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al3hex has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) SirSkidmore: ampharos: I think someone does
I just can't remember who ampharos: i have an N900, nice thing
openbsd support would be god tier
i know winocm ported darwin to it but she did nothing else with that SirSkidmore: ampharos: I think kyl might have it? dbtid: greetings SirSkidmore: hey dbtid dbtid: hi SirSkidmore jorey: ehlo dbtid
and SirSkidmore. and everyone else. dbtid: hi jorey SirSkidmore: at least it's friday dbtid: at least jrick: mernin dbtid: hi jrick
how are you this FINE friday morning? jrick: I am FINE dbtid: FINE
BE THAT WAY THEN jrick: I WILL dbtid: FINE jrick: GOOD DAY SIR dbtid: RIGHT
http://bash.org/?23396 BryceBot: Bash.org: "Quote #23396" dbtid: http://bash.org/?5273 BryceBot: Bash.org: "Quote #5273" dbtid: too bad bash.org seems to have died Nei: died? SirSkidmore: haha dbtid that second one was one of my favorites dbtid: SirSkidmore: it's been one of my favorites, too, for a long time. SirSkidmore: I read like the top 200 at one time jorey: only? dbtid: i've done that before: put a machine under a bunch of stuff and then forgot about it. jrick: Nei: no no, it's, uh, resting jorey: SirSkidmore: http://bash.org/?random1 now. dbtid: could only find it by hunting down the ehternet cable.
*ethernet jorey: SirSkidmore: and keep refreshing. dbtid: jorey: only what? jorey: "only the top 200?" dbtid: and yes, it's dead: there haven't been any new posts in a looooooooong time.
and it makes me sad -: dbtid sads jorey: yeah, that's a pity
well, there were a very few new posts a few years ago, 2-3 i think
but there were a few quiet years before that and ever since SirSkidmore: jorey: well I mean there are 4400 quotes pending dbtid: 4345
not enough to round up to 4400
SirSkidmore: do we need to send you back to 4th grade math??? SirSkidmore: oops
totally saw that as 4845 ***: it has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) jrick: bash.org is probably pining for the fjords dbtid: http://bash.org/?287414
story of pete BryceBot: Bash.org: "Quote #287414" SirSkidmore: dbtid: yeah that's in the top 100 I think Nei: why doesnt BryceBot just read us the quote
mhm. might be too long I guess jorey: because some are *long* Nei: could show the first line tho jorey: to remind us who spent lots of time reading bash quotes of them without having to open the link?) Nei: :D SirSkidmore: http://bash.org/?44584
>.> BryceBot: Bash.org: "Quote #44584" SirSkidmore: would have been so much faster just to fix the typo >.> dbtid: don't get it. jrick: *whoosh* BryceBot: Bye jrick! dbtid: bye
back to work!! SirSkidmore: I think instead of fixing the typo he just added a footnote thing jorey: SirSkidmore: especially with BryceBot. jrick: it would be like me just typing something and then I tpyo[1] a word somewhere jorey: [1]typo jrick: thanks jorey: you're welcome. SirSkidmore: ugh
I put in a request to get a visual studio key at work on monday and after several followups have heard nothing back
so probably another day without doing much dbtid: whee! bcallah: SirSkidmore: no blog posts! jorey: i forgot whether you're in college or not. if you are, check whether you can get one via msdnaa
(if you terribly need it and you can't get one from your employer) SirSkidmore: jorey: they don't one using a student license for work stuff
bcallah: I thought I pushed them up last night?
hmm
weird bcallah: negative SirSkidmore: oh
my rsync must not have worked jorey: SirSkidmore: right. nevermind me, i derped. qbit: halla dbtid: qbit: o/
time for more coffee CyL: Okay folks, I'm seeking for some advice, I haven't played video games in like 15 to 20 years, but now I'm looking forward to buy something with motion sensor, mainly to have fun with GF and her kid. Any advice on platforms and/or games? zod000: Cyl: motion sensor ala WiiU, Kinect, etc? CyL: zod000: Yep, sorry I don't know how this accessories are actually called.
zod000: Something with 3D would also be nice, I guess. zod000: CyL: nearly all of them are tied to their respective platform. nintendo makes the Wii and WiiU, Microsoft makes the Kinect for xbox, and Sony makes the Move
I haven't seen a general purpose model for an open platform like PC that i would recommend yet CyL: zod000: Never heard of Move before, wasn't it playstation that Sony made? zod000: zentrified: the Move is Son'y Wii-like attachment
err CyL
sorry zentrified CyL: zod000: Okay I get it. zod000: CyL: I happen to have Wii and the Move, and I rarely use either
I personally do not care for them, I got the Wii for the family, and they never use it sadly CyL: zod000: What about the number of games, specially for younger players like my gf's daughter (5 y/o), and for playing with whole family dbtid: zod000: o/ zod000: I got the move because it was 90% off and came with two games and some machinegun like attachment. it was worth getting just to play House of the Dead with friends while drinking, but I haven't enjoyed it with much else
o CyL: zod000: I get it... zod000: CyL: the kinect is different, no controller, just a motion sensor
great for dance games, but as it lacks any sort of button, it is the most limited imp
imo
it does so a lot of voice activated stuff some people love CyL: zod000: Good to know about that. So the Move actually has a controller of some kind?
zod000: Unfortunatelly I believe that would be more for English... zod000: CyL: yes, the Move is a controller and camera combo
the controllers are bluetooth just like the ps3 controllers
it is ps3 only though CyL: Oh okay
zod000: Do you have kids? zod000: well, technically you could probably hack something for pc, but i know of only preliminary stuff
CyL: yes, three SirSkidmore: bcallah: fixed. CyL: zod000: Any of them in same same age range as mine? zod000: CyL: how old are yours?
CyL: mine are 1.5, 5, and 14 CyL: zod000: I don't have kids of my own. I was actually refering to my gf's daughter, since most of the time I'm the closest of a father she haves. She is 5.
zod000: So, at the age of 5, what's the hype besides Monster High? Specially in the electronic entertainment area (something that would gather the family together).
zod000: She is craving for a tablet, but everytime she has got one in her hands, it's like she's hipnotized or in some other universe. qbit: dbtid: o
how goes ? dbtid: CyL: be careful about that. we carefully regulate our kids' time on those things.
qbit: o/
dude!
i'm good. how are you? qbit: doing good
gettin tired of all these snakes on these mother fuckin planes dbtid: oh? zod000: CyL: my 5 year old doesn't like playing the motion games or console much, she loves her tablet though dbtid: did you pet snake collection get loose again? CyL: dbtid: Thanks for your adivce, we take a lot of care about it tough. I'm the only one in the house with a smartphone, and I won't give it to her. She only play those thing eventually.
zod000: The problem with tablets is that it splits the family, not gather it together. dbtid: same with smartphones CyL: dbtid: Yep. Any advice on this? zod000: CyL: well sure, and maybe your family differs a lot from mine, but finding an activity for the entire family (or nearly) to do and actually getting them all to do it is a rare occasion SirSkidmore: yeah... my 12 year old brother is constantly staring at a screen CyL: SirSkidmore: I'm constantly staring at screen as well. And also tmux... zod000: CyL: i have better luck with getting people to play a board game than anything else SirSkidmore: and even when his friends come over, they never do anything. They don't talk or play games. They're just browsing Vine/Twitter/Youtube and occasionally showing each other a video
it's awkward to be around zod000: SirSkidmore: sad
we have an anti-tablet/phone rule if my daughters friends are over SirSkidmore: zod000: yeah. I have 6 or 7 designer board games that after I convinced my friends to try are all hooked on. It's what we usually do zod000: she can do that when they aren't here, and they can do that at home SirSkidmore: between the 5 or 6 people in my freind group we probably have 20-30 games we rotate zod000: SirSkidmore: nice! SirSkidmore: zod000: yeah! zod000: the only game we regularly play is cards agaisnt humanity kusuriya: haha I had to read this signature twice, this indian support agent is calling himself Murrica SirSkidmore: uggggg
zod000: hate that zod000: my wife won't play most board games with me anymore CyL: zod000: We play them a lot. But she is very, very active, and I thought something that made her move and entertain would be nice. Unfortunatelly we don't have any neighbour kids, so she only have contact with kids while at school. zod000: SirSkidmore: we have a great time with it SirSkidmore: zod000: my friends never wanted to play Battlestar Galactice the board game, but then I convinced them to try it finally, and they all got hooked on board games
haha
zod000: it just gets stale quicky. CyL: zod000: Because she is competitive? zod000: SirSkidmore: well, we don't play it THAT often, and we have all the expansion packs and made our own cards
CyL: no, because she isn't and I am a lot better at them. SirSkidmore: hitler jokes always win for person a, black jokes always win for person b; "jerking off into a pool of childrent's tears: good to the last drop" is only funny so many times
zod000: we play Battlestar, Pandemic, Russian Railroads, and Louis and Clark a lot CyL: WTF, board games are a universe appart, never heard of these zod000: SirSkidmore: yeah my wife and her friends will never play those, and my friends might, but once we reach a certain beer level, it will fall apart SirSkidmore: CyL: yeah.. they're "designer" board games bcallah: SirSkidmore: CURL?!?!?
