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| obsidieth | this is fast enough to actually irc from without a bouncer, very good latency to au | [00:24] | |
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| up_the_irons | obsidieth: haha, awesome | [03:49] | |
| obsidieth | yeah im really suprised, no shell i have ever had has let me do that | [03:49] | |
| up_the_irons | RAD
obsidieth: show me your v4 reverse DNS setup (pastie) when you get a chance, I'll write a Knowledge Base article on how to set up sub-class C delegations Qsource: you PM'd? | [03:50] | |
| obsidieth | ok, will do
theres a possibility that my setup is a super bad example but ill shw you what ive got | [03:59] | |
| up_the_irons | obsidieth: I'll clean it up ;) | [04:00] | |
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| up_the_irons | welcome ConquerorX | [04:08] | |
| ConquerorX | :
:) | [04:09] | |
| up_the_irons | :) | [04:10] | |
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| up_the_irons | cablehead: do you know Joel in NetOps at Slide? | [04:53] | |
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| mhoran | up_the_irons: RFC 2317? http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2317.txt ? | [06:32] | |
| up_the_irons | mhoran: yeah, for sub-class C reverse DNS delegations | [06:33] | |
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| *** | ballen|away is now known as ballen | [07:01] | |
| up_the_irons | we have 15 people in the room, it's growin!
<sniff> i remember when u were little ;) | [07:07] | |
| ballen | heh | [07:07] | |
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| and back to normal wasn't the rc script it nginx was listening just on ipv6
i swear it was working before | [07:23] | ||
| up_the_irons | ballen: i thought nginx didn't support ipv6? guess it's new | [07:26] | |
| ballen | yea supports it fine
listen [::]:80 you may have to build it with the option though i know in freebsd ports it will give you the option | [07:26] | |
| up_the_irons | ballen: ah cool | [07:30] | |
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| obsidieth | obsidieth wipes brow
kernel compiling makes me nervous | [08:51] | |
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| *** | ballen|away is now known as ballen | [09:09] | |
| cablehead | up_the_irons: yeah I do
up_the_irons: wait, do you know Joel? | [09:19] | |
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| up_the_irons | cablehead: sweet; i don't know Joel, but I sent him a peering request. If he denies it, now I can have you slap him ;) | [11:33] | |
| cablehead | up_the_irons: haha
up_the_irons: he seems like a crazy smart guy | [11:33] | |
| up_the_irons | cablehead: cool | [11:34] | |
| cablehead | up_the_irons: if a mention a request from Garry Dolley, will he know what I'm talking about? | [11:35] | |
| up_the_irons | cablehead: yeah probably
| [11:36] | |
| cablehead | up_the_irons: i can see that | [11:38] | |
| up_the_irons | cablehead: cool, that's where i got his contact info | [11:38] | |
| cablehead | up_the_irons: will you gain much peering with slide? | [11:41] | |
| up_the_irons | cablehead: probably not, given ARP and Slide are both content networks mostly, but it helps build out the network some; The DigiSynd office gets bandwidth from me, so anyone in the office seeing Slide content could reach it directly at that point. a little gain | [11:44] | |
| cablehead | up_the_irons: pretty sure slide have peering with facebook, but ARP wouldn't get that eh?, by peering with slide .. my network knowledge is feeble | [11:46] | |
| up_the_irons | cablehead: right, I wouldn't get that. peering usually means you get routes only of the peer network, not anyone else's. I already have peering with Facebook though, so that's covered :) | [11:49] | |
| cablehead | up_the_irons: oh nice :) | [11:50] | |
| up_the_irons | cablehead: yeah, FB is pretty easy going about it | [11:50] | |
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| up_the_irons | I wonder who marty__ was | [17:45] | |
| ballen | i unno | [17:49] | |
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| forcefollow | hello | [19:27] | |
| ballen | hello | [19:27] | |
| forcefollow | how long does it generally take to get a vps setup? | [19:28] | |
| ballen | umm depends when up_the_irons is around
day max | [19:28] | |
| forcefollow | one other question, i was planning on getting an openbsd one to toy around with, if i screw it up and need it reloaded is that going to be an issue? | [19:29] | |
| ballen | shouldn't be, again not my company. I'm just a customer | [19:30] | |
| forcefollow | forcefollow nods
you like the service? | [19:30] | |
| ballen | Garry (up_the_irons) can simply recreate it
yea like it quite a bit | [19:30] | |
| forcefollow | ive been using slicehost but im wanting to move away from linux | [19:31] | |
| ballen | yep I made the same move
this is def a smaller company | [19:31] | |
| forcefollow | thats cool, i actually like that | [19:32] | |
| ballen | and Garry is the only guy running the place.
