#arpnetworks 2010-05-17,Mon

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vtomsup_the_irons: did you see an unusual spike in traffic to my VM? I got in this morning and the server was timing out on request [07:29]
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dxtrRandalSchwartz! [11:05]
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jdoemorning. [11:41]
RandalSchwartzfor another 10 minutes, it still is, yes [11:44]
mike-burnsSpeak for yourself.
I haven't seen morning in hours!
[11:44]
RandalSchwartzI often do [11:44]
mike-burnsAh, good. [11:45]
AndrewBChi [11:45]
jdoehaha. [11:46]
RandalSchwartzlook what you started! [11:47]
AndrewBCAndrewBC terrorizes the channel [11:48]
nuke`mike-burns i send a mail to support yesterday cause i lost access to my vps
could u check it out
its always pingin out of irc as u can see nukeAFK
hours and hours always pingin out
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mike-burnsI'm not actually an ARP admin, just an IRC op.
Sorry!
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nuke`oh ok
ty
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RandalSchwartznuke` - does it do that even after rebooting? [11:51]
nuke`cant reboot it [11:51]
RandalSchwartzwhat kind of "cant"? [11:51]
nuke`cant access it vnc o ssh
or*
[11:51]
RandalSchwartzbut a hard boot would work
or haven't you tried
[11:52]
nuke`how i do thart? [11:53]
RandalSchwartzit's on your VPS page
under "actions"
[boot] [shutdown (graceful)] [shutdown (hard)]
use "hard"
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nuke`let me check, didnt even noticed that [11:53]
RandalSchwartzthat's a poweroff to the VM
you might try "graceful" first, wait two minutes
that's a "power is about to fail" signal
some kernels respond nicely to that
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nuke`ok done it, let see if resolves it, ty alot [11:54]
RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz bows
RandalSchwartz hits head on desk
ouch!
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nuke`hehe [11:55]
dxtrAny recommendations on programs to write school stuff on? OOo feels bloated [12:00]
jdoeshrug. [12:00]
dxtrat least for my needs [12:00]
jdoevim? [12:00]
RandalSchwartzheh... ipv6.chat.us.freenode.net has IPv6 address 2001:19f0:feee::dead:beef:cafe [12:00]
cedwardsvim [12:00]
RandalSchwartzdead beef cafe :) [12:00]
cedwardsthat's great [12:01]
dxtrjdoe: I'm using emacs nowadays P
:P
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RandalSchwartzemacs ftw [12:01]
jdoelol
0xDEFEC8ED ("defecated") is the magic number for OpenSolaris core dumps.
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dxtrIt's not a program, but is LaTeX any good? [12:03]
RandalSchwartzmy network password here is "adeadbeefbabe" :) [12:03]
mike-burnsI wrote all my school stuff using vim+LaTeX. [12:03]
RandalSchwartzthey wanted 13 chars, but I didn't if it had to be hex
turns out, it's 13 ascii chars
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mike-burnsThe editor isn't very important, but to say that LaTeX is "very good" would be a major understatement. [12:04]
RandalSchwartzbut I still like the hexness
if you can think like knuth. :)
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jdoejdoe cannot. [12:27]
RandalSchwartzcanot?
cannot?
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jdoeindeed.
Would be nice if texshop existed on !osx
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mike-burnsHow about LyX? [12:29]
jdoedidn't like that much.
(but I don't remember why)
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nuke`ty RandalSchwartz that did the trick [13:19]
RandalSchwartzcool
but it still shouldn't have gotten wedged
maybe you can review the logs to figure it out
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up_the_ironsvtoms: there was a spike at approx 7:30am pst and 10:30am pst [13:59]
vtomsup_the_irons ok weird, it seems to be back to normal now [14:00]
up_the_ironsvtoms: cool
dxtr: I used LyX (a LaTeX WYSIWYG front-end) for all my college papers and lab reports. Made the most bad ass looking reports.
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dxtrup_the_irons: Cool
Damn
A shitload of dependencies :D
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up_the_ironsyes
tons of fonts, text processors, etc...
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dxtr761MB :( [14:07]
up_the_ironsLOL [14:07]
dxtrI think I'll install it on my school computer instead
:D
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up_the_ironsdxtr: you want it on a local machine, as it is an X program
anyone good with CVS?
