#arpnetworks 2011-11-10,Thu

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wolandhi guys
any network problems this morning?
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arenlorGuy pops in, asks a question about network issues, then disappears, little creepy. [02:33]
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pansexualkinda mysteriously [02:58]
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wolandhi [03:16]
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arenlorHello
Here's a tip, if you write a bash script that simply runs the program 'beep' in an infinite loop, there is no way to make it stop.
I would be QUITE happy if someone could prove me wrong and tell me how to make the damn beep stop without having to reboot.
[03:40]
mike-burns^z, kill %1 [03:43]
arenlorIt just leaves the beep running constantly.
Seems it's not using alsa, off to discover what else may make sound, maybe pulse.
I mean, if I needed to make an emergency system test, this would work for the beep.
Ah, modprobe -r pcspkr did it ^_^' that was annoying
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wolandanyone using rhel/centos/scientific on an arpnetworks vm?
i keep getting python/glibc errors at random points in the install
(usually after formatting the disk!)
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arenlorCare to pastebin anything?
Also, doesn't up_the_irons usually install it for you?
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wolandi'd love to, unfortunately i cannot. it looks like... http://kb.parallels.com/4611
no
i maintain my own
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arenlorwoland: That's a really odd error to get. I'm assuming that it's a custom ISO? [03:56]
wolandnope. standard netinstall
seems specific to kvm tho
then when i finally get through the install
yum behaves the same every now and then
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arenlorI'm thinking bad ISO. [04:00]
wolandchksum's confirmed
centos behaves the same
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arenlorIt seems to think that the code behind something is bad. [04:02]
wolandspent too long looking at it now, i've requested gary replace the iso with something more common amongst the user base [04:03]
mike-burnsYou're going to love FreeBSD. [04:03]
arenlor^_^
Well if he wants Linux he'll probably enjoy Debian.
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wolandhaha
my other vps is openbsd
and the mpbios thing is bad enough heh
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arenlorDoes anyone know if there a site you can order one off bumper stickers from?
If not I may have to sign up for cafepress
"My other VPS is $DISTRO" stickers.
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woland:o [04:07]
arenlorYeah, the nerd in me really gets out when it's near bedtime, something about losing all ability to self-censor. [04:09]
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rentersnetwork issues? [05:25]
mike-burnsNone reported. [05:25]
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richardquisumbinany network problems today? i got 2 downtimes around 3 and 4 EST [14:11]
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up_the_ironsrichardquisumbin: i got a page around 11:30AM about GTT transit issue (one of our main transits); it recovered in about 5 mins [14:20]
richardquisumbinthanks, just wanted to know [14:21]
up_the_ironsno problem [14:21]
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up_the_ironsFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU..............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
up_the_irons is dealing with Rackspace
they are wound SO TIGHT with regards to IPs
I need just 3 more IPs, and they go apeshit
</rant>
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RandalSchwartzwell - we're out of v4, you know [15:00]
up_the_ironsstill, they really make it difficult even *with* justification [15:01]
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jlgaddisheh, i have a request in to arin right now for a /21 [15:29]
up_the_ironsdang
good luck with that ;)
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jlgaddisyeah, fingers are crossed. gonna screw this project if i can't get it. [15:30]
up_the_ironsyour project needs that many IPs? ;) [15:33]
jlgaddiswireless isp [15:35]
up_the_ironsah [15:35]
jlgaddisthey're using rfc1918 space for their customers now, which is mostly okay, but they're single homed and doing nat
but just signed a 300 mbps commit w/ level 3 so i've got to make them multihomed
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up_the_ironsyeah [15:36]
jlgaddis(level 3 not being their primary sp now, of course)
they're at ~1500 customers now, so 75% of the /21 would be used up immediately if we gave 'em all a public ip
my thinking, though, is to continue to assign rfc1918 addresses except for people who specifically want a public ip
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up_the_ironsyeah, ARIN will probably be like, "if rfc1918 is working now, why switch them to public IPs?" [15:38]
jlgaddisright, we've already got the ASN though, and we *need* PI space to multihome. that's our big argument.
s/our/their/, i'm just doing it for them really
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up_the_ironsyeah [15:42]
jlgaddismaybe i can get the .edu (ex-employer) to sell 'em part of the /16 they have, since we moved 90% of stuff there from public to private =) [15:43]
up_the_ironshaha yeah
man, i knew someone who had a legacy /16
he gave it back before I could convince him to assign it to me... ;)
ARIN even said, "Um.. are you SURE you want to give this back?"
