#arpnetworks 2011-03-27,Sun

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RandalSchwartzif ARP didn't exist, what would the best freebsd hosting be for people who don't need a lot of handholding like me?
I'm looking for an offsite backup, perhaps even a hot spare.
but mostly an offsize backup to squirt ZFS streams towards
RootBSD, perhaps?
whoa - why isn't arp on http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html
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RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz surveys alternatives to ARP for a hot spare [14:55]
finkhi RandalSchwartz [14:58]
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pilgrimdRandalSchwartz: RootBSD has been good to me, and they're geodiverse from ARP. [15:38]
RandalSchwartzcool
I've sent them a note to get a quote on more disk
and to see if they mount a distro in the DVD tray like ARP
and to see if they have ipv6 yet
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pilgrimdJohnCompanies is another option. Jail-based VPSes. No IPv6, though, and, worse, mgmt doesn't even have a plan for it yet.
(That was actually the reason I switched from them to ARPN)
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RandalSchwartzyeah - I didn't see good info from JC
the web site says "and we're supporting freebsd 8.0 now!"
2008 called... they want their page back. :)
of course, xkcd comes to mind
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danconnorheyo! I just set up my FreeBSD server on Arp and buttoned it up nicely with pf and public-key-only ssh
I want to make sure that Arp can still access the box via the arpnetworks user. I see that there's an ssh key waiting there. Anything else I need to do?
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RandalSchwartzhow restrictive is your pf? [20:36]
apparently so restrictive that you can't even stick around to talk about it! [20:42]
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RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz got rid of that arpnetworks user without realizing there ever was one ) [21:16]
ballenso would it be blasphemous for me to install Ubuntu on my vm [21:20]
RandalSchwartznot at all
kinda pointless though
ubuntu is a desktop os
not a server os
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ballenI beg to differ actually [21:23]
greenskeletonthere is Ubuntu server [21:23]
RandalSchwartzfeel free. wasted breath though. :)
I don't consider linux suitable for servers in general. :)
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ballenindeed.. wasted breath
How about I installed Solaris 11 Express then ;-)
install*
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RandalSchwartznow you're just being silly :) [21:24]
ballenits actually "not" that bad
much better than 10
it's package manager is actually usable
just the licensing is going to kill it eventually
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RandalSchwartzs/it's/its/
<<== professional writer
one of my favorite irks
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ballenits only real home will be in the enterprise, even there there's so much disdain for Oracle now a days [21:26]
RandalSchwartzyeah - oracle is strangling any goodness that sun once was
on the other hand, sun sorta did that to itself
I say this knowing Simon Phipps very well
since he's the co-host of FLOSS Weekly on a routine basis
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ballenalso people putting an apostrophe after an acronym when its not possessive
yea agreed
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RandalSchwartzSimon has an amazingly deep insight about the role of open source
and was steering Sun in the proper direction
but the recession killed Sun
like many other valuable things :)
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ballenand Sparc no longer is useful in todays world [21:29]
RandalSchwartzthe recession nearly killed me
Sun was a lot more than Sparc
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ballenyea I guess I never looked at where they made most of their money
assumed it was hardware
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RandalSchwartzSun had a lot more hardware than Sparc. :)
lots of x86 boxes
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ballenyea their X86 hardware is crap and overpriced
i say that with having quite a bit of it
and thier Sparc hardware
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RandalSchwartzSun Fire! [21:31]
ballenwhich is actually the most solid hardware I've ever used
is Garry doing FreeBSD 8.2 yet?
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greenskeletonit's not listed in the drop down box [21:35]
RandalSchwartzjust put it in the comments
I don't think he's updated the website yet
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ballenah
yea no biggy
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