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SirSkidmoremorning [04:58]
dbtidgreetings
an early start for you, eh?
[05:00]
SirSkidmoreIt's 8am here
just got to work
[05:00]
dbtidit's 8am here to
*too
i'm going to go and get ready for work
bbl
[05:01]
SirSkidmoredbtid: I work from 8am to 5pm [05:01]
there was a line for coffee just now, I was second in line, and there were probably about 6 people
the guy getting coffee in front of me completely drained it, turned around, saw everyone waiting, shrugged, and left
>.>
[05:10]
joreyhi. [05:14]
SirSkidmorehey jorey [05:15]
joreySirSkidmore: pretty sure killing him in this case would have been considered self defense [05:15]
SirSkidmoreit takes all of 30 seconds to start a new pot [05:17]
joreyyeah, but still. [05:17]
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SirSkidmoreCosmiCruz: o/
jorey: I know, I was saying that as "it takes 30 seconds, why would he not start it?"
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joreyah, heh [05:21]
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kusuriyaSirSkidmore: wait wait wait you saw some one violate office coffee ettiquite and didnt immidiately disembowl him? [05:36]
SirSkidmorekusuriya: it happens all the time too
constantly
there's never any coffee
[05:37]
kusuriyakusuriya gets out his vietnam vintage marine kabar and hands it to SirSkidmore
you know what to do
stem to stern
[05:37]
SirSkidmoredang. I meant to bring the Seasoned Schemer with me to work today [05:41]
kusuriyayou dont need to scheme
just walk up and say "I saw you didnt bother to start another pot of coffee"
and when they srug it off you plunge the knife into their abdomen just below their sternum and drag down toward their belt
problem solved!
[05:41]
SirSkidmoreyeah... okay :D [05:42]
kusuriyapro tip: dont actually do that
nor gut punch them
[05:43]
SirSkidmorekusuriya: gee, thanks [05:43]
joreyit's totally okay to carry a gun under a jacket and after they shrug it off pull the jacket back revealing the gun, right?
and then just say "i'd really appreciate it if you started a new pot the next time you empty one."
[05:45]
kusuriyano you cant reveal it
you have to draw and shoot
the law gets iffy if you just start flashing a piece around
[05:46]
joreyheh [05:46]
kusuriyaso just fire a warning shot [05:46]
SirSkidmorebah, my allergies are just killing me [05:46]
kusuriyamaybe shoot apart his cup of coffee [05:46]
joreySirSkidmore: or just do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK332QsfYRc [05:47]
BryceBotYouTube Film: "Falling Down - Fast Food debacle HD" by VAR1UM (4m 29s), 151,695 views, 556 likes and 12 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-03-13T20:51:36.000Z. [05:47]
kusuriyayou know I almost want to take up black smithing and make links sword and shield [05:48]
joreywhich?
:p
but yes, that'd be awesome. go for it.
[05:49]
kusuriyathe doku one
from the N64
its the most iconic for some reason
[05:49]
SirSkidmorekusuriya: there's a legitimate blacksmith who lives just outside of my town
he's kind of odd
[05:50]
kusuriyawhen I get a house im going to put a workshop out in the back yard
and part of it I think will have a small forge
[05:50]
joreyi talked to like 3 different blacksmiths when i was a kid and watched them do stuff. fascinated me back then. [05:50]
mianosmhttp://yager.io/programming/go.html [05:51]
kusuriyait still facinates me some
Ill also have a welder and some other metal smithing tools
make my own cases and shit
[05:51]
joreyi'm really interested in straight razors
(i actually own 2)
[05:51]
mianosmGuy likes Go, feels that it is not bad; but that it is also not good. [05:51]
joreybut i'd love to watch someone manufacture them [05:51]
kusuriyajorey: ive shaved with them off and on since 2006 [05:51]
joreysame [05:52]
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joreyone of them is a wade and butcher from the 19th century
the other one a modern dovo
[05:52]
kusuriyaright now im using a saftey razor because my wifey cant seem to grasp the concept that you cant try to slip behind me when I use one [05:52]
joreyi'm not shaving at all atm :p [05:52]
SirSkidmoreI don't ever clean shave, so have no use for a straight razor haha [05:52]
kusuriyai dont shave often
and I always keep my goatee though
[05:52]
SirSkidmorephone upgrade next week... so ready to get rid of the S3 [05:54]
joreyi don't shave right now, but i usually only trim my beard down to stubble. but i need to have the razors taken care off anyways (they got slightly damaged when moving like 2-3 years ago) and i may pick it up again once i did that [05:56]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore should start looking into phones
I was thinking the Lg G3
[05:56]
joreymianosm: so he's like "well, it sucks, but it sucks less than anything else"? [05:56]
kusuriyathats not too bad the N5 is also a good choice
SirSkidmore: look at the OPPO N1 also
http://en.oppo.com/products/n1/
http://oneplus.net/ is also cool but they are in the middle of a false scarcity campeign were you have to promote them to get an invite to spend the cash on their phone
[05:56]
jrickhey guys go isn't a good language http://yager.io/programming/go.html [06:00]
joreyjrick: that was linked exactly 10 minutes ago alrteady. [06:01]
jrickhaha
making the rounds
[06:01]
joreys/(?<=r)t// [06:01]
BryceBot<jorey> jrick: that was linked exactly 10 minutes ago already. [06:01]
SirSkidmorekusuriya: the where to buy page doesn't show any locations [06:01]
kusuriyaSirSkidmore: its mostly buy online from them for the oppo
the One Plus One you need to get an invite or wait until the stop this rediculas marketing campeign that requires an invite
[06:02]
SirSkidmoreit's pretty neat
does it work on Verizon, I wonder?
probably not
[06:03]
kusuriyaI dont think they have a CDMA version yet
just GSM
[06:03]
SirSkidmoreyeah [06:03]
kusuriyathe OPPO might id have to find the store to buy it again [06:03]
SirSkidmoreI'm stuck on Verizon because my family pays for half of my phone bill. [06:04]
kusuriyahm oppo broke their page [06:04]
SirSkidmoreis there something newer and better than the G3 coming out soon that I should wait for? [06:05]
kusuriyaid casually shop right now
the Google android L stuff is on the near horizon
maybe holiday time
[06:06]
SirSkidmoreI just don't want to buy the G3 and then have something better come out within a month or two [06:07]
kusuriyayeah [06:07]
SirSkidmorebut at the same time I don't know if the my S3 will last [06:07]
kusuriyanow is about the time you should see the hype for the new stuff comming out
so start your research now youll get a good idea if you should wait or not
[06:07]
SirSkidmorethe screen is shattered at the top, the camera is sometimes iffy, the power button is broken [06:08]
dbtidgreetings again [06:09]
SirSkidmoreO'Reilly just emailed me to let me know that MAstering RegEx is on sale for 50% off
it's like they know I'm bad or something
[06:11]
ampharoshttp://i.4cdn.org/vg/1404100049559.jpg [06:13]
zod000_lol ampharos [06:14]
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SirSkidmorezod000: o/ [06:15]
zod000i wish real news stories were written like that
o
[06:15]
dbtidzod000: o/ [06:15]
zod000o
ampharos: the best line of that "article" was "Antiochus III made the classic strategic mistake of not doing a single intelligent thing"
i think I will have to use a version of that for people in meetings
[06:15]
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qbithalla [06:24]
joreyyo [06:25]
snksnk returns from vacation [06:25]
SirSkidmorehey qbit
and snk
[06:25]
snkhalla [06:25]
qbitsnk: nice! go anywhere fun?
hi SirSkidmore :D
[06:26]
snkwent to SC, south of myrtle beach
hung out on the bach
*beach
ate some alligator meat
[06:26]
CosmiCruzqbit!!!! <3 [06:26]
zod000welcome back snk [06:26]
CosmiCruzzod000!!! <3 [06:26]
zod000snk: gator meat is good [06:26]
CosmiCruzsnk!!! <3
mr SirSkidmore!!! o/
[06:26]
qbitCosmiCruz: sup mang [06:27]
SirSkidmoreqbit: how are you? [06:27]
qbitsnk: nice [06:27]
SirSkidmorehey CosmiCruz! [06:27]
qbiti dislike alligator meat [06:27]
mcchunkieheuheuhuheuheuhe [06:27]
zod000my local place on the beach used to serve gator burgers (was actually a gator 'steak' on bread)
was excellent
[06:27]
qbitSirSkidmore: good! yourself? [06:27]
snkzod000: yes it is. was my first time... I'd say that it was kind of a cross between scallops and chicken [06:27]
SirSkidmorepretty okay!
just working this week for four days!
[06:27]
zod000snk: hmm interesting description, not too far off i guess [06:27]
SirSkidmoreHave a concert a week from Saturday that I'm super pumped for [06:28]
qbitohyeah! 4 day week! o/ [06:29]
CosmiCruzhow's everybody doing? [06:29]
qbitsnk: for me it was like pond mixed with meat texture [06:29]
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SirSkidmoreCosmiCruz: pretty good!
tired
[06:32]
zod000hey ergodoxers, check this out http://imgur.com/a/sGIwG [06:32]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore is not an erodoxer, clicks link anyway :O
that's pretty neat
[06:33]
zod000if it wasn't come shady geekhack.com paypal deal, I might be interested
i was hoping it was from an actual shop online
[06:34]
kusuriyahmm the one+ones invite system is starting to backfire [06:34]
dvl_I never checked, does the server have IMAP? [06:34]
kusuriyaand the company is starting to get worried, their mods are deleting threads complaining about the invite system :D [06:34]
zod000kusuriya: whcih of course will make it worse
doing it invite only is dumb unless you are google or apple and can pull off hype right
[06:34]
CosmiCruzkusuriya: TO THE CLOUD!!! [06:37]
BryceBotTO THE CLOUD!!! [06:37]
CosmiCruzo/ [06:37]
kusuriyayeah their issue is they just dont have the supply and have been very slow on getting it out
in the end people are just going after the OPPO find 7 which has a better camera and screen
[06:37]
zod000oppo has been on a roll lately trying to get into the high end
they just released a $1K set of headphones
they are very nice, but wouldn't be my first choice at that price
called the Oppo pm-1 if you want to ogle
[06:41]
kusuriyaive been ogleing [06:42]
zod000pm == planar magnetic [06:42]
kusuriyabut ive also been eyeballing the new consumer cans MTX audio put out [06:43]
zod000at that price, I think I'd get audeze or hifiman models, but they are nice looking [06:43]
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zod000kusuriya: aren't they beats looking? [06:44]
kusuriyaone set of them [06:44]
qbitzod000: that's awesome
need a case like that
also wonder what casecase the dox is in
[06:44]
kusuriyahttp://www.mtx.com/headphones?specs=299 [06:45]
qbitguess it's just the clear one [06:45]
kusuriyaI have a beta set of them that look entirely different
but I cant really post pics because it would proably get my buddy fired
[06:45]
mianosmSirSkidmore: is there a link? [06:45]
SirSkidmoremianosm: to what? [06:45]
mianosmfound it: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596528126.do?code=DEAL [06:46]
kusuriyabut MTX audio also has the license for margaritaville [06:46]
SirSkidmoreohhh
haha
[06:46]
kusuriyahttp://www.mtx.com/margaritaville-audio-mix1-lime-on-ear-headphones-lime-green [06:46]
SirSkidmoremianosm: I can't believe the books they have on that list are thier bestsellers
they seem kind of random
[06:46]
mianosmits weird, the "You can also save 50% on these bonus bestsellers:
links to their normally priced books...
