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| RandalSchwartz | Hmm. Looks like the PCBSD-8.1 DVDs might be the right thing to mount and build from.... they can build FreeBSD or PCBSD, and use ZFS for root!
I'm downloading now to test | [07:56] |
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| yeah - pcbsd was *much* easier to install, even installing freebsd
and it made a root zfs just fine | [10:00] | |
| mattx86 | nifty :) | [10:00] |
| RandalSchwartz | no more "kldload /mnt/foo/bar/opensolaris.ko" crap | [10:01] |
| I'm running it inside virtualbox
virtualbox can do live migration... and I want to test that | [10:10] | |
| mhoran | Watch out ... don't want to get sued by Oracle. | [10:12] |
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| RandalSchwartz | I love how installing portupgrade on a new system installs both Perl *and* Ruby. :)
"no no, one scripting language was NOT enough for us" | [10:24] |
| dxtr | RandalSchwartz: And that's why you should use portmaster ;) | [10:25] |
| mhoran | portmaster.
:) | [10:25] |
| RandalSchwartz | Nope. Did you see the thread just now in fbsd users?
portmaster *doesn't* auto recover from failure portupgrade will reinstall the previous pack automatically if things go bad so it's ok if it needs more support, because it's doing more for more for me | [10:26] |
| dxtr | details | [10:28] |
| RandalSchwartz | indeed | [10:32] |
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| IPv6Freely | humph, qos | [10:57] |
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| mhoran_ | Yeah. | [19:52] |
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| mhoran_ | Nice. | [19:52] |
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| coil_ | sup with routing | [19:52] |
| mhoran | Oh hey I somehow stayed connected? | [19:52] |
| coil_ | ??? | [19:52] |
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| mhoran | Win. | [19:53] |
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| mhoran | v6 routing seemed to drop.
v4 was fine. | [19:53] |
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| coil_ | oh | [19:54] |
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| cmeiklejohn | WIN | [19:55] |
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| RandalSchwartz | tes
testing there... now it's working | [19:55] |
| mhoran | Yeah, we're back. :)
v6 dropped for a while there. | [19:58] |
| coil_ | it dropped again for me | [19:59] |
| mhoran | Hm. | [19:59] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah
for me too | [19:59] |
| coil_ | annoying | [20:01] |
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| IPv6Freely | sup doodz | [21:17] |
| mhoran | Tired.
Headache. | [21:18] |
| IPv6Freely | im on my iphone :D on my vps :) | [21:19] |
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| mattx86 | nifty :)
an ipad may be more appropriate though ;) I tried one out in a best buy.. looked pretty sweet even had internet on it too at the store, so i got to try safari online I guess its called safari on there too | [21:29] |
| IPv6Freely | im considering one but a kindle dx is more likely | [21:37] |
| RandalSchwartz | RandalSchwartz retries pcbsd with x64 version
so far so good | [21:47] |
| mattx86 | IPv6Freely: isn't that just for ebooks?
IPv6Freely: I'd kinda considered a sony reader | [21:53] |
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| mattx86 | RandalSchwartz: trying to get pcbsd/x64 with zfs going? | [21:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah
hmm. it booted once, but isn't rebooting. | [21:55] |
| mattx86 | that doesn't sound good | [21:56] |
| RandalSchwartz | and it could be virtualbxo too
it's waiting on usbus1 ahh, just had to wait another 10 secs | [21:57] |
| mattx86 | cool :) | [21:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah, it's working ok | [22:09] |
| building stuff now
speaking of which, I need to spin up on nagios quickly oh wait, there might be an o'reilly book on that | [22:15] | |
| IPv6Freely | mattx86: thats exactly what its for :) | [22:16] |
| RandalSchwartz | oh, tehre's many | [22:18] |
| mattx86 | RandalSchwartz: you might even check out CactiEZ; I just found out about it yesterday, but anyways, it also has nagios | [22:18] |
| IPv6Freely | RandalSchwartz: you want to look at the nagios book by wolfgang barth
RandalSchwartz: its the best nagios book ive found out there. RandalSchwartz: also, the #nagios people are great. I was a heavy nagios user at my last job :D | [22:18] |
| RandalSchwartz | how about the one from Dave Josephsen
I get that for free | [22:19] |
| IPv6Freely | theres lots of things that integrate cacti and nagios and such, i just personally prefer to keep them all seperate... seems to be better as far as updating
havent read that one | [22:19] |
| mattx86 | IPv6Freely: ah, right. I just don't know that I would use too many ebooks, at least, when you consider what all isn't available (tech material, at least) | [22:20] |
| RandalSchwartz | Building a monitoring infrastructure with nagios | [22:20] |
| IPv6Freely | i had my nagios install super tweaked. I had my core routers notifying me within 10 seconds of failure, with not a single false positive in 3 years.
