#devious 2014-06-27,Fri

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WhoWhatWhen
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BryceBotNew OpenBSD snapshots for zaurus! (Fri Jun 27 2014 03:04:41 GMT-0700(PDT)) [04:22]
ampharosanyone have a zaurus here? [04:23]
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SirSkidmoreampharos: I think someone does
I just can't remember who
[04:56]
ampharosi have an N900, nice thing
openbsd support would be god tier
i know winocm ported darwin to it but she did nothing else with that
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SirSkidmoreampharos: I think kyl might have it? [05:12]
dbtidgreetings [05:20]
SirSkidmorehey dbtid [05:20]
dbtidhi SirSkidmore [05:20]
joreyehlo dbtid
and SirSkidmore. and everyone else.
[05:20]
dbtidhi jorey [05:21]
SirSkidmoreat least it's friday [05:29]
dbtidat least [05:31]
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jrickmernin [06:02]
dbtidhi jrick
how are you this FINE friday morning?
[06:04]
jrickI am FINE [06:04]
dbtidFINE
BE THAT WAY THEN
[06:04]
jrickI WILL [06:04]
dbtidFINE [06:04]
jrickGOOD DAY SIR [06:04]
dbtidRIGHT
http://bash.org/?23396
[06:04]
BryceBotBash.org: "Quote #23396" [06:05]
dbtidhttp://bash.org/?5273 [06:05]
BryceBotBash.org: "Quote #5273" [06:05]
dbtidtoo bad bash.org seems to have died [06:05]
Neidied? [06:09]
SirSkidmorehaha dbtid that second one was one of my favorites [06:09]
dbtidSirSkidmore: it's been one of my favorites, too, for a long time. [06:10]
SirSkidmoreI read like the top 200 at one time [06:11]
joreyonly? [06:11]
dbtidi've done that before: put a machine under a bunch of stuff and then forgot about it. [06:11]
jrickNei: no no, it's, uh, resting [06:11]
joreySirSkidmore: http://bash.org/?random1 now. [06:11]
dbtidcould only find it by hunting down the ehternet cable.
*ethernet
[06:11]
joreySirSkidmore: and keep refreshing. [06:11]
dbtidjorey: only what? [06:11]
jorey"only the top 200?" [06:11]
dbtidand yes, it's dead: there haven't been any new posts in a looooooooong time.
and it makes me sad
dbtid sads
[06:11]
joreyyeah, that's a pity
well, there were a very few new posts a few years ago, 2-3 i think
but there were a few quiet years before that and ever since
[06:12]
SirSkidmorejorey: well I mean there are 4400 quotes pending [06:12]
dbtid4345
not enough to round up to 4400
SirSkidmore: do we need to send you back to 4th grade math???
[06:13]
SirSkidmoreoops
totally saw that as 4845
[06:13]
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jrickbash.org is probably pining for the fjords [06:14]
dbtidhttp://bash.org/?287414
story of pete
[06:15]
BryceBotBash.org: "Quote #287414" [06:15]
SirSkidmoredbtid: yeah that's in the top 100 I think [06:16]
Neiwhy doesnt BryceBot just read us the quote
mhm. might be too long I guess
[06:16]
joreybecause some are *long* [06:16]
Neicould show the first line tho [06:16]
joreyto remind us who spent lots of time reading bash quotes of them without having to open the link?) [06:17]
Nei:D [06:17]
SirSkidmorehttp://bash.org/?44584
>.>
[06:18]
BryceBotBash.org: "Quote #44584" [06:18]
SirSkidmorewould have been so much faster just to fix the typo >.> [06:19]
dbtiddon't get it. [06:19]
jrick*whoosh* [06:19]
BryceBotBye jrick! [06:19]
dbtidbye
back to work!!
[06:19]
SirSkidmoreI think instead of fixing the typo he just added a footnote thing [06:19]
joreySirSkidmore: especially with BryceBot. [06:20]
jrickit would be like me just typing something and then I tpyo[1] a word somewhere [06:21]
jorey[1]typo [06:21]
jrickthanks [06:21]
joreyyou're welcome. [06:21]
SirSkidmoreugh
I put in a request to get a visual studio key at work on monday and after several followups have heard nothing back
so probably another day without doing much
[06:26]
dbtidwhee! [06:28]
bcallahSirSkidmore: no blog posts! [06:29]
joreyi forgot whether you're in college or not. if you are, check whether you can get one via msdnaa
(if you terribly need it and you can't get one from your employer)
[06:29]
SirSkidmorejorey: they don't one using a student license for work stuff
bcallah: I thought I pushed them up last night?
hmm
weird
[06:30]
bcallahnegative [06:31]
SirSkidmoreoh
my rsync must not have worked
[06:32]
joreySirSkidmore: right. nevermind me, i derped. [06:33]
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qbithalla [06:57]
dbtidqbit: o/
time for more coffee
[07:00]
CyLOkay folks, I'm seeking for some advice, I haven't played video games in like 15 to 20 years, but now I'm looking forward to buy something with motion sensor, mainly to have fun with GF and her kid. Any advice on platforms and/or games? [07:01]
zod000Cyl: motion sensor ala WiiU, Kinect, etc? [07:02]
CyLzod000: Yep, sorry I don't know how this accessories are actually called.
zod000: Something with 3D would also be nice, I guess.