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RandalSchwartzonly to help people migrate off it to a real VCS [14:10]
up_the_ironsI want to see a file at revision XX and can't figure out how to do it
RandalSchwartz: yeah i hear ya
i use it only for rancid, b/c it doesn't support anything else
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RandalSchwartzcvs co -rsomething path/to/file
or something like that
cvs co --help :)
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up_the_ironsjust logs and diffs my switch / router config
yeah i tried 'co' and it wants a "module", w/e
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RandalSchwartzoh ... that's not it then
you're already in a CVS repo?
or you are looking at a cvs server, and need something from it?
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: i'm in the repo, it's local
cvs co -p -r 1.86 core1-bur-gige
cvs checkout: cannot find module `core1-bur-gige' - ignored
bah, fuck u cvs
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dxtrup_the_irons: I mean, it's running windows [14:13]
up_the_ironsdxtr: wait whut? [14:13]
dxtrMy school computer [14:13]
up_the_ironsi c [14:13]
dxtrIt's a laptop. I've got it here [14:13]
RandalSchwartzRandalSchwartz gets packed up to fly to LA tonight [14:13]
dxtrYou know, the schools gives us free laptops
:D
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up_the_ironsnice [14:13]
RandalSchwartzwipe the laptop, put a real OS on it [14:13]
dxtrschool* [14:13]
RandalSchwartzPCBSD would work pretty well [14:14]
dxtrRandalSchwartz: Actually we're not allowed to do that (Not that I care) - and it's a crap HP with bad support
s/support/drivers/
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RandalSchwartzyou're not allowed to be more productive than everyone else?
how unfair. :)
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dxtrWe're not allowed to re-install Windows :p
Not that anyone cares about that.
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RandalSchwartzoh - there's the linux that can boot from inside a windows file
we had them on floss weekly
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dxtrYeah, I've seen it [14:15]
RandalSchwartzWubi
you could run that, and then you'd have a decent OS, but could always reboot back to Windows as "proof"
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dxtrAs I said; no one really cares
I've encrypted my drive too even though we're not allowed ;)
Set a BIOS password so they can't network boot it
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: ah, it's here: http://www.dyna.org/Developers/subversion [14:16]
dxtrDon't know how secure the BIOS is - but still [14:16]
RandalSchwartzsubversion? I thought you said cvs [14:17]
up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: the equiv of 'svn cat' is what i'm looking for [14:17]
RandalSchwartzOh! as a way of moving people
yes that makes perfect sense... use the "update" command to "cat" the file
RandalSchwartz facepalms about cvs
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up_the_ironsRandalSchwartz: i did, but i know how to do it in git and svn, just not cvs. and googling for "cvs version of git show" probably wouldn't return much ;) [14:17]
dxtr!"#ยค%&/
How the hell do I install custom fonts in Ubuntu 10.04?
Can't install the fonts I want :(
They're not in apt
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RandalSchwartz... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
See "Manually"
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dxtrbeen there, done that [14:18]
RandalSchwartzI hope that doesn't mean "using a magnet" :) [14:18]
dxtrBut it doesn't even catch them
it = fc-cache
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up_the_ironsah beautiful: cvs up -p -r 1.86 core1-bur-gige [14:19]
RandalSchwartzyou have truetype fonts?
end in .tt or something?:
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dxtr0.pcf
.pcf*
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RandalSchwartzpcf isn't a tt font, I don't think
you might need to convert them
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dxtrWhat if I don't want tt? :( [14:23]
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dxtrOkay... I kind of got it working now .P [14:55]
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dxtrYay! Totally got i working now [15:44]
it* [15:53]
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finkhi guys!
where can i get an arpnetworks tshirt?
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jdoeuhh... walmart will get you a shirt and a sharpie. [17:05]
cedwards+1 [17:09]
jdoeI suggest "ARPNETWORKS IS THE SHIT"
but feel free to toss in a couple speling mistaykes for colour as you see fit.