why would you use curl?
ftp works better and is in base -: zod000 curls some weights SirSkidmore: bcallah: Okay; will edit zod000: what's wrong with curl? bcallah: it's not in case
base CyL: http://www.justlia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/cara-a-cara001.jpg <-- that's what I usually play with her, she loves it bcallah: also, after you've used aria2 you'll never want to go back to curl CyL: http://isuba.s8.com.br/produtos/01/00/item/111703/7/111703711SZ.jpg <-- and that's the closets resemblant of a video game we ever play together zod000: bcallah: that is way heavier than what i need, I use curl to do what i could get done wit hwget, but a little better
CyL: i play arcade games with my daughter bcallah: zod000: torrent and magnet links zod000: like TMNT, golden axe, magic sword, battletoads, etc CyL: zod000: Arcade games, like the one with a little steel ball?
zod000: Oh, like those.. bcallah: zod000: I saw a 4-player 1CC of Ninja Baseball Batman the other day zod000: CyL: well i have one of these http://www.xgaming.com/store/arcade-joysticks-and-game-controllers/product/x-arcade-dual-joystick/ bcallah: was hilariously awesome jrick: so much fun seeing dev teams argue about coding style zod000: those games work well because i can do most of the actual work she she thinks she is doing well
heh bcallah: (also, technically you should cp /bsd.rd to /obsd.rd
) kyl: coding style is more important than the code itself bcallah: that way you can still boot off a ramdisk if you need CyL: zod000: Nice. SirSkidmore: bcallah: fixed zod000: that controller also does well for the "twin stick" games like smash tv CyL: zod000: It's really nice looking and sounds great, but I'm kind of reluctant of getting something that would put me on a chair or sofa zod000: CyL: i have it at a tall desk so it is the same height (more or less) as a real arcade machine SirSkidmore: bcallah: Did I miss anything for the setup? There was about 2 days between me installing and writing the post. zod000: i play on building an arcade cabinet to hold it
CyL: but yes, certainly not for everyone SirSkidmore: I thought I wrote most of it down so I wouldn't forget, but I feel like I missed something CyL: zod000, dbtid: thanks for you rnice advice folks, I'm still kind of learning how to deal with kids
Got to go, time for lunch. zod000: cya CyL bcallah: There's no way you could have installed msttcorefonts from packages (there is no package for it). SirSkidmore: oops
typo bcallah: and the reason to cp /bsd.rd /obsd.rd is in case something's wrong with /bsd.rd and for need the old ramdisk for something
i.e. download corruption SirSkidmore: I even put that there weren't any packages haha bcallah: but in practice, it's probably not necessary
just something I tend to do qbit: wtf bcallah: since I blow it all away with a clean install anyway qbit: bcallah: you runnin the latest amd64 snap? bcallah: nope
you? qbit: ssh-add seems to have shit the bed bcallah: psure that's already known -: qbit reads some email SirSkidmore: so technically, you don't need to download the bsd.rd from the new arch either? bcallah: also, if you have inet access and can watch video from where you are...
twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda
the game they're playing is Metal Wolf Chaos
it's hilarious qbit: yer hilarious! bcallah: am SirSkidmore: bcallah: okay. Hopefully it's all fixed now piroko: Getting new tires for the fr-s today. Excited qbit: rad
new tires rock
it's like a new car lteo: how much space does the fr-s have in the back for big car seats? SirSkidmore: hmm jrick: they advertise it as having enough space for your tires SirSkidmore: 13 minutes remiaing for a 20mb zip file >.> qbit: tire-babies dbtid: lteo: o/ lteo: dbtid: o jrick: lteo: you should get a hot hatch instead brycec: lolololteo asking about space for a car seat in a sportster dbtid: i think you should buy an Escalade ESV
your kids will love it brycec: ESV - Extra Slutty Version? East-Siiiide Version? Extremely Sordid Version? jrick: extra slutty version was always my favorite bible transalation lteo: jrick: what?? you're not a KJV fundie??!
brycec: would be fun to drive around with a souped up sportster with big spoilers and all, and with huge car seats in the back seat zod000: jrick: "And Moses said 'Met my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'"
s/Met/Let/ BryceBot: <zod000> jrick: "And Moses said 'Let my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'" -: zod000 is not familar with that passage SirSkidmore: zod000: obviosuly it's in Cinton 5:11 ***: kieselsteini has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
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lteo: i often type "postgisql" eest: lteo: can you imagine running a website using postgresql _and_ lighttpd :P dvl_: I often type fuck you, when I mean, oh? lteo: heh i'm the other way round
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man.
SirSkidmore: you use manifest? piroko: lteo: FR-S has enough room for car seats qbit: nice piroko: I actually just rode in the back of a brz on my way back from the tire place. If I can fit, a car seat can fit qbit: agreein dbtid: ESV == Extra Sweet Version qbit: ew
sweet and meat don't go imo :D dbtid: so you want Extra Sweet Vagina?
i can say that word here, right?
no underage kids here? jrick: 80 character line length limit: the greatest foe of concurrent code qbit: lol
dbtid: think you can
:D kusuriya: luckily for you the 80 char limit isnt part of the spec unlike SMTP headers :P SirSkidmore: qbit: ? qbit: SirSkidmore: https://github.com/gigamonkey/manifest SirSkidmore: qbit: no
I don't do a ton of CL
I've done quite a bit of scheme qbit: scheme on my friend ;D SirSkidmore: it's what my school teaches qbit: nice
you use stumpwm ya? SirSkidmore: yeah
FUCK
forgot I had a ADN developer account tied to my paypal
just overdrafterd hard mcchunkie: TWSS! brycec: Why do you hate ADN so much? Are you trying to bankrupt them??? SirSkidmore: brycec: wait
what
and my paypal was tied to my old bank acct # brycec: Clearly you're trying to short ADN their money. SirSkidmore: so I have no money
and it takes 2-3 days for it to appear in my new bank so I can transfer money over
well
crap
this is an expensive mistake
a $70 mistake... brycec: Man, why doesn't nmap scan ipv6 ranges? It's not like the smallest subnet is undectillion addresses or anything.
18446744073709551616 isn't that many, is it?
@wa 18446744073709551616 BryceBot: 18446744073709551616;1.8446744073709551616 × 10^19;18 quintillion ...;18 billion billion ...;20 decimal digits;10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000_2;2^64;m->2->3->4->5->6->7->8->9, 18 446 744 ... 551 616 mod m->0->1->0->1->4->2->0->7;18446744073709551616 is an even number.;18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power.;A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible with straightedge and compass. brycec: "A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible" this sentence seems false. -: bcallah hands brycec a straightedge and compass bcallah: only one way to find out! -: brycec kiks self brycec: *kills dbtid: grrr
these guys broke this damn web page
now everything is going to be more difficult brycec: "18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power" gee no kidding, Wolframalpha :D SirSkidmore: brycec: did you want to play with the ADN api?
