#arpnetworks 2010-03-18,Thu

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dxtrGuys!
I got some money!
I'M ALIVE!
Well, I got 1000 SEK (140 USD) but I'm running kinda short again (Paid back some friends, bought some beer and a pizza yesterday and saved some for phone bills etc.)
But still
Anyhow, I'm about to order a VPS now! :D
Do I have to fill in a state? Because we don't have states the same way as in the US
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bob^^i think i left the state blank dxtr
or put your county/district
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dxtrYeah, I had to fill in a state
So I did :p
Hmm, 24-48 hour waiting time
So... I'll sit here and wait
I'm at school now
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dxtrOkay, so like 23 hours to go [02:23]
bob^^it's not an exact time dxtr :)
you'll get it when it's ready, and it's worth the wait
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dxtrHehe, yeah
But still :D
It's better if I assume 24 hours!
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awyeahSo do any OpenBSD mirrors have the 4.7 ISOs yet?
oh, wait, I misread. not released yet ;)
awyeah moron.
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dxtrdxtr whistles
Still waiting for my mail :D
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Hmm... What to do while I'm waiting? [11:49]
toddfprepare your configs? [11:52]
dxtrAlready got 'em prepared
Most of it anyway .p
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mike-burnsSecond-guess your decision of OS? [11:55]
DaCa:) [11:56]
dxtr:p [11:56]
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If I'm guessing right it's lunch over there right now
So.. I probably won't get that mail within an hour or so
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mike-burnsHe normally does new stuff at night. [12:17]
toddfdxtr: just so you know, provisioning happens at night, so if you didn't get it over last evening the next opportunity is tonight [12:17]
dxtrGah
Well, I ordered it at like 9-10 (CET) this morning I think :P
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dxtrHrm, according to the Support page you are using the method described at http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2317 for reverse ipv4, right? But as far as I can see it describes like 2-3 methods? :) [13:35]
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blovettdxtr, 2-3 methods? You mean 2-3 different ways of declaring the records? [17:41]
dxtr, example of how I do it. http://pastebin.com/UpiEdwm8 - it can be painful to setup the side that's delegated (so, arp in this case), but it's pretty easy for the end users. [17:47]
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amdprophetup_the_irons: still having level 3 issues?
er, level 3 still having issues *
half asleep...
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up_the_ironsamdprophet: not that i know of [18:45]
amdprophetwe're getting some really weird issues and it doesn't seem to be happening on our side [18:46]
up_the_ironstraceroutes? [18:47]
amdprophetwe're hosting a DNS server on our box and we've probably got like 30 domains or so, some people aren't able to resolve DNS for some of the domains at times but are able to ping the IP of our server, it happened on my phone today as well
I was able to resolve aelatis.com (our dns server) but wasn't able to resolve picgarage.net (a jail on the same box), but could ping both IPs
yet others could resolve picgarage.net, so i was thinking that there may be an issue between the root DNS servers and our box, perhaps some of the root DNS servers think our box is down due to level 3 route failure?
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up_the_ironsnot sure why root dns would get involved... i mean, clients eventually ask your server for the resolution
root dns servers don't keep track of your box being up/down, they'll respond with what they know, either way
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amdprophetah alright, I wasn't 100% sure on how they worked [18:51]
up_the_ironsamdprophet: yeah, i don't think they'd come into play in this situation [18:52]
amdprophetback to the drawing board and searching through logs [18:53]
up_the_ironsall in all, from what you have described, as you can imagine, there's a lot of things that could be going wrong, and it is hard to tell what
when you aren't able to resolve a domain, you could try a "dig +trace +<whatever other debug options you can find> <domain>"
to get a idea of what is going on
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amdprophethadn't thought of dig, thanks [18:55]
up_the_ironsnp [18:55]
amdprophethaha
i've got a friend that says he knows the building you're at (peer1 or something)
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up_the_ironsamdprophet: we're at 900 n. alameda, lots of big guys around here. verizon, activision, slide, etc...
i haven't seen peer1, they might be at one wilshire
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amdprophetmmm activision, you should go trash their stuff for me :P
making me pay too much for map packs
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up_the_ironsLOL
amdprophet: they are in the cage next me.. if i trash their stuff, they might retaliate ;)
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amdprophetdo the ol' dog poop in bag trick and then laugh as their sys admins go crazy to put it out [18:58]
up_the_ironshaha [18:59]
amdprophetjust make sure not to trigger those poisonous fire extenguisher systems, i heard those are nasty [18:59]
up_the_ironsfm-200?
