#arpnetworks 2010-11-28,Sun

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RandalSchwartzupgrading neil's workhorse machien this morning. [07:05]
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what's the freebsd name for the serial console so I can enable a login prompt on it?
ttyu0 ?
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ttyu0 looks like it should already have a login prompt [07:28]
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neil's heavy machine is now up to 8.1p1
yeay
now just need to get red up to speed
should do it now while the procedure is fresh in my mind
bye bye uptime: 8:19AM up 90 days, 16:07, 0 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.21, 0.27
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dxtrhttp://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ecphi/i_saved_a_girl_from_drowning_she_then_sued_me_ama/
Hmm
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RandalSchwartzwell - things seem to be back to normal [10:30]
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dxtrWhy do every american I've spoken to think the solution to everything is shooting someone?
"Someone breaks into my house? SHOOT HIM!"
"Couldn't you just, uhm, use the locks on your door?" - "WHY DO THAT WHEN I CAN SHOOT HIM!?"
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BarberRonnyamerican houselocks are boltlocks , very crappy :) [12:09]
dxtrSo, invest some money in a better lock? [12:09]
jpalmerdxtr: where are you from? [12:09]
dxtrjpalmer: Sweden [12:10]
bob^^hey, i live in the UK
one night a few years ago i heard sometime trying to come in my bedroom window
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BarberRonnyi live in yemen [12:10]
jpalmerdxtr: do swedes get tired of the blond haired, blue eyed stereotype? [12:10]
bob^^let me assure you, that when this happens, your intention is simply to protect your family - you would happily damage the intruder enough to stop him [12:10]
dxtrjpalmer: Nah, we think it's awesome [12:10]
bob^^i did, by punching him in the head until he stopped moving
adrenaline is a great invention
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jpalmerdxtr: well, I assure you. "the americans" get tired of the "why do all americans" stereotypes. [12:11]
BarberRonnythe americans are provoking north korea :-) [12:11]
dxtrjpalmer: I said "all americans I've spoken to" to clarify that I mean "all americans I've spoken to" [12:11]
bob^^uh-oh [12:11]
BarberRonnyam just kidding ok? [12:12]
bob^^this could all be about to go political
:)
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dxtrI have not spoken to all americans [12:12]
BarberRonnyevery time i speak to americans they come up with new slang, and mine is already outdated [12:12]
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bob^^lol :) [12:13]
dxtrbob^^: But, sure, fisting someone in the face is one thing. But let's face it, most burglar are really quick to get out when they hear someone's home [12:13]
jpalmerjpalmer decides to set a few ignores, and end the whole thing. [12:13]
dxtrAnd, also, let's face it; Locks are designed to stop people from coming in [12:13]
bob^^they are
but they don't always work that well :)
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dxtrThen get a better lock [12:13]
bob^^jpalmer: possibly a smart move :)
bob^^ hopes he doesn't make the ignore list
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dxtrI'm assuming he ignores me :P [12:14]
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dxtrHm, how would I set up a 6in4 tunnel (or something) so I can route some ipv6 address' to some other place+
Think I found something finally
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jpalmerI never would have realized how many DNS and PTR requests ARP gets in a week. [14:50]
dxtr:D [14:56]
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finkhi amdprophet [18:58]
amdprophetyo [18:58]
finki'm almost finished with my solar panel [18:59]
amdprophetsomething network related went down or was DDoS'd a moment ago, everyone I asked couldn't get to any servers on arp :(
was down for like 5 mins
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finkthat sucks
my vpn is up
works here
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finkjpalmer: you have arp connect issues? [19:00]
amdprophetyea everything is working now [19:01]
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amdpropheta bunch of disconnects / reconnects from people in this channel while that was happening [19:02]
RandalSchwartzmy network was down too [19:05]
amdprophetdarn :( [19:05]
RandalSchwartzcouldn't ping arpnetworks.com too [19:06]
amdprophetI cried and curled up in a ball [19:06]
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finklol [19:07]
jpalmerfink: yeah, was dropping 98% of packets through apcketexchange
packetexchange*
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RandalSchwartzI see what you did there.
exchange some packets. :)
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finkanybody use ipython on OSX? [19:19]
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RandalSchwartzI'm sure someone must :)
never been much of a fan of python though
Always found perl to express the same construct more clearly
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jpalmerisn't "perl + clearly" an oxymoron? ;)
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RandalSchwartzyou know, I can't read russian. I never studied it. greek neither.
so when people say "I can't read perl", it only tells me that they haven't studied it.
and if people choose to be vocal about their own ignorance, oh well. :)
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jpalmertouche! [19:30]
mjp++ [19:31]
RandalSchwartz... http://blogs.perl.org/users/randal_l_schwartz/2010/11/perls-readability.html [19:34]
jpalmer1lol
while I agree with you in theory.. I know several perl programmers who actually say it's hard to read if not commented.. when they come back to their own code after a period of time.
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RandalSchwartzreplace perl by any other language in that sentence
and tell me with all honesty *unique to perl*.
I bet not
the closest I've seen to self-documenting code is well-written smalltalk
for everything else, comments are needed.
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jpalmerit's obvious that my tongue-in-cheek rhetoric has touched a sensitive spot. so I'll drop the (what I thought was an obvious) joke. [19:50]
RandalSchwartznot as sensitive as it looks. but it is something that deserves saying from time to time
I've learned not to poke fun at python indentation, for example
mostly because it's too easy a target
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finksorry i had to close my laptop
anybody use ipython on OSX?
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RandalSchwartzok - something is very weird here
local processes are not able to open sockets open locally
I think the network stack is getting badly messed up from time to time here
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jpalmerRandalSchwartz: do you happen to know of any sysadminny-type podcasts? [21:37]
RandalSchwartznot particularly about that [21:37]
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