[06:47]
SirSkidmoremianosm: add to cart
it applies the deal automatically
[06:47]
kusuriya^ [06:47]
mianosmah
discount code: DEAL
[06:47]
kusuriyathen some times you can pile cupons on top of that [06:47]
mianosmits a mobi
:(
[06:48]
kusuriyaif you go into your user panel they also have PDF
and EPUB
usually
[06:48]
snkqbit: did you see the potato keycap on massdrop? [06:48]
kusuriya:D [06:49]
mianosmhttps://www.massdrop.com/buy/brick-keycap [06:49]
qbitsnk: yeah
made me lol
[06:49]
SirSkidmoremianosm: they have PDFs for all of them
I wish you could get a discount on the eBook + print too, rather than just the ebook
for as much as I love eBooks, I love print books way more
because book shelves are cool
[06:50]
mianosmI've started donating all of my print books to work/local library. [06:52]
SirSkidmoremianosm: I just overall prefer print books
minus the fact that you can't ctrl-F them
[06:52]
kusuriyaman you know what I wish google play or some one would do right is have a discovery station based on the artists I have liked in in the past through their service
I want to discover new music not keep listening to the same stuff
[06:52]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore just went to the coffee pot, killed it, and then STARTED A NEW ONE [06:54]
CosmiCruzSirSkidmore: o/ [06:55]
SirSkidmoreo [06:55]
kusuriyakusuriya pats SirSkidmore on the back and starts a commotion of congratulations [06:55]
zod000kusuriya: beats-a-likes with jimmy buffet branding are basically the audio antichrist [06:55]
kusuriyazod000: they are better than beats but yeah id agree [06:55]
zod000kusuriya: there are some really good cans on massdrop right now in that price range [06:56]
SirSkidmorewow the old guy a few cubicles over has dropped like 5 f-bombs in 10 seconds [06:56]
zod000both the dt-770 80ohm and the akg q701 [06:56]
kusuriyalike my buddy told me when I said they were just beats clones he went "Yeah they are beats clones if like you care about bass and the rest of the audio spectrum"
I dont have the cash right now the big thing I like about thoose is they come with a cord that has a mic in it for a headset
[06:56]
zod000kusuriya: there are some truly decent headphones that cloned the beats looks, but i personally dislike the styling [06:56]
kusuriyabut thats not strictly needed [06:57]
zod000kusuriya: the yamaha and denon models are really good
people refer to those Denons as "beats my Dr Denon"
[06:57]
kusuriyayeah one of these pay days I may try to find some behind the head cans [06:57]
zod000s/my/by/ [06:57]
BryceBot<zod000> people refer to those Denons as "beats by Dr Denon" [06:57]
kusuriyaI cant stand the over the head cans they pinch the fuck out of my head [06:57]
SirSkidmorezod000: the "LOOK HOW COOL I LOOK" style? [06:57]
zod000kusuriya: hey headphones that don't do that then [06:57]
SirSkidmoregranted, I guess that's the point of most styles [06:58]
kusuriyazod000: yep thats my plan [06:58]
zod000kusuriya: the beyer dt-880 premiums are super gentle
also my favorite set of headphones
[06:58]
kusuriyazod000: dont know if youve ever seen my head but its huge :P [06:58]
zod000the new audiotechnica ath-ad900x line are supposedly much less "clampy"
kusuriya: i could put mine on a watermelon, they have a really nice metal band that is super flexible
[06:58]
kusuriyaare the open back? [06:59]
SirSkidmoreoh man. [06:59]
zod000semi-open [06:59]
SirSkidmoreYou guys will love this: http://www.jstorimer.com/blogs/workingwithcode/7766107-a-unix-shell-in-ruby [06:59]
kusuriyaSirSkidmore: I like my shell to be fast :P
zod000: if some one was talking at me and I stopped the music is it easy enough to hear people
[06:59]
zod000kusuriya: they are on massdrop right now actually https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-dt880-premium/?mode=guest_open
the dt-770 are closed, dt-880 are smi-open, and the dt-990 are full open
[07:00]
kusuriyabecause right now im just using them for voip and music at work
my lady gets super pissy if I game with headphones on because i cant hear her
and she had a man previous to me that used that and wow to ignore her
[07:01]
zod000kusuriya: mine did too, one of the reasons i went with semi-open [07:02]
snkkusuriya: just look at her right in the eyes and nod when she's talking to you [07:03]
zod000like my wife would yell for me from my office door and i couldn't hear her [07:03]
kusuriyaive actually showed her what to do if im wearing cans and she needs to talk to me [07:03]
snkthat'll get you a few months before she catches on [07:03]
kusuriyashe gets on gmail and hits me up on gtalk [07:03]
zod000snk++
snk: mine would catch on quick and get me to "agree" to things
[07:03]
snkhah [07:03]
kusuriyazod000++ [07:03]
SirSkidmorekusuriya: yeah, my parents actually in high school wouldn't let me wear a headset [07:04]
zod000"but you said i could go purse shopping" [07:04]
snk"zod000 would you like to have two more babies and three puppies?" [07:04]
SirSkidmorebecause it annoyed them so much that I wouldn't hear them if they called my name [07:04]
zod000snk: lol no way, besides, she is more done with babies than i am
and i am so done
[07:04]
kusuriyamy parents tried that SirSkidmore then they got tired of hearing metal, nerdcore, and electronica 24x3 for the weekends [07:04]
snkkyl: bro Go is not good did you know that http://yager.io/programming/go.html [07:05]
kusuriyathey also once tried to ground me from the computer [07:05]
zod000SirSkidmore: open headphones make it a nonissue unless you are blasting the volume [07:05]
kusuriyaand when it broke I looked them right in the eyes and said "youre punishing me remember you said I cant touch the computer
"
they reversed that PDQ
[07:05]
SirSkidmorezod000: I use Steel Series Siberia v2 at home
kusuriya: for my parents it was opera
lol
[07:05]
kusuriyaI learned how to get my way for some things [07:06]
SirSkidmoreor shit like Tuvan throat singing [07:06]
mcchunkiePHRASING, BOOM! [07:06]
zod000SirSkidmore: i have the v1, never wear them now than i have used nicer headphones, they are so uncomofrtable and muddy sounding [07:06]
kusuriyaand it was mostly showing my parents I was being curteous until they made me be discurtious [07:06]
SirSkidmorezod000: I have the USB ones, and the v2s are way more comfortable [07:06]
kusuriyabut yeah i may beable tog et away with cans
now that ive taught my lady to hit me up on gtalk if she needs me and im wearing cans
[07:06]
SirSkidmorezod000: the USB pair have a sound card and the difference is pretty drastic [07:07]
zod000SirSkidmore: i tried them at the store, didn't seem much different. if you ever get a chance, try out the audio-technica line. that is what the siberia are copying
the ath-AD series specifically
[07:07]
SirSkidmorezod000: I was thinking about buying a pair of ath-AD700s or whatever
but I don't know if I'll have the money
[07:08]
zod000the ath-ad700 or ath-ad900 are considered some of the best gaming headphones you can get
because they excel at positioning
[07:08]
kusuriyai dont know if I want to spend the cash on the over the head cans though [07:08]
SirSkidmorezod000: you recommended the ad700s to me [07:08]
kusuriyajust incase they are too tight or start digging into my scalp [07:08]
zod000oh, well, i agree with myself then
:D
[07:09]
SirSkidmorezod000: but that means I would also need to buy a mic
which is more money
[07:09]
kusuriyaSirSkidmore: does your computer include a mic? [07:09]
SirSkidmorekusuriya: no [07:09]
zod000zalman mic is like $8 and was better than the mic on my headsets prior [07:09]
kusuriyawell then suck [07:09]
SirSkidmorezod000: ah [07:09]
zod000still using it now
just clips on the cord
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zod000SirSkidmore: i was using the siberia v1 mic before, it also clipped on the cord. they added the built in one for the v2 [07:10]
kusuriyai may use that addon mic you suggested [07:10]
zod000the siberia mic was $20 and was inferior to the zalman in every way [07:10]
kusuriyaI just have to find the book mark [07:10]
zod000modmic? [07:10]
kusuriyayep [07:10]
zod000those are very nice
i should get one
but i am cheap
[07:10]
SirSkidmorezod000: still, I'll think about it [07:10]
mianosmkusuriya: https://play.google.com/music/listen#/ap/google-play-recommends - doesn't work for you? [07:11]
SirSkidmoresince I'll have roommates next year who probably don't enjoy Tuvan throat singing as much as I do [07:11]
zod000SirSkidmore: the zalman mic is so damned cheap i have considered buying extra just in case
i don't even see how they are profitable
[07:11]
kusuriyahttps://www.massdrop.com/vote/modmic-40
vote go go go
[07:11]
zod000ooh [07:11]
kusuriyamianosm: it gives me several stations
but i want one station that spans all my interests
so like I want it to play some deadmau5 then kick over and play some iron maiden
a true random
[07:11]
mianosmah [07:12]
kusuriyasort of like what old music radio used to be before it became all genere music [07:13]
mianosmwhenever I do "feeling Lucky" or instance mixes, I feel like it does that to me anyway...I'll want a Flux Pavillion mix...and then 12 songs into it I get the Ramones...wtf - contrast pieces I call them. [07:13]
kusuriyait doesnt it chooses a random song youve liked and does radio on that
so some times its a hit
some times its like it was this morning where it was all lullibies after I woke up and was driving in the dark
that is a terrible music selection for first thing in the AM
have I mentioned I like the new layout for duck duck go
zod000: how well do your bayers travel?
just like to work and back
[07:13]
zod000kusuriya: well they are solid and tough, but i work from home now so they don't actually travel. also, i have the 600ohm model, so they really don't shine without an amp [07:21]
kusuriyayeah im already debating an amp and the O2 from JDSLabs does travel well [07:22]
zod000they make a lowe ohm model, but i saw no reason to get it
the o2 was SPECIFICALLY made to power my headphones and the sennhesier hd600 well
[07:22]
kusuriyabut the more I add the more complex things get with LYNC [07:23]
zod000i got the magni+modi as i don't need it to travel, but the o2+odac is really nice [07:23]
kusuriyaI may have to find a DAC+AMP that has a headphone on it [07:23]
zod000kusuriya: it shouldn't, just shows up as a soundcard
auto installs, there is no driver needed for windows 7 or 8
[07:23]
kusuriyazod000: think about it this way, ill have a soundcard for output, a sound card that is built into the system, then a sound card for the mic
lync some times has issues with a single dac figuring out what device it should use
if I have 3...
[07:24]
zod000i roll that way now honestly
isn't an issue after you set it
[07:24]
kusuriyai have consistent issues with just 2 cards
i may do it anyway
but I just hate lync
[07:24]
zenmowerzod000: remind me i guess i need to get us cash before we go to pay for the actual conference
also hookers and booze
[07:26]
dbtidzenmower: mrs zod000 won't like the hookers part, i'd be willing to wager [07:27]
zenmowerthats why you pay in cash and don
't take receipts
[07:27]
kusuriyai guess if i found a case for the head phones [07:27]
dbtidyou know hookers who give receipts?? [07:27]
kusuriyalike a small pellican case [07:27]
zod000zenmower: haha ok i'll remind you
dbtid: the question is, where do they hide the printer
[07:28]
zenmowergoogle music's recommendations leave a lot to be desired [07:29]
zod000zenmower: i concur [07:29]
zenmoweryou would think they would be better at that [07:29]
zod000zenmower: see also, google play search [07:29]
zenmoweri still have 5 days on my free month
yeah
that shit sucks too
[07:29]
zod000why is it so weak, search is that fucking thing
kusuriya: i did ok with the 2007r2 communicator version, no idea how the new version may have messed it up
kusuriya: i just set my dac as the default output device in windows and the mic soundcard as the default input. that works for 99% of things
omg i just found an old cd i ripped at 96kbps
must have been a typo, why would i ever do that
[07:29]
qbithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwfLgXJpQd0 [07:33]
BryceBotYouTube Entertainment: "頂尖對決之穿褲子篇" by Now 夠了沒 (45s), 1,325,394 views, 14,039 likes and 609 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-28T11:13:43.000Z. [07:33]
qbitamazing [07:33]
kusuriyazod000: the new versions of lync are 094274089759801236901824235719801561290341398571297673891213841235132^inf times worse than OCS2007R2 [07:34]
zod000kusuriya: ug, my condolences [07:34]
kusuriyathe newest version if you even try to copy and paste HAHAHAHAHAH no
you get like 3/4th of the convo and none of it was the part you wanted
and all you did was highlight a single line
[07:34]
dbtidi'm bummed about my music [07:35]
zod000dbtid: why? [07:35]
zenmoweri am going to have to go back to the damned dentist [07:35]
dbtidi have a bunch of stuff i ripped to ogg [07:35]
zod000zenmower: :( [07:35]
dbtidiphone doesn't take ogg [07:35]
kusuriya:( [07:35]
dbtidso when i converted it to mp3, it SUCKED [07:35]
zod000dbtid: iphone--
dbtid: transcoding sucks
[07:35]
dbtidso i gotta go find all the CD's [07:35]
zenmoweri had an i phone for like [07:35]
dbtidyes, it does [07:35]
zenmower1 day
that shit had to go
[07:35]
dbtidwell, i don't use my iphone mostly for music [07:36]
zenmowertoo small
the finger print reader worked better
but thats about it
[07:36]
zod000i use my phone for music in the car all the time [07:36]
kusuriya^ [07:36]
zenmower^ [07:36]
dbtidoh, i do use it for music
but not most of the time
[07:37]
zod000well i use my pc more
even in the house i stream it to whatever device from my pc
[07:37]
zenmowerhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hstanaland.cartunes&hl=en [07:37]
zod000but in the car it is all phone [07:37]
dbtidi'm getting a new iphone today [07:38]
zod000zenmower: i have controls on my steering wheel
but thanskl
[07:38]
dbtidmy current one has this odd behavior with the digitizer now and then
very frustrating
[07:38]
zenmoweryou bastard
zenmower has an old ass car
2001 honda
ftw
[07:39]
kusuriyai have a 2011 ford ranger [07:39]
zod000zenmower: i have a 2013 elantra [07:39]
kusuriyathat just has a line cable into the head unit [07:39]
zod000i got it because of the awesome gad mileage
doesn't make a lot of sense now
heh
s/gad/gas/
[07:39]
BryceBot<zod000> i got it because of the awesome gas mileage [07:40]
zod000i mean, i like that i fill up once every 2-3 weeks [07:40]
zenmoweri drive all my cars into the ground [07:40]
dbtidzenmower: i have a '97 Camry POS
i'd love to have a 2001 Honda, comparitively
[07:40]
zenmowerhaha [07:40]
zod000zenmower: i have numerous things that were going. getting a new car avoided 1.5k-2k of repairs [07:41]
dbtidi fucking hate toyoats [07:41]
zod000it was tine
time
[07:41]
dbtidtoyotas [07:41]
zenmoweryeah [07:41]
zod000dbtid: my wife loved her camry [07:41]
zenmowermy wifes car is a toyota [07:41]
CosmiCruzzenmower!!! how have you been? [07:41]
bcallahs/s car // [07:41]
BryceBot<zenmower> my wifeis a toyota [07:41]
zod000it was nice until some old suv tried to kill me while i was stopped at a traffic light [07:41]
dbtidzod000: my parents love theirs [07:41]
zod000then it was more like half a camry [07:41]
dbtidbut i think they're put together like crap [07:41]
bcallahsup deviants [07:42]
zod000hola bcallah [07:42]
zenmowerhello [07:42]
dbtidtil bcallah is mexican [07:42]
zenmowererryboy [07:42]
zod000dbtid: their old models would drive forever [07:42]
zenmowerbody [07:42]
SirSkidmorebcallah: o/ [07:42]
zod000like their old light duty trucks
i always saw them with like 300k miles on them
[07:42]
zenmoweri wouldnt mind having one of their trucks
i have to find a truck
4x4
since i think imma buy the farm house
and will need it to get out the damn driveway
[07:42]
zod000dbtid: maybe i am mexican!
zod000 isn't
[07:43]
dbtidzod000: maybe you are! secretly! [07:43]
zod000i am on the inside
i love tacos
[07:43]
dbtiddid you go to that cuban plastic surgeon?
what kind of tacos do you like?
[07:43]
zenmowermmmm tacos [07:43]
dbtidno, scratch that
forget i asked
[07:43]
zenmoweri am pissed our mexican restaurant closed [07:43]
zod000dbtid: i see where you were going there [07:44]
dbtidzenmower: you lost your taco bell? [07:44]
zenmowernoi
no
[07:44]
dbtidzod000: no disrespect intended [07:44]
zenmowersome damn mexican place near work [07:44]
dbtidlost my brain for a second [07:44]
zenmowerwith good tacos
and burritos and shit
[07:44]
zod000zenmower: that's a bummer, good mexican restaurants are hard to come by [07:44]
dbtidwe have a chain up here called Vaqueros
i swear, you order your food and 5 minutes later it's on your table
hot and good
[07:44]
zenmowerall of them are like that [07:45]
dbtidwell, we have another one that's good, but not fast
we wait forever to get our food
[07:45]
zod000there is a "california style" mexican restaurant near me that is quite excellent. they also get draft beer from the local breweries [07:45]
dbtidwe don't eat there as much [07:45]
zod000they got popular though, so most of the time it is too busy to go there [07:45]
dbtidwtf is california style mexican? they're all undocumented? i thought they were, anyway. [07:45]
zod000good for them, bad for me
dbtid: haha
[07:45]
dbtid:-)
i was so glad Mexico lost to the Netherlands this weekend
[07:46]
yrmt_they didn't [07:46]
zod000dbtid: no, like they make the salsa different and are far from "authentic", but still quite good
surfboard decor
etc
[07:46]
dbtidfucking Mexicans have been firing on our border patrol agents.
ahhh salses.
