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| jlgaddis | jlgaddis beats ivan-kanis with the cluebat
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| MuskyHusky | annoying | [04:44] |
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| jlgaddis | mike-burns, toddf, up_the_irons: ping | [05:32] |
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| MuskyHusky | someone needs a bnc :D
someone sell this man a vps | [05:37] |
| mike-burns | Hah. | [05:38] |
| bob^^ | lol | [05:39] |
| jlgaddis | mike-burns: gracias | [05:43] |
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| maxamillion | hello all, I was referred to your VPS services and I wanted to drop by and ask if there is any offer of automated backups? | [08:49] |
| mike-burns | There is not, no. | [08:49] |
| maxamillion | ah ok | [08:49] |
| mike-burns | The most popular backup service we customers use is tarsnap. | [08:50] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm using zfs send/recv to a box in texas | [08:50] |
| maxamillion | mike-burns: semi random side question, where are you geographically located? | [08:50] |
| RandalSchwartz | that way I have precise point-in-time backups updated constantly | [08:50] |
| maxamillion | (ie - the datacenter) | [08:50] |
| RandalSchwartz | LAX | [08:50] |
| maxamillion | ah, ok | [08:50] |
| RandalSchwartz | wilshire annex
close to the center of the net universe | [08:50] |
| maxamillion | just curious what my lag time would be :) | [08:50] |
| RandalSchwartz | it's pretty well connected | [08:50] |
| mhoran | mike-burns: and I use our VPS from East coast.
usually it's fine. | [08:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | ping arpnetworks.com and you'll get a good idea
that machine is right alongside the VPS | [08:51] |
| maxamillion | I noticed the custom partitioning page .. is there a way to install RHEL from my dvd iso I downloaded from RHN? | [08:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | you can mount any DVD you want, and wipe whatever disk you get | [08:51] |
| mike-burns | You can install from any ISO. | [08:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | I've rebuilt every machine I get
since I want root-on-ZFS (FreeBSD) and that's not a standard option just boot from DVD, and wipe the disk | [08:52] |
| maxamillion | oh nice | [08:52] |
| RandalSchwartz | these machines are full virtual, not paravirtual | [08:53] |
| maxamillion | what virt tech is running under the guests? | [08:53] |
| RandalSchwartz | so any standard distro works just fine
I believe it's XEN | [08:53] |
| maxamillion | ah, nice | [08:53] |
| RandalSchwartz | I've been a happy customer for 18 months | [08:53] |
| maxamillion | awesome ... I'll sign up when I get home from work :) | [08:53] |
| RandalSchwartz | I have 4 boxes here, and one more in texas with another company for the offsite backups | [08:53] |
| maxamillion | yeah, the guy who recommended me had good things to say
RandalSchwartz: your texas box by any chance with linode? | [08:53] |
| bob^^ | nothing bad to say here either - had great service since i joined about a year ago | [08:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | elastichosts | [08:54] |
| maxamillion | ah ok | [08:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | which had the best nearly-the-same-as-arp features
and a price that was only a bit more missing ipv6 though :( | [08:54] |
| maxamillion | I have a linode in Dallas, TX right now and I'm mostly happy with the service but I want a RHEL installation and their custom distro setup is .... painful | [08:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | so I have to do a tunnel | [08:54] |
| maxamillion | not to mention arpnetworks' pricing is better than linode ... so even more motivation to migrate | [08:55] |
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| maxamillion | I'll need to sort out another backup solution (not a showstopper though) | [08:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | arp keeps the overhead low by not having a 24x7 support staff
if you break something, fix it yourself | [08:55] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: ah, makes sense | [08:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | if arp breaks somthing, they'll fix it right away
so it's a bit more for experts but if you have questions, come here. we help too | [08:55] |
| maxamillion | cool cool
I like to think I'm self sufficient, but support outlets are certainly always a plus can't know everything :) | [08:56] |
| RandalSchwartz | lots of different expertise here. I don't remember anything about linux anymore... been on openbsd and solaris and now freebsd, and you can't get me to go back. :)
but others here are linux users | [08:57] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: that's fair, I have a lot of respect for the BSD family ... spent a little time with a FreeBSD box but RHEL/Fedora is more my preference | [08:58] |