[07:02]
zod000CyL: nearly all of them are tied to their respective platform. nintendo makes the Wii and WiiU, Microsoft makes the Kinect for xbox, and Sony makes the Move
I haven't seen a general purpose model for an open platform like PC that i would recommend yet
[07:03]
CyLzod000: Never heard of Move before, wasn't it playstation that Sony made? [07:04]
zod000zentrified: the Move is Son'y Wii-like attachment
err CyL
sorry zentrified
[07:04]
CyLzod000: Okay I get it. [07:04]
zod000CyL: I happen to have Wii and the Move, and I rarely use either
I personally do not care for them, I got the Wii for the family, and they never use it sadly
[07:04]
CyLzod000: What about the number of games, specially for younger players like my gf's daughter (5 y/o), and for playing with whole family [07:05]
dbtidzod000: o/ [07:05]
zod000I got the move because it was 90% off and came with two games and some machinegun like attachment. it was worth getting just to play House of the Dead with friends while drinking, but I haven't enjoyed it with much else
o
[07:06]
CyLzod000: I get it... [07:06]
zod000CyL: the kinect is different, no controller, just a motion sensor
great for dance games, but as it lacks any sort of button, it is the most limited imp
imo
it does so a lot of voice activated stuff some people love
[07:06]
CyLzod000: Good to know about that. So the Move actually has a controller of some kind?
zod000: Unfortunatelly I believe that would be more for English...
[07:07]
zod000CyL: yes, the Move is a controller and camera combo
the controllers are bluetooth just like the ps3 controllers
it is ps3 only though
[07:07]
CyLOh okay
zod000: Do you have kids?
[07:08]
zod000well, technically you could probably hack something for pc, but i know of only preliminary stuff
CyL: yes, three
[07:08]
SirSkidmorebcallah: fixed. [07:08]
CyLzod000: Any of them in same same age range as mine? [07:09]
zod000CyL: how old are yours?
CyL: mine are 1.5, 5, and 14
[07:09]
CyLzod000: I don't have kids of my own. I was actually refering to my gf's daughter, since most of the time I'm the closest of a father she haves. She is 5.
zod000: So, at the age of 5, what's the hype besides Monster High? Specially in the electronic entertainment area (something that would gather the family together).
zod000: She is craving for a tablet, but everytime she has got one in her hands, it's like she's hipnotized or in some other universe.
[07:09]
qbitdbtid: o
how goes ?
[07:13]
dbtidCyL: be careful about that. we carefully regulate our kids' time on those things.
qbit: o/
dude!
i'm good. how are you?
[07:13]
qbitdoing good
gettin tired of all these snakes on these mother fuckin planes
[07:13]
dbtidoh? [07:14]
zod000CyL: my 5 year old doesn't like playing the motion games or console much, she loves her tablet though [07:14]
dbtiddid you pet snake collection get loose again? [07:14]
CyLdbtid: Thanks for your adivce, we take a lot of care about it tough. I'm the only one in the house with a smartphone, and I won't give it to her. She only play those thing eventually.
zod000: The problem with tablets is that it splits the family, not gather it together.
[07:14]
dbtidsame with smartphones [07:15]
CyLdbtid: Yep. Any advice on this? [07:16]
zod000CyL: well sure, and maybe your family differs a lot from mine, but finding an activity for the entire family (or nearly) to do and actually getting them all to do it is a rare occasion [07:16]
SirSkidmoreyeah... my 12 year old brother is constantly staring at a screen [07:16]
CyLSirSkidmore: I'm constantly staring at screen as well. And also tmux... [07:16]
zod000CyL: i have better luck with getting people to play a board game than anything else [07:17]
SirSkidmoreand even when his friends come over, they never do anything. They don't talk or play games. They're just browsing Vine/Twitter/Youtube and occasionally showing each other a video
it's awkward to be around
[07:17]
zod000SirSkidmore: sad
we have an anti-tablet/phone rule if my daughters friends are over
[07:17]
SirSkidmorezod000: yeah. I have 6 or 7 designer board games that after I convinced my friends to try are all hooked on. It's what we usually do [07:17]
zod000she can do that when they aren't here, and they can do that at home [07:17]
SirSkidmorebetween the 5 or 6 people in my freind group we probably have 20-30 games we rotate [07:18]
zod000SirSkidmore: nice! [07:18]
SirSkidmorezod000: yeah! [07:18]
zod000the only game we regularly play is cards agaisnt humanity [07:18]
kusuriyahaha I had to read this signature twice, this indian support agent is calling himself Murrica [07:18]
SirSkidmoreuggggg
zod000: hate that
[07:18]
zod000my wife won't play most board games with me anymore [07:18]
CyLzod000: We play them a lot. But she is very, very active, and I thought something that made her move and entertain would be nice. Unfortunatelly we don't have any neighbour kids, so she only have contact with kids while at school. [07:18]
zod000SirSkidmore: we have a great time with it [07:18]
SirSkidmorezod000: my friends never wanted to play Battlestar Galactice the board game, but then I convinced them to try it finally, and they all got hooked on board games
haha
zod000: it just gets stale quicky.
[07:19]
CyLzod000: Because she is competitive? [07:19]
zod000SirSkidmore: well, we don't play it THAT often, and we have all the expansion packs and made our own cards
CyL: no, because she isn't and I am a lot better at them.
