#arpnetworks 2010-05-30,Sun

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dxtrUhm
For some reason my have had a flappy connection today
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mrbitwhoa
count me in on the topic.. I gotta goto work for a few hrs though.. bbl
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dxtrmrbit: Give the work to me instead :D
I'm gonna go unemployed in a couple of week
Can't even pay my phone bill then (Wich btw is the only expense I've got except for the VPS)
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dxtrthat kind of sucks
Looking for a job like crazy
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AndrewBCdxtr, do you do any python web developmen?
t* stupid t key is cutting out on me
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dxtrAndrewBC: Depends on how much you pay me [15:00]
AndrewBCHah. Usually people say that when it would require a lot
If you live in the USA, have had enough development experience enough to get started immediately on a Django project, and don't mind working for a shitty rate (15 USD or so an hour doesn't seem to phase my bosses, but 20+ does) as a remote contractor on oDesk, then I sure could use you.
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mike-burnsHi cmeiklejohn . [15:05]
cmeiklejohnhi mike-burns [15:06]
dxtrI don't live in the USA, have no development experience on a Django project, and I don't mind working for a shitty rate (15 USD or so an hour doesn't seem to phase your bosses, but 20+ does) as a remote contractor on oDesk, when do I start? [15:06]
up_the_ironsAndrewBC: you can find Python guys with Django experience willing to work for $15 / hr? [15:07]
AndrewBCHeh, well if I were in charge the non-USA would be no problem, but they want NDAs for everyone and are unable or unwilling to deal with complications from other countries' laws regarding NDAs [15:07]
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AndrewBCup_the_irons, no, that's the problem ;) I'm the only one stupid enough to do it [15:07]
up_the_ironsAndrewBC: LOL [15:08]
dxtrHonestly, I'd pick up Python and stuff to work $15/h right now
Because 1) I'm graduating in a couple of weeks and won't recieve any more study allowance after that 2) I need money
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AndrewBCI wish I could help you. :/ That whole NDA thing is stupid. [15:11]
dxtrwhat the hell is NDA? :D [15:11]
AndrewBCNot that you wouldn't undergo rigorous scrutiny from me if you suddenly lived in the USA ;P
Non-disclosure agreement
basically legally binding contract on mutual secret-keeping
well, not mutual actually, I suppose
but you get the gist
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dxtrhehe [15:12]
AndrewBCThe fun part is that the big secret they're wanting to protect is just an unimplemented idea with no specifications [15:13]
dxtrHaha [15:13]
AndrewBCIf they didn't make me sign an NDA first, I'd have known there was no secret to begin with!
AndrewBC coughs
So I'll be coming up with a crazy algorithm so they can patent it I guess...
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dxtrThey'd probably not hire me if it's a really secret secret
I'm apparently a SOCIALIST!
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AndrewBChahah [15:15]
dxtrAccording to someone I spoke to I live in a communist hellhole :(
I don't wanna live in a communist hellhole
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AndrewBCWhat? Where do you live? [15:16]
dxtrSweden [15:16]
AndrewBCHaha, yeah that's a hellhole alright. *rolls eyes*
I don't think I'd call Sweden communist
to me communism is oppressively enforced
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mike-burnsWe were discussing NDAs at work the other day (we have a ton of clients) and realized that not one of the NDAs we've signed has been for a secret idea. [15:18]
AndrewBClol
Yeah, NDAs are basically a feel-good mechanism these days
"If I tell you this, you won't tell anyone, right? Cross your heart and hope to die?"
I wonder if that there is no secret is itself a secret and thus I may have breached my NDA
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mike-burnsThen we discussed it more and realized that none of our successful clients came to us with an NDA. Pure coincidence, but with a large enough number for it to be an interesting coincidence. [15:20]
AndrewBCOuch [15:21]
mike-burnsHeh, I'm sure your project will be great, no worries. [15:21]
dxtrif you guys happen to get a job for me I'll be glad to take it, btw :D
Who would like a swede in their team?
I code C, C++ and perl
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AndrewBCHahah, thanks for trying, mike. :P [15:22]
mike-burnsdxtr: Are you an experienced or enthusiastic Rails developer willing to move to Boston? [15:22]
AndrewBCexperienced OR enthusiastic?! [15:22]
mike-burnsExperienced = full time employee, enthusiastic = full-time intern. [15:22]
AndrewBCNice loophole there for the unexperienced
heh
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dxtrmike-burns: Will you be giving me a 100Mb connection? Because I'm not that eager to downgrade [15:23]
mike-burnsdxtr: If you're willing to live in a suburb, yes. [15:23]
dxtrI live in a suburb now. Wanna see? :)
I can google map it!
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mike-burnsAndrewBC: It's basically the realization of the "what is OO not a good task for?" interview question---if the interviewee is enthusiatic about Rails they clearly don't have enough experience! [15:24]
AndrewBCmike-burns, hah. Nice. [15:25]
mike-burns(The analogy with that interview question is: if they're so enthusiastic about OO that they can't list what it's bad at, they clearly don't have enough OO experience.) [15:25]
AndrewBCyep [15:25]
dxtrhttp://tinyurl.com/2dbd773 [15:26]
AndrewBCThat's a great interview question [15:26]
dxtrOpps wrong [15:26]
AndrewBCI'm gonna yoink that [15:26]
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dxtrhttp://bit.ly/cUeDzn [15:26]
mike-burnsPlease do! [15:26]
dxtrThere
That's where I live
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mike-burnsThat is indeed a suburb. [15:27]
dxtrActually it is
If you were sarcastic
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mike-burnsI wasn't. [15:27]
dxtrAt least we've got 100Mb connections o [15:28]
jdoemike-burns: I've only had to sign NDAs with Very Large Companies (tm)(r)(c) and companies that have been burned by employees/contractors before. [15:28]
mike-burnsYeah it's easier to change infrastructure in a less populated area. I'm stuck on DSL in the heart of Boston; great location, crap service.
jdoe: Ah, those NDAs make sense.
We get NDAs from Web startups who read on the Web that it's a good idea.
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dxtrI'd like some kind of work actually :/
I can drive forklift trucks!
Kind of hard to do that at distance
But still
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jdoemike-burns: that's not unreasonable, having to actually sue could kill a small company. Shrug.
granted, I agree, there's no point if the info's not secret in the first place.
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mike-burnsYeah. [15:32]
AndrewBCYeah [15:33]
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mrbiti saw a namehighlist but not where and my ears are burnin
:P
what's going on
eyes rather
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dxtrYay!
I got money!
My study allowance!
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mrbitthat's always good!
^5
ehh, that was lil gay
heh
anyway
whats up?
someone call?
ok.. i must be blind or its cleared the buffer.. if ya need something mobilemail is mrbit@epbfi.com
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dxtrWould we need you for something specific?
:)
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mrbityeah ^--up there i said i saw where my name had been highlighted with my term config [16:37]
dxtrRight
http://www.hostdime.com/web-hosting/vps/
Hmm
Check their VPS.3 solution
1536MG of Memory
1536MG!!!!
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mrbitdamn [16:50]
btw, that email was bunk man
thats for emergencies only
heh
bbl
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dxtrmrbit: Just wanted to tease you ;
;)
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mrbithehe,i tnoiced
its cool
just use it for rael needs plz
l:P
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