#arpnetworks 2010-10-19,Tue

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heidarhi. just wanted to ask if you provide dns hosting to existing customers? [14:53]
up_the_ironsheidar: reverse dns, yes, but not forward dns (we don't host customer zones)
lots of registrars can do that for you (godaddy, register.com, enom, etc...)
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heidarMy registrar doesn't. But I just wanted to know, I can just use one of the free ones instead. cheers [14:56]
toothor choose another registrar. ;-) [14:56]
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up_the_irons:) [14:57]
heidartooth: There's only one registrar who sells the TLD I'm using ;) [14:58]
toothoh. interesting
and what TLD is that?
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tinonodns.he.net is pretty good as far as free dns hosting goes. [14:59]
heidarsoviet union .su
cheers tinono I'll have a look
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wwi use hetzner.de for dns hosting
... but only as secondary from a hidden master
heidar: can you still get .su addresses?
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dxtrheidar: What registrar is that? [15:02]
heidarYeah, nic.ru have been selling them for years now. They're quite cheap and they give you free whois privacy. [15:02]
dxtrAwesome [15:03]
toothyeah. I looked around for a private registrar [15:03]
wwtirami.su is taken :( [15:03]
toothnearlyfreespeech and gandi.net seem to do that [15:04]
dxtrtooth: Do what? [15:04]
toothdon't publish your WHOIS contact info to anyone with an internet connection [15:05]
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RandalSchwartzgoaheadand.su
people who hide their whois are always up to no good
as an avid anti-spammer, I think the practice should be abolished
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vcsuhhhh
i dont want my dox dropped
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RandalSchwartzare you talking to me? [15:08]
vcsyeah [15:08]
RandalSchwartzthen what is a "dox"? [15:08]
vcsdocuments
name, phone number, address
if trolls on irc get that stuff
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RandalSchwartzwell - if there's an anoymous layer, then the intermediary should assume responbsibility for whomever they are hiding [15:09]
vcsright
thats what i do
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RandalSchwartzso sure, if you hide behind Joe, and you do something bad, I can sue Joe instead of you [15:09]
vcsregister via a proxy [15:09]
RandalSchwartzand he's responsible for you [15:09]
vcsthats fine [15:09]
RandalSchwartzsadly, that's not likely anytime soon [15:09]
vcshow does one hide his dns reg info?
i did not know thats even possible
lol
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RandalSchwartzso we're still left in this crappy world
where people can spam and not get prosecuted
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vcsits easy i would imagine
just hack a bunch of boxes
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RandalSchwartzeven netsol lets you hide your stuff [15:10]
vcsand spam from them
?
im sure alot of them do that
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RandalSchwartzwell - there's still commmand and control
most windows machines are actually spambots now
millions of them
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heidarIs it really that hard to obtain someones details through a registrar when there is a legal issue? nic.ru take passport information when you register by the way. [15:11]
vcsyeah [15:11]
RandalSchwartzcontrolled by eastern bloc countries for the most part [15:11]
vcsheidar: if you have a supepeana
or however you say it
its easy
but of course you have to get that from a judge
[15:11]
RandalSchwartzthe international law is harder [15:11]
vcsyeah [15:12]
RandalSchwartzhave to go to the hague [15:12]
vcsmy boxes drop all international IP's [15:12]
RandalSchwartzand some countries still won't respect it [15:12]
heidarah right [15:12]
RandalSchwartzwhat is an "international IP"? [15:12]
dxtrRandalSchwartz: I followed your advice, btw. I am now using dns.he.net as backup for all my zones :) [15:12]
RandalSchwartzIPs don't know countries [15:12]
vcsi have huge list of allocations
by country
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RandalSchwartzgood job dxtr [15:12]
vcsi verify with whois [15:12]
RandalSchwartznow your secondary is on five continents [15:12]
dxtrHi-five! œ
o
I'm also considering buying an imac
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vcsthe countries we have perspective customers in
i unblock
but basically countries that are repeat offenders with no economy
will never be unblocked
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bob^^i disagree with doing that [15:14]
vcsmost attacks on my boxes come from the USA now
and i notify their ISP
i think in all my years of reporting spammers overseas
i have gotten one response
lol
alot of full inboxes
and alot of IP's with no abuse email that worked
when 95%+ cases are like that
that country does not need to connect to my email server
any of them
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tinonoeverytime I see someone banning a whole country from his mail server, I cry a little
especially given that the US is still #1 on spam :-p
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bob^^+1 [15:28]
tinonoif everyone blocks the us, china, russia and the UK (current top 4)
we're doomed!
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bob^^as a business, i'd be pretty annoyed if i found out my mail supplier was denying mail from entire countries
i agree with weighting some countries higher, so they trip spam filters easier, sure
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tinonoyeah that makes sense [15:30]
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vcshaha
well i am not a mail provider
i just dont want my company getting spam
if we are not in business from that country
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RandalSchwartzwe're #1! we're #1! [16:09]
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vcshaha
north korea does not need to be emailing us
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RandalSchwartzcould be Fearless Leader offering a personal apology
"and YOU sent it to SPAM!!!"
as long as you block it before port 25 handshake, and not after you accept, that'd work ok
then at least it'll bounce at the relay instead of being silently dropped
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vcslol
i probobly should do that ;)
but its actually my boss who added the rules lol
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jdoeRandalSchwartz: ah, there you are. Any sign of your ipv6 shirt?
heidar: nic.ru doesn't take passport information.
maybe if you're... russian or something?
jdoe dunno.
RandalSchwartz: I don't care if my registrar gives my details to LEO (or random lawyers), though I expect them to fight any groundless requests. That's quite a difference from giving that info to *anybody*
RandalSchwartz: it's the same reason I don't go around giving everybody I meet my full name, phone number and address.
jdoe replies to things hours later, like a champion.
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RandalSchwartzjdoe - I've had my ipv6 shirt for quite a while
sadly - I think it was part of the 1200 I donated to charity
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: is floss weekly available as a podcast? [18:11]
jdoeawww
mine hasn't showed :(
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RandalSchwartzup_the_irons - what else would it be? :)
it *is* a podcast.
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: hehe, ok :) [18:17]
RandalSchwartzwhat did you think it was? [18:17]
up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: just got a new ipod nano, so i'm going to be loading it up with some
RandalSchwartz: just an audio file of some sort
[18:17]
RandalSchwartzaha. yeah, the subscribe links are on twit.tv/floss
yeah - a web site is just some HTML too!
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up_the_ironsi'm a noob when it comes to podcasts
RandalSchwartz: yeah :)
[18:18]
RandalSchwartzyou can subscribe to audio, or even small or large video
the link there will open itunes to add it for you
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: ah nice [18:19]
RandalSchwartzthe rss feed has only 20 shows, but all the shows are actually available directly. [18:23]
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RandalSchwartzheh - I was playing my "teaser" from each of the 20 shows listed at http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=368823654
I do a bit for the video that doesn't end up in the audio
that's because the video runs in rotation on the live feed when live things aren't happening
so we need a teaser for people to know why to keep watching
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