#arpnetworks 2010-04-15,Thu

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WhoWhatWhen
auabout 3 hours from there
on the border :)
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up_the_ironsamdprophet: http://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/4522413173/in/photostream/
amdprophet: man this thing is QUIET
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bob^^30w, nice
i'm guessing that'd be even less in the UK on 230v :)
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up_the_ironswell let's see... [03:01]
auhehe nice
which o/s?
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up_the_ironsbob^^: i think it'd still be 30W, just less current used (amps)
bob^^: so less dissipation, and in that sense, a bit less power
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bob^^yeah
nice little box, ideal with the CF :D
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up_the_ironsau: trying various OS's [03:06]
au:) not windows I hope [03:06]
up_the_ironsbob^^: yeah, the CF is nice, but disk I/O kinda blows; guess i shouldn't expect much, it's CF after all...
au: not windows :)
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augreat [03:07]
bob^^yeah, the bottleneck will definitely be the CF card itself :)
perfect for a little monitoring server though
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auhow much was that up_the_irons?
I need to replace my home server, it's a 1u 2x xeon 2.8, 4gb ram and 2x 74gb (or 73gb?) scsi hd
very good server, but uses too much power
interested in these atom servers
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up_the_ironsbob^^: order the CF/SATA converter, which says 150 Mbps (so 18.75 MB/s), even though the CF card is a 266x high speed card, which is rated at 40 MB/s
au: $269 shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262
au: just add ram and your choice of HD
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auooh
bargain
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up_the_ironsau: bet your Xeon is 110W TDP. This Atom is 8W TDP ;) [03:09]
aunot sure, they're basically p4's
do newegg ship to .au?
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up_the_ironsau: no idea [03:12]
auhm okay :) [03:12]
bob^^that is a good price
i bet in the UK that's £269
normally how it works for us :(
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au:/ [03:13]
up_the_ironscheaper here: http://www.provantage.com/supermicro-sys-5015a-h~7SUP91AQ.htm [03:13]
augah they don't [03:15]
up_the_ironsau: what about provantage? [03:15]
auhttp://www.priceusa.com.au/
hm loading that pge now
hm they ship here
great
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up_the_ironscool! [03:18]
nenolodrackmounts, etc have preassembled supermicro servers with max RAM and 500GB(?) HDD for $300
(atom)
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dxtrThat's cheap [03:19]
up_the_ironsnenolod: lol, when did you get here? ;) [03:20]
dxtrup_the_irons: Shouldn't you go to bed, btw? Isn't it kinda late (early?) over there? :P
You're kinda in the wrong time zone
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nenolodit's 3AM in california [03:20]
dxtrexaftly. It's 12 here :D
exactly*
I'm considering going to school
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up_the_ironsdxtr: i already slept some; then woke up and wanted to play with my atom :) [03:21]
dxtrI got an atom box as a router
:)
But I think I need to replace is because I want it fanless or something
it*
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bob^^i'm thinking of getting an atom machine to replace my old celeron home server [03:22]
dxtrGah. Can't type [03:22]
bob^^which uses loads of power [03:23]
up_the_ironsbob^^: i bet
dxtr: can an atom be fanless?
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dxtrup_the_irons: yep
I've seen lots of fanless atom setups :9
:)
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up_the_ironsdxtr: nice
up_the_irons ponders disconnecting the fan header...
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dxtrBUT! I wouldn't do it with any atom board [03:27]
up_the_ironsup_the_irons stops
;)
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dxtrFor example the one I've got (Intel D-something-something-something) the north bridge (is it called that in english?) gets really hot
I mean.. Like.. You can fry eggs on it
So I need a fan on that one. But I haven't got a fan or something on the CPU
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bob^^yeah - i've seen boards where the d945 chipset has a fan, but the atom doesn't (just a big passive heatsink)
the chipset used to use more power than the atom, i think there's a new chipset now though :)
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nenolodup_the_irons, a while ago. [03:30]
dxtrD945GCLF2
That's the one I've got
according to sysctl -a in obsd
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bob^^yeah, i think that's the 'hot' one :) [03:30]
nenolodup_the_irons, i was going to get an arp networks vps but then i moved my fremont stuff to LA instead because Hurricane was having problems keeping their power distribution system from catching on fire [03:30]
dxtrI friggin' Love openbsd. Might not be the most performing OS but it's rock solid and just plain awesome
It's real love I'm talking about. I'm going to marry obsd
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nenolodi'll stick with debian :p [03:32]
dxtr:( [03:32]
bob^^:(
it's gotta be *bsd
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dxtrI use freebsd on the vps and that's awesome too [03:32]
up_the_ironsnenolod: LOL, catching on fire? wow [03:33]
bob^^i'm freebsd pretty much everywhere :) [03:33]
dxtrbob^^: I don't use freebsd on my router :)
I use obsd there
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nenolodbob^^, debian is more useful to me given the amount of infrastructure i have [03:33]
bob^^i've got a netscreen at home for that ;) [03:33]
dxtrI got an atom box o [03:33]
bob^^used to use freebsd for it though, always worked great :D [03:33]
dxtrHehe
Anyhow. I'm going to school now (I think)
Unless I turn around on the way there
Bye!
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up_the_ironshad to bounce eth0 on the atom cuz my ping flood seems to have killed something; bum rtl8169
shucks, too bad
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bob^^ugh, realtek
any pci headers for a decent nic? :)
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up_the_ironsyeah.. i can put 1 PCI-E (x4 or x8) card in [03:36]
bob^^nice [03:37]
up_the_ironsneed a riser though
then i can put in an intel dual port ET
which costs half as much as the box itself ;)
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auhttp://www.news.com.au/technology/microsoft-accused-of-52c-an-hour-slaves/story-e6frfro0-1225854187905 heh [03:38]
bob^^worth it though up_the_irons :) [03:39]
up_the_ironsyeah :) [03:40]
aemhiya up_the_irons :) I do believe your the boss man. I would like to order a FreeBSD vps, is there a wait time at the moment?
you're*
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up_the_ironsaem: no wait besides the regular 24 hours [03:52]
aemokey dokey
I will place the order now
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up_the_ironsaem: great :) [03:55]
nenolodup_the_irons, yes. on fire.
up_the_irons, twice. then we found out the HE reseller we were using was bankrupt.
up_the_irons, which really made things interesting.
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up_the_ironsnenolod: oh jeez
sounds very interesting indeed
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nenolodby interesting, i mean rather annoying. [03:56]
up_the_ironsfor sure [03:56]
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opssysarchhello, anyone working for support at arpnetwork here now ? [11:55]
mike-burnsI do not work for ARP Network. What is your question? [11:56]
opssysarchoh , my request was to get a management console account, becoz i was dumb enough to lock myself out of my openbsd vm by not adding myself to the wheel group and can't su - anymore
i haven't heard back from anyone yet so i was following up with some one to see if i could get a status update
**some here
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mike-burnsDid you email support@ with your SSH public key? [11:59]
opssysarchyes i did [11:59]
mike-burnsup_the_irons is in charge of that and, depending on time of day, he may be busy. Sorry. [12:00]
opssysarchcool [12:00]
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dxtrup_the_irons: honestly. My SSH key isn't working to the management console thing
I think :p
At least I can't conect
connect
I'm using PuTTY
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finkdxtr: you should post your error
and use verbose mode
usually it's -vvv
i don't know about putty though
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