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| up_the_irons | what's everyone doin' this saturday night | [00:50] |
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| schmir | up_the_irons: trying to install arch from cd. it doesn't find the root device.
any tips? ahh.now is see your mail... | [03:52] |
| up_the_irons: I need a dns server ip. | [03:58] | |
| found it in the knowledge base... | [04:05] | |
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| up_the_irons: I have it running now.
up_the_irons: do you want to create a copy? | [07:10] | |
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| sroute | up_the_irons: hmmnn, my vm rebooted.
Nov 29 15:45:55 pear savecore: reboot after panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc Nov 29 15:45:55 pear savecore: writing core to vmcore.0 Nov 29 15:45:55 pear kernel: mode = 0177777, inum = 3514472, fs = /usr Nov 29 15:45:55 pear kernel: panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc Nov 29 15:45:55 pear kernel: cpuid = 1 Nov 29 15:45:55 pear kernel: Uptime: 39d1h35m16s I was running a Django test suite on it, moderate load on postgresql. FYI Garry. | [15:47] |
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| up_the_irons | sroute: interesting. I've seen that ffs_valloc problem in i386 FreeBSD kernels under a lot of disk I/O. I actually had wondered how you got around it ;) I guess you are not immune either
this is why my default installs are amd64 at least, i haven't seen that problem with the amd64 kernels schmir: thanks for the offer to copy; i actually want to do the install myself so I learn more about Arch. Can you just tell me how you got it to recognize /dev/vda as a valid device within their installer menu? I couldn't get anything to show up. I guess I could just use fdisk, mkfs, and skip that part | [16:08] |
| schmir | up_the_irons: no. I did a install using only pacman
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_From_Existing_Linux | [16:17] |
| up_the_irons | schmir: ah ok, cool
schmir: so you just used the shell the install disk dropped you into and did the whole install starting from there? | [16:18] |
| schmir | up_the_irons: yes. I'v partioned /dev/vda, mke2fs, and mounted it on /r | [16:20] |
| up_the_irons | schmir: cool | [16:20] |
| schmir | mkdir -p /r//var/lib/pacman
pacman -Sy base -r /r I did use the install system to configure the network... before. added MODULES="virtio_net virtio_console virtio_balloon virtio_blk virtio_pci" into /r/etc/mkinitcpio.conf and installed grub (which somehow involves copying /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* to /boot/grub for stage1,...) then I installed the kernel again in order to generate new initrd images (I don't know the command to do that directly though) up_the_irons: you don't need pacman.static as you're booting from the livecd | [16:20] |
| sroute | up_the_irons: ok, that is interesting ... I must have missed the memo ;) | [16:28] |
| up_the_irons | schmir: thanks for all the great info | [16:28] |
| sroute | I suppose I'll have to do a rebuilt one of these days and move to amd64 | [16:29] |
| up_the_irons | sroute: i figured that you weren't affected, since you had make your own kernel and such, perhaps something changed. It wasn't really a big pain point, so I never mentioned it. Never seen it w/ amd64 and no one asks for i386 ;) | [16:29] |
| sroute | I can't even recally why I'm on i386 to be honest
probably asked for it at the time for reason of comparison with some older hardware I have; I just can't remember and the reason isn't in my notes. | [16:29] |
| schmir | up_the_irons: no problem.
up_the_irons: my last hurdle was that I forgot to modify /etc/fstab. | [16:31] |
| up_the_irons | sroute: if you ever want to change, just let me know. right now your proc is i686, but i can change it to x86_64 and your VM should boot normally still. Then you can use either 32-bit or 64-bit kernels at your leisure
schmir: ah | [16:34] |
| schmir | should be pretty easy for you now...
base config is in /etc/rc.conf | [16:34] |
| sroute | up_the_irons: thanks - why don't you switch it then at your leisure - I've taken down anything of note for the time being already, and I'll do some backing up and get ready for a rebuild. | [16:35] |
| schmir | and you'll probably want to run rankmirrors when building an official image | [16:35] |
| up_the_irons | schmir: ah, nice
sroute: i can do it now if you like, just need to reboot it | [16:36] |
| sroute | great, go for it. | [16:37] |
| up_the_irons | sroute: doin' it
sroute: done | [16:39] |
| sroute | Thanks very much. If only everything was that easy!
(particularly renovating kitchens) | [16:41] |
| up_the_irons | srsly | [16:42] |
| sroute | should the line in dmesg read differently: CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (2648.37-MHz 686-class CPU) | [16:44] |
| up_the_irons | not sure
from one of my VMs: CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (5431.79-MHz K8-class CPU) LOL, that's a fast proc ;) I think it is reporting / detecting wrong another VM: CPU: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.9.1 (4587.73-MHz K8-class CPU) | [16:50] |
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| jeev | heh
up_the_irons, you test the unixbench-wht comparison on 7.2 and 8.0 on your server? | [18:38] |
| blovett | up_the_irons, might I suggest you add the X install sets to your openbsd image? no real reason I can think of not to, and some packages/ports depend on X. | [18:52] |
| mike-burns | X on a server? Are you using it as a X server? | [18:53] |
| blovett | packages like java require it..
not that it's hard to install them. it's just a few tarballs. just a thought. | [18:54] |
| mike-burns | I don't know OpenBSD well enough to suggest how you get around that requirement, but that does seem suspicious since FreeBSD's Java doesn't require it. | [18:56] |
| blovett | I haven't touched FreeBSD since I think it was 4.2. Anyway, packages are the 'supported' method for 3rd party software install and I figure why build something if I don't have to.
