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| eyecue | ahhh
TGIF. | [01:10] |
| G | eyecue: congratulations on surviving black friday ):
*:) | [01:11] |
| eyecue | muchos gracias
what a week aye spend the latter half of today enthralled in rack and rack accessory pricing from our supplier and trying to work out front and rear of rack configurations up_the_irons; on a related note, ive specd and quotes the apx sx's and switched pdu's. s/apx/apc im currently stuck on vertical cable management for the front of our patch cabinet :| | [01:12] |
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| G | hmmmm only a couple of minutes until I can play "Lets see how bad I can stuff up my MythTV setup" :) | [01:21] |
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| DaCa | azmarco: please msg me too | [01:47] |
| eyecue | jesus christ i love internode.
made a plan change last night adsl1->adsl2+, rollerover is midnight tonight, and theyve already made the dslam switch i 'knew' my IRC messages were downloading faster tonight :D | [01:55] |
| G | eyecue: wow, thats fast | [02:00] |
| eyecue | internode are oarsome
seriously i was loading up apc.com and though to myself *hell thats quick* | [02:00] |
| G | eyecue: when I was in Brisbane internode didn't have any equipment in my exchange | [02:00] |
| eyecue | did a speed check and realised i was getting 600k/sec
yeh me too | [02:00] |
| G | eyecue: Roma Street exchange? | [02:00] |
| eyecue | and im only on their easy reach (telstra wholesale dslam)
my current exchange is in build for node dslam few weeks i might be able to switch again :) | [02:00] |
| G | I had to go w/ TPG in Brisbane, they were okay, but half the battle was getting the phone connected in the first place | [02:01] |
| eyecue | gah, flaky internets
:| | [02:02] |
| G | I was originally going to go via iiNet, but they couldn't get Telstra to connect the phone | [02:02] |
| eyecue | honestly, i cant ever recommend anyone other than node
ive been on dsl1 for 2 years coz i lov enode so much | [02:02] |
| G | eyecue: yeah, I know plenty of people that love them | [02:02] |
| eyecue | so the last plan i was on (yesterday) was dsl1 40gb, upstream only
for 69.95 | [02:03] |
| G | $20 for 100GB?
:P | [02:03] |
| eyecue | current plan, adsl2+ 60gb, upstram only (including power pack for 10/mo) for 59.95
:) so same price WIN! | [02:03] |
| G | don't you mean $10 cheaper? | [02:04] |
| eyecue | well, the 59.95 counts uploads/downloads
you pay 10 bucks more, it counts down only and you get a stat ip | [02:04] |
| G | eyecue: for comparison to NZ...
We pay ~65NZD for ADSL1 (at 2mbit/s), 30GB/mo ~50 AUD | [02:05] |
| eyecue | hmm
gah ! and you have translatlantic traffic fail :) | [02:07] |
| G | next month, we'll be paying a combined 105 for phone + broadband you can take about $50 off that to take away the phone component, so ~55NZD, for ADSL1 (2mbps) & 40GB | [02:09] |
| eyecue | oh noice | [02:10] |
| G | 2mbps is because I live 5km from the exchange :) | [02:10] |
| eyecue | ahh
im pretty close | [02:10] |
| G | oh wait, it's only 45 for the home phone, so ~60NZD for the Broadband
so it seems that NZ is cheaper than Telstra wholesale plans? | [02:11] |
| eyecue | possibly, ish
my prev plan was grandfathered 2 years ago you get downstream only counted ? | [02:12] |
| G | nope, most ISPs count both directions
eyecue: but I'm going to be laughing soon | [02:13] |
| eyecue | ive only ever been on down onlies | [02:13] |
| G | eyecue: next month (I think) the Rural Broadband Initiative goes live, and if what Telecom has told me on Twitter is true... I should be able to get Fibre to the Door pretty quickly | [02:13] |
| eyecue | oh nice
:] | [02:14] |
| G | people that have Fibre running past their property in the RBI areas, can get FTTH
and Telecom happen to run a lot of their Exchange/National backhaul fibre alongside/through our property | [02:14] |
| eyecue | sexy as :) | [02:15] |
| G | heck, we aren't allowed to dig in parts of our property without consulting Telecom
but meh, it'll be all worth it if we can really get Fibre to the Door :) and it'll be much better than the 5Mbps wireless access promised to everyone else :P | [02:16] |
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| eyecue: for what it's worth, I'm still jealous of the NBN :) | [02:35] | |
| eyecue | yeh, its pretty sexy :] | [02:36] |
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| bob^^ | they keep promising FTTH in the UK too
FTTC is starting to catch on here, but of course you only get ~40mbit/s with that (and still the same crappy upload) | [02:59] |
| G | bob^^: FTTC+VDSL?