mattx86: tons of tech material. not from the kindle store, but theyre 100% PDF compatible so id just load all my books on there that way mattx86: considered an ipad, but the e-ink is more valuable to me than all the ipad functions combined. i cant read off an LCD screen i can use a computer all day long, but when it comes to reading a big block of text, i swear i go crosseyed and lose focus | [22:20] |
| mattx86 | IPv6Freely: orly? see, I have at least one tech PDF I'd like to use on such a device, but a year or so ago, it meant you'd have to convert it to the device's format if you wanted proper text flow (or w/e they called it) | [22:23] |
| IPv6Freely | yea, they had a software update a while back that completely changed that
now its native pdf capable | [22:23] |
| mattx86 | ooh :) | [22:23] |
| IPv6Freely | And being a network consultant, having my books with me is incredibly valuable | [22:23] |
| mattx86 | kindle dx right? | [22:24] |
| IPv6Freely | yea, dx | [22:24] |
| mattx86 | how much do they go for nowadays? | [22:24] |
| IPv6Freely | the regular one is a 6" screen, perfect for novels, crap for tech books
they JUST refreshed the hardware a few weeks ago, so theyre kinda pricey DX is 299 i think | [22:24] |
| mattx86 | ah | [22:24] |
| IPv6Freely | wow, was i ever off
http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-DX-Wireless-Reader-3G-Global/dp/B002GYWHSQ/ref=kin3w_ddp_compare_title3 379 apparently | [22:25] |
| mattx86 | ouch, that's rich | [22:25] |
| IPv6Freely | yea. i wanted a QUE, which was like 849 or some ridiculous price, but it was an e-reader designed specifically for business use
it did ms word, ppt, excel, etc as well as read ebooks | [22:25] |
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| IPv6Freely | but, that got cancelled last week :(
the ipads are nice, and would be useful for a traveller such as myself, but without e-ink, the rest of the cool stuff is irrelevant | [22:26] |
| mattx86 | yeah, I see what you mean | [22:27] |
| IPv6Freely | nice to hear, the ipad fanboys just argue with me about it | [22:27] |
| mattx86 | I think the sony does the extras, but honestly, unless or until sony supports native PDF viewing, it's no dice | [22:27] |
| IPv6Freely | and believe me, if anyoneis an apple fanboy its me... but thats just because my mantra is and has always been: "best tool for the job", which means a macbook pro for a laptop, and i phone for a phone, and a kindle for an ebook reader. | [22:28] |
| mattx86 | (extras like word, ppt, excel and so forth) | [22:28] |
| IPv6Freely | the sony is nice, but it doesnt have a large-scale model like the kindle DX, it only has the small novel-sized model. and i dont know about pdf support.
the ipad fanboys argue about how much more stuff i get with an ipad... and i just cant convince them that a device that doesnt do my #1 needed function is worthless to me, no matter how many other things i can do. | [22:28] |
| mattx86 | well, they have an "every day" version I think it's called, that's supposed to be bigger than at least the pocket versions
true | [22:29] |
| IPv6Freely | like if i wanted to fly, telling me i could get a car with more features for the same price is absolutely irrelevant | [22:30] |
| mattx86 | heh, yeah :) | [22:30] |
| IPv6Freely | im going to try to convince our SD to buy kindle DX's for the whole team
Build up a database of tech book PDFs, and we can all have this huge library with us wherever we go i just wish Safari worked on the kindle ... oh my god that'd be epic. though, im sure safari would work perfectly on the ipad... which i suppose kind of sways my decision a bit sorry, babbling to myself | [22:31] |
| mattx86 | nah, sorry, I was chatting in another window :)
that does sound like a good idea esp. if safari worked on it :) the ultimate knowledgebase in your hands | [22:39] |
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| IPv6Freely | indeed | [22:56] |
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