[07:46]
yrmt_mexico played much better [07:46]
dbtid*salsas. [07:46]
zod000it was one incident, AZ border patrol looks shady, they probably though they were drug runners anyway [07:47]
dbtidonly one?? [07:47]
zod000the helicopter one [07:47]
dbtidthat's enough for me anyway [07:47]
zod000thought that is what you mean [07:47]
dbtiddbtid <3 Major League. [07:47]
zod000i have watched that movie is longer than SirSkidmore has been alive
s/is/in/
[07:48]
BryceBot<zod000> i have watched that movie in longer than SirSkidmore has been alive [07:48]
dbtidit's one of my favorites
for some reason, i like baseball movies
[07:49]
zod000i dislike "field of dreams' [07:49]
dbtidBull Durham, Major League, Field of Dreams... [07:49]
zod000if random dudes came out of my corn field, i'd shoot them [07:49]
dbtidthe one where Dennis Quaid played the pitcher
name i can't remember
for the Rangers
[07:49]
zod000oh and i REALLY h9 Major League [07:50]
dbtidwat? [07:50]
zod000it is like a high concentration of actors/actress i dislike [07:50]
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dbtidyou don't like the owner chick? [07:50]
zod000oh wait
nm
[07:50]
dbtidi like the dude who plays the coach [07:50]
zod000i was thinking "a league of their own"
fuck that movie
[07:51]
dbtidoh no that one sucks [07:51]
zod000major league is fine [07:51]
dbtidthe voodoo guy (cerrano) is a scream
"hats for bats... keep bats warm"
and his little buddy Jo-Bu
[07:51]
zod000you clearly remember more about that movie than I [07:52]
dbtidi watched it last night :)
it's on netflix now
[07:52]
zod000ah lol
i last watched it when it was new
[07:52]
dbtidhah
oh and wesley snipes as willie mays hayes
[07:52]
zod000my dad kept one of blockbuster's first copies and paid the $99 for it
he was fanatical like that
[07:53]
dbtidwhoa [07:53]
zod000the inital copies were always $99 until they officially went on sale [07:53]
dbtiddayum
crazy
[07:53]
zod000he also did that for dances with wolves and gladiator
crazy dad is crazy
[07:54]
dbtidnever saw DWW [07:54]
zod000it is full of way too much kevin costner [07:54]
dbtidheh
well i like kevin costner for the most part
[07:54]
zod000watch DWW and Water World, then talk to me [07:56]
dbtidi saw water world and actually liked it :)
so sue me :)
[07:56]
zod000zod000 calls his lawyer [07:57]
qbitdww? [07:57]
zod000qbit: dances with wolves [07:57]
qbitoh lol [07:57]
dbtidqbit: o/ [07:57]
zod000dbtid made up that acronym, i was just running with it because lazy [07:57]
dbtidlazy too [07:57]
qbitanyone watched eskanaba in da moonlight?
dbtid: o
[07:57]
zod000qbit: no idea wtf that is
so no
[07:57]
dbtidmeeither [07:58]
zenmowerlol
i might buy this for no reason
[07:58]
dbtidnospaces2daybciblazy [07:58]
zenmowerhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.pfitzinger.rec&hl=en
it looks cool
[07:58]
zod000zenmower: it does look cool [07:58]
zenmoweralas i have no one to interview [07:59]
zod000my phone rom has a nice "quick record" button on the settings shade. i find it made all other apps not needed [07:59]
dbtidzod000: oh, and there's a scene in ML where one of the guys brings out his contract to prove a point with the coach, and the coach takes the contract and pisses on it [08:00]
zod000still, this app looks cool [08:00]
qbithttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180679/ [08:00]
dbtidperfect [08:00]
qbitgreat movie :D [08:00]
BryceBotIMDB: "Escanaba in da Moonlight (2001)" [08:00]
zenmowerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg [08:00]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "Isn't that Special" by Dad Sixtyone (6s), 231,510 views, 278 likes and 16 dislikes. Uploaded 2010-01-12T15:49:40.000Z. [08:00]
zenmowerdamn my tooth hurts
DAMN THIS BUTCHER DENTIST
[08:00]
zod000qbit: i <3 jeff danials, but i don't think that movie will be for me [08:01]
dbtidzenmower: put a string on it and tie it to the door handle AND QUIT YOUR FUCKING COMPLAINING already [08:01]
zod000zenmower: sorry man, i h9 going to the dentist [08:01]
zenmowerME TOO
dbtid: fukk u
[08:01]
zod000expensive, painful, and boring [08:01]
dbtidzenmower: your wish [08:02]
zod000worst of all worlds [08:02]
dbtidzenmower: ain't gonna happen [08:02]
kusuriyadear god im doing this next license picture I have to take [08:02]
zenmowerdbtid: I WILL RAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH [08:02]
kusuriyahttp://imgur.com/gallery/RyZViIf [08:02]
zod000zenmower: you are making me worry about vegas
haha
[08:02]
mordac_good morning [08:02]
zod000good mordac mornind_ [08:03]
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SirSkidmorekusuriya: of course that's Indiana >.> [08:03]
mordaczod000 is having a seizure, quick someone get a camera [08:03]
qbitzod000: pfff [08:04]
zod000mordac: my father-in-law has seizures, they are less fun that you'd expect [08:04]
dbtidzod000: you should be worried [08:05]
mordaczod000: way to kill my joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWCy3AU88c8 [08:06]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "South Park - Don't say that Mike ! it was funny" by shawn laurin (27s), 6,591 views, 24 likes and 1 dislike. Uploaded 2013-03-29T20:33:21.000Z. [08:06]
zod000mordac: :D [08:06]
dbtidzenmower: are you coming out of the closet? [08:06]
zod000mordac: yeah, I made some good seizure jokes at their house, they were not appreciated either [08:07]
dbtidzod000: oh, THAT would have been HILARIOUS to watch :) [08:07]
zod000i don't remember most of them, but i know i told him "You weren't supposed to take 'Seize the day!' literally" [08:08]
dbtidlol [08:08]
zod000i thought it was funny [08:08]
mordacian curtis had seizures. ian curtis was cool. by the laws of transitivity... [08:08]
zod000i got dirty looks all around [08:08]
dbtidzod000: i think it's hilarious
they obviously had no sense of humor :)
[08:08]
zod000clearly :) [08:08]
dbtidalthough, they let their daughter marry you ;-) [08:09]
zenmowerit
er
[08:09]
zod000dbtid: speaking of, i told my wife the joke i made about her aunt dying [08:09]
zenmowerdbtid: it [08:09]
zod000that got me in trouble [08:09]
zenmoweris not gay if you are the one doing the raping [08:09]
zod000i knew it would [08:09]
dbtidzod000: so WHY oh WHY did you go there?
heh
zod000: make sure you get a room in a different hotel (hell, city) from zenmower
and triple lock your door
[08:09]
zenmowerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4k2ZjketOk [08:10]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "Harold and Kumar 2 Big Bob Clip" by Josh Fry (3m 24s), 165,028 views, 388 likes and 20 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-06-12T10:18:44.000Z. [08:10]
zod000dbtid: lol
nah, we'll be fine. you don't mess with a general
[08:11]
dbtidespecially one with heat vision [08:12]
zod000exactly [08:12]
qbitdiaf mcchunkie o/ [08:12]
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zod000eye lasers are the cause and solution to most of my problems [08:12]
jrick:> [08:12]
qbit-.- [08:13]
dbtidzod000: i can only imagine. [08:13]
zod000:D [08:13]
SirSkidmoredoes <: bother qbit too? [08:13]
zod000SirSkidmore: too?
i didn't know it bothered anyone EXCEPT him
[08:13]
dbtidbbl gonna go get my phone swapped out [08:14]
qbitSirSkidmore: nope [08:14]
zod000dbtid: good luck if you are going to an apple store [08:14]
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SirSkidmorezod000: qbit doesn't like :> I don't think [08:15]
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zod000SirSkidmore: oh, i misuderstood. no idea if the inverse also effects him [08:16]
joreys/ef/af/ [08:16]
BryceBot<zod000> SirSkidmore: oh, i misuderstood. no idea if the inverse also affects him [08:16]
zod000yes, that
thanks jorey
[08:16]
SirSkidmorebaaaaaaam [08:17]
zod000zod000 wanders off to get more coffee [08:17]
joreytry not to kill someone on your way
someone? anyone? whatever.
[08:17]
qbitmmm coffee
yesplz
[08:18]
SirSkidmoreI am currently on my 4th cup
and have amde 5 pots
[08:19]
kusuriyai need to consider some coffee or tea
im just not snapping out of my drowsyness
[08:20]
qbithow many cups of coffee do you guys drink a day? [08:21]
kusuriyadepends
i do 2 or 3
but on a particularly terrible day or if they day just had some awesome light roast ive had up to a pot
[08:21]
qbitk [08:22]
zod000qbit: i usually have 2, but also drink iced tea and have a caffeine pill
coffee is cold, no desire to make another pot so i am drinking tea
[08:24]
qbitcaffeine pill
hotdog
[08:25]
zod000qbit: it is the quickest and most cost effective way to perk up
90 pills is like $3.50
[08:25]
qbitinteresting
how many mg?
[08:25]
zod000200mg [08:25]
qbithotdog! [08:25]
zod000yeah, that is how i stopped drinking soda
replaced 2-4 soda a day with that
[08:26]
kusuriyapretty much
i cut most my soda
[08:27]
SirSkidmoreqbit: okay... yeah
at leeast 5 or 6
sometimes teetering on like 10
[08:27]
zod000lol [08:28]
SirSkidmoreI have a problem [08:28]
zod000i used to drink coffee a lot as a security admin as we had our own coffee maker and minifridge for real creamer
was easier 5-6 cups a day then
and we made super strong stuff
[08:28]
SirSkidmorezod000: I just drink it black :D [08:29]
Neihav to keep security strong [08:29]
kusuriyayeah when I did AD work we sat in a corner with 4 cubes that we had our backs to eachother [08:29]
zod000SirSkidmore: i like flavored creamer, but we used to use fine espresso in a normal coffee pot [08:29]
kusuriyaso we had a coffee maker on a mini fridge for us [08:29]
zod000the result was an uber dark coffe-like drink
creamer barely changed the color
[08:29]
kusuriyaand we used the threaten to beat people that came back to drink our coffee since we bought light roast
since everyone around here has some terrible facisnation with burnt coffee
[08:29]
qbitcrazy [08:32]
SirSkidmorekusuriya: yeah, I don't get that [08:32]
qbitqbit does ~2 [08:32]
SirSkidmorelike McDonald's coffee tastes so burnt all the time, and yet people like it [08:33]
zod000SirSkidmore: i don't find their coffee tasting burnt, at least nothing like starbucks [08:33]
SirSkidmoreI'd rather drink burnt coffee than Pike's Place, which tastes like I threw up in my mouth a little bit [08:33]
kusuriya^ [08:33]
SirSkidmoreI like Starbuck's Blonde and Dark roasts though
not my favorite, by any stretch, but I don't hate it
[08:34]
kusuriyayeah
light roast is the best roast
it has flavor
and more caffine
[08:35]
qbit^
tots
woman dislikes the light roasts
hurts
hurts bad
[08:36]
kusuriyaleave her
shes not worth it
[08:36]
bcallah#devious: provider of life lessons [08:37]
SirSkidmoreI love the Verdana Blonde, but I haven't tried the others [08:37]
bcallahwawa coffee is usually good
mostly because it's always fresh
at least the one by me is
[08:37]
joreykusuriya: not for espresso gthough
kusuriya: but for regular coffee, yeah, i agree
[08:38]
kusuriyayeah I tend to not do a lot of espresso though [08:38]
SirSkidmorebcallah: I think wawas are great [08:39]
zod000bcallah: yeah, wawa coffee is good. probably the best convenience store for coffee [08:39]
kusuriyatimmie hos coffe :D [08:39]
SirSkidmoreI wish they were around here [08:39]
zod000SirSkidmore: they only recently came here
opened up locations errwhere all at once
was impressive
[08:39]
SirSkidmoreI dpon't think they're really here in the midwest
s/dp/d/
[08:39]
BryceBot<SirSkidmore> I don't think they're really here in the midwest [08:40]
zod000SirSkidmore: well they basically moved in and are kicking everyone's ass. so they will likely keep expanding
they even have decent beer
they have a belgian tripel on their cooler[08:41] <zod000> in a gass station chain
seems nuts
also typos
[08:40]
bcallahyer, the one thing I'm gonna miss from moving is wawa [08:41]
kusuriyabcallah: where are you going? [08:42]
zod000hmm i just looked it up and wawa only came to my area of FL
lucky me
[08:43]
qbitoh no [08:43]
bcallahkusuriya: Troy, NY [08:43]
kusuriyaah [08:43]
qbitarp - Y U SLOW CONNECTING TO CO? [08:43]
SirSkidmorethe sub I had from there when I was in philly was even pretty good [08:43]
bcallahSirSkidmore: wawa is (at least here) actually known for their food
they were a straight up food place before they started doing gas too
[08:43]
zod000yeah, their food is excellent
makes sense
the fact that they have slightly cheaper gas than any other local gas station makes them unbeatable
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kylsnk: well, guess I'll have to stick to CL now [09:10]
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SirSkidmoremcchunkie: o/ [09:14]
mcchunkieo [09:14]
qbityis
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mcchunkiethanks qbit! [09:15]
qbityou dirty dirty bot! [09:15]
xptmcchunkie: take a shower! [09:15]
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brycecbrycec skimming the backlog when all of a sudden this stands out │08:02:14 +zenmower | dbtid: I WILL RAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH
You stay classy, #devious
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xpt@zenmower [09:25]
BryceBot21,751 results found. Here's #19,000 Aug 09, 2013 21:43:12 <zenmower > i think 3g [09:25]
brycec"Your photo spheres have been viewed more than 25,000 times on Google Maps and Views!"
heck yeah!
For those curious https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/101630348842342112827
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qbitgaiz
Dia Frampton
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kusuriyawell there we go I have a 117 gig skydrive
117gb in the cloud bitches!