[07:19]
SirSkidmorehitler jokes always win for person a, black jokes always win for person b; "jerking off into a pool of childrent's tears: good to the last drop" is only funny so many times
zod000: we play Battlestar, Pandemic, Russian Railroads, and Louis and Clark a lot
[07:20]
CyLWTF, board games are a universe appart, never heard of these [07:21]
zod000SirSkidmore: yeah my wife and her friends will never play those, and my friends might, but once we reach a certain beer level, it will fall apart [07:21]
SirSkidmoreCyL: yeah.. they're "designer" board games [07:21]
bcallahSirSkidmore: CURL?!?!?
why would you use curl?
ftp works better and is in base
[07:21]
zod000zod000 curls some weights [07:21]
SirSkidmorebcallah: Okay; will edit [07:21]
zod000what's wrong with curl? [07:21]
bcallahit's not in case
base
[07:21]
CyLhttp://www.justlia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/cara-a-cara001.jpg <-- that's what I usually play with her, she loves it [07:22]
bcallahalso, after you've used aria2 you'll never want to go back to curl [07:22]
CyLhttp://isuba.s8.com.br/produtos/01/00/item/111703/7/111703711SZ.jpg <-- and that's the closets resemblant of a video game we ever play together [07:22]
zod000bcallah: that is way heavier than what i need, I use curl to do what i could get done wit hwget, but a little better
CyL: i play arcade games with my daughter
[07:23]
bcallahzod000: torrent and magnet links [07:23]
zod000like TMNT, golden axe, magic sword, battletoads, etc [07:24]
CyLzod000: Arcade games, like the one with a little steel ball?
zod000: Oh, like those..
[07:24]
bcallahzod000: I saw a 4-player 1CC of Ninja Baseball Batman the other day [07:24]
zod000CyL: well i have one of these http://www.xgaming.com/store/arcade-joysticks-and-game-controllers/product/x-arcade-dual-joystick/ [07:24]
bcallahwas hilariously awesome [07:24]
jrickso much fun seeing dev teams argue about coding style [07:25]
zod000those games work well because i can do most of the actual work she she thinks she is doing well
heh
[07:25]
bcallah(also, technically you should cp /bsd.rd to /obsd.rd
)
[07:25]
kylcoding style is more important than the code itself [07:25]
bcallahthat way you can still boot off a ramdisk if you need [07:25]
CyLzod000: Nice. [07:26]
SirSkidmorebcallah: fixed [07:26]
zod000that controller also does well for the "twin stick" games like smash tv [07:26]
CyLzod000: It's really nice looking and sounds great, but I'm kind of reluctant of getting something that would put me on a chair or sofa [07:27]
zod000CyL: i have it at a tall desk so it is the same height (more or less) as a real arcade machine [07:28]
SirSkidmorebcallah: Did I miss anything for the setup? There was about 2 days between me installing and writing the post. [07:28]
zod000i play on building an arcade cabinet to hold it
CyL: but yes, certainly not for everyone
[07:28]
SirSkidmoreI thought I wrote most of it down so I wouldn't forget, but I feel like I missed something [07:29]
CyLzod000, dbtid: thanks for you rnice advice folks, I'm still kind of learning how to deal with kids
Got to go, time for lunch.
[07:30]
zod000cya CyL [07:31]
bcallahThere's no way you could have installed msttcorefonts from packages (there is no package for it). [07:33]
SirSkidmoreoops
typo
[07:33]
bcallahand the reason to cp /bsd.rd /obsd.rd is in case something's wrong with /bsd.rd and for need the old ramdisk for something
i.e. download corruption
[07:33]
SirSkidmoreI even put that there weren't any packages haha [07:34]
bcallahbut in practice, it's probably not necessary
just something I tend to do
[07:34]
qbitwtf [07:34]
bcallahsince I blow it all away with a clean install anyway [07:34]
qbitbcallah: you runnin the latest amd64 snap? [07:34]
bcallahnope
you?
[07:34]
qbitssh-add seems to have shit the bed [07:34]
bcallahpsure that's already known [07:35]
qbitqbit reads some email [07:35]
SirSkidmoreso technically, you don't need to download the bsd.rd from the new arch either? [07:35]
bcallahalso, if you have inet access and can watch video from where you are...
twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda
the game they're playing is Metal Wolf Chaos
it's hilarious
[07:36]
qbityer hilarious! [07:37]
bcallaham [07:38]
SirSkidmorebcallah: okay. Hopefully it's all fixed now [07:38]
pirokoGetting new tires for the fr-s today. Excited [07:45]
qbitrad
new tires rock
it's like a new car
[07:52]
lteohow much space does the fr-s have in the back for big car seats? [07:54]
SirSkidmorehmm [07:54]
jrickthey advertise it as having enough space for your tires [07:54]
SirSkidmore13 minutes remiaing for a 20mb zip file >.> [07:54]
qbittire-babies [07:57]
dbtidlteo: o/ [08:06]
lteodbtid: o [08:06]
jricklteo: you should get a hot hatch instead [08:07]
bryceclolololteo asking about space for a car seat in a sportster [08:09]
dbtidi think you should buy an Escalade ESV
your kids will love it
[08:10]
brycecESV - Extra Slutty Version? East-Siiiide Version? Extremely Sordid Version? [08:15]
jrickextra slutty version was always my favorite bible transalation [08:16]
lteojrick: what?? you're not a KJV fundie??!