but he seems quite smart and works long after hours to get things done if needed | [19:32] | |
| forcefollow | i know how that is, im a small business owner also | [19:32] | |
| ballen | performance is good, I had a 256 slice with Arch on it
at Slicehost I havea 768 vps FreeBSD here quite a bit faster | [19:33] | |
| forcefollow | i can barely run what i need with 512 | [19:33] | |
| ballen | yea
we were hitting 256 pretty hrad hard* | [19:33] | |
| forcefollow | i bet that was swapping like crazy | [19:34] | |
| ballen | yea a little
we slimmed everything down a lot | [19:34] | |
| forcefollow | my dev server only had 256 for awhile and it was swapping a lot | [19:34] | |
| ballen | have you used OpenBSD or FreeBSD much? | [19:35] | |
| forcefollow | i used to use freebsd quite a bit back around 4.x
and i just started playing with openbsd last weekend | [19:36] | |
| ballen | ah, I prefer Free over Open
unless you're making a router | [19:37] | |
| forcefollow | i cant decide which i want | [19:37] | |
| ballen | i'd say for dev work Free is nicer | [19:37] | |
| forcefollow | yeah you're probably right
i wonder if he is planning on offering openbsd 4.5 soon | [19:38] | |
| ballen | if you'd like send an email over to garry at gdolley at arpnetworks.com
he's running QEMU based VM's so if you can upgrade OpenBSD inside the VM it should work fine assuming theres not issues with 4.5 on QEMU | [19:39] | |
| forcefollow | looks like you can | [19:41] | |
| ballen | cool, alright I'm taking off, Garry hangs out around this room a lot
she either hand out, or email him so* hang* | [19:43] | |
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| forcefollow | i think im just going to go ahead and sign up
thanks ballen|away | [19:43] | |
| ballen|away | no prob | [19:44] | |
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| up_the_irons | up_the_irons is in da house
ballen: thanks for helping forcefollow in my absense :) | [21:20] | |
| ballen | no prob | [21:20] | |
| up_the_irons | forcefollow: OpenBSD 4.5 isn't on the list b/c when I tried installing it I got a kernel panic
forcefollow: A new KVM/QEMU was installed yesterday, so maybe I should try again... either way, it'd require some testing; I don't like to sell something that "worked once when I tried it", preferring some real abuse ;) | [21:21] | |
| ballen | up_the_irons: have you tried FreeBSD 8 Beta 3 | [21:22] | |
| up_the_irons | ballen: not yet | [21:22] | |
| ballen | be interesting if it has any issues | [21:22] | |
| up_the_irons | forcefollow: I have a production OpenBSD 4.4 amd64 VM running and it has been rock solid; so I know 4.4 works quite well | [21:22] | |
| ballen | I've been running beta 2 on a few machines and its been quite stable | [21:23] | |
| up_the_irons | been running for several months now
ballen: ah cool | [21:23] | |
| ballen | in vmware not qemu though | [21:23] | |
| up_the_irons | yeah
the wife beckons, I'll bbl | [21:23] | |
| ballen | kk | [21:23] | |
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| forcefollow | forcefollow: cool
err up_the_irons: cool | [21:48] | |
| ballen | up_the_irons: http://sysadminschronicles.com/past/2009/8/26/freebsd_ipv6_over_openvpn | [21:48] | |
| forcefollow | ill just stick with that one then, btw i placed an order under my gf's name (the card is in her name) | [21:48] | |
| ballen | getting the GF to pay for the VPS nice ;-) | [21:49] | |
| forcefollow | lol its my money in her bank account | [21:49] | |
| ballen | hmm
that's likely worse but I suppose I do that same, joint account though | [21:49] | |
| forcefollow | we've been together for 5 years, i trust her | [21:50] | |
| ballen | thats good | [21:51] | |
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| up_the_irons | ballen|away: nice writeup! | [23:10] | |
| forcefollow | up_the_irons: did you get my order?
no rush, just asking | [23:15] | |
| up_the_irons | forcefollow: yup!