| vcs | im a CentOS/OpenBSD user myself | [08:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'd argue that BSD is "real" Unix, and Linux is just an interesting clone, but some people would insist on arguing with me about that. :) | [09:02] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: I certainly won't be one of them, its even in the GNU name | [09:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | I also argue that it's just "linux" and not "GNU/Linux"
Linus can call it whatever he wants RMS has no say on that | [09:07] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: that's a whole different topic, I don't so much argue GNU/Linux in the sense of RMS vs. Torvalds as much as the GNU userspace (mostly bash+coreutils) is what we as aministrators of linux machines actually interface with
I don't really worry about the naming convention from the theory or religion aspect of it | [09:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | Sure, and Linus calls his kernel plus the GNU userspace just "Linux"
and I'll respect him for that. he's more fun to party with than RMS, and I've hung around both in other words, if I'm typing "ls" at a command line, I'm just using "Linux" | [09:09] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: oh yeah, if GNU userspace plus the linux kernel is included in the term "Linux" I have zero qualms with that | [09:10] |
| RandalSchwartz | if RMS had wanted to require that any distribution that uses the gnu toolset on top of a kernel had to be prefixed with "GNU/", that should have been in the GPL.
but it wasn't, so RMS is just late coming to the party trying to ride on the coattails of the Linux phenomenon | [09:10] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: but to round back, I will 100% agree that BSD is real UNIX and Linux is just a (wild west styled) clone | [09:11] |
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| RandalSchwartz | you and I may get along just fine then. :) :) | [09:11] |
| maxamillion | yeah, and I think its adorable that they are trying to bring back Hurd
RandalSchwartz: w00t! :D maxamillion likes getting along | [09:11] |
| RandalSchwartz | are you an opensource kinda guy?
if so, do you know about http://twit.tv/floss - my open source podcast? | [09:12] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: I am an open source kinda guy ... I'm a Fedora package maintainer and ambassador, general open source advocate, and over all FOSS fanboi
I do not, but I will certainly add it :) RandalSchwartz: wait, you the same guy who published all the perl books? | [09:15] |
| RandalSchwartz | the author, not the publisher. that'd be Tim O'Reilly :) | [09:17] |
| maxamillion | heh
awesome, well ... its an honor to have quasi met you :) maxamillion just had a "your rock stars are not like our rock stars" moment :P | [09:18] |
| jpalmer | maxamillion: fancy seeing you here | [09:19] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: o hai
jpalmer: I take it your a customer? | [09:20] |
| jpalmer | maxamillion: not only a client, I used to help with DNS support requests before the self-help portal :P | [09:21] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: oh wow, awesome
jpalmer: I'll be migrating from my linode to arpnetworks this evening jpalmer: I never knew about this little diamond in the rough before :) | [09:21] |
| jpalmer | I'l tell you now, the disk I/O on arp is markedly better than on linode. | [09:21] |
| maxamillion | holy effing win | [09:22] |
| jpalmer | (at least, with the hosts I'm on) | [09:22] |
| maxamillion | that's largely a complaint of mine on my linode | [09:22] |
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| maxamillion | either way, the linode io is terrible for paravirt | [09:22] |
| jpalmer | you doing a BSD or linux vm? | [09:22] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: going to install RHEL 6.1 | [09:23] |
| jpalmer | I'm converting one of my vps's to C6 tonight. | [09:23] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: I was looking for a VPS that would let me install from my own ISO becuase I want RHEL and I found my way here
cool cool | [09:23] |
| jpalmer | maxamillion: just so you are aware.. ARP is 8really* good if you are mostly self sufficient. Garry mostly does support requests once a day.. so if you do support requests often, you may not be thrilled. other than that, arp is awesome.
did you already ask him to mount the ISO for you? | [09:24] |
| vcs | what jpalmer said. | [09:24] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: I only put in a support request once in the last 2 years with linode.com and that's because my node was down ... turned out they had a catastrophic hardware failure and were restoring from backups | [09:25] |
| jpalmer | (and the native IPv6 is pure win ;) | [09:25] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: I did not, I haven't signed up yet
jpalmer: if that is going to take some time, I'll sign up over my lunch break so I can do the install this evening | [09:25] |
| jpalmer | oh, gotcha. well, then you may not be installing rhel 6.1 tonight. (He'd provision the VPS this evening, most likely.) make sure to request an RHEL 6.1 iso be mounted.