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finkhey i'm serious [17:13]
mhoran[jUaReZ]Heh. [17:17]
jdoefink: and I'm not? [17:19]
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up_the_ironsfink: you really want a shirt? [17:39]
finkup_the_irons: yea ;) [17:39]
up_the_ironsi actually have some, hand-made in the phillipines
my old partner was from there, and when he went to visit relatives, he'd get street vendors to knit us shirts
but alas, i have no shirts for the general populous
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finkup_the_irons: no way, awesome
do i count as a member of the general populous?
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up_the_ironsway
fink: yes
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finkor of the arpnetworks special clique? [17:57]
RandalSchwartzsafely at PDX
now just waiting to board my flight to LAX
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up_the_ironsthere is no special clique [17:57]
finkthere's #arpnetworks on autojoin [17:57]
RandalSchwartzif there *were* a special clique, not sure we would tell you. :) [17:58]
finkfink harrumphs. [17:59]
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cedwardscedwards buys fink a shirt with the word "harrumph" embroidered on it. [18:16]
finkcedwards: make sure it has a pic of eyore on it [18:16]
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cedwardshttp://www.performanceboats.com/html/youBoat/data/500/eeyore.jpg - caption "Harrumph!" [18:18]
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jdoeRandalSchwartz: there is no cabal [20:21]
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awyeahYou should do t-shirts.
Or mugs or other crap. Your logo is cool.
cafepress.com.
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mike-burnsSneakers and wristwatches. [21:00]
awyeaharp networks condoms. The globe logo goes at the end. [21:01]
finkstuffed animals
awyeah: aw i was just going to say condoms
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awyeahWait. That might not be super professional. So if, like, that's the kind of image you're going for... don't do it.
BTW, any idea on when more VPS space will be available?
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finkhow about arpnetworks assless chaps?
awyeah: your turn
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awyeahall chaps are assless
although saying assless chaps does sound nicer.
Seriously though, geeks like me like mugs and other crap
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finki have no use for a mug
i could use an arpnetworks tissue box
sanitary wipes?
i know, great ideas right?
i have a lot more where those came from
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awyeahsanitary wipes could have promise.
But it could be a PR issue wiping ass with a company's logo..
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finkhehe
i think tissue boxes and little body lotion bottles would be perfect
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awyeahGeeks don't moisturize. [21:07]
finkfink thinks he's going to get kicked
awyeah: do i have to spell it out for you
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awyeahOh that reminds me, I gotta set up my tarsnap cron job.
ah fsck it, I'll do it tomorrow.
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awyeahdammit. reverse ipv6 DNS not working.
Try this again.
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awyeahOh well. It'll refresh eventually. [21:20]
homosaurYES i have defeated nginx on the field of combat
i almost went back to apache twice, but dammit, i hit #nginx and got the dang thing working finally
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finkhow are you testing it?
homosaur: have you tried cherokee? it's fantastic
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awyeahwhat's so bad about apache? :) [21:27]
finkhuge memory footprint [21:27]
homosaurfink: what would be the benefit to something like cherokee? it looks pretty neat just from the website
awyeah: yeah, memory
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finkhomosaur: faster, less memory, amazing admin util [21:28]
homosaurawyeah: also, complication [21:28]
finkawyeah: for interpreters, it's more secure [21:28]
homosaurfink: would you recommend it over something like nginx? i might have to take a look. i moved to nginx from lighty and am mighty impressed with it [21:28]
finki use: django -> uwsgi -> cherokee -> cherokee proxy
homosaur: i have limited experience with nginix, but nginix is cool
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homosaurfink: i shall have a look, but the main reason i'm on nginx is the the passenger support. cherokee looks really neat though, i had never heard of it [21:29]
finkhomosaur: the admin interface really did it for me; i'm sick of cryptic stupid text files [21:29]
homosaurfink: wow, this is impressive. i might try and deploy this next time i'm working on a non-rails project [21:31]
finkhomosaur: i think passenger works with it
there are people in #cherokee who talk about rails
but i don't know much of anything about ruby
i guess i will have to learn, to script sketchup
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homosaurfink: i'll look into it, i just fought a war with nginx to get wordpress working correctly [21:33]
finkhomosaur: lots of peopl with wordpress in cherokee [21:33]
homosaurnginx/php fcgi were not the problem, my lack of experience configuring nginx was
i'm used to things just sort of working with apache, and php is a little tricky at first
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finkbedtime for me
bye
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