I can let you use this account
I don't want it to go to waste brycec: SirSkidmore: that's generous, thank you. I actually found dalton's (I think) api-lite stuff SirSkidmore: duerigs brycec: Yeah
knew it was a d SirSkidmore: do you want a full API? brycec: (and then I forgot about the project altogether) SirSkidmore: I'd hate to see this all go to waste dbtid: OF FOR FUCK'S SAKE! WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?! IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!!
s/OF/OH/ BryceBot: <dbtid> OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE! WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?! IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!! qbit: SirSkidmore: doooh brycec: Wow that's saying something, dbtid dbtid: i can get to doc.opensuse.com but not www.google.com
WTF!? brycec: Since FF's proxy configs are >>> than Chrome's SirSkidmore: qbit: yeah
I'm kind of mad at myself
I was planning on closing this account today too >.> dbtid: yeah, well, they're not working now. SirSkidmore: and while I'm at it, let me go change over my papypal info dbtid: SirSkidmore: post it here so we can help you. qbit: SirSkidmore: glad it happened tho - reminded me to drop my dev account ;D -: brycec is still waiting for ADN integration into Bitlbee SirSkidmore: I'm kind of really sad to see adn on a sudden decline :/ brycec: >.>
<.< dbtid: this is nuts brycec: s/this is/I am/ BryceBot: <dbtid> I am nuts dbtid: i can get to several pages, but not ones i really need.
i can get to openbsd.org and linux-wireless.org
can't get to yahoo.com google.com or a few other sites. brycec: dbtid: does FF give an error message? something useful? dbtid: FF isn't useful for anything anymore.
no. it says nothing. brycec: So it's just a blank page? dbtid: it says "Waiting for <websitenamehere>..."
has no problem with some sites brycec: What type of proxy? dbtid: i go over to my windows machine (granted, on another network, but goes through the same upper layers) and have no problems.
i don't know the brand. brycec: http? socks? dbtid: http brycec: dbtid: do you have an https proxy set? dbtid: /etc/sysconfig/proxy contains HTTP_PROXY HTTPS_PROXY and FTP_PROXY all set to the same value. brycec: every site you aren't able to hit is one on the auto-https list dbtid: chrome has no problem using these
i tell FF to use the system proxies. brycec: so try setting them manually? dbtid: ah
no
i didn't hit the check mark to say use all the same
ok here's what's happening
if i tell ff to use the system settings, it fails SirSkidmore: well dbtid: if i set it manually and say "use all" it works SirSkidmore: this sucks >.> dbtid: it works now
but seriously. that sucked. brycec: (A bunch of relevant, but useless google hits for the issue) dbtid: ok, so this site i'm using (an internal site) has some untrusted scripts, which chrome refuses to say anything about, but when used with FF, FF actually prompts and then lets me run the scripts.
so that's one thing FF lets me do that chrome won't
now le's see if all this infrastructure BS we pay for will work. brycec: I'm a fan of Chrome's approach - don't confuse the idiots and keep them reasonably secure. Devs know to look in the console for errors. jrick: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/golang-nuts/sN6BFoli5GE brycec: (Anything to keep from confusing the stupid users) jrick: wtf SirSkidmore: "Y'know, every time I see that word, I think about the pieces of paper that floated around my Brooklyn garden one horrible September afternoon."
I kind of know where he's going with that
I just don't care dbtid: oh this software just suck
s
we have indirect access to the customer machines
so i tell it to take a script containing 'ps auxw > /tmp/psuaxw.txt' and put it in /tmp and then run it on upload.
then i tell it to give me /tmp/psuaxw.txt
does it do it?
NO!? SirSkidmore: jrick: that man is an idiot jrick: makes for fun lunch reading though SirSkidmore: "In some cases it is easy to perceive where a word might contain a negative or disturbing association - hijack is just such a word. **Especially** after Sep 11." dbtid: agreed: what an idiot SirSkidmore: wow, even Rob Pike stepped in ***: Scrawn has quit IRC (Changing host)
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Scrawn has joined #devious dbtid: fun stuff SirSkidmore: yeah, he's just going to wrap the method so he never has to think about it again >.> jrick: someone tell him the compiler is inlining his wrapper so he's still calling Hijack brycec: @golang
>.> BryceBot: "I believe Go is actively harming the software industry by providing a very incapable tool for building working software, yet it’s presented as a real alternative. I do not think it’s responsible to let others get introduced to such silliness." https://lobste.rs/s/gw0wsx/why_i_m_not_going_to_stop_posting_go_links/comments/rbkqse brycec: slowbot is slow SirSkidmore: well that was a hugely fun thread to read dbtid: the Chris dude seems like an asshole :) SirSkidmore: holy crap
qbit: you're like the 8th person on the lobste.rs user tree
huh qbit: :D SirSkidmore: and kyl is a moderator qbit: my uid is 4 yrmt: hai qbit: howdie yrmt zod000: jrick: that Go "hijack" thread was beyond rediculous. Makes me want to fly a plane into his browser
too soon? yrmt: my devious shell account can't handle pkgsrc :( SirSkidmore: zod000: nope
I laughed zod000: :D
SirSkidmore: o/ jrick: zod000: i loled too zod000: SirSkidmore: yeah qbit is like a proto-human of the lobster world -: kyl gets to do a greenfield C project zod000: i like that you can see the user tree and who invited who qbit: "the gateway to devious"
er for? SirSkidmore: zod000: o qbit: fuggin lol http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/06/fleshlight-launchpad
the ad
omg the ad dbtid: assume NSFW? zod000: haha ***: yrmt has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!) qbit: yea
there isn't much nsfw
just fleshlights bouncing around jrick: everything is sfw when you work from home qbit: truth SirSkidmore: I kind of want to click
but I totally shouldn't lteo: click first, think later -: SirSkidmore prefers to think firs ona work machine SirSkidmore: s/sw/st/
shoot
how do you mark the end of a word
I guess that would have matched the s in prefers too -: SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx though qbit: tr/[:upper:]/[:lower:]/ BryceBot: >>> SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx tholgh qbit: tr/[::upper::]/[::lower::]/ BryceBot: >>> SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx tholgh -: qbit rage quits brycec: nope
qbit: not supported by php qbit: tr/[a-z]/[A-Z]/ BryceBot: <brycec> QBIT: NOT SUPPORTED BY PHP brycec: The only reason ^^ is supported is because I implemented the range-expansion.
http://us1.php.net/strtr qbit: snap
ribo: sounds like ODESZA has some Tribe called Red in thar: https://soundcloud.com/odesza/no-sleep-mix-05 BryceBot: SoundCloud: "NO.SLEEP - Mix.05 by ODESZA" by ODESZA qbit: or what ever TCR sampled :D brycec: (for those wondering what that consists of http://sprunge.us/BKfI)
Ribo's not here, maaaaan dbtid: "Download a file to this asset" and "Upload a file from this asset"
those are just wrong. qbit: ass et
brycec: Y U NO OPEN SOURCE? dbtid: i've been doing communications stuff like that since 1983. brycec: qbit: working on it in my limited spare time. dbtid: "upload to" and "download from" brycec: qbit: I don't work for Oracle, I don't have 9 hour conference calls during which i can fuck around -: brycec feels about ready or ragequit this job anyways qbit: http://dailycurrant.com/2014/06/27/63-of-americans-think-belgium-is-a-beer-company
made me lol
brycec: if you open source it... we can all work on it :D brycec: yeah yeah, qbit
but before I release it, there's cleanup to be done. lteo: twhs SirSkidmore: lteo++ -: dbtid offers brycec some tissues for his hygiene. qbit: goodguy dbtid kyl: qbit: they make whiskey too?
or wines zod000: qbit: bahaha
begium should become a beer company
nationalize all those breweries
take over the beery world from ambev ***: elalo has joined #devious qbit: lol elalo: its friday lteo: *it's dbtid: anyone here familiar with Axeda? elalo: lteo: its friday. get off my back! jrick: the week's friday
its friday elalo: will it be a tequila friday or a gin friday? dbtid: elalo: *it's* kyl: scotch dbtid: *it's*
*it's*
*it's*
*it's* tmrd: is the server offline? dbtid: *it's* elalo: scotch makes me angry :( dbtid: it's not kyl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=063jQAM6N8I elalo: burbon makes me loveable BryceBot: YouTube Comedy: "The It's-man & Intros of Monty Python's Flying Circus" by RobbySpry (9m 57s), 49,210 views, 265 likes and 3 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-11T22:08:26.000Z. lteo: elalo: how about crotch? dbtid: elalo: *bourbon kyl: lteo: gonna see how everyone likes my yoda conditionals -: elalo intentionally misspells all teh words lteo: kylol dbtid: like them they will not lteo: kyl: you should make it yoda exim style: if (1 = = x) kyl: haha
I did
on accident on one of them lteo: @lod BryceBot: ಠ_ಠ dbtid: i always write my conditional that use constant with the constant on the left kyl: except it was (1 = =x) lteo: whoa
dbtid: example? kyl: dbtid: aka yoda conditionals?
if (TSS_RESULT == tpm->res) { ERRROROROROROROROR; } dbtid: lteo: if (0 < x) printf ("x is positiven");
i don't know how long they've been called yoda conditionals. lteo: wow. mind blown dbtid: i've been writing code that way for a long time (original code -- if i'm patching someone's code, i will follow what they've done).
