#arpnetworks 2011-01-26,Wed

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coobra:D [10:17]
nestahallo :) [10:17]
coobraheya [10:17]
shatthi [10:22]
nestasup shat!
ltns 		[10:23]
shattAye.
Always here, just do not speak often. 		[10:27]
nestaok [10:27]
shattGetting extremely frustrated at my RoR dev server.
Its like my rvm is broken or something.
pissing me off. 		[10:28]
nesta;( [10:34]
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vcs<troll>RoR is broken by definition to fix it use something else</troll> [11:02]
vaporhah [11:08]
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up_the_ironsI like RoR. Sinatra is way cool as well. [11:54]
RandalSchwartzI prefer Seaside to RoR [11:54]
mhoranI'm a fan of OpenACS.
(Sorry, that was a bad joke for cmeiklejohn.) 		[11:55]
RandalSchwartzheh [11:57]
cmeiklejohnHaha.
Mee too.
cmeiklejohn loves OpenACS.
Actually, what I really prefer is ACS. 		[11:57]
mike-burnsSeaside is neat but RoR pays the bills. [11:58]
RandalSchwartzmore greenstarts with seaside now
a couple of big commercial projects 		[12:00]
mike-burnsI like that it's taking off a bit. [12:01]
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RandalSchwartzheh. on spamfighter list, they're wondering if ISPs are really going to assign a /48 to each customer.
I argue back "look, a /48 is already 65k times as many addresses as we have in ipv4 space as /32's... why the hell would you narrow that to a /56 per customer?"
and also mumble something about IANA recommendations
ahh, there it is - http://www.iana.org/reports/2002/ipv6-allocation-policy-26jun02

paragraph 5.4.1 		[16:38]
up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: yeah, people debate this on the arin mailing list too. but i whole-heartedly believe in: /32 for ISPs, /48 for customers, /64 per VLAN. EASY EASY EASY [16:48]
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luckyWasn't assigning an /8 to MIT (for IPv4) done because it was... nice and round, too?
;) 		[17:07]
finkhi guys [17:10]
jdoeup_the_irons: my isp agrees. [17:12]
up_the_ironslucky: yes, but one of the goals of IPv6 is to simplify subnetting, *not* worry about IP exhaustion like we've had to do with IPv4
jdoe: cool 		[17:13]
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coilblah
trying to login to my customer portal, cant remember what pass i set it to, my email is down
im up shit creek 		[18:51]
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nestahi coil :) [18:52]
coilhiya nesta
i just need to know the vnc info
oh, chrome must be doing something funky 		[18:53]
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coilvnc dont seem to be working [18:58]
toddfif you can't hit your customer portal or the console site (did you send in your ssh keys?) you'll need to email support@ to gain access again. not sure how the procedure goes. in any event, if you know your vnc host and port and its not permitting a tcp connection, this means that the kvm process itself for your vps is hung or not running. stop + start would rectify it usually if you have access to the portal or console [19:02]
coilthe vps is fine
im about to reinstall tho so thats why i wanted to get on vnc
im able to login to the portal now but vnc just sits there saying connection established and its not prompting me to put my password in 		[19:02]
toddfhaving access to the portal means you can then upload ssh keys and access the serial console. at least for OpenBSD that's my preferred method since ddb> and other things are nicer to cut and paste from on serial vs vnc ;-)
text tends to scroll faster than graphics too *grin* 		[19:05]
coiloh thats new
cool i can add my own keys
ive never used the serial console though. do i just put in the info in putty or what? 		[19:05]
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coilhmm, it tells me the ssh command to type in but i cna't translate it to what i put in putty
to tunnel vnc over ssh 		[19:13]
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toddfin putty you insert the hostname in the hostname field and hit the connect button
you need to edit /etc/ttys and set tty00 to 'on' and 'secure' and 'kill -HUP 1' on your vps
if you want serial console for ddb> and the whole shebang .. put 'set tty com0' in /etc/boot.conf and reboot
you need the putty cmdline to use the keys though also
read the putty docs ;-)
or install cygwin and do 'ssh ..' like it says or install a unix for your desktop and use ssh like it says 		[19:20]
coilok
is there any way to change the vnc password? 		[19:23]
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coil-f isn't an option
the instructions say to use -f but that isn't a known option 		[19:30]
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nestawhat is SWIP data? in relation to IPV6 [19:35]
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coilugh
why did i pick a netinstall iso 		[19:54]
vcslol [19:54]
coilcant get it connected to the net
dunno why
the info is right
sup vcs
oh its installing 		[19:54]
vcslol
nm
at work
spit out 1000+ lines of C today
and still not done
:| 		[19:58]
coilheh damn [19:59]
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coiloh wtf
why do i have 7.2-rel
lol 		[19:59]
nesta..
heh 		[19:59]
coilmust be an old image [19:59]
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