I was quite surprised to see IPv6 supported on these VPSs. Good to see. | [19:05] |
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| vxp | expat
is distributed as part of the `xbase' set hence [ ... ] at least since 4.3 | [19:56] |
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| ballen | ewww install X on a server
seems there would be lib packages that would satisfy java | [21:08] |
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| DaCa | the problem is (for for example java) they can't distribute packages (binaries of ports) because of license reasons, so you have to build them from ports
xbase and xetc is enough, you don't need the other x* sets then again, I don't think it should be in the default image, those who need it can just add it by untarring the sets manually | [21:40] |
| ballen | yep | [21:44] |
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| jeev | i need to be efficient damnit | [22:12] |
| sroute | An efficient damnit ? | [22:12] |
| jeev | i'm not efficient, i'm not doing everything i need to be doing | [22:14] |
| sroute | When I'm not being efficient usually it is because I'm doing things I ought not to be doing (at that time)
A common occurence ;-( | [22:23] |
| jeev | i do that all day man | [22:23] |
| sroute | Actually I meant ;-) because you have to find ways to allow for distractions without taking over | [22:23] |
| jeev | i find myself reading dslreports most of the work day
not most.. but you know looking around thew eb | [22:24] |
| ballen | need more interesting work then
or more todo :-) | [22:25] |
| jeev | got a lot to do, no motivation | [22:26] |
| ballen | then more interesting work | [22:26] |
| jeev | if you believed the project you're working on will one day make LOTS..... LOTS
lets just assume, a billion dollars that's not interesting ? | [22:27] |
| sroute | If you have a legitimate shot at making a major impact, that ought to be plenty of motivation.
impact/dollars | [22:32] |
| jeev | yea i've got issues.
i cant believe i still lack motivation work on that project hasn't *officially* begun anyway | [22:33] |
| ballen | yea | [22:33] |
| sroute | But one has to actually believe in the potential; have a realistic view on the potential; and believe they have an appropriate plan to get there. | [22:33] |
| jeev | the business i should be completing now is one that'll bring in just a few million /year
and it's proven i have one that is finishing this weak, another 3 that i need to START.. one of those will probably take a year heh | [22:33] |
| sroute | Well then get on with it! Not chump change (assuming your costs aren't "a few million /year less 100$" | [22:34] |
| jeev | oh, cost is nothing heh | [22:35] |
| sroute | excellent | [22:35] |
| jeev | i just hope the economy doesn't hurt it
it was tested a few years back, got good return.. satisfied customers | [22:35] |
| sroute | Economy here seems ... Ok. | [22:35] |
| jeev | it's not fully a necessity but could be..
it really depends on economy i dont care if it starts slow as long as it brings in at least 10 or 20k a month in the beginning competition does 3M but does't have 5% of what i have and i'm not sure if they've fluffed those numbers | [22:35] |
| ballen | why is it so damn difficult to get a good deal on a microwave online | [22:37] |
| jeev | lol | [22:37] |
| ballen | appliances need to be marketed like tech items
bestbuy kind of does | [22:38] |
| jeev | bestbuy sucks | [22:38] |
| ballen | but their prices are always high anyways so discounts there are useless
anyone have a free shipping coupon to Sears.com? or know where to look for one | [22:38] |
| jeev | check freeshipping.org | [22:42] |
| so a side thing, i need to get off my ass and do this data entry system
and i' still too lazy | [22:55] | |
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| up_the_irons | blovett: thanks for the suggestion, but I prefer to keep the default installs as minimal as possible. Customer can add more if necessary, but most people prefer just the base + SSH | [23:20] |
| sroute | jeev: I have to admit working on complex forms is probably my least favorite task | [23:22] |
| ballen | 1.6 or 2.0 cu ft microwave.... now this is the question | [23:23] |
| up_the_irons | ballen: depends on how much microwaved food you eat
i would think... | [23:25] |
| ballen | meh not really that much
use the toaster oven the most | [23:26] |
| up_the_irons | i c | [23:26] |
| ballen | mostly use microwave for heating up drinks, reheat left overs, etc | [23:26] |
| up_the_irons | i re-heat coffee | [23:27] |
| ballen | ew
reheated coffee is gross | [23:27] |
| up_the_irons | i don't mean like from 24 hours ago cold... i drink slow, so sometimes when i have only 25% left, I need a little bit of a re-heat | [23:29] |
| ballen | still gross | [23:29] |
| vxp | death
to coffee | [23:30] |
| ballen | had a raspberry mocha at like 7.. wide awake | [23:30] |
| vxp | n e tea | [23:30] |
| ballen | tea is good too | [23:31] |
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