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| G | up_the_irons: oh nice, peering w/ Vocus, great news, as soon as my ISP enables IPv6 it should be only a couple of hops, ISP uses Vocus for Intl Transit | [03:50] |
| up_the_irons | G: nice :)
G: I've had IPv4 peering with them for a while, but now we enabled IPv6 | [03:50] |
| G | up_the_irons: yeah, the IPv4 peering is nice | [03:51] |
| up_the_irons | G: what does your traceroute look like? | [03:51] |
| G | hmmmm seems it's going through asianetcom today
but hold on a sec | [03:52] |
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| G | 10 hops, ~136-156ms
http://pastebin.com/DRjq68Cj up_the_irons: even though asianetcom it's short & sweet | [03:52] |
| up_the_irons | G: appears I peer with them too ;) | [03:54] |
| G | up_the_irons: yeah :) | [03:54] |
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| whitefang | G: vnstat does the trick | [05:16] |
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| dxtr | Hey, up_the_irons | [06:02] |
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| Vicking` | up_the_irons here? | [07:47] |
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| RandalSchwartz | JAreth - is there some question we can help with?
if it's not just a question, send email to support@ | [07:56] |
| JAreth | I was wondering if I'll receive the invoice before he try to use my CC for pay my vps | [08:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah, that's an email question
unless he happens to be here | [08:05] |
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| _pe | does anyone know what linux distribution and kernel version is installed under the vps instances? | [08:06] |
| RandalSchwartz | whatever you want
but there are some that are easier than others | [08:08] |
| _pe | i'm going to setup a linux box to try to get a working config for plan 9 guest | [08:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | since he already has it
if you care, specify it | [08:08] |
| _pe | RandalSchwartz: i don't mean the guest, i mean the host | [08:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | otherwise, he'll pick the easiest one from the rack.
oh... the host is invisible. does plan 9 care? email support@ with your question is the fastest way to get it answered | [08:08] |
| _pe | well, plan 9 doesn't boot on the current setup, and i'm working with garry to get it working. i plan tto setup a test box with the same software he's running so i can try to hack out a working config. | [08:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | and wait 1-2 days | [08:09] |
| _pe | right, just thought someone might know. | [08:09] |
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| toddf | check the '[fbi]' bot archives I seem to recall some details being disclosed here before | [08:25] |
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| _pe | toddf: thanks | [08:50] |
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| ix33 | aw man these VPSs can't boot PXE?
now i gotta request a media change :( | [10:44] |
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| chess | I gather a few folks around here use mailroute. I'd be curious to hear how people use them (i.e with postfix, or in front of gmail, etc). Anyone use their outbound/smart host service? | [11:14] |
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| chess | I'm asking b/c considering going back to running my own mail server on an arpnetworks vps with mailroute in front | [11:15] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm using mailroute yes.
and their outbound which saves me from being blocked by google apps for some reason, even though I'm not on an RBL, google apps still blocks red.stonehenge.com chess - do you know about the individual account from mailroute.info? (not to mention the 10% discount forever) | [11:21] |
| chess | RandalSchwartz: thanks for the info. Yes, the individual acct is very inexpensive and I see the TWiT discount ;-) | [11:23] |
| RandalSchwartz | I was formerly running spamassassin and greylisting
they're doing that plus more and if they bless my outbound, even better. the only downside so far is there doesn't seem to be any knobs to adjust I suppose you set thresholds by support requests so basically, you install it, and it just starts working nothing obvious to tweak | [11:24] |
| chess | interesting, so no control panel to access SA or whatever else they use | [11:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | right
just a web access to the email they diverted can't even send back ham and spam unless there's some interface I haven't found | [11:26] |
| chess | seems pretty neat. I guess if you use their outbound you don't need to worry about reverse dns, spf etc | [11:26] |
| RandalSchwartz | well - you have to worry about spf... :)
as in, if you have spf, you have to turn it off, or acknowledge them | [11:26] |
| chess | yep
seems like a nice service RandalSchwartz: they need to put you up on their Buzz page along with Leo ;-) | [11:27] |
| does the arpnetworks VPS serial console feature allow you to upgrade OpenBSD using bsd.rd? | [11:37] | |
| toddf | indeed | [11:37] |
| chess | very cool | [11:37] |
| toddf | just be warey of the 'disable mpbios' step you must do for GENERIC kernels | [11:38] |
| RandalSchwartz | I need to use it a bit more
then they'll quote me it's all in Perl, so I was already an insider. :) | [11:38] |
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| chess | RandalSchwartz: ;-) | [11:38] |
| G | whitefang: not sure what vnstat has to do with peering, but I already use alternatives for network monitoring anyway | [11:38] |
| chess | toddf: ah, ok. I need to read up on that. I don't recall having to do that on my own openbsd boxes | [11:39] |
| toddf | bah, even RAMDISK has it now. silly bios provides a mpbios table when there are not multiple cpus presented. this locks things hard on bootup for the guest os. reset and set accordingly.