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jlgaddisheh
interop gave back 45/8 (except for a *very* small portion of it) about this time last year
one of the rir's, apnic i think, is completely out
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up_the_ironsoh dang, completely out??
wow
yeah i heard of what interop did
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jlgaddisi haven't seen anythign "official" saying they're out, but that's what it's sounding like [15:49]
up_the_ironsah [15:49]
jlgaddisthey split up the last five /8s or whatever and apnic has already went through theirs is what i'm hearing
wouldn't surprise me at all, tbh
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up_the_ironsyeah me either [15:50]
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jlgaddisup_the_irons: hey, i have an idea for you for an add-on "feature"... storage space outside of the vps (e.g. on another host), accessible by ftp, sftp, or whatever
e.g. $x GB i can sftp files to for safe handling instead of copying them to $home or wherever. in the event i need to restore, i can retrieve them much quicker than i can scp'ing them from a box at $home on a 512k uplink.
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up_the_ironsmy friend just posted:
3:49PM up 1718 days, 17 hrs, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.01
daaaaaamn
FreeBSD 6.1, btw
jlgaddis: only trouble is, i have no way to isolate that data transfer from "regular" data; so you'd be billed for it; perhaps that doesn't matter, but if the files are big, i bet it would :)
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jlgaddisahh okay, didn't know where you pulled you transfer stats from [17:25]
arenlorAccording to he.net there are/were only 19M IPs left to APnic, and that's where a LOT of the population growth (both technical and human) is occurring, so likely gone soon if not already. [17:27]
jlgaddisheck that's a whole /8 and then some [17:28]
arenlorYeah, but Asia Pacific is really a big area.
And the fastest growing smart phone market (and I think largest).
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jlgaddis*nod* [17:29]
arenlorSo 19M phones get sold, and that's the end of it. [17:30]
jlgaddissome carriers are using rfc1918 space for phones, not sure if they do in AP or not [17:31]
arenlorAfrica has 1234560000 left. (Neat number, couldn't shorten it) [17:32]
up_the_ironsin some debug mode on my Nexus S, it shows an rfc1918 IP [17:32]
arenlor^_^' I get a public IP [17:33]
up_the_ironshah [17:33]
jlgaddishmm, i have a git repo that's outta whack
on two boxes it shows up to date, but one has files that the other doesn't :/
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up_the_ironsbet ya 'git rev-parse HEAD' is different
(you're in the wrong branch)
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arenlorrm -rf /* solve the issue? [17:38]
jlgaddisoh, no, i forgot to push [17:38]
arenlorAlso, I assume anyone in this channel is smart enough to not run said command.
That and, this is IRC.
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jlgaddisarenlor: OMG all my files are gone!
jlgaddis grins
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arenlorjlgaddis: Damned fast drive, what is it? [17:39]
jlgaddis1tb ram drive =) [17:40]
arenlorYou have to admit, asking what type of drive it is would be the normal correct question on IRC. [17:42]
jlgaddisyeah [17:44]
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jlgaddisup_the_irons: expect one of my former coworkers coming in here soon
says he sent an email because he needs/wants a different iso mounted, but i'm guessing he probably didn't bother to tell you what it was or give a link to it
or maybe i'm wrong... "I send the URL to the ISO as well as the VM UUID already via
email and in the ticket. If they still haven't responded by morning
I'll get on IRC."
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up_the_ironsjlgaddis: roger that [23:14]
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