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BryceBotTO THE CLOUD!!! [09:53]
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LeftyHmm, Beyerdynamic DT880 on massdrop today
Lefty hovers over "buy"
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mordaci want a watch.
and the AML watch looks nice
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bcallahlol
massdrop: slowly killing #devious, financially
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qbitbrycec: https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/108155057102084949527?gl=us 1 view :D [10:19]
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mordacbcallah has it on the mark [10:21]
Leftyyeah, I caved, bought the DT880s [10:21]
mordacmordac heads to work [10:21]
brycecqbit: that says you have 36 views [10:21]
LeftyI have a nice amp that will drive them @ 600 ohm just fine [10:21]
zod000wooo Lefty++ [10:22]
qbitbrycec: oh lol
"1 photosphere
"
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bcallahheh [10:23]
brycecGood fail :) [10:23]
xptkusuriya: you encrypt your skydrive content or you share it with whole fuckin' world? [10:23]
kyllol xpt [10:23]
kusuriyaxpt: depends on what it is [10:23]
dbtidhe's got a big heart -- he shares with everyone [10:23]
zod000Lefty: what headphones do you currently use/halve? [10:26]
LeftyATH-M50 at work, crappy gaming headset at home [10:27]
bcallahwhoa... why are we halving headphones? [10:27]
kylbecause [10:27]
zod000bcallah: for people like Van Gogh, obviously [10:27]
Leftyso I'll keep the M50 at work since they'll have better isolation and can be easily driven by the MBP [10:27]
kylone ear to listen
one ear to listen to other people
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Leftyand use the DT880s at home with the headphone amp I've got [10:28]
bcallahI have IRC explicited cause I don't wanna hear you people [10:28]
qbitbrycec: https://www.google.com/maps/views/profile/108155057102084949527?gl=us o/
moar :D
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zod000Lefty: sounds like a good plan [10:28]
bcallahif I did, we'd do a mumble chat or some shit [10:28]
Leftyisolation isn't as big a deal at home most of the time [10:28]
zod000bcallah: i am not sure you could handle the sultry sound of my voice all day
:D
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kyl^ [10:28]
Lefty#devious podcast
gogogogo
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qbitdevioucast [10:29]
joreyplease don't [10:29]
xptkyl: what? he have more skydrive storage than i have on all my disks
kyl: I'm jelly
that's all
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zod000s/disks/floppies diskettes/ [10:30]
BryceBot<xpt> kyl: what? he have more skydrive storage than i have on all my floppies diskettes [10:30]
zod000bah
fail
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dbtidheh
nice try though
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xptzod000: to be honest: the diks I'm concidering 'mine' have ~ 50 GB ;) [10:31]
kyls/ks/cks/ [10:31]
BryceBot<xpt> zod000: to be honest: the dicks I'm concidering 'mine' have ~ 50 GB ;) [10:31]
bryceccongrats on the more photospheres, qbit [10:31]
Leftys/GB/inches/ [10:31]
BryceBot<xpt> zod000: to be honest: the diks I'm concidering 'mine' have ~ 50 inches ;) [10:31]
dbtidwhy does no one know how to spell anymore? [10:31]
zod000dbtid: Obama [10:31]
qbit^
zod000: o/
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zod000o [10:32]
dbtidzod000: ++
that MUST be it
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Leftyxpt has an excuse, though, because THE REST OF THE WORLD [10:32]
kylTHANKS OBAMA [10:32]
xpt'Oba ma.' Is a propper sentence in polish. [10:32]
zod000back in the day you used to have to buy a vowel on wheel of fortune, under Obama the government just hands them out [10:32]
Leftyxpt: what does it translate to? [10:32]
xpt'He has both' [10:33]
Leftyhahahahahaha
Lefty dies laughing
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dbtidzod000: good one :) [10:33]
bryceclol qbit the panorama decided your lady's head don't matter https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/108155057102084949527/gphoto/6030774630904550466 [10:33]
Leftyhermaphrobama [10:33]
dbtidqbit's lady? [10:33]
xptLefty: There was even commercial in Poland that used this sentence. [10:33]
Leftythat's awesome [10:33]
zod000brycec: I am sure there is a joke about head from a lady, but I'll leave it alone [10:33]
bryceczod000: I was just thinking it left the most important parts [10:34]
dbtidbrycec: you think? [10:34]
brycecdbtid: I do. Obviously she wouldn't/couldn't :p [10:35]
qbitbrycec: you made a similar comment when i shared it the first time :D
dbtid: ya
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brycecqbit: Well at least I'm consistent. [10:36]
qbit:D [10:36]
brycec:D [10:38]
qbitbcallah: potato
:D
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bcallahqbit: o/ [10:42]
ampharostempleos eh https://twitter.com/TempleOS/status/483645496951848961 [10:43]
BryceBotTWITTER: Yeah, I killed a CIA nigger with my car in 1999. Score one for the good guys. (Mon Jun 30 16:17:26 +0000 2014) [10:43]
SirSkidmorewtf [10:43]
xpt13:33:10 @brycec | lol qbit the panorama decided your lady's head don't matter https://www.google.com/maps/views/view/108155057102084949527/gphoto/6030774630904550466 ??? ampharos
fff...
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brycec??? [10:44]
SirSkidmorelol [10:44]
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qbitwat [10:49]
elalowat wat [10:50]
Leftytriplewat [10:51]
elalothis sound serious.
typing broken, 11am and no coffee.
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qbitohgod
get you some coffee!
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dbtidme too [10:57]
xptme three [11:03]
kylkyl has coffee [11:05]
jrickjrick had coffee [11:05]
qbitqbit has lemon water [11:06]
dbtidO.o lemon water?
wtf qbit?
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xpts/water/party/ [11:07]
BryceBot<dbtid> O.o lemon party? [11:07]
xptought to be water$ :( I failed :'( [11:08]
qbit:O [11:08]
dbtidqbit: i wouldn't do that around zenmower
something bad could happen
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zod000s/water/party/ [11:10]
BryceBot<xpt> ought to be party$ :( I failed :'( [11:10]
zod000dammit xpt
haha
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Guest17404this is insanely addicting http://rednuht.org/genetic_cars_2/
MOTHER FUCKER
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kylhey piroko [11:12]
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xptzod000: wasn't me, it would trigger dbtid's. [11:12]
zod000xpt: was no one's fault but my own for not reading full scrollback [11:15]
dbtidyeah, as usual, it's all your fault.
when is it NOT your fault?
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xptzod000: well, yea, but I was thae one you blamed... [11:19]
zod000xpt: it was more of a "damn you for beating me to the punch" and then it failed anyway [11:21]
qbitwho uses duplicity here? [11:22]
dbtidonly when i want to get someting.
*something
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zod000not me, I'm honest [11:22]
dbtidsuuuure [11:22]
zod000dbtid++ [11:22]
dbtidyou say that
:)
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zod000I used to use duplicity, but now I am all about skulduggery and chicanery [11:23]
qbitwut
ba: skulduggery
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mcchunkieABV: 8.00%, BA Rating: no score, BA Score: -, Brewery: Gordon Creek Brewery, Bros Score: -, Country: , Name: Skulduggery Oyster Imperial Stout, State: , Style: , pDev: 0%
Wants, rAvg: 3.75
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qbitlol [11:24]
zod000qbit: l2thesaurus [11:24]
kyl^ [11:24]
qbitqbit needs to think about this for a sec [11:25]
zod000s/sec/eon/ [11:25]
BryceBot>>> qbit needs to think about this for a eon [11:25]
dbtidqbit's normally quicker than that
maybe half an eon?
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zod000i waited three seconds and nothing response, so i upped my game
anyway
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dbtidthree seconds is half an eon in computer terms
at 3GHz that's 9 billion clock cycles!
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zod000sounds legit
qbit: speaking of beer, yeungling put out a wheat beer that is not terrible recently
it was $14 for a 24pack at sam's club
stupidly cheap
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dbtidwqq yuengling
ewww i mean
i have had their beer
ick
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zod000dbtid: not that i am a tremendous fan of their standard beer, but what do you think is a good beer? [11:28]
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zod000i think yeungling trounces everything in their price range normally
this beer will make an effective shield around my good beer on the 4th
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qbitzod000: nice [11:30]
zod000no one will see the la fin in the back of the fridhe [11:30]
dbtidzod000: if i tell you the beer i like you will probably make fun of me, so i'll pass :) [11:31]
elalopilsner urquell is good beer [11:31]
zod000dbtid: of course I will [11:31]
dbtidhah [11:31]
zod000elalo: i find it meh, but better than the murrican peers [11:31]
elalolagunitas IPA is good beer [11:31]
qbitwhich one
they ha velike j3899283 ipas
:D
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zod000^ [11:32]
dbtidthat's a biiiiig number [11:32]
elalothe one with 'lagunitas ipa' on the front. [11:32]
qbitbeer: lagunitas undercover [11:32]
mcchunkieLagunitas Brewing Company (1993 : http://www.lagunitas.com/ ) Undercover Investigation Shut-Down Ale ( ABV: 9.7 IBU: ? ) - Our oxymoronic 'Imperial Mild' - A redux to remember the '05 St. Paddy's Day Massacre. Defiant as to style ... We Can say for sure it is unforgiven and unrepentant. [11:32]
qbitthat one is my fav [11:32]
zod000i cna handle some of the lagunitas IPAs, but some are over the top [11:32]
elalothere used to be only one lagunitas ipa. now there are many.
anchor steam is good beer
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zod000uber bitter IPAs take like what i imagine urinal cakes taste like [11:33]
qbitelalo: cool - i have had the one with IPA on it [11:33]
elalorogue dead guy ale is my favorite. [11:33]
zod000i like bell's two hearted ale
elalo: i tried to like rogue, but i just didn't
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brycecoyvey it's not even noon and you lot are discussing beer already [11:34]
elalorogue makes a few beers. they're all very serious about being beer. [11:34]
zod000brycec: 2:34pm here, totally fine [11:34]
elalozod000: not even noon here. :) [11:34]
zod000elalo: just talk about a breakfast beer
:)
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elaloi thought i was [11:35]
zod000lololol [11:35]
dxtrDear god..
I'm watching a political debate on TV¨
The feminist party wants to remove pay raises for men "until women catches up"
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zod000usually when i get an IPA it is from a local place because of peer pressure to support local breweries [11:35]
dxtrAnd the other guy is like "But.. women have lower salaries because they work part time" [11:35]
zod000dxtr: that is so crazy it might happen in Sweden [11:36]
elalothats crazy talk [11:36]
dbtidcould only happen in sweden [11:36]
zod000just wait, someone will get a sex change to get raises [11:36]
dxtrzod000: This is why I hate feminism [11:36]
elalodxtr is usually all about being from sweden. how does the other shoe fit i wonder? [11:36]
dbtidzod000: i'm sure it's already happened [11:36]
zod000haha
dxtr: i hate most -isms
but i am cool with Isoms
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dbtidzod000: pssst dxtr used to be a girl
isoms are cooler than isms
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elalosnapshot.isos are even cooler [11:37]
zod000kyl: time to change your name I guess [11:38]
dbtidkyle iso [11:38]
xptdamn!
I'm getting sober
please halp
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zod000xpt: the power is in you! [11:39]
dbtiddrink less coffee [11:39]
zod000or can be if you buy more alcohol [11:39]
kyliso as in isomorphic digital life form [11:39]
zod000if you like [11:39]
dxtrzod000: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gudrun_Schyman <- This will be the our death [11:39]
xptzod000: buy an alcoho? i have like 5 gallons of wine in apartment [11:39]
BryceBotError in Wikipedia's response: [11:39]
dxtrour == sweden [11:39]
dbtidtil xpt is a lush [11:40]
zod000xpt: so you are complaining that the wine doesn't come to you? [11:40]
dxtrxpt: Do you measure in gallons in Poland? [11:40]
zod000s/complaining/whining/ [11:40]
BryceBot<zod000> xpt: so you are whining that the wine doesn't come to you? [11:40]
xptzod000: nah, we are using SI, but well i could use 'shitload' measure aswell [11:40]
dxtrSo you have 18.9270589 liters of wine? [11:41]
zod000shitload is fairly universal, because everybody poops [11:41]
xptdxtr: oh, gallon is *that* small?
I was almost sure that gallon is over 5l
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dxtrApparently [11:41]
zod000xpt: nope
just under 4L
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xptso i have 5 shitloads of wine [11:41]
zod000haha [11:41]
dxtrWine...
TIL xpt is a pussy
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xptlike 40l
dxtr: that's home-made wine
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dxtrAnd?
"I SWEAR! IT'S HOMEMADE COTTON CANDY!"
"I POOP BUTTERFLIES!"
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bcallahhmm [11:42]
xptrotfl [11:42]
zod000umm
dxtr might be dying already.
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xptdxtr: I don;t like the wine from the shops actually [11:43]
zod000he said that dude would be the death of them [11:43]
dbtidzod000: he is [11:43]
zod000i just thought he had more time
so sad
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dxtrxpt: I don't drink wine whatsoever [11:43]
dbtidlet's write a eulogy for dxtr [11:43]
dxtrWines taste-to-alcohol-ratio isn't particularly good [11:43]
elalodxtr: the feminist party received only 0.4% of the votes. i think you're safe. [11:44]
dxtrelalo: Uhm.. what? Are you a time traveller? [11:44]
xptdxtr: oh, you mean that wines under 14% [11:44]
elalo>>
< <
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dxtrxpt: No. I mean wine. [11:45]
elaloa typographically challenged time traveller. [11:45]
zod000elalo: this is what Siri and Google Now do to the world [11:45]
xptdxtr: I think that definition of wine is 'an alcohol that is made from ferment fruits which is not higher then 14%' [11:46]
zod000xpt: never heard 14% used in the def, is that related to your country maybe? [11:47]
elalobarley wine. you haven't been hammered till you
have consumed chalices of barley wine.
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dbtidi had some really great moonshine once [11:48]
elalobeing drunk on barley wine is like being hungover while you're still in the middle of drinking. [11:49]
dbtidwhen i was in college we used to drink everclear [11:49]
zod000i have never found any moonshine to be "really great" unless you mean "really effective" [11:49]
dbtidwe'd mix it with all kinds of stuff [11:49]
xptzod000: ys, in poland 'strong wine' is upto 18% of alcohol
above that - it;s not a wine
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zod000xpt: odd, i know some wines can go up to like 22-25% [11:50]
dbtidi want me some of that wine! [11:50]
zod000sherry and port win both go over 20 [11:50]
dbtidima gonna get coffee now [11:50]
xptwell, averae yeast usually dies above 14% [11:50]
dbtidgot a webex in 10 mins [11:50]
zod000dbtid: enjoy [11:51]
dxtrzod000: Port wine isn't regular wine
"Fortified wine is a wine to which a distilled spirit, usually brandy, is added"
In Sweden we make a different between them too
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xptdxtr: well, i do like taste of home-made wine, if it uits you, you can call me a pussy, but i usually drink moxtures that contains 50% of pure vodka and other liquor [11:52]
elalodxtr: swedish wine is like english breakfast. [11:52]
xptusually it;'s 50% of vodka, and 50% of vodka [11:52]
dxtrelalo: There's swedish wine?