chess: this is a factor of the bios used on the kvm instance at arp. newer kvm uses different bios without this issue, but it also doesn't let you boot off a cd for e.g. recovery by hitting f12 on the vnc console chess: if you wish this fixed there is a general open plea by any openbsd users of kvm at arp to find someone who can provide a newer bios for newer kvm that doesn't have the mpbios issue but does have an f12 option present for a few seconds at bootup | [11:39] |
| chess | toddf: reading up on this now | [11:44] |
| wallshot | i had totally given up on he.net's ipv6 tshirt, and out of the blue it arrived | [11:46] |
| Husky | how do you get a shirt | [11:46] |
| toddf | husky: get a tunnel (or maybe not even that) and follow their self-help guide that confirms you have actually setup IPv6 on your domain in various ways
husky: its like an automated ipv6 certification process | [11:47] |
| Husky | huh ive thought ive done that | [11:47] |
| wallshot | to get a shirt yesterday, i hit "sage" level on their ipv6 "certification" program like 8 months ago | [11:47] |
| Husky | yeah i think im sage right now, but ive been having problems with the domain ive been trying to use, my registrar doesnt do ipv6 glue records | [11:48] |
| wallshot | ouch | [11:48] |
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| Husky | so they have to set you back down a few levels to be able to use a diff domain, this would be the third domain ive tried to use ;/ | [11:48] |
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| wallshot | you should get bonus points for doing the other steps so many times | [11:52] |
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| ix33 | ooh i'm an he.net ipv6 certified newbie. | [12:03] |
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| wallshot | hurray! you're on the path to knowledge | [12:07] |
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| up_the_irons | chess: i use mailroute in front of OpenBSD/dspam/postfix/spf-policy; works *really* well. i do not use their outbound service. | [15:45] |
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| unix_usr | hey all | [15:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | hey one | [15:52] |
| unix_usr | sent an email to support@arpnetworks.com earlier today - anyone know usual response times ?
only ever had to contact support once before, and response was very quick... been hours this time :( | [15:52] |
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| ColloquyUser | who's allawake? | [15:59] |
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| unix_usr | hoping I can get a hold of an admin - wanna get new vps up and going tonight if possible? | [16:01] |
| DDevine | unix_usr: They are ususally pretty quick. 6 hours or so.