brycec: would be fun to drive around with a souped up sportster with big spoilers and all, and with huge car seats in the back seat
[08:17]
zod000jrick: "And Moses said 'Met my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'"
s/Met/Let/
[08:20]
BryceBot<zod000> jrick: "And Moses said 'Let my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'" [08:20]
zod000zod000 is not familar with that passage [08:20]
SirSkidmorezod000: obviosuly it's in Cinton 5:11 [08:23]
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lteoi keep mistyping postgresql as potsgresql [08:51]
qbitheh
lteo: i often type "postgisql"
[08:54]
eestlteo: can you imagine running a website using postgresql _and_ lighttpd :P [09:00]
dvl_I often type fuck you, when I mean, oh? [09:01]
lteoheh i'm the other way round
dvl_: oh
[09:02]
dvl_Every 'whatever' has a little bit of 'fuck you'. [09:03]
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lteodvl_: whatever man ;) [09:07]
qbitwhat. ever.
man.
SirSkidmore: you use manifest?
[09:08]
pirokolteo: FR-S has enough room for car seats [09:10]
qbitnice [09:11]
pirokoI actually just rode in the back of a brz on my way back from the tire place. If I can fit, a car seat can fit [09:11]
qbitagreein [09:11]
dbtidESV == Extra Sweet Version [09:13]
qbitew
sweet and meat don't go imo :D
[09:13]
dbtidso you want Extra Sweet Vagina?
i can say that word here, right?
no underage kids here?
[09:14]
jrick80 character line length limit: the greatest foe of concurrent code [09:15]
qbitlol
dbtid: think you can
:D
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kusuriyaluckily for you the 80 char limit isnt part of the spec unlike SMTP headers :P [09:35]
SirSkidmoreqbit: ? [09:48]
qbitSirSkidmore: https://github.com/gigamonkey/manifest [09:50]
SirSkidmoreqbit: no
I don't do a ton of CL
I've done quite a bit of scheme
[09:50]
qbitscheme on my friend ;D [09:52]
SirSkidmoreit's what my school teaches [09:52]
qbitnice
you use stumpwm ya?
[09:52]
SirSkidmoreyeah
FUCK
forgot I had a ADN developer account tied to my paypal
just overdrafterd hard
[09:59]
mcchunkieTWSS! [10:00]
brycecWhy do you hate ADN so much? Are you trying to bankrupt them??? [10:00]
SirSkidmorebrycec: wait
what
and my paypal was tied to my old bank acct #
[10:00]
brycecClearly you're trying to short ADN their money. [10:01]
SirSkidmoreso I have no money
and it takes 2-3 days for it to appear in my new bank so I can transfer money over
well
crap
this is an expensive mistake
a $70 mistake...
[10:01]
brycecMan, why doesn't nmap scan ipv6 ranges? It's not like the smallest subnet is undectillion addresses or anything.
18446744073709551616 isn't that many, is it?
@wa 18446744073709551616
[10:02]
BryceBot18446744073709551616;1.8446744073709551616 × 10^19;18 quintillion ...;18 billion billion ...;20 decimal digits;10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000_2;2^64;m->2->3->4->5->6->7->8->9, 18 446 744 ... 551 616 mod m->0->1->0->1->4->2->0->7;18446744073709551616 is an even number.;18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power.;A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible with straightedge and compass. [10:02]
brycec"A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible" this sentence seems false. [10:03]
bcallahbcallah hands brycec a straightedge and compass
only one way to find out!
[10:05]
brycecbrycec kiks self
*kills
[10:05]
dbtidgrrr
these guys broke this damn web page
now everything is going to be more difficult
[10:06]
brycec"18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power" gee no kidding, Wolframalpha :D [10:07]
SirSkidmorebrycec: did you want to play with the ADN api?
I can let you use this account
I don't want it to go to waste
[10:09]
brycecSirSkidmore: that's generous, thank you. I actually found dalton's (I think) api-lite stuff [10:10]
SirSkidmoreduerigs [10:10]
brycecYeah
knew it was a d
[10:10]
SirSkidmoredo you want a full API? [10:10]
brycec(and then I forgot about the project altogether) [10:10]
SirSkidmoreI'd hate to see this all go to waste [10:10]
dbtidOF FOR FUCK'S SAKE! WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?! IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!!
s/OF/OH/
[10:11]
BryceBot<dbtid> OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE! WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?! IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!! [10:11]
qbitSirSkidmore: doooh [10:11]
brycecWow that's saying something, dbtid [10:11]
dbtidi can get to doc.opensuse.com but not www.google.com
WTF!?
