#arpnetworks 2010-06-27,Sun

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dxtrHey, up_the_irons [05:46]
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RandalSchwartzup_the_irons? [11:55]
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nestahey RandalSchwartz [12:10]
RandalSchwartzhey nesta [12:10]
arenlorHello Randal [12:10]
RandalSchwartzhey arenlor
insightcruises.com has decided to get off EC2 entirely
just ordered a second machine at ARP
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arenlorAre they taking orders again? [12:11]
RandalSchwartzthey've always taken orders
it's just that there's a waiting list
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amdprophetanyone seen up_the_irons? got an emergency
emailed support already
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arenlorNope sorry, maybe one of us can help? [13:51]
amdprophetneed a new iso downloaded and mounted, ZFS took a dump on us
:(
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arenlorNice, can't you use the console to mount an iso? [13:53]
amdprophetI think garry needs to do it
we can't get into FreeBSD at all, won't get past the bootloader
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arenlorWell my console is not being very happy, otherwise I'd look, I thought I had seen an option to boot an iso in there. [13:59]
amdpropheti'll take a look
hmm great, i think my pubkey changed... hah
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arenlorThat's the issue I'm having
Though I don't remember it changing ^_^'
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amdprophetsame, i don't think i've regenerated it or formatted [14:01]
arenlorRandalSchwartz: You able to get in? [14:02]
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kangubeer drinkers! [14:51]
RandalSchwartzget in? [14:57]
arenlorTo the console [14:57]
RandalSchwartznot for the new box
apparently, I forgot to ask that the pubkey be assigned
I figured that'd just be automatic
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arenlorIt may be that something happened to it [14:59]
RandalSchwartzno, it doesn't show up in the list of machines assigned to that pubkey
some button needs to be pushed :)
amdprophet - you can boot from the ISO... at least, I can
just press I think it's F12 during bootup
as in, use the VNC
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arenlorSo how was YAPC? [15:03]
RandalSchwartzbusy... and having my laptop crash didn't make it any easier [15:04]
arenlorYeah, is it fixable? [15:04]
RandalSchwartzI don't know
taking it to genius bar tomorrow
I suspect a MoBo replacement
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arenlorThat's lovely, well at least you can do that [15:05]
RandalSchwartzeh? [15:05]
arenlormy one laptop died, it's a dell, so I'd have to find the specific motherboard for it on ebay [15:05]
RandalSchwartzreplacing a mobo means "leaving it with apple for a few weeks" [15:06]
arenlorDo you even get the same one back? [15:06]
RandalSchwartzit's hard to tell
generally, yes
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arenlorThe one time I ever sent a computer in, I didn't get the same one back. It sort of freaked me out that they wouldn't tell you. [15:08]
RandalSchwartzthat's why you're supposed to back up your data. :) [15:09]
arenlorI did, they sent back the same HDD in it
They replaced the shell and screen
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RandalSchwartzweird [15:10]
arenlorYeah, but they didn't charge me so it's fine, but still just a little off-putting
You like the *BSDs right? Which one do you think would be best for a laptop?
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RandalSchwartzI don't know. I don't run BSD on my laptop [15:12]
arenlorI've only ever gotten laptops, don't know why. [15:13]
RandalSchwartzme too
and they run OSX just fine
why would I run something less than OSX on a mac laptop?
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arenlorI wish I could have ever afforded to get an Apple [15:15]
RandalSchwartzafford? they're mostly on parity now
presuming you price the same setup
most people compare a stripped down machine against a full-featured apple. unfair.
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arenlorIt's usually 100-200 more for the Apple [15:16]
RandalSchwartzthe past days of "apple is overpriced" are long gone [15:16]
arenlorI generally can't afford the 100-200 extra [15:16]
RandalSchwartzwell - you're getting seomthing for that price difference
maybe it's something you don't need then
but if you stack up feature for feature, I doubt there's a "$200 difference" at that point
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arenlorI'm not sure what the bonus of getting an Apple is truly [15:17]
RandalSchwartzI'm not following you
it's not because it's apple.
it's because it has more things
the apple brand is not what makes it more expensie
anyway, I gotta go figure out why this disk copy is taking forever.
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arenlorHave fun [15:19]
RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz wanders off [15:19]
amdprophetRandalSchwartz: i need to boot from a different iso though [15:22]
RandalSchwartzamdprophet - ahh, yeah, that's gonna require tech support [15:25]
amdprophetdo you know if the number on the arp front page goes to garry? [15:26]
RandalSchwartzwhat iso do you have in there?
dunno
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amdprophetwe've got the mfsbsd iso (modified freebsd 8.0 image for ZFS on root) [15:26]
RandalSchwartzprobably a voicemail box [15:26]
amdprophetunfortunately we upgraded our ZFS version since the initial install and that disc doesn't support ZFS version 14 [15:26]
RandalSchwartzeww.
you should be able to "burn" your own isos from inside the VPS. :)
and then the console would activate a virtual hand to insert/remove them
maybe something inside second life interface
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amdprophethmm good idea [15:29]
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amdprophetup_the_irons: you around? [18:08]
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