But whether they let you jump the queue is a different story. | [16:07] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: I'm doing a round of orders within in the next few hours. anyone in the queue will get their vps.
s/in// | [16:15] |
| unix_usr | up - sent an email...
looking to setup 'blank' vps - hoping to install FreeBSD 8.2 - is this doable? | [16:15] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: you would just order 8.1 and request the 8.2 ISO to be put in the CD-ROM drive | [16:17] |
| unix_usr | am a current vps customer - looking to upgrade/migrate
ok - so should I just fill in as a new order then? | [16:17] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: yeah; but did you put in an order already? (wondering if u are already in the queue) | [16:18] |
| unix_usr | I just sent email to support explaining what I wanted and requested - not sure if in queue, as I have not received response yet | [16:19] |
| coobra | up_the_irons: isit the 1st now for you :p | [16:19] |
| unix_usr | unix_usr sent request/email approximately 5hrs ago or so ... any way to check if they put order in queue for it? | [16:20] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: OK, I'll close that ticket. you just need to place a new order. use the same email address as your existing account
coobra: yup :) $$$ day | [16:20] |
| unix_usr | will do thanks | [16:21] |
| coobra | omg o/
if its this stable i pay / year :D 1 moore month ;D | [16:21] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: np
coobra: :) | [16:22] |
| unix_usr | unix_usr sent new vps request in - hoping you can get to it :)
btw - thus far, been a great service - kudos to you guys | [16:23] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: glad you like it :) | [16:24] |
| unix_usr | just wish network was closer to home - 12-16 hops @ 100ms or so from here | [16:24] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: where are you located? | [16:25] |
| unix_usr | southern Ontario/ Detroit mi border
I work in large datacenter in Dearborn, MI lol - wish they'd just let me stick personal server up there ... :$ | [16:25] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: LOL. I think it should be a perk for data center employees to put in a personal box or two ;) | [16:28] |
| wallshot | it's usually easier to use a company box for personal stuff
than get approval for a personal box course if the wrong manager finds out, that can go badly | [16:29] |
| unix_usr | yeah - not an option for me :(
bummer though - multi-homed 10gbe uplinks :) | [16:31] |
| wallshot | yum
yeah it was hard to work in the dc and not take advantage of the bandwidth graveyard shift played a lot of quake 3 arena | [16:32] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [16:32] |
| wallshot | it's amusing when you're in los angeles, and some kids in new york are crying that you're "cheating" cuz you're playing on the same LAN as the quake server... which is in new york with the whining kids | [16:33] |
| unix_usr | all firewalled off for me - just logging into any edge gear let alone touching rulesets would prolly get me canned | [16:33] |
| wallshot | and you go "we're in los angeles" and they go "yeah right, we see your 6ms ping!"
nice i would have preferred if we had a more secure environment than we did :) | [16:34] |
| unix_usr | have some crazy stuff over here though - I design load balancing software, so Linda close to it all, but not a direct admin or cna/cne or n e thing
s/Linda/kinda on iPhone here - stupid auto-correction | [16:35] |
| milki | thats cuz kinda isnt a real word!
neither is cuz >.> | [16:36] |
| unix_usr | n e how ... thanks for the help irons :) | [16:37] |
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| cpet | any support person available ? | [16:42] |
| jdoe | they live at support@ :) | [16:42] |
| up_the_irons | unix_usr: i'm impressed with the volume of your typing using just an iPhone ;) | [16:43] |
| cpet | uh well guess I will hold off on this issue then | [16:44] |
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| coobra | lol
unix_usr: re you on iphone ? | [16:44] |
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| coobra | lol
thats just some sick iphonewritingskills :D | [16:48] |
| up_the_irons | srsly | [16:52] |
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| unix_usr | lol - more or less impressed that holding a baby too while on iPhone :)
speaking of ... time for bottle and bed bib | [17:00] |
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| RandalSchwartz | the way to get better ping times to ARP is to physically move closer to los angeles. :) | [17:19] |
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| wallshot | also
is to not use freenet to do it if i get my laptop on ipv6 via freenet, i get insanely terrible ipv6 pings to my arp vps through normal routes (ipv4) it's at reasonable speeds i fully credit freenet6 with providing some damn-slow-pinging ipv6 access | [17:24] |
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| RandalSchwartz | why do people use freenet6 instead of tunnelbroker.net? :) | [17:45] |
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| pilgrimd | RandalSchwartz: The folly of choice. :) | [18:09] |
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| Husky | is it ok if i run a folding at home client? | [18:12] |
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| unix_usr | hey all
back - with a keyboard this time ;) Husky - what is a folding at home client ? | [18:36] |
| Husky | kinda like SETI@home
if youve heard of that | [18:39] |
| RandalSchwartz | it's very CPU intensive
basically, burn your CPU for the good of humanity | [18:40] |
| unix_usr | ah...