if the RHEL iso's are still behind a paywall, you may have to host an image he can wget. | [09:26] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: I can probably do that | [09:26] |
| jpalmer | I figured ;) just trying to give you hints so you can be up and running a bit faster. | [09:27] |
| maxamillion | yeah, cetainly .. thanks for the info :) | [09:27] |
| jpalmer | of course, this is probably obvious. but in your order form, in the notes.. ask him to mount your ISO image into the new vps, and give him the link where he can wget/fetch it. | [09:27] |
| maxamillion | rgr
I'm going to have to add this channel to my autojoin list, it seems nice here (which is getting harder and harder to find) | [09:28] |
| jpalmer | it's mostly a good group. and due to the 'limited support' aspect, the people in here generally know their shit. so it's pretty nice. | [09:29] |
| RandalSchwartz | Some of us have been using unix since 1977. :) | [09:30] |
| jpalmer | maxamillion: refresh my memory, were you one of the "RHEL + puppet" people in the other channel?
RandalSchwartz: I don't go back quite that far.. but I'm around 20 years now. (FreeBSD 2.2.2) err, I guess 2.2.0, 2.2.2 was my first "upgrade" that I attempted successfully. | [09:30] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: possibly ... puppet is a common topic
RandalSchwartz: I wasn't alive in 1977 ... my first computer was a 1GHz Pentium3 w/ 256mb of ram and we had cable internet | [09:34] |
| jpalmer | I decided yesterday that I want to redo my entire puppet environment. this time I want to make it fully aware of major an minor versions (and be compatible with both) I think I'm going to follow the "example42" foo module template. | [09:35] |
| maxamillion | it came with WindowsMe on it and that lasted 3 months and I got a boxed set of Red Hat Linux 7.1 Deluxe Workstation from BestBuy and I haven't looked back since | [09:36] |
| jpalmer | youngster! | [09:36] |
| maxamillion | :) | [09:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | I've never owned a machine that came with a licensed copy of windows in my life. | [09:37] |
| maxamillion | I'm only 24 years old
still earning my badges of honor | [09:37] |
| RandalSchwartz | I still don't know much about windows except how to download putty so I can ssh to a real box | [09:37] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: +1 | [09:37] |
| jpalmer | RandalSchwartz: windows is nowhere near as bad now as it once was. | [09:37] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: here at work we're handed a corporate image of windows and I use it to access corporate email and to ssh | [09:38] |
| mike-burns | Also download Chromium so you can get an ISO. | [09:38] |
| jpalmer | MS has made some real changes for the better in every version since 2000 | [09:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | yes - they're making it more mac like. that makes it sane.
and macs are becoming more unix like full circle! RandalSchwartz is typing this on OSX laptop OSX -> Terminal.app -> ssh -> tmux -> GNU Emacs -> irc.el :) | [09:38] |
| jpalmer | OSX just frustrates me. it's unixy, but not. so, everytime I try to do something, I have to find out the "appleunix" way of doing it. | [09:39] |
| mike-burns | Yeah. | [09:39] |
| jpalmer | jpalmer is on a macbook pro right now, and I have a mac mini. | [09:39] |
| mike-burns | I'd rather just run FreeBSD, or Linux if I must. | [09:39] |
| vcs | yeah.