[10:11]
brycecSince FF's proxy configs are >>> than Chrome's [10:11]
SirSkidmoreqbit: yeah
I'm kind of mad at myself
I was planning on closing this account today too >.>
[10:12]
dbtidyeah, well, they're not working now. [10:12]
SirSkidmoreand while I'm at it, let me go change over my papypal info [10:12]
dbtidSirSkidmore: post it here so we can help you. [10:12]
qbitSirSkidmore: glad it happened tho - reminded me to drop my dev account ;D [10:12]
brycecbrycec is still waiting for ADN integration into Bitlbee [10:13]
SirSkidmoreI'm kind of really sad to see adn on a sudden decline :/ [10:13]
brycec>.>
<.<
[10:13]
dbtidthis is nuts [10:13]
brycecs/this is/I am/ [10:13]
BryceBot<dbtid> I am nuts [10:13]
dbtidi can get to several pages, but not ones i really need.
i can get to openbsd.org and linux-wireless.org
can't get to yahoo.com google.com or a few other sites.
[10:14]
brycecdbtid: does FF give an error message? something useful? [10:14]
dbtidFF isn't useful for anything anymore.
no. it says nothing.
[10:14]
brycecSo it's just a blank page? [10:14]
dbtidit says "Waiting for <websitenamehere>..."
has no problem with some sites
[10:15]
brycecWhat type of proxy? [10:15]
dbtidi go over to my windows machine (granted, on another network, but goes through the same upper layers) and have no problems.
i don't know the brand.
[10:15]
brycechttp? socks? [10:15]
dbtidhttp [10:16]
brycecdbtid: do you have an https proxy set? [10:16]
dbtid/etc/sysconfig/proxy contains HTTP_PROXY HTTPS_PROXY and FTP_PROXY all set to the same value. [10:16]
brycecevery site you aren't able to hit is one on the auto-https list [10:16]
dbtidchrome has no problem using these
i tell FF to use the system proxies.
[10:16]
brycecso try setting them manually? [10:16]
dbtidah
no
i didn't hit the check mark to say use all the same
ok here's what's happening
if i tell ff to use the system settings, it fails
[10:17]
SirSkidmorewell [10:17]
dbtidif i set it manually and say "use all" it works [10:17]
SirSkidmorethis sucks >.> [10:18]
dbtidit works now
but seriously. that sucked.
[10:18]
brycec(A bunch of relevant, but useless google hits for the issue) [10:19]
dbtidok, so this site i'm using (an internal site) has some untrusted scripts, which chrome refuses to say anything about, but when used with FF, FF actually prompts and then lets me run the scripts.
so that's one thing FF lets me do that chrome won't
now le's see if all this infrastructure BS we pay for will work.
[10:20]
brycecI'm a fan of Chrome's approach - don't confuse the idiots and keep them reasonably secure. Devs know to look in the console for errors. [10:28]
jrickhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/golang-nuts/sN6BFoli5GE [10:28]
brycec(Anything to keep from confusing the stupid users) [10:28]
jrickwtf [10:28]
SirSkidmore"Y'know, every time I see that word, I think about the pieces of paper that floated around my Brooklyn garden one horrible September afternoon."
I kind of know where he's going with that
I just don't care
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dbtidoh this software just suck
s
we have indirect access to the customer machines
so i tell it to take a script containing 'ps auxw > /tmp/psuaxw.txt' and put it in /tmp and then run it on upload.
then i tell it to give me /tmp/psuaxw.txt
does it do it?
NO!?
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SirSkidmorejrick: that man is an idiot [10:33]
jrickmakes for fun lunch reading though [10:33]
SirSkidmore"In some cases it is easy to perceive where a word might contain a negative or disturbing association - hijack is just such a word. **Especially** after Sep 11." [10:34]
dbtidagreed: what an idiot [10:34]
SirSkidmorewow, even Rob Pike stepped in [10:34]
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dbtidfun stuff [10:36]
SirSkidmoreyeah, he's just going to wrap the method so he never has to think about it again >.> [10:38]
jricksomeone tell him the compiler is inlining his wrapper so he's still calling Hijack [10:38]
brycec@golang
>.>
[10:39]
BryceBot"I believe Go is actively harming the software industry by providing a very incapable tool for building working software, yet it’s presented as a real alternative. I do not think it’s responsible to let others get introduced to such silliness." https://lobste.rs/s/gw0wsx/why_i_m_not_going_to_stop_posting_go_links/comments/rbkqse [10:39]
brycecslowbot is slow [10:39]
SirSkidmorewell that was a hugely fun thread to read [10:41]
dbtidthe Chris dude seems like an asshole :) [10:42]
SirSkidmoreholy crap
qbit: you're like the 8th person on the lobste.rs user tree
huh
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qbit:D [10:46]
SirSkidmoreand kyl is a moderator [10:46]
qbitmy uid is 4 [10:47]
yrmthai [10:47]
qbithowdie yrmt [10:47]
zod000jrick: that Go "hijack" thread was beyond rediculous. Makes me want to fly a plane into his browser
too soon?
[10:48]
yrmtmy devious shell account can't handle pkgsrc :( [10:48]
SirSkidmorezod000: nope
I laughed
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zod000:D
SirSkidmore: o/
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jrickzod000: i loled too [10:49]
zod000SirSkidmore: yeah qbit is like a proto-human of the lobster world [10:49]
kylkyl gets to do a greenfield C project [10:50]
zod000i like that you can see the user tree and who invited who [10:50]
qbit"the gateway to devious"
er for?