used to be a seti@home user :) got my boss convinced it was a good cause at company I used to work for - they had a lot of high-end workstations for 3D CAD/CAM ... so we ran on the entire engineering floor - screensaver mode had Sun Sparcstations + NT workstations in a seti@home 'team' ... | [18:43] |
| Husky | nice
RandalSchwartz, yeah im just wondering if thats "ok" | [18:44] |
| unix_usr | sadly - company went out of business some years back ... but was kinda cool he let us do that
husky - to what end though; as-in what does it actually compute/work towards ? | [18:45] |
| pilgrimd | Maybe it was due to the ridiculously high power bills running an entire floor of CAD computers' CPUs full-tilt would produce. :) | [18:46] |
| unix_usr | protien folding :)
neah - was piss/poor management and the bust in the auto-industry .... was a large tool and die facility... dependent upon 'the big 3' domestic auto companies... | [18:46] |
| RandalSchwartz | if you want to run folding@, it's far cheaper to get a PS3
a PS3 produces about 30x the results of a VPS here | [18:47] |
| milki | colocate a ps3! | [18:47] |
| unix_usr | nice - P3 has 8 CPU cores no ? | [18:47] |
| RandalSchwartz | the graphics processors in the PS3 fit the problem well.
it's not about cores | [18:47] |
| unix_usr | co-locate a pile of PS3's ... | [18:47] |
| RandalSchwartz | it's about kinds of CPU
RandalSchwartz wanders off | [18:47] |
| milki | its a cell processor right | [18:47] |
| Husky | RandalSchwartz, what do you mean cheaper? i get charged by the cpu cycles? | [18:48] |
| unix_usr | I would assume folding@home not need run on a static IP / sever / etc - can be run by home pc/etc ? | [18:48] |
| milki | ya
nothign special | [18:48] |
| pilgrimd | Y'all joke, but we have a pair of PS3's on the bench right now running folding@home under Linux. | [18:48] |
| milki | is required
we arent joking -.- | [18:48] |
| unix_usr | hrm.... have a whole bunch of 'blade' workstations... | [18:49] |
| pilgrimd | About colo'ing a PS3? | [18:49] |
| Husky | unix_usr, heh yeah i have it running on all of my computers at home, including laptops | [18:49] |
| milki | a cluster of ps3 form a valid supercomputer | [18:49] |
| unix_usr | P4 3.2ghz / 512 ram / nvidia GPU - 8 per chassis, 3U chassis | [18:49] |
| milki | o, i was joking about that indeed | [18:49] |
| pilgrimd | Cool, I want a rackmount PS3. Could probably fit three or four of them in a 1U. | [18:49] |
| Husky | im just wondering how much i can get away with | [18:49] |
| milki | didnt think ps3's were valid for colocation | [18:50] |
| unix_usr | I 'accidentally' bought 21 chassis on eBay last year :$ ... | [18:50] |
| DDevine | I accidentially a whole chassis. | [18:50] |
| Husky | the whole thing? | [18:50] |
| unix_usr | so 21 x 8 x P4 desktops x 3U rack ... | [18:50] |
| pilgrimd | milki: Depends on the environmental controls, I guess. They aren't plenum rated, so the DC would need to have its own air path. | [18:50] |
| milki | ah, that is ture | [18:50] |
| unix_usr | each chassis holds eight full workstations - with remote KVM break-out box like...