you can bust out a terminal, but you feel so restricted but their applely way of doing things just feels backwards | [09:40] |
| jpalmer | want to clear the DNS cache on OSX? I can do it easily on windows, I can do it easily on linux and BSD. on OSX, I have to go look it up. (dscacheutil -flushcache) | [09:41] |
| vcs | their GUI is nice, but underneath its not that pretty imo | [09:41] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: I continue to ponder a mbp, but for now my dell laptop with fedora is doing well ... just sometimes when a package update breaks something I get all pissy and ponder why i don't own a mac | [09:41] |
| jpalmer | of course, to be fair. most of my complaints in OSX is that I'm just not that familiar with it. but it IS frustrating that it's "so unix like" but not really. | [09:41] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: not unix like, it *is* UNIX ... as per the certification board or what not
the open group said so ;) | [09:42] |
| jpalmer | maxamillion: my MBP is work supplied. I won't lie though.. if it were *my* dime, I'd have a higher end IBM, HP, or dell laptop. (and still pay about the same amount) | [09:43] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: that's fair ... I'm more just looking for shit to "just work" ... and apple kinda has a corner on that market since they control everything from jump street ... but at the same time, that level of control bothers me
jpalmer: its a strange battle in my mind | [09:44] |
| mike-burns | Non-programming stuff just works on OS X. The stuff I need was very lacking. | [09:45] |
| jpalmer | mike-burns: my sentiment is almost identical. OSX seems like a great OS if you don't really need to get under the hood. but I struggle with it constantly. Of course, then you have people like RandalSchwartz who (I assume) is an "under the hood" type, and he loves it.
so I try to conciously be aware of my own shortcomings (inexperience with the OS) and try not to blame an OS for my own problems ;) | [09:46] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah - I have macports installed
so I can say things like "sudo port install wine" and it just works and I smoketest git and gnu emacs every day | [09:46] |
| jpalmer | of course macports just works. it's jkh's brainchild :P | [09:47] |
| maxamillion | heh | [09:49] |
| mike-burns | My coworkers use homebrew instead these days. Seems to have more stuff in it. | [09:49] |
| jpalmer | haha, I just realized. I'm sitting here detailing my struggles with OSX, but I bought Lion yesterday, burned the DVD and installed it on my mini :P | [09:50] |
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| RandalSchwartz | homebrew doesn't deal well with conflicts or dependencies though, I thought
and maybe not uninstalls puts a lot more work in your hands | [09:52] |
| mike-burns | Maybe not, yeah. | [09:52] |
| RandalSchwartz | I like something that's a bit more automated
ports are kept up quite well although it has broken badly occasionally like moving to perl 5.10 broke mod_perl because it had a regex match in the port looking specifically for /5.d$/ oops :) | [09:52] |
| mike-burns | Hah.
Very whoops. | [09:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | I *really* like the tight FreeBSD CPAN integration
if a CPAN module isn't in FreeBSD ports, "BSDPan" builds it and makes a package that can be uninstalled later it Just Works. And works well I wish macports would do that too | [09:54] |
| maxamillion | RandalSchwartz: that's what well thought out structure in an OS can offer you .... in the wild wild west its not so nice .. >.>
;) | [09:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | nothing stopping macports from doing that... the technology is actually minimally intrusive
and given that macports installs their own Perl, isn't even hard to monkey patch during that install | [09:56] |
| maxamillion | I was referring to linux as the wild wild west
I <3 linux, but I will admit all day that its extremely ad hoc | [09:57] |
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| maxamillion | all better | [10:01] |
| RandalSchwartz | different is better? ;) | [10:05] |
| maxamillion | lol
well, my irssi config is correct now oh hey, are the VPSs 64-bit or 32-bit only? | [10:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | amd64 emulation | [10:06] |
| maxamillion | oh .. hrm | [10:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | at least, that's what my dmesg says | [10:06] |
| maxamillion | rgr
so should I go 32-bit or is 64-bit alright? | [10:06] |
| toddf | so you could run 32bit or 64bit os's, seems a waste to do 32bit when 64bit is available, but sometimes thats what is desired for $randomreason | [10:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... hw.model: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 | [10:07] |
| maxamillion | ah, ok .. that's fair
I'll roll a 64-bit image | [10:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | ... hw.machine: amd64 | [10:07] |
| Olipro | technically, a 32-bit OS will consume a wee bit less memory
but you're paying for that in instruction efficiency and it's by-and-large not worth it | [10:14] |
| maxamillion | yeah ... and with 768mb of ram, its not like I'll be hurting for memory | [10:16] |
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| whitefang | hi
up_the_irons: you around? | [10:19] |
| nesta | hello whitefang | [10:20] |
| whitefang | sup nesta
<3 ARP | [10:20] |
| nesta | <3 indeed | [10:20] |
| whitefang | down with <insert who pissed me off before here>
:) | [10:20] |
| nesta | :-) | [10:20] |
| whitefang | WTB ARP admin
plox thanks paying with volunteered labour no lifting ;) | [10:20] |
| RandalSchwartz | whitefang - what? | [10:25] |
| whitefang | RandalSchwartz: don't taze me bro. | [10:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | are you a bot? :) | [10:25] |
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| RandalSchwartz | seems to be failing the turing test :) | [10:26] |
| mike-burns | Is he failing ... or are you? | [10:26] |
| maxamillion | all signed up ... just gotta wait for processing :)
I also might be violating terms of service by having a rhel iso on a public location ... its atleast not indexed so I'll just take it down asap :X maxamillion hides from RHT legal | [10:27] |
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| jpalmer | quick poll: gitolite? or gitorious?