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SirSkidmorezod000: o [10:51]
qbitfuggin lol http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/06/fleshlight-launchpad
the ad
omg the ad
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dbtidassume NSFW? [10:51]
zod000haha [10:51]
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qbityea
there isn't much nsfw
just fleshlights bouncing around
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jrickeverything is sfw when you work from home [10:53]
qbittruth [10:54]
SirSkidmoreI kind of want to click
but I totally shouldn't
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lteoclick first, think later [10:58]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore prefers to think firs ona work machine
s/sw/st/
shoot
how do you mark the end of a word
I guess that would have matched the s in prefers too
SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx though
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qbittr/[:upper:]/[:lower:]/ [11:05]
BryceBot>>> SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx tholgh [11:05]
qbittr/[::upper::]/[::lower::]/ [11:05]
BryceBot>>> SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx tholgh [11:05]
qbitqbit rage quits [11:05]
brycecnope
qbit: not supported by php
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qbittr/[a-z]/[A-Z]/ [11:05]
BryceBot<brycec> QBIT: NOT SUPPORTED BY PHP [11:05]
brycecThe only reason ^^ is supported is because I implemented the range-expansion.
http://us1.php.net/strtr
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qbitsnap
ribo: sounds like ODESZA has some Tribe called Red in thar: https://soundcloud.com/odesza/no-sleep-mix-05
[11:06]
BryceBotSoundCloud: "NO.SLEEP - Mix.05 by ODESZA" by ODESZA [11:07]
qbitor what ever TCR sampled :D [11:07]
brycec(for those wondering what that consists of http://sprunge.us/BKfI)
Ribo's not here, maaaaan
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dbtid"Download a file to this asset" and "Upload a file from this asset"
those are just wrong.
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qbitass et
brycec: Y U NO OPEN SOURCE?
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dbtidi've been doing communications stuff like that since 1983. [11:09]
brycecqbit: working on it in my limited spare time. [11:09]
dbtid"upload to" and "download from" [11:09]
brycecqbit: I don't work for Oracle, I don't have 9 hour conference calls during which i can fuck around
brycec feels about ready or ragequit this job anyways
[11:10]
qbithttp://dailycurrant.com/2014/06/27/63-of-americans-think-belgium-is-a-beer-company
made me lol
brycec: if you open source it... we can all work on it :D
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brycecyeah yeah, qbit
but before I release it, there's cleanup to be done.
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lteotwhs [11:12]
SirSkidmorelteo++ [11:13]
dbtiddbtid offers brycec some tissues for his hygiene. [11:15]
qbitgoodguy dbtid [11:15]
kylqbit: they make whiskey too?
or wines
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zod000qbit: bahaha
begium should become a beer company
nationalize all those breweries
take over the beery world from ambev
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qbitlol [11:38]
elaloits friday [11:38]
lteo*it's [11:38]
dbtidanyone here familiar with Axeda? [11:38]
elalolteo: its friday. get off my back! [11:38]
jrickthe week's friday
its friday
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elalowill it be a tequila friday or a gin friday? [11:39]
dbtidelalo: *it's* [11:39]
kylscotch [11:39]
dbtid*it's*
*it's*
*it's*
*it's*
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tmrdis the server offline? [11:39]
dbtid*it's* [11:39]
elaloscotch makes me angry :( [11:39]
dbtidit's not [11:39]
kylhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=063jQAM6N8I [11:39]
elaloburbon makes me loveable [11:39]
BryceBotYouTube Comedy: "The It's-man & Intros of Monty Python's Flying Circus" by RobbySpry (9m 57s), 49,210 views, 265 likes and 3 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-11T22:08:26.000Z. [11:39]
lteoelalo: how about crotch? [11:39]
dbtidelalo: *bourbon [11:39]
kyllteo: gonna see how everyone likes my yoda conditionals [11:40]
elaloelalo intentionally misspells all teh words [11:40]
lteokylol [11:40]
dbtidlike them they will not [11:40]
lteokyl: you should make it yoda exim style: if (1 = = x) [11:40]
kylhaha
I did
on accident on one of them
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lteo@lod [11:41]
BryceBotಠ_ಠ [11:41]
dbtidi always write my conditional that use constant with the constant on the left [11:41]
kylexcept it was (1 = =x) [11:41]
lteowhoa
dbtid: example?
[11:41]
kyldbtid: aka yoda conditionals?
if (TSS_RESULT == tpm->res) { ERRROROROROROROROR; }
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dbtidlteo: if (0 < x) printf ("x is positiven");
i don't know how long they've been called yoda conditionals.
[11:42]
lteowow. mind blown [11:42]
dbtidi've been writing code that way for a long time (original code -- if i'm patching someone's code, i will follow what they've done).
i actually had one "engineer" complain because of that.
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lteolteo complains [11:43]
dbtidi told him it prevents common mistakes in C
dbtid tases lteo
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elaloyoda conditionals are the win. protect yourself against forgetting to include the constant! [11:43]
lteoblown is mind. [11:43]
dbtid^my^ [11:43]
elaloblown my mind is. [11:43]
tmrdapparently it's only down for me, according to isup.me [11:44]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore apparently just missed a lot [11:45]
dbtidthese fuckers wrote all this bullshit in perl [11:45]
tmrdbrycec: can you unban me: 64.71.8.10 [11:46]
kyldbtid: I just like to have everything explode during _compilation_ v. runtime if I accidentally assign a const [11:47]
jrickassign a const wut [11:48]
kylI guess I only do it for equality checks [11:48]
dbtidkyl: exactly
kyl: do it for all conditionals -- blown will be their minds.
e.g. if i leave off the < or > or ! i end up with the expression 'constant = variable' and i'm still safe.