It's In There(tm) | [23:15] | |
| forcefollow | cool | [23:15] | |
| up_the_irons | :) | [23:15] | |
| forcefollow | so you do all this by yourself? | [23:15] | |
| up_the_irons | forcefollow: how'd you find out about my VPS services BTW? | [23:16] | |
| forcefollow | google openbsd vps | [23:16] | |
| up_the_irons | forcefollow: yup, by myself pretty much
ah.. that WHT thread i bet | [23:16] | |
| forcefollow | yup
you should do some SEO on your site, cause there arent many places that offer openbsd vps i bet you could get your page rank quite a bit *up | [23:16] | |
| up_the_irons | forcefollow: yeah, I don't know how to start on that kinda stuff. I've just started some stuff with freebsdvps.com (one of my domains), and in a week I got it on the first page google results for "freebsd vps" (albeit on the bottom)
forcefollow: BTW, for more about the company and me, I've explained it here: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2009-08-12,Wed&sel=50#l46 i'm really glad I decided to log this room... ;) | [23:18] | |
| forcefollow | having an irc channel was one of the reasons i decided to try it out | [23:19] | |
| up_the_irons | awesome, I was hoping it'd have that effect as well ;)
but ya know, regarding OpenBSD, I don't know how much of a market there is for it. I love it for my routers, but I don't get many requests for it as a VM. FreeBSD trumps there of course. And Linux beats FreeBSD in market, but since I don't push my Linux VMs much, I get more FreeBSD orders | [23:20] | |
| forcefollow | i might get you to change me over to freebsd, i have a lot more experience with it but lately ive been trying some new stuff
im really bored with what i know right now (php/linux/etc etc) | [23:22] | |
| up_the_irons | haha
yeah | [23:23] | |
| forcefollow | but if all goes well i might move my work stuff over also
we currently have 3 servers with slicehost | [23:25] | |
| up_the_irons | that'd be great :)
forcefollow: what distro do you use at slicehost? | [23:25] | |
| forcefollow | fedora | [23:27] | |
| up_the_irons | ugh, that's one I don't do (I never had a Red Hat based distro not get hacked _eventually_) | [23:27] | |
| forcefollow | yeah thats why i was looking into *bsd, security
there was a remote bind exploit about a month ago and it scared me | [23:28] | |
| up_the_irons | i've been upgrading my kernels like mad b/c of recent Linux exploits | [23:29] | |
| forcefollow | lame isnt it? | [23:29] | |
| up_the_irons | yeah
not that FreeBSD is all that much better. Stock 7.1 had a local priv escalation to root bug | [23:29] | |
| forcefollow | eek | [23:30] | |
| up_the_irons | everything has bugs
;) | [23:30] | |
| forcefollow | i havent used freebsd since about 4.x
indeed, i had to fix a few today in my own code | [23:30] | |
| up_the_irons | My first sys admin job was working with FreeBSD 1.x boxes ;)
I remember when I upgraded them to 2 | [23:32] | |
| forcefollow | wow
old school =) | [23:34] | |
| up_the_irons | haha yeah | [23:34] | |
| forcefollow | im thinking about trying out lighttpd too | [23:35] | |
| up_the_irons | ah, i've used that some in the past
works pretty good, pretty fast | [23:38] | |
| forcefollow | im also getting interested in python and maybe scala (it looks neat) | [23:50] | |
| up_the_irons | i know a lot of python guys | [23:51] | |
| forcefollow | i spent a couple weeks playing with it and when i had to go back to php i missed it | [23:51] | |
| up_the_irons | the most I ever did with Python was getting the [FBI] bot (irclogger) to talk SSL
yeah, php is my last choice of a language i used to do it a lot, but no longer, there are way better ways to make web apps these days | [23:52] | |
| forcefollow | what do you preferr now? | [23:52] | |
| up_the_irons | Rails and Sinatra | [23:53] | |
| forcefollow | ahh im a big zend framework fan | [23:54] | |
| up_the_irons | ah
bigs: did u guys actually compile a new kernel on your VM? | [23:54] | |
| forcefollow | django is sexy for doing quick CRUD | [23:56] | |
| up_the_irons | never worked with django | [23:57] | |
| obsidieth | :p
yeah limited length nicks. stubborn ol efnet | [23:59] | |
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