jpalmer hax maxamillion and steals the rhel ISO bits. | [10:43] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: lol
jpalmer: its just the net install image so you can't really get anywhere without a local repo or a rhn login | [10:52] |
| hey, so do the monthly charges happen automagically or do I need to login and pay every month? | [11:03] | |
| mike-burns | Automatically. | [11:03] |
| maxamillion | awesome | [11:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | "by the power of a massive computational source..." | [11:06] |
| maxamillion | w00t!!! my vps is created
passwords changed | [11:08] |
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| maxamillion | ok .... now to get RHEL install on this beast | [11:09] |
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| jpalmer | jpalmer wonders what max thinks of the disk IO so far. | [13:05] |
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| up_the_irons | up_the_irons bets he loves it | [13:46] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: haven't gotten to install just yet because VNC is blocked on the corporate firewall ... so I'll test when I get home :)
what does everyone use for backups? | [13:55] |
| plett | maxamillion: In my case, rsnapshot and another VPS on a different continent | [14:00] |
| maxamillion | heh
I suppose I could just cron job a rsync to a box at home | [14:00] |
| plett | One of the reasons I chose ARP for this VPS because it's sufficiently far from the rest of my stuff, which is all in .uk | [14:04] |
| maxamillion | ah | [14:05] |
| plett | So it is a secondary NS and MX, and has backups of various git repos | [14:05] |
| maxamillion | makes sense | [14:05] |
| plett | I figure that in the event of any global disaster which destroys both London and LA, I will probably have bigger things to worry about than my email being down | [14:06] |
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| plett | (the other reasons I had for chosing ARP being IPv6, English speaking tech support (which I wouldn't get if I went a similar number of miles in a different direction from .uk) and an IRC channel to lurk in) | [14:08] |
| maxamillion | my firest reason was the ability to install RHEL in my VPS, then it evolved into better pricing than I am currently paying, a nice irc channel, and a nice no-nonsense attitude all around
so I think this will be good for the long haul ... just need to sort out a good backup solution for myself :) | [14:10] |
| jlgaddis | don't forget the chicks
chicks dig arp | [14:11] |
| mike-burns | It's true. | [14:11] |
| jlgaddis | maxamillion: tarsnap works for me. ymmv.
.ca is good for something, after all | [14:11] |
| maxamillion | jlgaddis: tarsnap a service or an utility?