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CyL@wiki yoda conditionals [11:50]
BryceBotYoda conditions :: In programming jargon, Yoda conditions (also called Yoda notation) is a programming style where the two parts of an expression are reversed from the typical order in a conditional statement. A yoda condition places the constant portion of the expression on the left side of the conditional statement. The name for this programming style is derived from the Star Wars... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoda%20conditions [11:50]
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dbtidcreated in May of 2103
err
created in May of 2013
sorry. i accidentally slipped there.
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lteos/y s/y nip-/ [11:52]
BryceBot<dbtid> sorry. i accidentally nip-lipped there. [11:52]
dbtidi forgot that when i was in the future and first wrote that.
lteo: nice try
but you missed
dbtid tases lteo
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jricks/se/ste/ [11:52]
BryceBot>>> dbtid tastes lteo [11:52]
dbtiddbtid is really happy to have the fast recharge taser model
jrick: >:
dbtid shoots jrick with a rail gun
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jrickwell at least one of you enjoys it [11:53]
dbtidjrick: oh, lteo *loves* to be tased. [11:53]
lteowow is it me or the new generation of programmers don't get Makefiles [11:54]
jrickI don't get why you'd want a makefile either
get a decent toolchain
[11:54]
elaloautotools has spoiled them
now everyone with $100 haircuts is coding in golang without worrying about the implications of their work!
elalo gets angry all over again
[11:56]
jrickyes every go programmer uses autotools [11:57]
qbitand has 100$ haircuts :D [11:58]
kylkyl uses autotools
and is a go programmer
>.>
<.<
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jrickTIL kyl is every go programmer [12:00]
kylliterally [12:00]
jrickthat would make you literally hitler [12:00]
qbitbasho [12:00]
mcchunkieweathered bones
just thinking of the wind
it pierces my body
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elalosince when did mcchunkie become vegan [12:00]
kylyesterday [12:02]
dbtiddbtid rocks to Bryan Adams. [12:02]
kyltypical [12:04]
SirSkidmorewtf mcchunkie [12:04]
qbitwut [12:04]
jrickprotip? [12:05]
mcchunkiecccccwjioiojwfeiojfweijowefijoefw89u2389u23908u [12:05]
SirSkidmoresince when does she know poetry? [12:05]
elalos/mcchunkie/dbtid/ [12:05]
BryceBot<SirSkidmore> wtf dbtid [12:05]
SirSkidmorelol mcchunkie
I'll always remember that protip
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dbtidwtf elalo
wtf wtf
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qbitSirSkidmore: always [12:06]
dbtidSirSkidmore: no, never always. just never. [12:06]
kylotip?
brotip?
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mcchunkieirssi segfaults on 5.4 if you do /last on an icb channel [12:06]
kylbrotip? [12:06]
mcchunkietrust is weaksauce [12:06]
qbitnotbad [12:06]
dbtidqbit: mcchunkie needs a lobotomy [12:07]
qbithow come? [12:07]
dbtidmcchunkie is weaksause [12:07]
qbitwat [12:08]
SirSkidmoreprotip
protip?
[12:08]
mcchunkiethe best coding font is comic sans. [12:08]
SirSkidmorelol
protip?
[12:08]
mcchunkieBritish Columbia is best Columbia [12:08]
dbtidthe database is full of nonsense
Colombia is the best Columbia
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SirSkidmore@rms [12:10]
BryceBotRichard Stallman says: I never imagined that the Free Software Movement would spawn a watered-down alternative, the Open Source Movement, which would become so well-known that people would ask me questions about 'open source' thinking that I work under that banner. [12:10]
dbtidyeah. who could confuse those? [12:11]
elalorms: porting non-free software to an OS is bad! but porting a free compiler to a non-free OS is good! [12:12]
SirSkidmoredoes stallman sound like a preacher at talks?
because in my head
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elalosirskidmore: a homeless preacher. with no followers. [12:15]
SirSkidmoreI just imagine him dressed in the church of emacs getup shouting at people and sprinking water on people [12:15]
qbitso far that's the only thing i don't like about emacs [12:18]
SirSkidmoreqbit: rms? [12:19]
qbitGPLv3 [12:19]
SirSkidmoreohhh
I still think it would be really cool to see an actual clojure implementation of emacs
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qbitin teh jvm? [12:21]
SirSkidmoreyeah [12:21]
qbitnot sure i can support that [12:21]
SirSkidmoredon't you work for oracle?
aren't you supposed to <3 java?
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qbit>.>
<.<
[12:22]
SirSkidmorejust saying...
but I agree
I think I non-GPL emacs would be great
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dbtidwrite one and call it "scam" [12:24]
kyleewwwww clojuremacs
racketmacs would be cool though
or one that uses cl
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SirSkidmorekyl: that would actually be a lot of fun
<3 scheme
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CosmiCruzkyl!!! <3
qbit!!! <3
SirSkidmore: o/
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SirSkidmoreo [12:26]
qbitCosmiCruz: o/ [12:26]
CosmiCruzhow's it going, SirSkidmore? [12:26]
qbitsup mang [12:26]
SirSkidmoreIt's going [12:26]
CosmiCruzqbit: o
not much, mr qbit
[12:26]
SirSkidmorejust ready to go home, you know [12:26]
CosmiCruzSirSkidmore: you're at work or something? [12:26]
SirSkidmoreCosmiCruz: yeah [12:26]
CosmiCruzawesome o/ [12:27]
SirSkidmoreCosmiCruz: meh
:D
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CosmiCruz:P
what's going on at work, SirSkidmore?