i actually had one "engineer" complain because of that. -: lteo complains dbtid: i told him it prevents common mistakes in C -: dbtid tases lteo elalo: yoda conditionals are the win. protect yourself against forgetting to include the constant! lteo: blown is mind. dbtid: ^my^ elalo: blown my mind is. tmrd: apparently it's only down for me, according to isup.me -: SirSkidmore apparently just missed a lot dbtid: these fuckers wrote all this bullshit in perl tmrd: brycec: can you unban me: 64.71.8.10 kyl: dbtid: I just like to have everything explode during _compilation_ v. runtime if I accidentally assign a const jrick: assign a const wut kyl: I guess I only do it for equality checks dbtid: kyl: exactly
kyl: do it for all conditionals -- blown will be their minds.
e.g. if i leave off the < or > or ! i end up with the expression 'constant = variable' and i'm still safe. CyL: @wiki yoda conditionals BryceBot: Yoda conditions :: In programming jargon, Yoda conditions (also called Yoda notation) is a programming style where the two parts of an expression are reversed from the typical order in a conditional statement. A yoda condition places the constant portion of the expression on the left side of the conditional statement. The name for this programming style is derived from the Star Wars... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoda%20conditions ***: kur0 has joined #devious dbtid: created in May of 2103
err
created in May of 2013
sorry. i accidentally slipped there. lteo: s/y s/y nip-/ BryceBot: <dbtid> sorry. i accidentally nip-lipped there. dbtid: i forgot that when i was in the future and first wrote that.
lteo: nice try
but you missed -: dbtid tases lteo jrick: s/se/ste/ BryceBot: >>> dbtid tastes lteo -: dbtid is really happy to have the fast recharge taser model dbtid: jrick: >: -: dbtid shoots jrick with a rail gun jrick: well at least one of you enjoys it dbtid: jrick: oh, lteo *loves* to be tased. lteo: wow is it me or the new generation of programmers don't get Makefiles jrick: I don't get why you'd want a makefile either
get a decent toolchain elalo: autotools has spoiled them
now everyone with $100 haircuts is coding in golang without worrying about the implications of their work! -: elalo gets angry all over again jrick: yes every go programmer uses autotools qbit: and has 100$ haircuts :D -: kyl uses autotools kyl: and is a go programmer
>.>
<.< jrick: TIL kyl is every go programmer kyl: literally jrick: that would make you literally hitler qbit: basho mcchunkie: weathered bones
just thinking of the wind
it pierces my body ***: mcchunkie was kicked by kyl (none of that crap)
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I'll always remember that protip dbtid: wtf elalo
wtf wtf qbit: SirSkidmore: always dbtid: SirSkidmore: no, never always. just never. kyl: otip?
brotip? mcchunkie: irssi segfaults on 5.4 if you do /last on an icb channel kyl: brotip? mcchunkie: trust is weaksauce qbit: notbad dbtid: qbit: mcchunkie needs a lobotomy qbit: how come? dbtid: mcchunkie is weaksause qbit: wat SirSkidmore: protip
protip? mcchunkie: the best coding font is comic sans. SirSkidmore: lol
protip? mcchunkie: British Columbia is best Columbia dbtid: the database is full of nonsense
Colombia is the best Columbia SirSkidmore: @rms BryceBot: Richard Stallman says: I never imagined that the Free Software Movement would spawn a watered-down alternative, the Open Source Movement, which would become so well-known that people would ask me questions about 'open source' thinking that I work under that banner. dbtid: yeah. who could confuse those? elalo: rms: porting non-free software to an OS is bad! but porting a free compiler to a non-free OS is good! SirSkidmore: does stallman sound like a preacher at talks?
because in my head elalo: sirskidmore: a homeless preacher. with no followers. SirSkidmore: I just imagine him dressed in the church of emacs getup shouting at people and sprinking water on people qbit: so far that's the only thing i don't like about emacs SirSkidmore: qbit: rms? qbit: GPLv3 SirSkidmore: ohhh
I still think it would be really cool to see an actual clojure implementation of emacs qbit: in teh jvm? SirSkidmore: yeah qbit: not sure i can support that SirSkidmore: don't you work for oracle?
aren't you supposed to <3 java? qbit: >.>
<.< SirSkidmore: just saying...
but I agree
I think I non-GPL emacs would be great dbtid: write one and call it "scam" kyl: eewwwww clojuremacs
racketmacs would be cool though
or one that uses cl SirSkidmore: kyl: that would actually be a lot of fun
<3 scheme CosmiCruz: kyl!!! <3
qbit!!! <3
SirSkidmore: o/ SirSkidmore: o qbit: CosmiCruz: o/ CosmiCruz: how's it going, SirSkidmore? qbit: sup mang SirSkidmore: It's going CosmiCruz: qbit: o
not much, mr qbit SirSkidmore: just ready to go home, you know CosmiCruz: SirSkidmore: you're at work or something? SirSkidmore: CosmiCruz: yeah CosmiCruz: awesome o/ SirSkidmore: CosmiCruz: meh
:D CosmiCruz: :P
what's going on at work, SirSkidmore? SirSkidmore: kyl: have you read little schemer/reasoned schemer/seasoned schemer?
CosmiCruz: absolutely nothing at all CosmiCruz: SirSkidmore: you should start the harlem shake at your office. SirSkidmore: uh
no CosmiCruz: well, you gotta do something fun, I think
troll your neighbors? qbit: CosmiCruz: radical CosmiCruz: qbit: o/ qbit: CosmiCruz++
all good ideas CosmiCruz: lol SirSkidmore: CosmiCruz: I am in a cubicle by myself :( no one occupies the cubicles surronding me :( CosmiCruz: SirSkidmore: oh :( SirSkidmore: my russian friend is across the way, but he's out of the office at the moemnt
I swear to god, there are people in this office who probably don't know if I speak English
I only talk to Mikhail in Russian, ha CosmiCruz: do you? SirSkidmore: yes CosmiCruz: :P elalo: sirskidmore: that sounds like paradise
a quiet place to get work done CosmiCruz: or to IRC, amirite SirSkidmore: CosmiCruz: 100% right
CosmiCruz: o/ CosmiCruz: o elalo: pyezdetz ***: Nei_ has joined #devious
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wyri has joined #devious SirSkidmore: elalo: yeahh... I can't really figure out russian that's written in Roman BryceBot: New OpenBSD snapshots for amd64! (Fri Jun 27 2014 11:56:06 GMT-0700(PDT)) ***: al3hex has joined #devious jorey: https://twitter.com/trevorpaglen/status/482595956752670722 BryceBot: TWITTER: Go! @EFF: It's true. EFF and @Greenpeace flew a 135 ft. airship over Utah NSA data center https://eff.org/r.kzpb http://t.co/OfO7Qabcam" (Fri Jun 27 18:46:56 +0000 2014, retweeted 14 times) zod000: if donating to the EFF got you free zepplin flights over the NSA data center, they'd have tons more donations
until they get shot down anyway
heh jorey: i'd donate if that would get me shot down. hell, i should go to detroit, i can probably get shot there for free! ***: Leftwee is now known as Lefty zod000: jorey: your desire to get shot is intriguing. I stive to remain unshot as long as I can dbtid: *strive
jorey: your odd desire to get shot could help a lot of people practice their marksmanship.
jorey: i fully endorse this pursuit.
jorey: have at it and good luck! zod000: dbtid: well if he isn't dodging, i won't help as much jorey: i can pretend to dodge zod000: haha dbtid: Pew Research Center: if you're proud to be an American, you're probably not a liberal. jorey: dbtid: thanks! dbtid: jorey: sure. anytime we tackle a large undertaking, we need support. elalo: sirskidmore: it means 'we're totally utterly fucked' but in russian the word is a derivative of the russian word for clitoris.
so the translation is approximate. jorey: so.. FUBAR? :p elalo: bingo jorey: elalo: what's the word? elalo: well all i know is the phonetic spelling using english letters. jorey: ah elalo: pyezdyetz.
