#arpnetworks 2011-03-27,Sun

if ARP didn't exist, what would the best freebsd hosting be for people who don't need a lot of handholding like me?
I'm looking for an offsite backup, perhaps even a hot spare.
but mostly an offsize backup to squirt ZFS streams towards
RootBSD, perhaps?

whoa - why isn't arp on http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

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RandalSchwartz

RandalSchwartz surveys alternatives to ARP for a hot spare

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fink

hi RandalSchwartz

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RandalSchwartz

hey fink

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pilgrimd

RandalSchwartz: RootBSD has been good to me, and they're geodiverse from ARP.

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RandalSchwartz

cool
I've sent them a note to get a quote on more disk
and to see if they mount a distro in the DVD tray like ARP
and to see if they have ipv6 yet

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pilgrimd

JohnCompanies is another option. Jail-based VPSes. No IPv6, though, and, worse, mgmt doesn't even have a plan for it yet.
(That was actually the reason I switched from them to ARPN)

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RandalSchwartz

yeah - I didn't see good info from JC
the web site says "and we're supporting freebsd 8.0 now!"
2008 called... they want their page back. :)
of course, xkcd comes to mind

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danconnor

heyo! I just set up my FreeBSD server on Arp and buttoned it up nicely with pf and public-key-only ssh
I want to make sure that Arp can still access the box via the arpnetworks user. I see that there's an ssh key waiting there. Anything else I need to do?

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RandalSchwartz

how restrictive is your pf?

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apparently so restrictive that you can't even stick around to talk about it!

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RandalSchwartz

RandalSchwartz got rid of that arpnetworks user without realizing there ever was one )

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ballen

so would it be blasphemous for me to install Ubuntu on my vm

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RandalSchwartz

not at all
kinda pointless though
ubuntu is a desktop os
not a server os

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ballen

I beg to differ actually

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greenskeleton

there is Ubuntu server

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RandalSchwartz

feel free. wasted breath though. :)
I don't consider linux suitable for servers in general. :)

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ballen

indeed.. wasted breath
How about I installed Solaris 11 Express then ;-)
install*

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RandalSchwartz

now you're just being silly :)

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ballen

its actually "not" that bad
much better than 10
it's package manager is actually usable
just the licensing is going to kill it eventually

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RandalSchwartz

s/it's/its/
<<== professional writer
one of my favorite irks

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ballen

its only real home will be in the enterprise, even there there's so much disdain for Oracle now a days

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RandalSchwartz

yeah - oracle is strangling any goodness that sun once was
on the other hand, sun sorta did that to itself
I say this knowing Simon Phipps very well
since he's the co-host of FLOSS Weekly on a routine basis

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ballen

also people putting an apostrophe after an acronym when its not possessive
yea agreed

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RandalSchwartz

Simon has an amazingly deep insight about the role of open source
and was steering Sun in the proper direction
but the recession killed Sun
like many other valuable things :)

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ballen

and Sparc no longer is useful in todays world

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RandalSchwartz

the recession nearly killed me
Sun was a lot more than Sparc

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ballen

yea I guess I never looked at where they made most of their money
assumed it was hardware

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RandalSchwartz

Sun had a lot more hardware than Sparc. :)
lots of x86 boxes