We're part of the vodka belt :p
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elalohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_wine [11:55]
BryceBotIce wine :: Ice wine (or icewine; German Eiswein) is a type of dessert wine produced from grapes that have been frozen while still on the vine. The sugars and other dissolved solids do not freeze, but the water does, allowing a more concentrated grape must to be pressed from the frozen grapes, resulting in a smaller amount of more concentrated, very sweet wine. With ice wines, the freezing happens before the fermentation, not afterwards... [11:55]
zod000vodka belt lol [11:55]
dxtrelalo: Never even heard of
As I said; I don't drink wine
It tastes bad in my mouth :(
I can live with stuff tasting bad if the alcohol content is high enough. And wines taste-to-alcohol-ratio never seems to be good enough
I downed a $300 whisky with cola :D
om nom
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dbtidfurther proof that dxtr needs to be taken out and shot [11:58]
ampharosdo black people even use bsd [11:58]
dxtrdbtid: I mixed it with coffee too [11:58]
dbtidampharos: yes [11:58]
dxtrampharos: No. They're banned from using it. [11:59]
zod000zod000 sighs [11:59]
dxtrzod000: Btw, we have a christian party called "The Christ Democrats" :D [12:00]
ampharosi know a black guy but he's a hardcore gnu fanboy [12:00]
kylthe christocrats! [12:00]
zod000kyl: o/ [12:00]
dxtrThey actually seems to have one decent opinion [12:00]
kylo [12:01]
brycecI don't understand how these people even remember to keep breathing... "OH GOD IT'S NOT WORKING SEND US A REPLACEMENT NOW!!!" ... Oh look the logs show this system was still up and running, and working, 3 days after you were crying wolf.
(up until they pulled the power and shipped it)
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zod000brycec: part shady, part lazy, all customer [12:01]
bryceczod000: they didn't get a replacement, fyi, so no shady at least. (doesn't stop them from asking... but there's a fee associated and they're not willing to pay it)
Agreed 100% "customer"/"user"
Also means they lied to us
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xptampharos: I'm not rcist, but apshalt have to know it's place. [12:04]
brycec^^ seems exceedingly racist [12:04]
ampharosrants start with i'm not racist BUT i don't want black people voting [12:05]
xptbrycec: It's actuall saying in Poland [12:05]
brycec(unless "asphalt" means something different in Poland, and you weren't just comparing black people with roadbed.) [12:05]
xptbrycec: It indeed means roadbed.
in polish
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elaloxpt: the only obviously racist part of your statement was 'im not racist but...' [12:06]
zod000I don't want to sound like a dick, but <INSERT DICK THING TO SAY HERE> [12:06]
kusuriyaIm not racist I have black freinds.. [12:06]
elalosuper racist
s/cist/cialist
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BryceBot<elalo> super racialist [12:07]
kbwbcallah: I was sifting through my email and noticed it was you that helped me make the BitchX port ages ago
I found it hard to believe at first
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brycecI don't... bcallah is the ports master [12:07]
zod000^ [12:08]
kbwI don't remember him being as bitter as he is [12:08]
brycecdepends on his BAC [12:08]
kbwBAC? [12:08]
zod000kbw: he is never bitter, he is just channeling his inner Theo [12:08]
brycec@wiki BAC [12:08]
BryceBotBAC :: BAC or Bac may refer to: Arts and entertainment Baryshnikov Arts Center, in Manhattan, New York City Batman: Arkham City, a 2011 video game Battersea Arts Centre, London, England Benedicta Arts Center, St. Joseph, Minnesota, USA Big Apple Chorus, New York based barbershop chorus Boston Area Crusaders, former name of the Boston Crusaders Drum and Bugle Corps... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAC [12:08]
brycecbah! [12:08]
elaloblood alcohol content. [12:08]
brycec@wiki Blood Alcohol Content [12:08]
kbwWait, hold on [12:08]
BryceBotBlood alcohol content :: Blood alcohol content (BAC), also called blood alcohol concentration, blood ethanol concentration, or blood alcohol level is most commonly used as a metric of alcohol intoxication for legal or medical purposes. Blood alcohol content is usually expressed as a percentage of alcohol (generally in the sense of ethanol) in the blood in units of mass of alcohol... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood%20alcohol%20content [12:08]
kbwNo, that wasn't true
He was who added it to openbsd-wip
Someone else helped me
Makes perfect sense
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elalokbw: this is where bcallah would say 'youve just wasted our time' [12:09]
brycec@tdr [12:09]
BryceBotTheo de Raadt says: You are in a maze of gpio pins, all alike, all undocumented, and a few are wired to bombs. [12:09]
brycec@tdr [12:09]
BryceBotTheo de Raadt says: the randomization in this entire codebase is a grand experiment in stupid [12:09]
zod000bcallah: congrats, your rep isn't ruined by unsubstantiated rumors of being helpful [12:09]
SirSkidmorezod000++ [12:10]
elalobcallah is very helpful. soul-crushingly helpful. [12:10]
zod000a man doesn't become a legend by being all nice [12:10]
xptzod000: how about buda?
budda?
or buddha? whatever you cal him :P
[12:11]
kylwe call him jesus here [12:11]
brycecGates, Theo, Branson, Musk, Ballmer
5 legends that aren't all-nice
[12:12]
kbwJust deleted a whole bunch of messages
Only kept some valuable info like my paypal account and some messages between me and richard stallman
[12:12]
dxtry u delete messages? [12:13]
brycecAlso there are no first or second-hand accounts of Buddha or Jesus, it's all stories passed down, subject to poetic license.
@rms
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BryceBotRichard Stallman says: I've read that male dolphins try to have sex with humans, and female apes solicit sex from humans. What is wrong with giving them what they want, if that's what turns you on, or even just to gratify them? [12:13]
dxtrI just move all messages from "Inbox" to "Archive" [12:13]
kbwdxtr: the messages weren't important to me [12:13]
bcallahkbw: if you check openbsd-wip, I left a rather assholish comment about you finishing it yourself
:D
[12:13]
kbwI also made some filters to delete messages [12:13]
bcallahdon't let anyone tell you I'm not soul-crushing [12:13]
kbwbcallah: you can delete it if you want [12:14]
xptkbw: he can't
it's on the internetz
[12:14]
kbwOh, ok then [12:14]
xptif a thing gets on the internetz it never dissapears [12:14]
bcallahof course I can delete it [12:15]
kbwI'd rather make my own ports repo on github that I can have more control of [12:15]
zod000xpt: Budda was a jerk, how else did he get such a large stomach other than eating the food of others
seems obvious
[12:15]
dxtrzod000: Meditation [12:16]
xptzod000: He have so hudge stomach because he didnt ate at all! [12:16]
kbwI wish FreeBSD's ports tree wasn't so broken and unusable [12:16]
zod000xpt: so he was just full of happy thoughts and hot air? [12:16]
kbwOpenBSD's I've never had problems with
Is there a reason for this? Quality expectations for both the BSDs?
[12:16]
xptzod000: nah, he was more like them: http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-5/Romani-children_Auschwitz.GIF [12:17]
kbwOr is it because FreeBSD's is bigger and harder to manage? [12:17]
dxtrGypsies! [12:17]
zod000xpt: delightful [12:17]
bcallahkbw: the only thing freebsd cares about is zfs
zfs isn't a port, so
[12:18]
kbwSounds pretty subjective [12:19]
bcallahnope
you're just not paying attention
[12:19]
kbwI never used ZFS because I really don
't have a use for it
[12:19]
joreybcallah: zfs and jails. don't forget jails. [12:19]
bcallahthat's true
but jails also aren't a port :D
[12:20]
kbwUFS is faster, and I don't need things like compression and the weird topology ZFS has [12:20]
joreyindeed [12:20]
dxtrNot to be that guy but zfs is more than compression [12:20]
joreyzfs is nice to have and openbsd certainly could use support for a more modern fs [12:21]
kbwbcallah: why is it that OpenBSD doesn't have any virtualization capabilities(to my knowledge)? [12:21]
joreybut that's just not top priority [12:21]
kbwSome philosophical reason?
"modern"
[12:21]
joreyand i'm far from knowledgable enough to even consider working on it :p [12:21]
dxtrkbw: As far as I understand it's because the openbsd people thinks virtualization is just for security and "it's not secure" [12:21]
qbithttps://i.imgur.com/rcePPay.jpg?1 [12:21]
kbwUFS/FFS was very innovative when it first appeared.
Check out what Kirk McKusick has to say about it.
[12:22]
SirSkidmoreqbit: o/ [12:22]
dxtrWhat I like the most about ZFS is the logical volumes. I love me some logical volumes. [12:22]
brycecEasily replicated logical volumes!
And shapshotting
[12:22]
dxtr"Oh, I'd like to put this in its own partition" -> zfs create -> "done!" [12:23]
Boohbah_i like the COW [12:23]
dxtrbrycec: also that [12:23]
snkbrycec: ya, zfs send is pretty awesome
OSSOM
[12:23]
qbitSirSkidmore: 0 [12:23]
dxtrBoohbah_: I like cows too [12:23]
Boohbah_please give me an openbsd shell kthx [12:23]
***brycec sets mode: +b *!~Boohbah@gateway/tor-sasl/boohbah [12:23]
dxtrThey have both milk and beef [12:23]
***Boohbah_ was kicked by brycec (Boohbah_) [12:23]
bcallahdamnit!
I wanted to /kickban Boohbah_
:(
[12:23]
kbwbrycec: why's boohbah banned? [12:23]
snk15:23:16 Boohbah_ | please give me an openbsd shell kthx [12:24]
kbwI know him from #defocus and #anapnea [12:24]
joreyof course ufs was nice back in the day. and of course it's still useable. and of course kirk mckusick has a lot of good things to say about "his" fs. that's not the point though :) [12:24]
snki think [12:24]
brycec│12:23:17 Boohbah_ | please give me an openbsd shell kthx [12:24]
qbitlol [12:24]
kbwlol [12:24]
snklol [12:24]
qbitlol [12:24]
kbwMissed that [12:24]
jrickplease give me an openbsd shell kthx [12:24]
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snkkthx [12:24]
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brycecyou already have one, jrick... [12:24]
qbithaha [12:24]
bryceclalqbit [12:24]
joreyhe wants another one. [12:24]
qbitjrick: o/ [12:24]
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kbwplease give me r00t kthx [12:24]
snk;) [12:25]
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snkwb jrick kthx [12:25]
qbitoh ! jrick LoK o/ [12:25]
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[12:25]
jrickqbit: yeah it's good
I like the basement dwelling airbender
[12:25]
qbitjrick: did i miss something? I don't remember any of the people they broke out
except that one guy
maybe
the "leader"
[12:25]
kbwbrycec: I'm haxoring your bot right now [12:25]
brycecok [12:25]
jrickqbit: you watch the 3 episodes? [12:25]
qbitjrick: ya [12:26]
Kur00hmmn [12:26]
***Kur00 is now known as kur0 [12:26]
jrickqbit: those criminals are new characters [12:26]
qbitall of them? [12:27]
jrickyeah [12:27]
qbitdamn [12:27]
xptkbw: try s/^.+$//mode +b #devious kbw/ [12:27]
qbitthought the leader dude was the "blood bender" guy
from back in the day
[12:27]
xptkbw: It always work. [12:27]
qbitcan't remember if he died or not [12:27]
jrickhe's dead bro [12:27]
kur0qbit: o/ [12:27]
kbws/^.+$//mode +b #devious kbw/
wat
[12:27]
brycecRight, because "PRIVMSG mode..." has ever worked [12:27]
qbitkur0: 1o
aw
jrick: k
[12:28]
brycec(even PRIVMSG /mode" [12:28]
qbit) [12:28]
piroko() [12:28]
qbitrisp [12:28]
kbw{} [12:28]
xpt)( [12:28]
jrick(.) (.) [12:28]
pirokoasking for a shell is a bannable offense? [12:28]
SirSkidmoreshell pl0x? [12:28]
kbwvoid main() { puts("Hello World"); } [12:28]
brycecpiroko: ticking off the admins is [12:28]
xptpiroko: nah, only on irc [12:28]
brycec/kickban SirSkidmore [12:28]
jrick@go import "fmt"; func main() { fmt.Println("shell kthx?") } [12:29]
BryceBotprog.go:1: package statement must be firstn [process exited with non-zero status]n [12:29]
kbwvoid is best return type... always! [12:29]
SirSkidmores/^sh/seash/ [12:29]
BryceBot<SirSkidmore> seashell pl0x? [12:29]
jrickdamn
@go package main; import "fmt"; func main() { fmt.Println("shell kthx?") }
[12:29]
BryceBotshell kthx?n [12:29]
joreythere's something about "don't be annoying in our irc chan" in the rules [12:29]
bryceclol seashell
well done jrick
[12:29]
kbwcsh [12:29]
dxtrzod000: Poop! [12:29]
kbwI always read csh as seashell [12:29]
SirSkidmorebrycec: that was me haha [12:29]
kbwDoes anybody use csh nowadays? [12:29]
brycecbecause that's correct, c-shell [12:29]
kbwIt seems pretty brain damaged, with the whole alias thing [12:29]
bryceccsh is default on FreeBSD I think [12:30]
pirokobrycec: lol if that's a crime I should've been banned a long time ago ;) [12:30]
brycecor was? [12:30]
SirSkidmoreIf you're really good, you would pronounce it see-shell [12:30]
kbwbrycec: lies [12:30]
dxtrbrycec: That's tcsh. Or am I wrong? [12:30]
kbwNot on 9.x+ [12:30]
bryceckbw: I'm going back to the 6.x days [12:30]
kbwAh [12:30]
dxtrtcsh, pronounced tshh [12:30]
brycecbut turns out that's tcsh I'm thinking of [12:30]
kbwI compared FreeBSD and OpenBSD's src/sys/kern directories [12:30]
joreyit wasn't until 2-3 months ago that i learned how to pronounce "sql" [12:30]
brycec"The admins can be pretty vindictive. Try not to tick them off." [12:30]
kbwFreeBSD's is a lot bigger
And different
[12:31]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore pokes at brycec with a stick [12:31]
qbitjrick++ [12:31]
dxtrjorey; Technically ESS-QUE-ELL isn't wrong [12:31]
xptkbw: user for 'identity managament'' uses csh in my corporation [12:31]
joreyand i was /very/ confused when i heard someone repeatedly use the word "sequel" and i thought i was just not up to date on some technology [12:31]
SirSkidmorebrycec: o/ [12:31]
xptkbw: well, they are trying to install it [12:31]
SirSkidmoreplease don't hate me [12:31]
kbwxpt: what OS? [12:31]
bryceclol jorey [12:31]
bcallahkbw: it's almost like they're 2 different operating systems [12:31]
xptkbw: all non-windows in my corporation [12:32]
jrickevery bsd is the same
and they're all dying
[12:32]
kbwlol [12:32]
bcallahbut only realBSD is real [12:32]
joreybcallah: nah, can't be, they're both called "bsd"
:p
[12:32]
zod000jrick: truth [12:32]
kbwRetroBSD is best [12:32]
jrickCorporateBSD [12:32]
dxtrjorey: We say ess-cue-ell at work even though we know it's most often pronounced sequel. It's hard translating SQL to "sequel" and old habits, etc :P [12:32]
xptkbw: linux (redhat, sles) and AIX
not sure if os-400 have csh actually
[12:32]
kbwClosedBSD (actually exists) [12:32]
SirSkidmore@google realBSD [12:32]
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[12:32]
SirSkidmorenope okay [12:32]
kbwxpt: I've always wanted to play with one of those non-Solaris System V derivatives [12:33]
bcallahSirSkidmore: realBSD is Mac OS X [12:33]
jrickFrealsBSD [12:33]
SirSkidmorebcallah++
the realest
[12:33]
bcallahkbw: I work on RetroBSD [12:33]
snkFoshizBSD [12:33]
kbw"OS X is UNIX" says anyone who doesn't know what UNIX is [12:33]
jricksnk: o/ [12:33]
dxtrDogeBSD [12:33]
snkjrick: o [12:33]
dxtrMuch UNIX [12:33]
xpts/og/odg/ [12:33]
BryceBot<dxtr> DodgeBSD [12:33]
kbwdxtr: let's not make this a thing [12:33]
dxtrSuch POSIX [12:33]
bcallahVery standards
wow
[12:33]
jrickVery dying [12:34]
SirSkidmoremuch style(9) [12:34]
dxtrbcallah :D [12:34]
elalomany login [12:34]
kbwbcallah: neat. It runs on routers, right?