bob^^: is the C in UK Curb or Cabinet? | [03:01] |
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| bob^^ | cabinet here, G
in areas which are FTTC enabled there's a large street cabinet every few streets in residential areas then VDSL to homes | [03:06] |
| G | bob^^: yep, was just checking, because there is also Fibre to the Curb | [03:07] |
| bob^^ | yeah
i think that's a US thing? | [03:07] |
| G | Australia has it as well
mainly in Canberra | [03:07] |
| bob^^ | this is our only FTTC atm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Infinity
the criticism that wikipedia lists is correct; there are a lot of complaints here about the street cabinets they are *huge* the town i live in is 500 years old; they look *very* out of place and ugly :( | [03:08] |
| G | bob^^: http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/chorus-half-way-through-fibre-roll-out-now-comes-hard-bit-122413 is what NZ has for cabinets | [03:11] |
| bob^^ | G: look about the same as the ones we have - ours are just the same but taller :)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/050ea.jpg/ | [03:16] |
| G | oh, they look like the old style ones here
these new Telecom cabinets here and a nice shade of green *are a | [03:17] |
| bob^^ | hehe
all of the street cabinets (even the old small voice ones) here are about the same shade of green | [03:17] |
| toddf | that's just so they can say they are going green | [03:18] |
| bob^^ | hehe | [03:18] |
| G | in fact, if I was building a house, I'd actually paint the outside in the same Green :)
outside or roof | [03:18] |
| bob^^ | ours have been the same shade of green forever :) | [03:19] |
| G | depending
toddf: the shade of green in bob's picture is pretty much standard in UK based countries I think :) toddf: but NZ has chosen a newer darker green :) | [03:19] |
| bob^^ | darker would be better, less obvious :) | [03:20] |
| G | bob^^: you can kinda tell the shade of green in the picture I sent | [03:20] |
| bob^^ | yeah
defintely a little darker than ours the new cabs here are quite noisy too especially in warm weather when they have to turn on the ventilation systems | [03:20] |
| G | bob^^: old style cabinet: http://chillingsilence.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/telecom-geek-exchange-tour-2009/sdc10908/
new style: http://chillingsilence.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/telecom-geek-exchange-tour-2009/sdc10909/ | [03:21] |
| bob^^ | yeah they're very similar to our old cabinets | [03:22] |
| G | apparently the new ones are really really really quite | [03:22] |
| bob^^ | i hope so | [03:22] |
| G | hence why they are called either Single or Double Bay Whisper Cabinets | [03:22] |
| bob^^ | the ones here are really bad
if i lived beside one i would be complaining to BT | [03:22] |
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| RandalSchwartz | yup. zxfer rocks
mabel.insightcruises.com is now replicated to a box in texas, including all the snapshots! | [05:12] |
| G | hmmmm anyone else noticing IPv6 packet loss?
ahhh actually, might be at he.net | [05:15] |
| bob^^ | i'll check now
seems ok here | [05:16] |
| G | ahhh yeah, it's the tunnel server at he.net | [05:17] |
| bob^^ | ahh :(
i was going via genuine he.net v6 transit from london :) | [05:18] |
| G | mtr from my arp box to my tunnels IP, = packet loss at the tserv, mtr from home to arp box, = packetloss at the router after the tserv
gotta love mtr :) | [05:18] |
| bob^^ | mtr is a great little tool :) | [05:19] |
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| up_the_irons | my CIDR report is now squeaky clean: http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS25795&view=2.0
100% aggregation | [17:14] |
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| pilgrimd | now if we could just get the rest of the internet to do that.... | [19:03] |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons nods | [19:06] |
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:] up_the_irons; where do you put your switches in your racks? front back, middle top ? | [19:29] |
| up_the_irons | koobs: back top | [19:31] |
| koobs | in the server cabs?
and you trunk cables off to the side then down the vert rail ? im looking over various schools of though about equipment layout | [19:31] |
| up_the_irons | koobs: yes, server cabs
koobs: with 4x pdu's per cab, i don't have room for vertical wire managers, so i don't trunk them off to the side | [19:33] |
| koobs | ive seen some pretty good comments around rear middle positioning, for shorter cable runs and visibility (dont have to get up on a ladder) | [19:33] |
| up_the_irons | just straight down and velcro'd nicely | [19:33] |
| koobs | ah ok
and youve got the 1070's iirc yeh ? | [19:33] |
| up_the_irons | yeah | [19:34] |
| koobs | side to side fans for the switches then ? | [19:34] |
| up_the_irons | whatever the switch supports | [19:36] |
| koobs | oo procurves have a modular fan assembly | [19:36] |
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| RandalSchwartz | and up_the_irons, does your toilet paper come off the front, or near the wall? :)
RandalSchwartz wanders off to bed aboard this rocky ship... | [20:35] |
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| atmark | Hi, can I request for a reset back factory default on my VPS? I already emailed support a few hours ago but as of this moment I dont get a reply. | [22:55] |
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| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: LOL
atmark: it should be done shortly | [23:23] |
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