developing software with ukrainians is fun. BryceBot: New OpenBSD snapshots for i386! (Fri Jun 27 2014 11:58:13 GMT-0700(PDT)) kyl: heh
after Go's switch statements, C's switches are meh Nei: at least it has switches! jrick: after rust's match expressions, statements are meh Nei: also need to keep in mind what it translates to kyl: assuming matches are the pattern matching pretty much every functional language has had forever? Nei: in C I know I get a nice jump table kyl: a const uint8_t can't be used for a switch kusuriya_: hmm now I have a hard choice to make kyl: whereas in Go
it would be
s/w/c/ BryceBot: <kyl> it could be elalo: Sirskidmore: пиздец == fubar SirSkidmore: okay zod000: kusuriya_: what choice? SirSkidmore: see, I recognize that kusuriya_: I got a job offer to be an exchange admin for the defense language insitutie elalo: sirskidmore: it's also a very, very naughty word (as described above) SirSkidmore: right kusuriya_: but that means I have to move to monterey CA in 3 weeks SirSkidmore: I know that one and хопа but that's really it zod000: kusuriya_: I know you wanted to do something else, but a least it gets your out of a toxic workplace elalo: siski == tits zod000: s/your/you/ BryceBot: <zod000> kusuriya_: I know you wanted to do something else, but a least it gets you out of a toxic workplace jorey: SirSkidmore: сука = whore. дурак = asshole/idiot (but more used in the sense of "fuck!" whe nsomething goes wrong)
SirSkidmore: you need to know those words!!!111111 bcallah: fuck! SirSkidmore: ohhhh kusuriya_: yeah but thats a quick move
thats 2 week notice + week to move zod000: kusuriya_: yeah, won't be easy SirSkidmore: yeah I know сука from playing DoTA2 a few times with Russian people zod000: understatement in the least jorey: haha kusuriya_: in theroy its really easy assuming I can find an apartment in a week zod000: lol SirSkidmore elalo: пиздец: russian noun to describe a worst case, which became even worse zod000: kusuriya_: moving tends to suck no matter what kusuriya_: id be closer to kyl i guess :P zod000: that's a selling point if I'veever heard one
kyl raises select property values wherever he travels elalo: kyl: monterey is beautiful. overcast often. mild temperatures. zod000: s/kyl/kusuriya_/ BryceBot: <elalo> kusuriya_: monterey is beautiful. overcast often. mild temperatures. elalo: yeah whoever ;) zod000: :)
@weather 34653 BryceBot: New Port Richey, FL: Thunderstorm ☈ 88°F (31°C), Humidity: 69%, Wind: From the WNW at 6.8 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=28.262777,-82.700165 or re-request this with: @weather -v 34653 zod000: lies, it is over 90 and no clouds in the sky kusuriya_: i know monterey is pretty
Lived there for a few years as a kid
and helped a buddy move there when he got selected to be an instructor of farsi at DLI elalo: полный пиздец: worst case that became even worse, and is now completely FUBAR to the extent that it simply cannot be increased. kusuriya_: i still like the idea of lumshevuk (sp?)
a word that has no translation but the idea is it is painful to the mind jorey: SirSkidmore: there's another funny one, with a little story: i've always been close to a few russian families. anyways, this one friend of mine didn't really know russian all that well anymore, but his parents did. we were teenagers at the time and his mom wasn't pleased with something he did, so she started talking in russian and he was just like "yeah..whatever" until some point he looked confused, thought for a second and then asked her whether ...
... she really just said that.
SirSkidmore: what she said was "ёб твою мать!" which literally means something like "fuck your mother" or "i fucked your mother" or something, but it's a really general cussword as well, occasionally used when you're simply not happy with something someone did lteo: arhhshsghahahah!!! jorey: SirSkidmore: and by no means /as/ offensive as it sounds. since he didn't know cause he didn't care about russian, he thought she meant it literally and got really confused :)
#walloftext #hashtagsinirc
#yoloswagforjesus elalo: you forgot 420 zod000: @beerforpresident
err jorey: beer++ zod000: #beerforpresident
beer++ SirSkidmore: jorey: lol
beer++ zod000: soon it shall be beer time SirSkidmore: still have 35 minutes zod000: exactly kusuriya_: but yeah to I stay or go mianosm: beer thirty can't come fast enough mcchunkie: that's what she said! zod000: mianosm++ -: lteo is trying to prevent a new program from descending into unmaintainable hell kusuriya_: beer thirty started for me yesterday at 3 elalo: she had degenerative alcoholism jorey: http://rlv.zcache.com/beer_thirty_watch-r01cfe6c521d54b3b9cad268fc58479fc_wmod9_8byvr_512.jpg zod000: lteo: you cannot stop the tide lteo: STFU
i shall stop the tide! zod000: lteo: accept the entropy of the universe or be destroyed by it lteo: this madness cannot continue
i don't get why do programmers tolreate this shite -: zod000 pictures lteo having his 'THIS IS SPARTA!' moment zod000: kick that newbie programmer into a pit
lteo: some don't just tolerate it, they revel in it jorey: zod000: "fight in the shade" :( lteo: the debugging messages clearly show the stuff is wrong
and yet, he thinks it's working well
what the fruit bcallah: lteo: how can a new program already be in danger of unmaintainable hell?
did you write it with crayon? zod000: lteo: my favorite is the programmer that fixes bugs my throwing a try/catch around them and them moving on lteo: bcallah: when the new program gradually becomes not-so-new program zod000: like hoping it will just go away lteo: zod000: let me guess, the catch is for the broadest exception there is? ;) jorey: zod000: try{ ... } catch(Exception e){}? :) zod000: jorey: yes
exactly jorey: godlike zod000: mother fuckers bcallah: lteo: who's writing this program?
is this juniordev? CosmiCruz: bcallah!!! <3
zod000!!! <3
<| L T E O |> piroko: CosmiCruz!!! <3 zod000: CosmiCruz: o/ CosmiCruz: piroko!!! <3
o
how's everybody doing? piroko: o[13:31] <zod000> could be worse
YES I MEANT TO HIT MYSELF
I realized I utterly hate my pathetic existence working day in and day out staring at a computer screen for 40 hours a week
Other than that though I'm good bcallah: so fucking tired... CosmiCruz: piroko: o/
bcallah: why is that? :( bcallah: long week CosmiCruz: mmm
yay, long week o/ lteo: so hard to find people who just get it zod000: piroko: i suggest beer/sex/fun over the weekend, in no particular order piroko: zod000: that sounds like a great idea minus the beer. I'll take liquor tho CosmiCruz: what's going on, mr lteo? zod000: piroko: that is an acceptable substitute CosmiCruz: liquor++
what's going on, mr zod000? zod000: jsut working
nothing fun CosmiCruz: if only you're allowed to beer&&code at work BryceBot: New OpenBSD packages for i386! (Fri Jun 27 2014 01:08:53 GMT-0700(PDT)) CosmiCruz: where'd everybody go? :( zod000: CosmiCruz: you scared them off
heh CosmiCruz: I always do :(
lol
how's life outside of work and IRC, mr zod000? zod000: if i were still working in an office, i'd likely not be talkative this close to 5pm
CosmiCruz: shitty :(
work and irc are the high points CosmiCruz: oh :( zod000: i don't particularly want to elaborate right now, but things are rough -: SirSkidmore hugs
CosmiCruz hugs too zod000: thanks guys -: SirSkidmore doesn't let go zod000: wait, what is this
its a trap! CosmiCruz: it's an intervention
lolol... j/k SirSkidmore: i was going to make it weird -: zod000 feels like Admiral Ackbar SirSkidmore: but decided against it ***: djdead has joined #devious zod000: IT'S A TRP!
err
IT'S A TRP!
IT'S A TRAP!
fuck SirSkidmore: lolololol Nei: nice tr
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KILLALLH1MANS01: o/
aren't they bots? dvl_: We're safe then. jrick: I hate traps
that's why I do inline error handling CosmiCruz: jrick!!! <3 ***: ryk has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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djdead_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) SirSkidmore: alright
I'm heading home
bye zod000: have a good weekend SirSkidmore
i am going to go try and have a beer before all hell breaks loose again here
have a good weekend all (not that I won't be around here) SirSkidmore: zod000: I'm sure I'll be around some this weekend :D -: zod000 waves goodbye CosmiCruz: later, mr zod000 <3 ***: ryk has joined #devious
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sirskidmore: have a nice weekend qbit: zod000: ima need you to have a good weekend
kthx
https://i.imgur.com/840qbLx.gif elalo: qbit: are you the horse or the lamb CosmiCruz: ryk <3
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s/fr[a-z]+e/elalo/
maybe not jrick: denied kyl: it was going to be SO FUNNY YOU GUYS ***: SirSkidmore has joined #devious elalo_: i haven't pooped myself in over a week CosmiCruz: kyl!!! <3 lteo: elalo_: o/ elalo_: o CosmiCruz: elalo_: is that a record?
lteo!!! <3 lteo: CosmiCruz!!! CosmiCruz: what's going on, mr lteo? ***: yrmt has joined #devious lteo: un-crapping some code elalo_: cosmicruz: who keeps score? ;) CosmiCruz: guinness, perhaps? -: CosmiCruz shrugs elalo_: cosmicruz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siCNdfH9U40
cosmicruz: nice to meet you, btw. CosmiCruz: nice to meet you too :D -: CosmiCruz <3s everyone elalo_: i picture cosmicruz as an earthy santa cruz spirit child CosmiCruz: hmm...
anyways... gotta go or something, maybe. -: CosmiCruz has some trees to hug. elalo_: it was not my intention to induce an afk. ***: yrmt has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!)