Or microcontrollers? I forget
[12:34]
xptkbw: I'm trolling the "IDM" guys and I point out every single rule that I can to make their work harder
kbw: mostly because i'm forced to install it without 'project'
[12:34]
kbwxpt: what to the identity management guys actually do? [12:34]
elalothis is the solitary BSD convention attendee representing the NetBSD team: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3QBvFPF0VA [12:34]
BryceBotYouTube Tech: "Using NetBSD 6.1" by 4allChrist (10m 53s), 2,597 views. Uploaded 2013-06-02T18:06:45.000Z. [12:35]
dxtrSeriously guys.. The world needs DogeBSD [12:35]
qbitdxtr: agreein [12:35]
dxtrThis is what the internet was created for [12:35]
SirSkidmorewell [12:35]
kbwOh NetBSDm what happened to you :/ [12:35]
bcallahkbw: PIC32 [12:35]
SirSkidmorebasically, we (devious) should fork OpenBSD
it would be like a colony
[12:35]
kbwIn the 90s NetBSD was supposed to be the savior of UNIX [12:35]
SirSkidmorewhere we would rule [12:35]
kbwNow it lies in Linux and the other BSDs' shadow [12:35]
joreySirSkidmore: sure, and we'll name it bitrig
wait..
[12:36]
dxtrkbw: Kinda weird considering NetBSD have some pretty neat things
Rump kernel
[12:36]
xptkbw: They just have shtty position, It' our boss (we have common boss) that made them do me a harm, and i'm helping them to achieve cadmean victory [12:36]
dxtrRumpkernel would be swedish for "butt kernel" [12:36]
kbwdxtr: the binary emulation was really impressive early on [12:36]
bcallahs/some pretty/no/ [12:36]
BryceBot<dxtr> kbw: Kinda weird considering NetBSD have no neat things [12:36]
jrickBitrig 0.1-current (GENERIC) #1: Mon Jun 16 18:11:27 MDT 2014
dun be jealous
[12:36]
kbwdxtr: the fact it could run the programs of all the other UNIXes made people think it was _the_ replacement [12:36]
SirSkidmoreoh man [12:37]
xptjrick: i'm not [12:37]
bcallahfun fact: Bitrig has always been 0.1-current [12:37]
kbwbcallah: they have lua in their kernel :p [12:37]
SirSkidmorethis is the first time I'm actually googling about bitrig [12:37]
bcallahchances bitrig cuts an actual release
let's take bets
I go over/under 20%
[12:37]
kbwI always thought bitrig would be vaporware [12:37]
dxtrkbw: I don't know enough about lua, but it sounds pretty neat to have a scripting language in the kernel [12:38]
bcallahunless you work for marco, it is
lua in the kernel is madness
[12:38]
jrickmarco didn't even know I was runnign bitrig [12:38]
joreyi lurked in their channel for a while, but i lost interest. it wasn't a "i want to use this" interest to begin with, much more "i'm interested what this project is becoming", but oh well. [12:38]
kbwbcallah: luddite much? [12:38]
jrickhe kept asking me to test things on openbsd [12:38]
bcallahkbw: no? [12:38]
kbwdxtr: it doesn't actually run lua scripts [12:38]
bcallahdo you know what a luddite is? [12:38]
kbwdxtr: the kernel module implements the lua VM, to run compiled code [12:38]
jrickjorey: lots of armv7 work going on right now [12:39]
dxtrkbw: right [12:39]
joreyyeah. they talked a lot about that kind of stuff. and development boards. etc. [12:39]
kbwI need to get out my CRT monitor :/ [12:39]
SirSkidmoreweren't the ludites like textile people in the 19th century? [12:39]
kbwThere's a growing population of CRT fanboys out there [12:40]
bcallahSirSkidmore: yes [12:40]
kbwTheir points are somewhat valid [12:40]
SirSkidmorebcallah: o/
oh yeah
[12:40]
jrickand bitrig has wapbl <3 [12:40]
kbwThat CRTs have overall better contrast and color [12:40]
bcallahit also refers today to people who are against technological progress [12:40]
zod000CRT++ [12:40]
bcallahwhich lua in the kernel is a regression [12:40]
kbwEverything looks sharp, not blocky at all [12:40]
SirSkidmorethat's why I got a 5 on my AP World history test [12:40]
kbwI want to get one [12:40]
joreySirSkidmore: that's what they were, but the word's being used in an extended meaning nowadays, at least the german one. [12:40]
SirSkidmoreoh [12:40]
dxtrSuch contrast [12:41]
SirSkidmoredid not know that
that's fun
[12:41]
joreySirSkidmore: (though in german it's very, very uncommon to hear the word) [12:41]
dxtrVery color [12:41]
zod000kbw: actually CRT tend to not look as sharp, the color, contrast, and responsiveness are better for sure [12:41]
bcallahCRT = such deep, rich color
can run at many resolutions without nonsense
[12:41]
kbwbcallah: I think the concept is pretty cool, not sure how useful it is [12:41]
bcallahmakes me ejaculate [12:41]
SirSkidmorehawt [12:41]
kbwbcallah: are you using sarcasm? [12:41]
zod000bcallah: that is the reason i use it for mame, LCD are shit for the old small resolutions [12:41]
bcallahkbw: lua(4) is for idiots who don't know C to write device drivers
think about how dumb that is
[12:41]
jrickand people who like array indexes starting at 1 [12:42]
kbwC is for idiots who don't know how to write in bare assembly [12:42]
dxtrC is for idiots who don't know how to write device drivers in lua [12:42]
kbwAssembly is for idiots who don't know how to write bytecode for their processor in a hex editor [12:42]
jrickany C programmer worth their salt can look at some C code and immediately know how it will be translated to asm [12:42]
Neithe kernel still isnt rewritten in lua? [12:42]
kbwSame logic [12:43]
SirSkidmoreLua was one of the first things I learned
had to script all the MUDs
[12:43]
kbwbcallah: lua might be a kind of HAL for UNIX
In NetBSD's case
[12:43]
joreyHAL9000? :) [12:43]
kbwI hate to use Windows terminology but that's what I think it might be for
hardware abstraction layer
[12:43]
SirSkidmorekbw: jorey was referencing 2001 [12:44]
kbwAnd yes, building on bcallah's point, different resolutions with an LCD look ass backwards [12:44]
dxtrA faggot with a tiny dick just drove by [12:46]
SirSkidmoreumm [12:46]
dxtrhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gX1q-HqxQA [12:46]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "To All Bikers - Don't Be a Fag" by Greatest Parody (1m 50s), 9,856 views, 26 likes and 2 dislikes. Uploaded 2013-10-03T05:28:25.000Z. [12:47]
dxtrGoddammit I hate 'em [12:47]
joreySirSkidmore: open the pod bay door [12:47]
dxtrSirSkidmore: That kind of faggot [12:48]
SirSkidmorejorey: o/
dxtr: ah
[12:48]
joreySirSkidmore: do you know what hal might mean?) [12:48]
dxtrI laugh everytime I see a motorbike accident [12:48]
elalothats not very swedish of you [12:49]
SirSkidmoreHeuristically programmed Algorithmic comp! [12:49]
joreySirSkidmore: :p
SirSkidmore: use a caesar cipher of 1 on it
[12:49]
dxtrelalo: Well I don't wanna pay tax money for repairing people who choose to drive inherently dangerous vehicles that makes way too much sound [12:50]
SirSkidmorejorey: IBM? [12:51]
joreyya [12:51]
SirSkidmoreOHHH
neat
[12:51]
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joreymight just be a coincidence, but i like to think that was on purpose. [12:51]
SirSkidmoreyeah because the actual abbreviation is a huge stretch
Hmm These uni-ball Vision Elites in blue black might get added to my daily rotation
these are really nice
[12:52]
zod000qbit: your new hipster mechanical keyboard idence, but i like to think that was on purpose.
wtf
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/954250822/the-qwerkywriter-typewriter-inspired-mechanical-ke

there we go
[12:55]
qbitscumbag dxtr always raggin on 'Merica about how how shitty it is because it doesn't have Commie Sveeden's stuff... says shit like this: 13:49 + dxtr │ elalo: Well I don't wanna pay tax money for repairing people who choose to drive inherently dangerous vehicles that makes way too much sound [12:55]
dxtrWhat's the most appropriate way to ruin the engine of a motorcycle? [12:56]
qbitzod000: nice
:D
[12:56]
snkdxtr: water in the gas tank?
i don't know much about motorcycles though... or engines in general, really :)
[12:57]
dxtrqbit: This is different! Motorcycles annoy everyone within a 4km radius [12:57]
SirSkidmoreqbit: and that's not very communist! [12:57]
trafficonezod000: that seems oddly appealing [12:58]
SirSkidmorebecause you're being a jerk [12:58]
dxtrI'd be cool with it if they were, like, tesla motorcycles
A silent "bzzzzzzz" instead of "WUB WUB WUBW UWBWUB WUBWUBWWUBWUBWUBWWUBWUBWUB"
[12:58]
kbwSugar in the gas tank [12:58]
dxtrkbw: Wat? Sugar? [12:58]
kbwIt carmalizes and hardens [12:58]
elaloqbit++ [12:58]
SirSkidmoredxtr: so basically sweden has dubstep motorcycles? [12:59]
kbwYou guys don't know that sugar fucks up cars/motorcycles? [12:59]
elalokbw speaks truth [12:59]
kbwI thought everyone knew [12:59]
joreydxtr: sugar is very well known for destroying engines. i don't know whether it actually works, but it's far from unheard of [12:59]
elaloit...works.
<.<
[12:59]
dxtrkbw: Well, I see one problem with it: Motorcycles nowadays have locks for the gas tanks [12:59]
joreybut hint: you may die if the owner catches you doing that :) [12:59]
kbwjorey: it does, it carmalizes when in the engine and hardens, completely ruining the functionality, grinding it to a halt [12:59]
dxtrjorey: Worth it [12:59]
kbwDoesn't sweden have some serious immigration [13:00]
SirSkidmorealso, zod000, they're only like one keyboard away from making it [13:00]
dxtrkbw: lol. My old school is on the news related to immigration :P
like, literally right now
kbw: Also, what's with our out of control immigration?