heh ... google would help me not fail so much | [14:11] |
| jlgaddis | yeah, would you like me to google that for you? :)
think tar, but instead of tape, a server in canada that saves it onto amazon s3 | [14:12] |
| jpalmer | maxamillion: bacula | [14:12] |
| maxamillion | jlgaddis: ah
jpalmer: really? ... interesting | [14:13] |
| jpalmer | maxamillion: I'm a huge bacula fan. | [14:14] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: I'll have to give it a look | [14:14] |
| jpalmer | I'd put bacula up against several commercial/enterprise options too. it can backup windows, exchange server, most unixy flavors, etc. | [14:14] |
| maxamillion | nice | [14:14] |
| jpalmer | (and, it's the "standard" backup utility in RHEL 6 | [14:15] |
| maxamillion | I've so far only used rsync because I have a script I wrote a few years ago and I'm lazy
but I would like to have something a little better | [14:15] |
| jpalmer | bacula is a slight learning curve. but aftr you get the basics down, I can bring up a new client in moments. | [14:15] |
| maxamillion | jpalmer: oh? they migrate away from amanda? | [14:15] |
| jpalmer | maxamillion: yea
(I actually have puppet do all of the client side configs of bacula. and created a custom fact for the bacula password. so I literally let puppet configure the client, and then just cut/paste the server (director) side of things. | [14:15] |
| maxamillion | ah, slick | [14:17] |
| jpalmer | eventually, I'll puppetize the server side too. but it's a bit more difficult, and I've got much higher priority things to puppetize. | [14:18] |
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| twobithacker | Hmm... this is weird. Does arp have some sort of default rate limiter on port 22 connections? | [14:48] |
| toddf | it does | [14:49] |
| plett | twobithacker: I believe so, yes. | [14:49] |
| twobithacker | oh good, I'm not going insane | [14:49] |
| toddf | designed to keep out the rather obnoxious ssh password scanning botnets
its the only port filtered, but its only a rate limit connection rate limit that is | [14:49] |
| twobithacker | any chance it can be disabled on a per-host basis? | [14:50] |
| plett | I keep meaning to ask for details of what gets blocked and when. Not because I dislike the idea, but to decide it it's good enough that I don't need to run my own limiting on my VPS | [14:50] |
| toddf | checkout support@ if you wish, but .. what reasonable use do you have that means it is getting in your way?
keep in mind you might want to read up on putting this in your $HOME/.ssh/config file: Host * ControlPath ~/.ssh/ctl-%r-%h-%p ControlMaster auto VerifyHostKeyDNS yes | [14:50] |
| twobithacker | It's interferring with our in-house automated deployment system, which could probably be written better | [14:51] |
| toddf | er scratch that last line but anyway
you can also use an alternate port which will not be rate limited | [14:51] |
| twobithacker | yeah, I'll probably just do the alt port | [14:51] |
| toddf | its an OpenBSD pf firewall, so technically the exception can be made; whether it will or not is up to up_the_irons | [14:52] |
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| jpalmer | ControlMaster may help you, until you write your automated eployment stuff better. | [14:52] |
| twobithacker | Thanks for the help | [14:55] |
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| maxamillion | so ... how do I get to the bios to tell my vm to boot from cdrom? .... when I reboot my VM it kills my VNC connection | [15:36] |
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| henderb | maxamillion: I think I booted from the webpage or ssh console, then quickly opened vnc to hit F12 | [15:53] |
| maxamillion | henderb: I've done that about 7 times ... I just keep getting VNC server not found and when it finally connects I have a login prompt
and now I can't VNC at all this is spectacular OH!!! I got it!!! w00t!!! :D | [15:54] |
| hrmmm... well it connected but now its frozen .... sweet | [16:05] | |
| up_the_irons | maxamillion: I find xtightvncviewer works the best (on Linux)
I've never used anything else and I can always hit customer consoles with it | [16:18] |
| maxamillion | yeah .... I've now tried 3 different VNC clients ... this is unfortunate
so ... how do I cancel my account? | [16:19] |
| up_the_irons | maxamillion: send an email to support@arpnetworks.com with your VPS UUID and just a note about cancelling | [16:23] |
| maxamillion | ok, thanks | [16:24] |
| up_the_irons | you might want to review the "some things to note" part of this:
http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/out-of-band-management if you're having VNC trouble VNC access should not really be a problem, we're all either Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS, etc.. people in here | [16:24] |
| maxamillion | naw, I can get the VNC but the lag is terrible ... its just not worth the pain to convert from my current VPS | [16:25] |
| up_the_irons | oh i c
mind posting a traceroute? pastie.org or similar... unless you're in china i don't see why lag is an issue | [16:25] |
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| maxamillion | up_the_irons: http://fpaste.org/1Pem/ | [16:27] |
| up_the_irons | cool thanks | [16:28] |
| maxamillion | up_the_irons: anytime
I'm gonna head out ... thanks for the help | [16:29] |
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| up_the_irons | np | [16:29] |
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