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yrmt has joined #devious SirSkidmore: I'm so over my internship ***: cmacrae has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) elalo_: :( lteo: this just appeared in work chat "I was wrapping a wrapper" -: elalo_ winces kyl: lteo: o/
sometimes you have to reduce friction for your API friction-reducer SirSkidmore: lteo: was the original wrapper too offensive?
did they wrap hijacking in "nineEleven" lteo: kyl: o SirSkidmore: also, kyl sorry for taking your star of sedlisp on github and posting it to lobste.rs
thought it was really neat, and couldn't believe it wasn't already posted :d
s/d$/D/ ***: SirSkidmore was kicked by kyl (-.-) kyl: there piroko: yikes
you actually mad kyl? kyl: no
of course not
i got so much karma i can share with the peasants
err
D: piroko: lol ***: FreezingCold has joined #devious kyl: lteo: funny enough, this project involves writing a wrapper
then I'm going to write a Go layer over that
so I might end up wrapping a wrapper lteo: lol piroko: dude sirskidmore never came back... ***: xha has joined #devious
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ChanServ sets mode: +o bcallah dbtid: greetings ***: FreezingCold has joined #devious brycec: !tell SirSkidmore KILLALLH1MANS01 is not a bot, especially not running on devio.us. It's me, logged in from devio.us, evidenced by the hostmask. zdo: brycec: I'll tell SirSkidmore next time they speak. brycec: I hate idiots. dbtid: what brought that on? brycec: dbtid: dealing with idiots :p dbtid: you think sirskidmore is an idiot? brycec: My comment was not in reference to SirSkidmore dbtid: ah, that was my confusion.
yes, dealing with idiots is not pleasant.
ok, time to go help my wife. later. good luck with the idiots. -: brycec thinks it's nap time brycec: later CosmiCruz: kyl!!! <3
also, later brycec
also, hi dbtid
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you can't find the headers I JUST installed? elalo_: i work for a spinoff of vmware and emc. they initially said we have to use vcloud for our virtualization enviornment. after 6 months of vcloud shitting the bed we all have amazon accounts bcallah: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2014-June/045494.html
this thread is terrible
if you freebsd... ampharos: https://i.imgur.com/4PGpEGp.png america learns futbol hooliganism bcallah: lol, america has always known futbol hooliganism
just not directed towards futbol ***: BryceBot has joined #devious
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My external CD drive is in storage unfortunately
I think grub(which is currently installed on it) can boot ISOs dd'd to regular disks BryceBot: New OpenBSD snapshots for hppa! (Fri Jun 27 2014 16:25:40 GMT-0700(PDT)) jrick: mmmhm pho bcallah: kbw: you gotta be fuucking with me kbw: Also sue me for looking like a Garyite but I kind of like Motif for its rc syntax
I can't stand FVWM's bcallah: do you guys know of any way I can get a bootable installer working on my USB?
you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool elalo_: kbw is a powerful man. bcallah: fuck that, should be put under @bcallah
Brian Callahan says: you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool ***: kbw has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) bcallah: brycec: ^^
make it happen :D
OPENBSD HAS USB INSTALL IMAGES YOU DUMB SHIT (yes I know he left)
ALL IT WOULD TAKE FOR YOU TO DISCOVER THIS IS TO GO FUCKING LOOK AT ANY FUCKING MIRROR elalo_: bcallah: when he's not berating the humans, he's berating the humans. ***: kbw has joined #devious kbw: Hi, what was my last message? ampharos: kbw: tl;dr: in mirror, usb installers are marked by .fs
dd that shit to the stick kbw: Oh thanks
This is new ampharos: bcallah just went postal
the police will arrive soon
he's going to arkham asylum bcallah: lol
I just can't believe how people here want to be spoonfed. jrick: bcallah: can I ship you my laptop to install openbsd on? bcallah: jrick: I assume all hw shipped to me is a gift to me
so yes, but then it's mine
seriously, you know how I got to be a dev? kbw: bcallah, I had been trying to solve how to get install via USB working with OpenBSD for some time, without an OpenBSD host being at my disposal, so my question was justified bcallah: I shut the fuck up until I could contribute something.
and then do you know what I did?
I SHUT THE FUCK UP SOME MORE AND DID SOMETHING.
no it wasn't
FUCKING MAILING LISTS
FUCKING MIRRORS
THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD elalo_: bcallah: yes but what did you do then? bcallah: elalo_: now I talk, because I've earned that right jrick: faqs exist to be read brycec: THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD
twss mcchunkie: Added funny: "THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD" bcallah: lol kbw: elalo_, did you ask bcallah how to become an OpenBSD dev or something? elalo_: no..you pissed him off. kbw: Or about how you plan on contributing? elalo_: don't put this on me kbw: I do that regularly bcallah: you don't lift a single finger to help yourself
you just expect someone else to do it for you kbw: I asked how I could get an OpenBSD image on a USB stick
You started ranting bcallah: because you didn't even bother looking
if you had you would have noticed the usb install images jrick: if you searched google maybe you'd find a good calomel link that answers your question ampharos: except calomel is shit tier
openbsd devs said that jrick: thatsthejoke.jpg ampharos: they have a pkg_search script... when they could be pkg_info -Q elalo_: yousuck mcbain! kbw: bcallah, Ever since 4.9 I have never noticed any USB images, I didn't expect them to spontaneously be there this release bcallah: kbw: maybe you should learn to look
shit gets better every day kbw: Ok
Is it possible to change the console colors in OpenBSD to black on white? elalo_: i think you're going to give bcallah an aneurism. kbw: inb4 do it via the shell
Good jrick: this is hillarious elalo_: s/ism/ysm BryceBot: <elalo_> i think you're going to give bcallah an aneurysm. kbw: He need to learn to not get upset over small things
*needs bcallah: lol
you need to learn how to be part of the Big Boys(TM) brycec: @bcallah BryceBot: Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something.
81,314 results found. Here's #7,768 May 23, 2013 12:00:25 <bcallah > it was kinda hard to hear brycec: @bcallah BryceBot: Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something. kbw: Bah the armv7 port supports cubieboard now elalo_: kbw: i do believe most of these questions could be easily answered via google BryceBot: 81,314 results found. Here's #1,003 Feb 28, 2013 20:49:21 <bcallah > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDifatTTOqU -: brycec smacks BryceBot kbw: elalo_, I already tried googling bcallah: kbw: holy shit! you did basic looking brycec: @bcallah bcallah: @bcallah BryceBot: Brett Callahan says: you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool.
Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something.
81,316 results found. Here's #59,695 Jan 06, 2014 18:19:29 <bcallah > github doesn't count
81,316 results found. Here's #6,818 May 18, 2013 12:26:36 <bcallah > revberaldo, bcallah: LMAO! Brett brycec: much better CosmiCruz: brycec!!! <3
bcallah!!! <3 jrick: ahahahaa brett CosmiCruz: jrick!!! <3 jrick: <3 bcallah: except I think it's funnier if the emo girl thing actually gets credited to me
because it's bascially insane kbw: There are emo people in 2006+8? jrick: lazy evalulation is a bitch CosmiCruz: how have you been, mr jrick? jrick: excellent
eating pho right now
and it is amazeballs kbw: jrick, I could never stand that stuff
The pho the vietnamese place makes near me smells like piss bit tastes okay
Regardless I can't eat it
Ever since I found a roach in my rice my stomach churns at the sight of chinese/vietnamese food bcallah: that's like pure protein CosmiCruz: bcallah++ jrick: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/potato-keycap kbw: bcallah, it's like pure salmonella brycec: No way jrick, go team brick!
@last Lefty BryceBot: brycec, I last saw Lefty 4 hours 8 min 16 sec ago quitting: *.net *.split. brycec: ping Lefty jrick: pong Lefty kbw: <rant>Pizza Hut has some fucking nasty pizza</rant> jrick: brycec: if only I could put a potato cap on my realforce brycec: s#Pizza Hut#Any given pizza chain/place# BryceBot: <kbw> <rant>Any given pizza chain/place has some fucking nasty pizza</rant> jrick: guess I'll have to settle for real potatos brycec: lol jrick
It's a silly abuse of 3D printers kbw: brycec, there aren't any small pizza places here
Only chains
Well there might be, on a different street brycec: Not even small places are exempt though kbw: Why? Are you a pizza hater> brycec: My point is that various people make that statement about various places. kbw: ?