[13:00]
kbwdxtr: dunno, I always hear about it on /int/ [13:01]
snkdxtr: jorey looks like sugar causes the gasoline to congeal a bit, and clogs up the fuel lines, and is a huge pain in the ass :) [13:01]
dxtrkbw: Yes, it's out of control [13:01]
jrick$ ls -i /usr/bin/{less,more}
52255 /usr/bin/less* 52255 /usr/bin/more*
orly
[13:02]
dxtrAnd yes, no ones dares do anything about it because it's not the politically correct thing to do [13:02]
snk(lots of) water also looks like it causes big issues too [13:02]
kbwdxtr: move to funland if you don't like it [13:02]
snkaccording to google [13:02]
kbwdxtr: ot norway/denmark
*or
[13:02]
dxtrkbw: And the one party who wants to do something about it is "racist"
kbw: As far as I know they're heading our way :P
[13:02]
kbwdxtr: I heard that everything is racist/sexist in sweden [13:02]
dxtrBecause it's the politically correct thing to do
kbw: That is true
[13:03]
kbwI read anout a guy who was arrested for big muscles [13:03]
elalohorse shit. [13:03]
dxtrYou don't like pizza? You're a sexist racist^Wnazi^Wfascist with patriarchal ideals [13:04]
qbit^ Commie [13:04]
kbwMass immigration is very likely to cause nazism [13:04]
joreyyou like pizza? you're a sexist racist......... [13:04]
dxtrjorey: exactly [13:04]
kbwelalo: http://www.thelocal.se/20140423/swedish-police-cant-drugs-test-muscular-men
Muscular men == drug dealers in sweden apparently
[13:04]
joreythelocal. [13:05]
dxtrkbw: How was this related to political correctness? [13:05]
kbwNothing [13:05]
dxtrkbw: And how was it bad that the JO ruled that big muscles doesn't equal drug use? [13:05]
kbwdxtr: dunno
I heard that a lot of europe is facing immigration from the middle east and africa
[13:06]
dxtrkbw: We're taking the most immigrants per capita
We're taking in so many immigrants that the municipalities are like "Uuuh... We can't take any more"
[13:07]
kbwWhat's the point in it [13:08]
dxtrAnd people are like "THAT'S SO RACIST^WNAZI^WFASCIST!" [13:08]
kbwI know people come from some very fucked up countries but really [13:08]
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dxtrhaha [13:09]
kbwYou made me press control w
I see I was tricked
Bloody swedes
[13:09]
dxtrkbw: Nevermind the fact that we have a housing shortage
And because the EU we have gypsies coming here, sitting in every street corner begging
It's good that we get value for our EU membership fees
[13:09]
kbwIt's better than partnering with russia, no? [13:10]
dbtidthat's horrible coming from a socialist
fucking hypocrite
[13:10]
dxtrdbtid: I've never been pro-EU [13:10]
dbtidbut you won't help those people? [13:10]
dxtrFuck no. They're romanias problem [13:11]
kbwFeudalism is the best [13:11]
kusuriyaI dont want to live in this country any more. As expected the supreme court ruled in favor of hobby lobby and have effectivly decided that corps are people and have the freedom of religion [13:11]
dbtiddbtid flushes dxtr [13:11]
kbwkusuriya: merica? [13:11]
kusuriyayep murrica [13:11]
dxtrkusuriya: I have a space left on my couch
s/a /some /
[13:11]
BryceBot<dxtr> kusuriya: I have some space left on my couch [13:11]
kusuriyadxtr: for 2 people and 2 dogs? [13:11]
dxtrkusuriya: I have to admit that I'm not best friends with dogs but I accept them
The girlfriend likes dogs
[13:12]
kbwkusuriya: in the future job applications will be able to legally single out people with particular religions [13:12]
dxtrkusuriya: And Castor likes dogs [13:12]
kusuriyaalso your wife and my wife and everyone involved needs to marry eachother to speed up citizienship [13:12]
kbwaka in my state atheists won't be able to get jobs outside atlanta [13:12]
kusuriyakbw: not yet [13:12]
dxtrkusuriya: So who marries the dogs? [13:12]
kbwDamn southerners
Fuck em
They don't deserve the commute here
[13:12]
kusuriyabut now your employer based on their religon can refuse you coverage under their health plan [13:13]
dxtrkusuriya: haha [13:13]
kusuriyaso if your boss happens to be a jahova witness he doesnt have to offer you health insurance any more [13:13]
kbwI think our state is intentionally making our highway system fucked up so they can just give up and move elsewhere [13:13]
dxtr"You a homo and god hates fags so no health care for you"? [13:13]
kyls/aho/eho/ [13:13]
BryceBot<kusuriya> so if your boss happens to be a jehova witness he doesnt have to offer you health insurance any more [13:13]
kusuriyasince medical care is against the belif of the jahovas witnesses [13:13]
kyls/lif/lief/ [13:14]
BryceBot<kusuriya> since medical care is against the belief of the jahovas witnesses [13:14]
kyls/lif/lief/ | s/jah/jeh/ [13:14]
BryceBot<kusuriya> since medical care is against the belief of the jehovas witnesses [13:14]
kbwOne of my friends was a jehovah's witness [13:14]
kyl*was* [13:14]
dxtrI've had a jehova friend too [13:14]
kbwHe never tried to convert me or any shit though [13:14]
dxtrHe was weird [13:14]
kbwkyl: as in I don't know him anymore [13:14]
elalokbw: you miss the point. it was shown to be illegal. he wasn't arrested. not for any interesting period of time, anyway. [13:14]
kbwHe probably still is one [13:14]
kusuriyabut yeah thanks for ruining things southern states [13:14]
Leftys/southern// [13:15]
BryceBot<kusuriya> but yeah thanks for ruining things states [13:15]
kbwkusuriya: Georgia here [13:15]
Leftythe US ruins fucking EVERYTHING [13:15]
elaloelalo pats himself on the back for that. [13:15]
dbtidkusuriya: this country was founded on concepts of religious freedom that the gov't can't override. [13:15]
kbwkusuriya: my city is liberal but everything bordering it is conservative [13:15]
dbtidthe system worked [13:15]
dxtrkusuriya: Our cats are used to dogs too [13:15]
kusuriyadbtid: corperations are not people
say it with me :P
[13:15]
dbtidthey are legal people, indeed. but it's messed up [13:15]
kbwThe real meaning of being american has been skewed over to being extremely religious and conservative, which is wrong wrong wrong [13:16]
LeftyI never did understand the "corporations are people" thing [13:16]
dxtrCan corporations have kundishuns? [13:16]
kusuriyathey may abuse a loophole in a law to pretend to be people
but they are not actually people
[13:16]
kbwAmerica was founded on the values of the freemasons, with a few nuts also signing the constitution [13:16]
LeftyI get what it is, I just can't wrap my head around the brokenness that brings it around [13:17]
kusuriyathe first corp I see get physically arrested and put in jail for violating the law will make me change my position [13:17]
elalokbw: SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.giflike.com/JpTQAWq.gif&v=nJ-bIeJ4zOY&s=5 [13:17]
kusuriyaI undersand they are legal people and thats how the law is [13:17]
dxtrkusuriya: To be honest I think corporations are people here too. [13:17]
kusuriyabut its bullshit [13:17]
kbwelalo: I'm not going to wait for that to load [13:17]
dxtrYeah, "legal people" [13:17]
elaloyou do that. you do that and then you shut your pie hole. [13:17]
dbtidkbw: the usa was founded on the core principles of a small gov't and religious freedom: the gov't can't tell you to do something the violates your religious beliefs. [13:17]
kusuriyadxtr: they are in large parts of the western world but sweden actually holds them accountable [13:17]
elalowith your commie internet speed. [13:17]
kusuriyahere in the US you can literally hide behind your corp
to prevent incarceration
[13:18]
dbtidkusuriya: no, you cn'at anymore.
*can't
[13:18]
elalooh wait dxr is the commie not kbw. [13:18]
kusuriyadbtid: funny because its still happening [13:18]
dxtrkusuriya: Legal people even have their own personal identity number [13:18]
joreyonly if the corp is big enough and you've got enough power [13:18]
dbtidlook at the guy who ran enron. enron's not in jail, he is. [13:18]
dxtrBut it's called organisation number [13:18]
kusuriyaI have yet to see a single fannie mae Exec go to jail for the fraud they commited [13:18]
kbwdbtid: if my religious beliefs involve women covering their entire faces, they can't stop that? [13:19]
dbtidfannie mae is a GOVERNMENT corporation [13:19]
kusuriyathe guy who ran enron went to jail because he personally did somthing wrong [13:19]
dbtidof course nothing will heppen to them [13:19]
kbwdbtid: what if a woman had a court order and skipped it, and someone else attended [13:19]
kusuriyafannie mae was not always one [13:19]
elaloin the U.S. you are forced to tolerate an executive who refuses to shake a woman's hand due to religious belief. [13:19]
kusuriyaor goldman sachs [13:19]
elalowhich is fucking horse shit. [13:19]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore is out of this convo [13:19]
kusuriyawho we can prove their CEOs commited fraud [13:19]
dxtrkusuriya: If I remember correctly we have the "legal person" thing EXACTLY so we can hold someone accountable :P [13:19]
joreylet's have another example that's currently in the news: blackwater [13:19]
elaloelalo goes back to reading Absolute OpenBSD [13:19]
dbtidelalo: i have that book [13:20]
joreyelalo: 1 or 2? [13:20]
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kbwBah [13:20]
elalo2. Purchased from the OpenBSD foundation because I'm a good person. [13:20]
dxtrBut it was a while I studied business
Like.. Five years ago
[13:20]
kbwI was never interested in networking or servers [13:20]
kusuriyaelalo: for an individual I would understand, wouldnt do business with him ever again but would understand [13:20]
elaloOr no..not the OpenBSD foundation. The OpenBSD store. [13:20]
kbwI believe UNIX is more fun when used on workstations and time sharing systems [13:20]
kusuriyafor a whole company no [13:20]
dbtidwell, personally i hope the whole ACA blows up and we'll be done with it. since it was determined to be a tax and the bill originated in the senate (so i've heard) it could fail on those grounds. here's hoping. [13:21]
kbwGuys I think I know what to do for a career [13:21]
joreyelalo: to be fair, forcing someone to shake hands would be horse shit as well [13:21]
elalokusuriya: huh? [13:21]
kbwMove to colorado and sell pot [13:21]
kusuriyadbtid: that was already shot down in flames by the supreme court [13:21]
kbwEasiest job out there [13:21]
elalojorey: Agreed! But not allowing a company to say 'this is horse shit you're fired mr. executive' is super super horse shit. [13:21]
joreyit's not /that/ easy if done well [13:21]
SirSkidmorebrycec: trafficone: anyone else who bought space engineers: do you guys want to play tonight? [13:21]
kusuriyait was compared to some other legal things the government has done in the past [13:21]
SirSkidmorekbw: I think you're probably wrong [13:22]
kbwSirSkidmore: I was trolling in a way [13:22]
elalokbw: stop that. [13:22]
kbwSirSkidmore: growing is a really hard job, and since it's all done in cash the accounting is a nightmare [13:22]
kusuriyaThe house republicans have tried now 50 times to overturn the ACA in any way they could including suing over it and they have all failed so that is here to stay [13:22]
kbwPlus the threat of burglary is incredibly high [13:22]
kusuriyafor better or worse :( [13:22]
dxtrjorey: Btw, is Blackwater in the news again? [13:23]
kbwelalo: stop what [13:23]
elalostop trolling. [13:23]
joreydxtr: yes. someone blew the whistle they apparently threatened to assassinate people investigating their behaviour when they were "deployed" in iraq [13:24]
dxtrkusuriya: ACA? [13:24]
joreys/people/someone/ [13:24]
BryceBot<jorey> dxtr: yes. someone blew the whistle they apparently threatened to assassinate someone investigating their behaviour when they were "deployed" in iraq [13:24]
elaloAbsolute OpenBSD is one of the finer technical books I've read. [13:24]
joreyi.e. someone from the u.s.
and the embassy apparently sided with blackwater, rather than the state department investigators
[13:24]
dxtrjorey: murrica! [13:24]
kusuriyadxtr: Affordable Care Act, its our first step to universal health care
not a great first step
its actually terribly lousy
but its a step
[13:24]
kbwFree healthcare provided by government [13:25]
kusuriyaits not even that [13:25]
kbwI'm kidding [13:25]
kusuriyai wish it was :P [13:25]
kbwSocialized medicine really sucks [13:25]
dbtidLord please save us from universal healthcare. [13:25]
dxtrLord :D [13:25]
kusuriyayes lets save ourselves from shorter wait times at emergency rooms because people can afford to get preventive healthcare
that sounds like a GREAT idea
[13:25]
kbwHealthcare companies are all crooks [13:25]
dxtr"Dear God. Today was a bad day for capitalism and christianity" [13:25]
kbwPharma too
Our government are crooks too
Laws are bought these days
[13:25]
dxtrkusuriya: but.. but.. taxes! [13:26]
Leftys/e/i/ [13:26]
BryceBot<dxtr> kusuriya: but.. but.. taxis! [13:26]
dxtrTaxes are bad, mkay?= [13:26]
kusuriyas/taxes/communism/ [13:26]
BryceBot<dxtr> kusuriya: but.. but.. communism! [13:26]
kbwSenators are nothing but lousy businessmen trying to get reelected. [13:26]
dxtrYes. Taxes = communism [13:27]
kbwLook at their commercials. [13:27]
dbtidin my small town we don't have that problem
the problem is in big cities
i think we should just wall up the big cities and be done with them
let the rats and fleas have them all
[13:27]
kusuriyadbtid: your small town would have a problem with it should you do something that requires emergency care that is beyond the scope of your local doctor
which is possible
[13:27]
elalobigger waste of time: arguing politics or ranting about linux systemd??? [13:28]
kusuriyasystemD [13:28]
kbwHere in Georgia they're only trying to appear to be the most conservative and Republican. There is no "I'm going to do whatever is best for my country", it's "I'm going to do whatever my voters think is best, which is vote no for everything Democrat" [13:28]
xptelalo: linux [13:28]
joreykusuriya: i don't know a lot about your wait times in the u.s., but i can tell you wait times are pretty high in germany as well and we have practically universal healthcare, unless it's actually an emergency (read: urgent). [13:28]
dbtidproposed: the real problem with the United States today is large cities filled with people too stupid to take care of themselves. [13:28]
dxtrkbw: Georgia to me is "Honey Boo Boo" [13:28]
joreykusuriya: that's not to criticize universal healthcare, it's a great thing. just saying, wait times may not be affected by that [13:29]
kbwdbtid: right, walling up civilization is best. [13:29]
dxtrkbw: That's about as much as I know about Georgia :P [13:29]
kusuriyajorey: emergency room times actually are [13:29]
kbwkbw lives in a big city and would love to be walled up from the idiots outside [13:29]
xpts/wall/facebook/ [13:29]
BryceBot>>> kbw lives in a big city and would love to be facebooked up from the idiots outside [13:29]
kbwdxtr: that pig-human comes from my state? [13:29]
kusuriyajorey: every study shown so far of every country that has had a universal health care system shows emergency room visits go down and preventitive care goes up [13:29]
SirSkidmorekbw: you remind me a lot of how I acted like 5 years ago [13:29]
kusuriyawhat you have to fix moves further up the chain which is hypocondriacs abusing the system [13:30]
dxtrkbw: I regret to have to say Yes [13:30]
kusuriyaas far as people are concerned [13:30]
kbwdxtr: if so, it's a very accurate description of the inbred suburban idiots bordering atlanta [13:30]
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kusuriyathen there are other fraud things that move up the pipe too but they still happen nomatter what system you choose [13:30]
kbwSirSkidmore: ok? [13:30]
dxtrkbw: Alright. [13:30]
SirSkidmorekbw: just saying [13:30]
dxtrI was hoping you'd prove me wrong :P [13:30]
joreykusuriya: ah, you mean as in "they don't have 132411243 patients waiting in the emergency room because they didn't go to the doc when they should have because they couldn't've afforded it", got it. misunderstood you, i guess. [13:31]
kusuriyayep [13:31]
SirSkidmorealso, I'm from the boonies of Kentucky... so I would say the people around Atlanta are much better :P
my hometown still doesn't really have ISP options
[13:31]
kbwWe should place a ban on pickup trucks and stop broadcasting fox news so all the subhumans can leave and migrate to alabama or some other shitty state, where they rightfully belong [13:31]
SirSkidmorebasically, dialup, or outrageously expensive satelite stuf [13:31]
kusuriyajorey: you also have less deaths because people go and see about that cut before the whole leg goes gang greene [13:31]
dxtrgangrene* [13:32]
SirSkidmorekbw: yeah. You're basically 14 year old me. [13:32]
dbtidkbw: speaking for those of us outside, we'd be happy if you walled yourself in.
you wouldn't last too long without the farms.
