#arpnetworks 2010-06-28,Mon

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amdprophetup_the_irons: around? [07:14]
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RandalSchwartzstill no sign of up_the_irons? [16:47]
up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: i am here [16:48]
RandalSchwartzAhh. I take it you've helped out amdprophet [16:48]
amdprophetYea we're all good now :) [16:48]
RandalSchwartzok - then I must be coming up in the queue at some point. :) [16:48]
up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: I saw you mention something about another vps, but i fulfilled that order like a week ago [16:49]
RandalSchwartzno - the problem is that it doesn't show up in the neilbauman console login
perhaps you didn't link it
it shows up on the portal, but not the console login
[16:50]
up_the_ironsoh, let me check...
indeed
updating...
[16:50]
RandalSchwartzcrap - that means that *I'm* back on the critical path. :)
I've been just blaming you. :)
[16:51]
up_the_ironswell it's kinda my fault the console login list wasn't updated ;)
ok, it's there now
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RandalSchwartzThanks. Now to build a zfs boot image again. [16:52]
up_the_ironswee [16:52]
RandalSchwartzif only you had one of those already prepared... :)
actually, with 8.1 coming out, I think sysinstall will build zfs directly
rather than having to do it from commandline
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infrared1up_the_irons: any idea when you will be offering more VPSs? [16:54]
up_the_ironsyeah it'd be nice to have one already prepared. too few hours in the day
man, i keep meaning to update the website...
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infrared1infrared1 slaps up_the_irons [16:54]
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up_the_ironsinfrared1: almost all server parts are here, just waiting on a couple more items [16:54]
infraredcool [16:54]
RandalSchwartz"power cable" [16:54]
infraredhaha [16:54]
RandalSchwartz"ethernet plug" [16:54]
infrared"mouse" [16:54]
up_the_ironsinfrared: then i will build it, test it, and start sending emails to all the pre-order people [16:55]
RandalSchwartz"virtual mouse"!
"virtual mouse balls"
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: i once had to wait a week for a little IPMI cable. sucks to have everything but be missing one little item, halts everything.
I ordered like 10 IPMI cables after that
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infraredup_the_irons: how far are you from the datacenter? [16:56]
up_the_ironsinfrared: 30 minutes usually [16:57]
infraredsexy [16:57]
up_the_ironsinfrared: i built a 24 cable run from my cab #1 to cab #4 (new), now *that* looked sexy. I shoulda taken some pics.... [16:57]
infraredi don't think there is anyone in the world more anal about cable management than me :) [16:58]
up_the_ironsall nice and neat, velcro'd, etc... [16:58]
infraredmmmm velcro [16:58]
up_the_ironsinfrared: I think I can beat you if you saw my 6513 wiring [16:58]
infraredheh [16:58]
up_the_ironsall 13 slots filled, mostly with 48 port rj45 cards
so there's a LOT of cable
but I made it look so nice
everyone asks, "who did this?" when they see it
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infraredat work, we "started" nice-nice, then the boss came in and wanted it done yesterday.. fuck it.. throwing cables over the racks, running along the floor :(
i was so pissed
that's why i never go into the computer room. i get all depressed when i look at the switch rack :/
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up_the_ironsinfrared: yeah that's usually what happens [17:03]
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jdoeinfrared: I try to make the best of things by never touching anything.
infrared: because if you go all overachiever to make things neat and tidy it's unmaintainable.
if it's the last thing on my todo list at a colo before I leave and the options are "take 15 minutes to cut something to length and run it nicely" or "just fucking plug something in and go", guess what I'm more likely to do?
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wackerHi all, I just called "The Planet" to ask them if they have IPv6 on their virtual servers. They don't.
No threat from them as far as I'm concerned.
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up_the_ironsI've heard some bad things about The Planet, so even if they did have IPv6, I'd still not be concerned ;) [19:01]
auyou should try googling them, just bad, bad, bad [19:06]
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wackerWell, just dropped in to send a message of support. I love the network connectivity we have, especially the IPv6!! [19:26]
RandalSchwartzipv6 ftw
since you can get ipv6 anywhere with miredo
and permanently with tunnelbroker.net
you can be v6 already
as in, if you don't know about tunnelbroker.net already, go check it out
*free* good quality v6-in-v4
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wackerI'm a very satisifed user of Hurricane Electric's services. That's how I ssh into my VH.
Satisfied, even.
[19:29]
RandalSchwartzwacker - exactly, and that they are so v6 aware... very nice
and offering things like miredo tunnels and tunnelbroker.net
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wackerWith their VPN, I'll be able to have IPv6 when I'm on the road. [19:30]
RandalSchwartzwhich vpn?
miredo?
or something else?
[19:32]
wackerPPTP. [19:34]
RandalSchwartzewww. [19:35]
wackerWorks fine under Linux, the only thing I use. [19:35]
RandalSchwartzbroken protocol [19:35]
wackerLinux, that is. Never used Windows. [19:36]
RandalSchwartzit's like saying "I use DES" :) [19:36]
wackerGiven where it comes from, I wuldn't doubt it. But it works for me.
When I grow up, maybe I'll learn to type.
[19:36]
RandalSchwartz"strong typing? tried it once. nearly ruined my keyboard."
ok - so presuming I wash my mouth out from PPTP, are you saying HE has a service for that?
[19:41]
wackerYes. One static *IPv4* address per tunnel. I guess they were concerned that the pool of IPv4 addresses weren't running out fast enough.
BTW, is anyone else doing VOIP over IPv6?
[19:44]
RandalSchwartzI'm sure they are
since v6 is just about the endpoint naming... :)
[19:46]
wackerCool. I'm using FreeSwitch. [19:47]
RandalSchwartzthe nice thing about v6 is (drum roll) *no* NAT.
yeay
no worries about nat-piercing protocols
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wackerI live in Denver. With Qwest, I first had a /29, later upgraded to a /28. Now I'm on Comcast with a /28. No nat here what so ever!! [19:48]
RandalSchwartzyeah, what about your devices in house? [19:49]
wackerI don't have mor than thirteen. When I do, the extra ones will have to be v6 only. [19:49]
RandalSchwartzahh, ok
yeah, comcast gives me a single addr
doesn't even promise it to be consistent, except it's consistent more than a year
[19:49]
wackerAre you signed up for their IPv6 trial? [19:50]
RandalSchwartzyes
HE gave me a /64, and a tunneled /48
nice
[19:50]
wackerCool. For a good time, do a traceroute over IPv4 to somewhere. Then use the host command on the IPv4 addresses in the for some of the routers in the Comcast network. [19:51]
RandalSchwartzso if I want all the atoms in my body to have ip addresses, they can now. :) [19:51]
wackerYepper! [19:52]
RandalSchwartzI'd like to broadcast a message to my liver cells... :) [19:53]
wackerWarning them about the impending binge? <grin> [19:53]
RandalSchwartzsure - alcohol kills brain and liver cells... but only the weak ones
just thinning the herd
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wackerwacker Shudder. [19:54]
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