Ah
Nobody can unanimously agree on one pizza place I understand bcallah: pizza hut by me isn't terrible
but I also live in NJ, so you wouldn't go to pizza hut anyway brycec: Likewise, and that's not biased. kbw: Pizza Hut is the worst for me brycec: lol bcallah kbw: Dominoes is pretty good
I used to swear by papa john's
And this local place I forget about, back when I lived in florida -: brycec misses his "local place" from back in AZ bcallah: lol kbw: bcallah, is there a lot of different pizza shops there? bcallah: there ain't no such thing as "local place" here
everyone in NYC/NJ area lives within delivery distance of at least 10 pizzarias kbw: huh brycec: bcallah: Well sure, that would be "10 local places" though bcallah: not really brycec: "local place" anything that isn't a big chain bcallah: because it's very often you'll go to one outside your delivery distance
because, fuck it, you're 10 minutes from home and want to bring home a pizza kbw: Which is better in terms of culture, NJ or NY state?
Excluding new york city bcallah: not useful: NY state and NJ are so large they have many different cultures
I live in the part of NJ that's basically an extension of NYC kbw: Large in terms of population? bcallah: so a lot of people here (myself included) are displaced city people
large in terms of pop and geographic distance to culture centers
south jersey is dominated by philly culture
and philly sucks
no one likes philly
or south jersey kbw: Here the only visible non-American culture is Mexican bcallah: except atlantic city
atlantic city is badass
you're figure that our in like 10 years
s/our/out/ BryceBot: <bcallah> you're figure that out in like 10 years bcallah: fuck
s/our/out/ | s/re/ll/ BryceBot: <bcallah> you'll figull that out in like 10 years -: bcallah throws his hands in the air
bcallah gives up and hates everyone kbw: One of my friends is Cuban, he comes from the same Florida neighborhood I came from kyl: s/b.+ss/boring/ BryceBot: <bcallah> atlantic city is boring kbw: Really interesting coincidence -: brycec hates bcallah back kbw: bcallah, are most NJ/NY inhabitants as angry as you are? bcallah: kyl: that's because you don't drink like I do :D kyl: truth bcallah: kbw: in NYC, everyone hate you
s/hate/hates/ BryceBot: <bcallah> kbw: in NYC, everyone hates you kbw: I hear you guys LOVE tourists bcallah: I hate tourists
I used to be in the WTC area a lot for nycbug stuff.
HATED being there kbw: I'll make sure to bring my statue of liberty hat and start up conversations on the subway bcallah: fucking tourists just stand around like idiots
I got fucking places to be kbw: And make sure to press my face against the window whenever I board a bus brycec: bcallah: I hear that gripe a lot from SNL and the like... And it's really that bad? kbw: If I go to NYC I'll bring my trusty list of things that piss off natives
bcallah, how popular is your BUG there?
I saw that you were on BSD Now talking about it, but I never watched the episode
Too much of a download bcallah: nycbug is among the healthiest bugs, if not the healthiest brycec: s/B/M/ | s/[A-Z]/[a-z]/ BryceBot: <kbw> [a-z] saw that you were on [a-z][a-z][a-z] [a-z]ow talking about it, but [a-z] never watched the episode brycec: fuck bcallah: we wield disproportionate influence for our size kbw: neat bcallah: extremely disproportionate kbw: There is a UNIX users group on the end of the stree I'm on
It seems pretty corporate though
It isn't the traditional sandals+tee-shirt organization where you discuss various distros and talk about hating The Man(microsoft)
bcallah, at an estimate, how many attendees are there on average? bcallah: 20-30
our conferences sell out
but we only do that once a year kbw: That's quite a bit
I never attended AUUG, I figure it's not my crowd bcallah: we're the respected user group kbw: The people who attend that use UNIX for their jobs bcallah: many attendees don't use bsd at all kbw: There's always some kind of sponsorship or presentation by some corporation bcallah: but they know nycbug is where the serious people are kbw: Not my thing bcallah: so they come to learn something kbw: bcallah, are they mostly desktop BSD users? bcallah: lol no kbw: Or do they all use Macs like the BSD user stereotype specifies bcallah: if you want to lol desktop, go to nylug
no - we're BSD users
that means everywhere kbw: ah bcallah: our work, our homes
everywhere
there's no distinction for "desktop BSD"
you use BSD kbw: If they're serious about using it they must not use it on every one of their devices
As their sole OS that is bcallah: that makes literally no sense kbw: bcallah, have you ever been to a LUG? bcallah: sure kbw: I have never attended one
bcallah, what are the people there like? bcallah: what do you think a BUG or a UUG is?
it's the same thing
just focused around BSD kbw: Kissless neckbeards whose skin hints of basement dwelling?
I figure LUGs would have desktop Linux users mainly
I might be wrong bcallah: yeah, it's mostly lol desktop the one's I've been to
that's why I don't frequent them kbw: Ah
Georgia Tech has a LUG bcallah: I'm not interested in the latest X compositor
I want to fucking learn something kbw: I might take MARTA over there at my next meeting
*their
No car :v bcallah: where I'm going there's a LUG and a (dormant) BUG
so I'm gonna restart the BUG, and be the badass BSD guy in the back of the room at the LUGs elalo_: "at the next LUG meeting we'll learn how systemd now automatically downloads and installs graphics drivers" kbw: bcallah, have you ever visited 4chan.org/g?
Would you say LUG attendees might browse that site?
Do many of them have a ranging interest in the viewing of anime or ricing their desktop?
elalo_, hehe
I'm interested in OpenBSD's systemd supplicant bcallah: kbw: why the fuck would I know what anyone else does who isn't me?
unless someone explicitly tells me kbw: Dunno bcallah: an protip: if you think I give a shit about what $RANDOM does, think again kbw: Ok
I know what my friends do because they tell me
Some of them are into anime some of them aren't bcallah: yes, I know what my friends do kbw: Then maybe your friends don't attend LUGs? bcallah: but the set of all of my friends and the set of all LUG attendees has 0 overlap kbw: I don't see myself going to a LUG and not socializing
If it's focused around Linux I might as well ask people I meet what distro they use bcallah: lol
socializing kbw: bcallah, do your friends use BSD as well? bcallah: the ones that understand computers do elalo_: coding can be fun! https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Og2EBG4N5M BryceBot: YouTube Tech: "iJustine codes a 3D printed bracelet with Shapeways" by Shapeways (2m 24s), 13,183 views, 52 likes and 28 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-19T12:27:12.000Z. bcallah: iJustine...
ugh elalo_: this is more ugh than normal
s/normal/usual BryceBot: <elalo_> this is more ugh than usual kbw: I never knew any Linux users who dedicated themselves to learn about it
Only a couple guys who dual booted it or ran it on their secondary computers that they hardly touched
And certainly no BSD users bcallah: maybe, and this is just a big fucking maybe because of who I'm gonna address this to
but just fucking maybe, you'll go LEARN something about a BSD, I don't actually give a shit which one (though I will judge you as an idiot if you pick the wrong one)
and then you'll be able to speak intelligently about BSD
and then maybe you won't be so much of a dumbass you can go to conferences and shit
and then make friends with real BSD users and devs kbw: There isn't any BSD groups in my state I don't think bcallah: holy fuck, I just gave you the best god damn life plan ever
I really can't believe how amazing I am. kbw: Your sarcasm can be painful to read at times :v bcallah: oh no, that was in no way sarcasm
I am clearly the greatest thing to ever happen to you. kbw: "greatest" bcallah: I gave you a fucking life plan.
how many people gonna do that for you? kbw: You might have made me consider learning something about BSD but nothing much more bcallah: and I don't even like you!
am I not merciful? kbw: bcallah, writing ports can't get me a job
Neither can any kind of BSD development, here at least bcallah: of course it can
you just haven't figured out how
BSD development got me an NSF fellowship
it's not that hard mcchunkie: twss! bcallah: just figure out how to market yourself and not be a bitch kbw: It's not hard to get an NSF fellowship? :p bcallah: tho you should probably work on the not being a bitch thing first
kbw: how many people you know with an NSF fellowship? kbw: None. bcallah: yeah, cause they're super hard to get and incredibly prestigious kbw: I don't know anybody with a diploma either, with the exception of a couple people.
I don't even contact the people I knew who graduated.
bcallah, do you use BSD for your job?
