, deleted the other one, yada yada :D and it's fast... | [16:17] |
| jpalmer | for a VPS, ARP seems to have some of the best disk IO I've seen. | [16:23] |
| kbeezie | they're using raid-10 arent they? | [16:25] |
| jpalmer | I'd suspect. but don't know for sure. | [16:28] |
| kbeezie | :P guess the only thing better would be SSD and Raid10 :D | [16:29] |
| jpalmer | meh. SSD.. nowhere near as reliable as magentic disks yet. I'll take the reliability over the speed any day ;)
besides, if they used SSD.. your prices would skyrocket :P | [16:30] |
| kbeezie | odd didn't consider SSD being less reliable (ie: solid state vs moveing/degratting platters)
unless course certain SSDs can fail after so many 'flips' I wonder how many 'cores' I can utilize I know the boxes are said to be dual-quad ahh single core "hw.ncpu: 1" , QUEMU virtual "You may order additional CPU cores for $2.00 USD" seems like 2 would normally be a good starter... | [16:31] |
| jpalmer | jpalmer hasn't been unhappy with 1. so, seems to me that.. it's a decent start.
keep in mind, just because the vps only see's one, doesn't mean the underlying hypervisor can't allocate more as needed. | [16:39] |
| kbeezie | we shall see :D just doing updates and portsnap fetching at the moment
though normally nginx will take advatange of mroe than 1 core if it's present (ie: if I use 2 workers on 2 cores) | [16:39] |
| jpalmer: ... I thought KVM dind't use a "hypervisor" | [16:49] | |
| jpalmer | s/hypervisor/platform/ I'm a vmware guy, myself. | [16:54] |
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| kbeezie | jpalmer: ... compiling ports is slow on 1 core...
slower than the cheapie 2-core 256mb one over at bitcable | [19:01] |
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| DDevine | I've noticed that some things are ususually slow for reasons I can't figure out. pip/virtualenv is sluggish. | [19:12] |
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