they were selling for $500 - $600 each like on eBay... so I got impatient and just bid like $100 - $120 on a whole bunch thinking I'd get lucky and maybe win one .... lol - I won like 21 of them :S | [18:51] |
| milki | nice | [18:52] |
| unix_usr | $2000 learning mistake ... lol | [18:52] |
| Husky | oops | [18:52] |
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| unix_usr | and a bunch of systems I have little to no use for :S | [18:52] |
| milki | beowulf cluster | [18:52] |
| unix_usr | ended up buying a bunch of 1U Sun Netra and Sun Fire servers instead | [18:53] |
| pilgrimd | Should be enough horsepower to run a minecraft server. | [18:53] |
| Husky | good one pilgrimd lol | [18:53] |
| unix_usr | not a gamer - such ideals are kinda lost on me :$
I bought them to run as controllers/servers for a smart-home I'm designing ... | [18:53] |
| milki | ooo | [18:53] |
| unix_usr | they ended up being too loud/power-hungry/workstation-centric to suit my needs... hence the replacement option became Sun v20z, and Sun Netra/Sparc 1U 'pizza' boxes ... | [18:54] |
| pilgrimd | Wow, a v20z is quieter? | [18:55] |
| unix_usr | running 13 servers in total - small /28 network online and 8 /24 internal networks .... to a whole wack of touchscreen controllers (android based)
v20z is noisy as a mo-fo when you turn them on.... but they idle down quite nicely | [18:55] |
| pilgrimd | We got a stack of those donated from a local shop. In a DC containing 8 racks of Sun, Cisco and Dell gear, you can easily tell if the v20z's are running or not. | [18:55] |
| unix_usr | the bladestations have 6 x 5 inch 7200rpm fans ... plus squirrelcage CPU fan, plus gpu fan, etc ...
my cisco switch at home here has bad fan bearing - lol it takes top honors right now :$ | [18:56] |
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| unix_usr | but the house I'm doing this project at has two full racks of equipment in server room, plus three electrical closets running
there's 184 DMX diming packs, which each control 4 120volt A/C circuits - all lighting, HVAC, security, door/window locks, etc is computer-controlled pretty interesting mix anyways :) - Cisco 2948G's mostly, still using CatOS lol - not your typical 'home network' | [18:57] |
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| jlgaddis | all that shit and they're running 2948g's. *sigh* | [19:58] |
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| unix_usr | up_the_irons: - you online?
getting arp error stating my IP is in use by another mac addr ... on newly setup VPS | [20:19] |
| looks like subnet info not right :S
can ping/access only the lower 2 addresses of the /29 from the outside world - even though vps host has aliased 4 addresses | [20:28] | |
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| RandalSchwartz | you didn't use the lowest address of the /29 did you?
or the second lowest for example, for 10.0.1.0/29, you can't use .0 or .1 unix_usr? | [21:38] |
| unix_usr | got it figured out :$
unix_usr is an idiot | [21:39] |
| RandalSchwartz | what was it? | [21:39] |
| unix_usr | I added a second VPS tonight, (*new one; larger to replace current one)
I requested /29 this time versus single IP on current one ... they expanded current one into the same /29 .... so the current vps is using the first avail ip in the subnet :S | [21:40] |
| RandalSchwartz | ahh yes
that happens | [21:41] |
| unix_usr | so duh! - yes something is using it - my current vps :S .... stupid me just took out a whole whack of stuff using that server for a few minutes too :(
all good now at least have FreeBSD 8.2 up and running now :) | [21:41] |
| RandalSchwartz | nice. I'm upgrading in a few weeks | [21:42] |
| unix_usr | custom kernel compiled, just waiting on some cvsup'ing to finish before giving her a reboot ... :)
I literally *just* finished migrating a bunch of servers to 8.1/SPARC ... :S 8.0 has some issues doing mlppp within the stock ppp daemon - so needed to go 8.0 -> 8.1 have multiple bonded ADSL lines using MLPPP for our internet connection at home :) using small Sun Netra X1 as my router/fw | [21:42] |
| RandalSchwartz | well - time to watch V and the cape... | [21:44] |
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