or haleon
*halon
(i forgot)
i think fm-200 replaced those
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amdpropheti think haleon, that's what the london drugs datacentre has here
it's old school though, they're still running the old p3 netburst xeons
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up_the_ironsyeah
i think we should just have the system that sucks all the oxygen out of the room ;)
and hope no one is in it.... ;)
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amdprophetrofl [19:00]
blovettisn't halon illegal? [19:01]
up_the_ironsblovett: it may be now; replaced with fm-200 [19:01]
amdprophetif i ever own a datacentre, i'm not going to bother with security guards... i'll have a robot that has a chainsaw and flamethrower... no one will ever mess with it [19:02]
ToastyXweird
I can't resolve aelatis.com
so I'm digging through to see why
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amdprophetToastyX: thanks :) [19:02]
up_the_ironssecurity guards are half useless at most data centers [19:02]
ToastyXbut I don't see anything obviously wrong [19:02]
up_the_ironsresolves for me :) [19:03]
blovettup_the_irons, they only seem to be there to annoy the people there. [19:03]
amdprophetup_the_irons: sounds like the optimal job for the lazy person, eat donuts and watch security cams all day [19:03]
up_the_irons$ host aelatis.com
aelatis.com has address 206.125.174.234
aelatis.com mail is handled by 100 mail.aelatis.com.
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blovettespecially at one wilshire.. :-/ [19:03]
up_the_ironsworks from slicehost too [19:03]
blovettI hate the one wilshire security guards. [19:03]
up_the_ironsblovett: yep
amdprophet: i catch them sleeping at times (when I come at like 3am)
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amdprophetROFL [19:04]
blovettlol. [19:04]
amdprophetdress up in a very cheaply made burglar costume... in fact dress up as the hamburgler [19:05]
up_the_ironsor playing their DS
i should tell them to get a PSP
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amdprophetand tip toe into the datacentre [19:05]
up_the_ironshahahaah
that'd be great
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amdprophetwhen they review the security tapes they'd just be like WTF? [19:05]
ToastyXamdprophet: what DNS software are you using [19:06]
amdprophetpdns [19:06]
up_the_ironswth
never even heard of it...
;)
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amdprophetpowerdns... lol
only using it for it's geo-ip capability and postgres backend
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blovettamdprophet, my digs are saying that ns{1,2}.aelatis.com can't be found. [19:07]
up_the_ironsah ok, i've heard of powerdns [19:07]
ToastyXwell it's acting strange [19:08]
amdprophetblovett: that's... odd [19:08]
ToastyXit's doing weird things [19:08]
blovettbut the tld servers have the A record for them. [19:08]
up_the_ironssame here:
$ host ns1.aelatis.com
Host ns1.aelatis.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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blovettyou have the ns1 and ns2 records on your side too? [19:08]
ToastyXyour servers WERE returning ns{1,2}.aelatis.com for a bit
then it stopped and returned NXDOMAIN
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blovettoh, heh. [19:08]
amdprophetwell that could definitely be an issue [19:09]
up_the_ironsamdprophet: from slicehost: http://pastebin.com/4uDMa5B1 [19:10]
amdprophetthanks, the A records seem to be missing [19:10]
up_the_ironsamdprophet: maybe the people that _can_ resolve your domains have ns1/ns2 cached [19:11]
amdprophetgotta love disappearing records... going to have to talk to my coworkers :P
thanks for the help guys
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up_the_ironsnp!
amdprophet: looks like you're gonna kill a sys admin today too!
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ToastyXoh I see what happened
you have recursion on
so ns1/ns2 was there due to recursion getting the record from the gtld servers
then when I did dig -t NS ns1.aelatis.com, the cache disappeared
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amdprophetahhhh [19:13]
ToastyXso really the records should be added so that won't happen [19:14]
amdprophetjust added them
should be all good now
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ToastyXnow it resolves [19:14]
amdprophetI wonder if the border would be upset with me shipping everyone some Canadian beer
lol
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up_the_ironsup_the_irons imagines a new RFC "On sending beer over the Internet"
imagine _that_ protocol
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amdprophetLOL [19:17]
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DaCaamdprophet: I'll accept a 'fin du monde' by dcc :) [19:45]
amdprophetlol [19:46]
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up_the_ironsdxtr: your vps is coming up shortly [23:30]
...and there ya go, welcome packet should be in your inbox [23:38]
amdprophetmmm got my supermicro 1U rackmount atom 330 box today, can't wait to replace my old sun ultra5 [23:47]

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