If you do, I hope it isn't to intrusive to ask you what you do bcallah: what I propose to do for my Ph.D. dissertation is predicated on me being an OpenBSD dev elalo_: what are the odds that kbw is really bcallah, and that all of this is an exercise in self-esteem? bcallah: zero kbw: Okay, you got me. bcallah: If I want self-esteem, I'll just go fuck a girl kbw: Don't listen to myself bcallah: I have plenty of those
sorry but you don't have the cadence or vocabulary to impersonate me kbw: Your vocabulary hasn
't been very extensive in my prescence elalo_: s/prescence/presence BryceBot: <kbw> 't been very extensive in my presence kbw: Mmm bcallah: you haven't been around long enough kbw: bcallah, maybe you wouldn't have misspelled that bcallah: all my mispelling are intentional kbw: hehe
I wonder if getting stoned increases programming productivity like they say elalo_: absolutely not. kbw: I've seen drunk programmers here elalo_: it increases creativeity, not productivity. kbw: They can hardly type
elalo_, I see
elalo_, the reason I ask is because during the entire development of a project I know of the sole developer claimed to have been under the influence
elalo_, http://github.com/vendu/OS-Zero elalo_: comments such as 'another bunch of changes :)' do not inspire confidence. kbw: Hehe
I remember having to change my commit message some 7 times when I was contributing to hexchat
I hardly knew how to use git
Is there any reason why OpenBSD still stands by cvs?
Hitler told me that git is pretty terrible, so maybe that's why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts BryceBot: YouTube Tech: "Hitler uses git" by ronopolis (3m 23s), 204,538 views, 1,684 likes and 257 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-01-28T05:39:42.000Z. zod000: kbw: where did you live in FL? -: zod000 was reading scroll back kbw: Sarasota and Cocoa Beach zod000: ah nice kbw: At two different times
I liked Cocoa better just because a lot of my family was there and the waves were bigger zod000: i used to work in st pete, i live about an hour north of there in pasco kbw: My family goes back several generations in that city :D zod000: most of my family is in pinellas kbw: Neat zod000: some are scattered in the country, but for the most part they are here kbw: I'm going to Sarasota next week to visit my grandparents, and Cocoa beach afterwards to visit some other family.
My Dad's family lives overseas zod000: kbw: as I am sure you are aware, it is hot and disgusting here right now
heh bcallah: 22:30 < kbw> Is there any reason why OpenBSD still stands by cvs?
go fucking read some mailing lists zod000: the "feels like" temp today was 109F kbw: zod000, D:
zod000, Hopefully that will clear up when I'm there zod000: kbw: if you are bring cool weather with you, you are a god damned sorceror kbw: hehe
It's not very cool here either zod000: and i will applaud your spells
kbw: where are you now? kbw: But it isn't humid like it was earlier in the year
Atlanta zod000: oh yeah, atlanta can get quite hot kbw: My dad is a registered investment advisor here
Used to be a stock broker CosmiCruz: ohai zod000... wb zod000: hiya CosmiCruz kbw: Part of me wants to live in Florida again :/ zod000: everyone else in the house is now asleep, i finally have a moment of peace
kbw: a lot of my family lives directly on the beach, i admit, it would be pretty awesome to live in that area CosmiCruz: zod000: o/ zod000: expensive as hell though
o CosmiCruz: moments of peace o/ kbw: Yeah
I used to be located in the suburbs north of here, things were much cheaper there
I'm not sure about the price of real estate, I'm not the one who pays the bills zod000: kbw: i have a friend that lives in alphareta (sp?)
it seemed nice when i visited kbw: I've never been there zod000: he commutes in to atlanta kbw: Neato zod000: i don't think I'd like to live in atlanta, but being in the burbs might not be so bad kbw: I don't like the suburbs here.
Too many country people :p
I always say outside of Atlanta it's "the south". zod000: yeah, thats no good
yeah, i have always had a saying "the problem with geogia is that it is full of georgians"
atlanta is mostly the exception
:) kbw: hehe zod000: i dated it a girl from georgia
she was so fucking georgian kbw: Most of the commuters stick inside their office complexes zod000: was awful
haha kbw: I don't have to see them usually zod000: i am pretty happy where i am living right now, but 90% of FL would not be acceptable to me kbw: hehe
Stay on the coast and you're safe
Safe from the people, not hurricanes :p zod000: i want : A> minimal country/rednecks B> nice homes and neighborhoods C> access to city like things when I want them (restaurants, malls, general civilization) and D> not crazy traffic and general busy bullshit kbw: zod000, the traffic could easily be solved by a marta expansion -: zod000 doesn't know what that is kbw: But what is mainly blocking that is cobb county
zod000, our bus/metro authority zod000: ah
our bus system sucks kbw: cobb refuses to allow them to build a station in the north
Our buses are a bit dangerous I heard
I've never used them zod000: mainyl because the only people that ride the bus seem to be people that can't afford a car
and who wants to ride with them?
lol kbw: zod000, that's the problem with most bus systems
zod000, unless you're in somewhere like new york where some working class people don't have cars zod000: i imagine in true big cities, cars end up being a liability rather than a benefit CosmiCruz: zod000++ kbw: Just to be clear Atlanta is not one of those cities zod000: no?
i guess it is probably because the streets actually work there kbw: Yeah, no middle class people use the buses
To my knowledge
There's a racist joke about MARTA
Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta zod000: I lol'd, but i felt suitably bad about it kbw: heh
It's an old joke elalo_: hello again cosmicruz kbw: zod000, I'm just glad I'm out of the suburbs. Public transportation = good for some carless person like me :D zod000: lol CosmiCruz: hello, elalo_ :D
how's it going? zod000: brb getting another beer CosmiCruz: MOAR BEER -: zod000 is enjoying La Fin du monde zod000: beer: la fin du monde mcchunkie: Unibroue (1990 : http://www.unibroue.com/ ) La Fin Du Monde ( ABV: 9 IBU: 19 ) - La Fin du Monde has a brilliant golden color with vigorously effervescent foam. It is midly yeasty with a complex palate of malt, fruit and spice notes followed by a smooth, dry finish. La Fin du Monde was developed through 18 months of research on a unique strain of yeast originating from Europe. It is brewed in honor of the intrepid European explorers who believed they had rea
orth America ‘the new world’. This triple-style golden ale recreates the style of beer originally developed in the Middle Ages by trappist monks for special occasions and as such it was the first of its kind to be brewed in North America. CosmiCruz: mcchunkie: botsnack mcchunkie: =.= CosmiCruz: mcchunkie: o/ mcchunkie: o CosmiCruz: protip? mcchunkie: Don't mix up + and - kbw: I'm enjoying Georgua's signature brand of fizzy sugar water :D kusuriya: brotip? mcchunkie: Don't make a mistake,e ver. kbw: lol CosmiCruz: kusuriya: TO THE CLOUD!!! BryceBot: TO THE CLOUD!!! kusuriya: hmm looks like a few more months and we will know if chinas lunar rover hunkered down correctly
it should be back in radio range by then :D
TO THE CLOUD! BryceBot: TO THE CLOUD!!! zod000: kbw: what do you mean "signature brand"? kbw: zod000, a well known brand in my state
I used it in the wrong context I know
Do any of you guys understand linker scripts? zod000: not I
the beer is helping me leaving understanding of things at the door jrick: <- out of beer :'( zod000: :(
i am stocked up ***: kbw is now known as kbw2 jrick: time to pour the rum ***: kbw2 is now known as kbw zod000: jrick: yo ho, it's a pirate's life for me CosmiCruz: goodnight, all <3 elalo_: goodnight cosmicruz
this is the first time i have had lagunitas pilsner. it is good. zod000: fucking idiots are already shooting off fireworks elalo_: zod000: throw beer bottles kbw: hehe zod000: if they wake my kids up i will murderize them jrick: kill some redcoats -: zod000 grabs his musket
kusuriya hides in the forest and shoots at the police and military with his musket kusuriya: PEW PEW GUYS! -: zod000 is off to cause trouble kusuriya: fuck yeah kbw: http://wecan.hasthe.technology/
Why the fuck is this DNS shit allowed kusuriya: why not elalo_: kbw: are you gary? kbw: Nope elalo_: k kbw: elalo_, I'm vaguely insulted you see resemblance between us :p ***: bizarro_1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) elalo_: i haven't interacted with gary. kbw: I came into his channel thinking not much of it, found out he was a psycho, and trolled my way into getting banned
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and I was out to dinner lteo: lol we thought you were pissed :p SirSkidmore: no
I was just gone lol brycec: Also you seemed to be "here" at the time SirSkidmore: brycec: yeah, I left in a hurry
nbdjs
I tend to leave without saying that I'm leaving a lot
alright, well I'm heading to bed
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