[13:32]
joreyemergency rooms can still have long wait times regardless, if it's not terribly urgent. i know i've waited 5h on an x-ray before [13:32]
snk@ronswanson [13:32]
BryceBotRon Swanson says: What's a not-gay way to ask him to go camping with me? [13:32]
dbtidbut the farms would last plenty long w/o the cities [13:32]
kusuriyaand cronic conditions get treated more often and more consistently driving costs down over the whole system
etc
[13:32]
kbwdbtid: the farms aren't the problem
dbtid: it's the people in the far north georgia
[13:32]
dxtrkusuriya: I'll take you to an emergency room here and we'll see how that goes :p [13:32]
kbwdbtid: the rural areas/far south places are okay [13:33]
SirSkidmorekbw: the people who live in the middle of a town and have huge lifted pick up trucks with confederate flags flying? [13:33]
joreykusuriya: yep, i know. good healthcare is a terribly important thing in my opinion. our system is far from perfect, but it's 12341193241 times better than what i've seen from the u.s. [13:33]
kusuriyadxtr: will I be waiting for 12 hours to get my near detached thumb to get reattached?
that is still bleeding
[13:33]
kbwSirSkidmore: yes. [13:33]
brycecFYI for all you freeloading cheapskates, if this hasn't already been linked https://www.windowsondevices.com/ [13:33]
dxtrkusuriya: well, it isn't exactly a FIFO process. [13:33]
joreyit's a priority queue [13:33]
SirSkidmorekbw: because we have those in the very north bits of Indiana too :P [13:33]
kusuriyadxtr: neither is the USes [13:33]
kbwThe south of Georgia isn't necessarily bad, it's just poor and low income. [13:34]
SirSkidmorebrycec: neat, thanks [13:34]
kusuriyabut all of the hospitals around me have a 4 - 12 hour average wait time [13:34]
brycec(t'was on Lobste.rs this morning) [13:34]
kbwSirSkidmore: every time I see those people in northern states I give all my why [13:34]
brycec(https://lobste.rs/s/8r6cd5/windows_on_devices_-_get_your_free_intel_galileo_board) [13:34]
kbwSirSkidmore: I saw them in west virginia, and west virginia is the very reason there are two virginias after the civil war! [13:34]
dxtrkusuriya: As jorey said, it's a priority queue. Life threatening stuff > severe stuff that might turn life threatening > severe stuff that won't turn life threatening > etc [13:35]
kbwPerhaps they're regular virginia overflow [13:35]
kusuriyajorey: the US is in a great position right now though in that every single other western nation has done universal healthcare systems so we know what does and does not work and we can make a system cherry picking the best
our poloticians just refuse to
[13:35]
joreykusuriya: about time. [13:35]
SirSkidmorebrycec: query real quick? [13:35]
Leftyyour politicians just don't want anyone to have anything nice [13:35]
dxtrkusuriya: I once waited I-don't-know-how-many-hours (6?) to have one of my toes put back in place [13:35]
LeftyTHIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS [13:35]
snkLefty: i think they do want nice stuff, but not more than the money they are getting from lobbyists to prevent the nice stuff [13:36]
joreykusuriya: it's largely because people don't understand it and are afraid of "this new healthcare thing" and are comfortable as long as they arne't in a case where they would've needed good healthcare and politicians don't want to lose votes. from my understanding, anyways. [13:36]
kbwI want to make some apple pie right now D: [13:36]
kusuriyadxtr: I lost the tip of my thumb between the kunckles and it was still spurting blood [13:36]
kbwLet [13:36]
kusuriyaI waited 12 hours to just be seen [13:36]
joreykusuriya: sucks [13:36]
kbwLet's change the topic, I'm done talking about politics [13:36]
kusuriyaanother 5 to get it reattached [13:36]
kbwSo what's up with the whole hipster subculture we have now [13:37]
snknew topic: Ruby, and why it's awesome [13:37]
kbwAnd when will it die? [13:37]
snk;) [13:37]
kusuriyamost the people in the queue were there for something simple that their primary care doc should have seen them for if they could afford it, a lot where there because they waited too long :P
but yeah
just frustrated
so how about GO ruining the industry
[13:37]
snkkusuriya: yeah, I waited hours in the emergency room with a broken collar bone while people with head colds were seen before me [13:38]
dxtrkusuriya: I think that'd be considered life threatening [13:38]
dbtidthey can't set a collar bone anyway :) [13:38]
dxtrRule of thumb (Ha ha ha..) is that if you're missing a limb you'll be taken care of rather quickly :P [13:38]
snki wanted to throw the "ice bag" the nurse gave me at them and tell them to see their PCP [13:38]
dxtrsnk: PCP is some good shit [13:39]
joreydxtr: or really have any major injury or possibility thereof [13:39]
kusuriyayeah all the nurse did for me was ice my thumb till it stopped bleeding and told me to wait [13:39]
snkdbtid: yeah... but I needed an x-ray to see that it was actually broken, and some pain killers
:D
[13:39]
dxtrkusuriya: But if you're coming in with a bruise you're gonna have a really bad time
I suspect they're silently punishing people who come in to the emergency room for crap
[13:39]
joreyunless that bruise is related to internal bleeding
*likely
[13:39]
dxtrjorey: My rule of thumb is that as long as I don't draw blood it's cool. If I draw blood I'm already floored because I pass out when I see blood [13:40]
joreyhaha [13:40]
kusuriyadxtr: some waits are understandable at the ER
the waits in the us are excessive
mostly because people really cant afford to see a PCP when a condition was not emergent
[13:40]
dxtrkusuriya: I'm not at the ER often enough to say anything educated about it. I guess part of it is related to that we're getting kinda spoiled
People can't afford PCP? Sucks :/
[13:41]
kusuriyaconsistently [13:42]
dxtrPCP, if anything, should be tax paid [13:42]
kusuriyabut just know the US as an industrialized nation is in great company with places like Oman for offering health care [13:43]
SirSkidmoreOh wow. It's already almost 5 [13:43]
dxtrWe're not talking about the same PCP, are we? [13:43]
SirSkidmoretoday really went by quickly [13:43]
dxtrSirSkidmore: More like almost 23 [13:43]
kusuriyayes and no [13:43]
xptSirSkidmore: it's 10:43 pm [13:43]
qbitbcallah, lteo_, juanfra, afresh1 any of you getting hangs on amd64? [13:43]
elalo@wiki pcp [13:43]
dxtrxpt: 10:43 penis monster [13:43]
BryceBotPCP :: PCP may refer to: In medicine and pharmaceutics: Phencyclidine, a recreational dissociative drug Primary care physician, a doctor who acts as first point of consultation for patients Primary care paramedic, the entry-level of paramedic practice in Canada Pneumocystis pneumonia, a form of pneumonia caused by the yeast-like fungus Post-coital pill, a form of emergency... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCP [13:43]
xptdxtr: more like post meridiem [13:44]
dxtrOr pussy mangler?
I told the girlfriend that I'm the pussy mangler during sexual intercourse once
She wasn't as turned on by it as I expected
[13:44]
SirSkidmoredxtr: lol [13:45]
xpts/gi/ex-gi/ [13:45]
BryceBot<dxtr> I told the ex-girlfriend that I'm the pussy mangler during sexual intercourse once [13:45]
SirSkidmorexpt++ [13:45]
kusuriya:D [13:46]
kbwI feel dirty writing a VM in a VM like Java [13:46]
dxtrOnce I talked like "Johnny" from The Room
She didn't like that either
But you never know until you try
[13:46]
mcchunkieTWSS! [13:46]
juanfraqbit: no, everything works fine. [13:47]
dxtrHave you guy seen The Room? [13:47]
SirSkidmoredxtr: no
@imdb the room
[13:47]
BryceBot[MOVIE] Title: The Room | Year: 2003 | Rating: 3.5 | Genre: Drama | IMDB Link: http://imdb.com/title/tt0368226 [13:47]
afresh1qbit: haven't gotten any recently, but my snapshot is from a month ago [13:47]
dxtrIt's the worst piece of shit I've ever seen. 10/10 wouldn't watch again
Would highly recommend
It's so bad it's good
[13:47]
qbitk [13:48]
SirSkidmoreqbit: I wasn't at all yesterday [13:48]
qbitSirSkidmore: you running the lastest snaps? [13:49]
SirSkidmoreqbit: as of yesterday
I think so
unless I missed something last night
[13:50]
qbitk
nice
[13:50]
SirSkidmoreno
I'm one snap behind
[13:50]
qbitmy box has locked up like 3 times today [13:50]
SirSkidmoreqbit: I'll update when I get home and let you know [13:51]
qbitsweet [13:54]
SirSkidmorehave to finish typing up my blog post to keep bcallah happy anyway :P [13:55]
bcallaho/ [13:56]
SirSkidmorebcallah: o/ [13:57]
bcallahSirSkidmore: o [13:57]
SirSkidmoreit's about just config files for emacs and stump
alright
I'm heading home
bye guys
[13:57]
pirokoIf you took the greatest filmmakers in history and gave them all the task of purposefully creating a film as spectacularly horrible as this not one of them, with all their knowledge and skill, could make anything that could even be considered as a contender. [13:59]
kbwI know a kid who watches shitty movies for fun
I simply can't, I don't like cringing
[13:59]
dxtrpiroko: :D [14:01]
pirokothis movie sounds great [14:03]
qbityou are tearing me apart lisa!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPCG-NcfCr0
[14:03]
BryceBotYouTube Music: "The Room Dubstep Remix - MiCrowJupiter (Original)" by MicroJupiterUK (2m 51s), 153,756 views, 2,011 likes and 17 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-05-26T14:33:22.000Z. [14:03]
dxtr"I love Johnny!" - "I don't love Johnny anymore!" - "I love Mark!" [14:03]
joreyspeaking of which: calamari wrestler. youtube that. [14:04]
dxtrqbit: Thats the girlfriends ringtone
The best part of that movie is when Lisas mom casually states that she has cancer
[14:04]
qbitqbit reflects on the goldendays of dubstep [14:05]
dxtrAnd that was the end of that [14:05]
qbitlol
nice dxtr
[14:05]
dxtrNever again is it brought up or even mentioned
piroko, qbit, kbw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ4KzClb1C4
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BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "The Room - Roof Scene : "Oh Hi Mark"" by Xing500 (1m 58s), 3,756,282 views, 12,245 likes and 358 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-04-13T04:17:32.000Z. [14:07]
qbitaye [14:07]
xptdxtr: you mean the room as in (tv series) the room which is a tv series of room 23 with all those 'artifacts' that can alter the world? [14:07]
qbiti have even played the "The Room" video game [14:07]
dxtrxpt: No, I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ4KzClb1C4 [14:07]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "The Room - Roof Scene : "Oh Hi Mark"" by Xing500 (1m 58s), 3,756,282 views, 12,245 likes and 358 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-04-13T04:17:32.000Z. [14:07]
dxtrhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9Ew3TIeVQ [14:08]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "The Room - The Flower Shop Scene" by DVDont (19s), 2,291,619 views, 7,668 likes and 139 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-06-13T09:37:24.000Z. [14:08]
dxtrdat audio work [14:08]
pirokowow
this is.......... horrible
[14:08]
qbitsuperbad [14:08]
dxtrhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpfPmvG6CHI [14:08]
BryceBotYouTube Music: "The Room - Lisa Already Ordered a Pizza" by Mitchel Hunt (1m 33s), 475,292 views, 1,276 likes and 30 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-08-05T00:10:06.000Z. [14:08]
pirokoROFL
NO FORGET IT I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER
"well whatever"
oh my god I have to see this now
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dxtr"Ha ha ha ha! What a story, Mark!" [14:09]
pirokothat flower scene i'm dying [14:10]
dxtrHaha [14:10]
qbit:D [14:12]
pirokodxtr: you don't know someone with the last name nihiser do you?
I showed that vid to a coworker and he said he was just talking to a friend about that movie over the weekend
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dxtrpiroko: No I don't [14:13]
pirokoer wait I'm thinking of dtbibdibdd
you live in sweden lol
[14:13]
dxtrNot that I know of at least :P
haha
fail
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pirokomajor fail [14:14]
dxtrHow is Nihiser even pronounced?
All I can squeeze out is "Neeheeser"
Because that's how it'd be pronounced in sweden :P
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pirokonai-haiser [14:15]
dxtrpiroko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOEESGYyiv0 [14:15]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "Wise words in Tommy Wiseau's 'The Room'" by RickYune (16s), 485,585 views, 1,393 likes and 20 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-07-29T20:17:15.000Z. [14:15]
dxtrhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if5eP3crl_4 [14:17]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "The Room - Tommy Wiseau quotes" by Jalgmees (6m 23s), 954,559 views, 6,081 likes and 90 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-04-04T20:17:31.000Z. [14:17]
dxtrpiroko: Birdemic is also gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEokEOezF7o
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BryceBotYouTube Film: "Birdemic - Best scenes from the worst film ever made" by TehgYuFufe (13m 57s), 126,434 views, 672 likes and 61 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-08-10T22:44:02.000Z. [14:19]
elaloThis video is not available in your country.
fucking freedom-haters.
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qbitmerika! fuck yea! [14:20]
dxtrhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3j_iL2FcXQ [14:21]
BryceBotYouTube Film: "Everything Wrong With Birdemic: Shock & Terror" by CinemaSins (20m 16s), 1,013,224 views, 22,436 likes and 350 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-04-08T14:21:50.000Z. [14:21]
dxtrqbit, piroko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxZblVUkMU [14:25]
BryceBotYouTube News: "Birdemic-The most epic scene ever filmed" by Skac01 (59s), 390,544 views, 2,244 likes and 319 dislikes. Uploaded 2010-04-11T16:13:02.000Z. [14:25]
dxtrThat scene is just.. So awesome [14:26]
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