#arpnetworks 2011-11-29,Tue

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raptelanup_the_irons: not much of a seamless upgrade as it only has room for one more host in the vlan! [07:02]
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meingtslaHmph. I upgrade from Debian 5 to Debian 6 and find myself unable to boot the kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 that comes with it, but I can still boot the old kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64 :E Wonder what changed. [11:00]
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vaporlots
best bet would be a reinstall of debian 6 and start fresh
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meingtslaWell, I have a sysresccd in my CD drive with linux-3.0.8 and linux-3.1.0. Neither of those will boot either. And I don't seem to have a way to scroll up the boot log to see what's causing the kernel to throw up in any of these cases. [11:47]
vaporim not sure an apt-get upgrade/update from 5 to 6 will go through without error
you might just want to install fresh from 6
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meingtslaThat would involve a disk change. I guess I could put in for that, but just trying to find another way to get around this in the meantime [11:52]
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up_the_ironsraptelan: i can just expand the IP block though, which is what i've always done so far (never had to renumber a customer). so they just change their subnet mask.
there is always 61 ppl here
why can't i break 70?? ;)
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RandalSchwartzyou could break 70 into 35 + 35 :) [13:32]
up_the_ironsoh no u didn't [13:33]
RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz is on-site at Paypal in San Jose
big talk on git, 150 people attending
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up_the_ironsnice! [13:33]
RandalSchwartzand murmurs of further consulting
maybe I should specialize in git now
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up_the_ironsyeah [13:34]
jpalmerjpalmer is proposing "puppet" for the Ascendos infrastructure. [13:47]
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mhorangit is so hot right now. [14:42]
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up_the_ironsfor all of us in the US: http://americancensorship.org/
if you haven't done so already, make a couple quick calls
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pjsup_the_irons, I've been making a few calls a day :) [18:26]
up_the_ironspjs: nice :) [18:27]
does anyone have a Cisco ASA that can verify whether it supports SAML 1.1 in it's webvpn ?
if you do
conf t
webvpn
sso-server test-saml type saml-v1.1-post
see if that works
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mhoranup_the_irons: Scary. :( [19:00]
up_the_ironsmhoran: srsly [19:01]
mhoranAnd it's so obvious that nobody voting on this bill understands how the Internet works. [19:01]
up_the_ironsyeah absolutely
it's madening
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mhoranI wonder what would happen if something like this actually went through. Would a new Internet be created? Small, private ISPs or something? Seems possible in big cities via WiMax, but I'm ont sure about across the country. Or around the world. [19:02]
up_the_ironswe gotta get more support for peer-to-peer dns
dns is still a critical spof that governments can tap and "lights out" a site
mhoran: yeah, smaller internets, perhaps
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jpalmeris there a peer-to-peer dns proposal/RFC? [19:04]
up_the_ironsjpalmer: i thought i saw some work on that a while back [19:04]
jpalmerjpalmer isn't quite sure how that would work.. but would be interested in reading up. [19:05]
mhoranYeah. [19:05]
up_the_ironsperhaps similar to how networks / bgp work... announcements (domain names?) propagate to peers. if you don't have a domain name in your "domain table" (analagous to routing table), the resolution request goes to the default resolver (analagous to default route) [19:07]
jpalmerI think the security aspects are what would concern me the most. but I do know there was a secure DNS movement using the same concepts as bitcoin.. [19:07]
up_the_ironstotally thinking out loud... [19:07]
mhoranAnd the biggest thing that pisses me off here is that this isn't going to stop any of the offenders -- who will just bypass this whole blocking system. It's going to hurt mom and dad. [19:07]
up_the_ironstrue dat [19:07]
jpalmermhoran: exactly. [19:07]
mhoran... who I had to spend two hours teaching how to use Netflix on their TV over the weekend. [19:08]
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