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SirSkidmorekyl: have you read little schemer/reasoned schemer/seasoned schemer?
CosmiCruz: absolutely nothing at all
[12:30]
CosmiCruzSirSkidmore: you should start the harlem shake at your office. [12:31]
SirSkidmoreuh
no
[12:31]
CosmiCruzwell, you gotta do something fun, I think
troll your neighbors?
[12:31]
qbitCosmiCruz: radical [12:32]
CosmiCruzqbit: o/ [12:32]
qbitCosmiCruz++
all good ideas
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CosmiCruzlol [12:32]
SirSkidmoreCosmiCruz: I am in a cubicle by myself :( no one occupies the cubicles surronding me :( [12:32]
CosmiCruzSirSkidmore: oh :( [12:33]
SirSkidmoremy russian friend is across the way, but he's out of the office at the moemnt
I swear to god, there are people in this office who probably don't know if I speak English
I only talk to Mikhail in Russian, ha
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CosmiCruzdo you? [12:33]
SirSkidmoreyes [12:33]
CosmiCruz:P [12:33]
elalosirskidmore: that sounds like paradise
a quiet place to get work done
[12:35]
CosmiCruzor to IRC, amirite [12:35]
SirSkidmoreCosmiCruz: 100% right
CosmiCruz: o/
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CosmiCruzo [12:35]
elalopyezdetz [12:40]
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SirSkidmoreelalo: yeahh... I can't really figure out russian that's written in Roman [12:47]
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joreyhttps://twitter.com/trevorpaglen/status/482595956752670722 [12:58]
BryceBotTWITTER: Go! @EFF: It's true. EFF and @Greenpeace flew a 135 ft. airship over Utah NSA data center https://eff.org/r.kzpb http://t.co/OfO7Qabcam" (Fri Jun 27 18:46:56 +0000 2014, retweeted 14 times) [12:58]
zod000if donating to the EFF got you free zepplin flights over the NSA data center, they'd have tons more donations
until they get shot down anyway
heh
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joreyi'd donate if that would get me shot down. hell, i should go to detroit, i can probably get shot there for free! [13:00]
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zod000jorey: your desire to get shot is intriguing. I stive to remain unshot as long as I can [13:01]
dbtid*strive
jorey: your odd desire to get shot could help a lot of people practice their marksmanship.
jorey: i fully endorse this pursuit.
jorey: have at it and good luck!
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zod000dbtid: well if he isn't dodging, i won't help as much [13:02]
joreyi can pretend to dodge [13:02]
zod000haha [13:02]
dbtidPew Research Center: if you're proud to be an American, you're probably not a liberal. [13:02]
joreydbtid: thanks! [13:02]
dbtidjorey: sure. anytime we tackle a large undertaking, we need support. [13:03]
elalosirskidmore: it means 'we're totally utterly fucked' but in russian the word is a derivative of the russian word for clitoris.
so the translation is approximate.
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joreyso.. FUBAR? :p [13:07]
elalobingo [13:07]
joreyelalo: what's the word? [13:07]
elalowell all i know is the phonetic spelling using english letters. [13:07]
joreyah [13:07]
elalopyezdyetz.
developing software with ukrainians is fun.
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kylheh
after Go's switch statements, C's switches are meh
[13:12]
Neiat least it has switches! [13:12]
jrickafter rust's match expressions, statements are meh [13:13]
Neialso need to keep in mind what it translates to [13:13]
kylassuming matches are the pattern matching pretty much every functional language has had forever? [13:13]
Neiin C I know I get a nice jump table [13:13]
kyla const uint8_t can't be used for a switch [13:13]
kusuriya_hmm now I have a hard choice to make [13:13]
kylwhereas in Go
it would be
s/w/c/
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BryceBot<kyl> it could be [13:13]
elaloSirskidmore: пиздец == fubar [13:14]
SirSkidmoreokay [13:14]
zod000kusuriya_: what choice? [13:14]
SirSkidmoresee, I recognize that [13:14]
kusuriya_I got a job offer to be an exchange admin for the defense language insitutie [13:14]
elalosirskidmore: it's also a very, very naughty word (as described above) [13:14]
SirSkidmoreright [13:14]
kusuriya_but that means I have to move to monterey CA in 3 weeks [13:14]
SirSkidmoreI know that one and хопа but that's really it [13:14]
zod000kusuriya_: I know you wanted to do something else, but a least it gets your out of a toxic workplace [13:15]
elalosiski == tits [13:15]
zod000s/your/you/ [13:15]
BryceBot<zod000> kusuriya_: I know you wanted to do something else, but a least it gets you out of a toxic workplace [13:15]
joreySirSkidmore: сука = whore. дурак = asshole/idiot (but more used in the sense of "fuck!" whe nsomething goes wrong)
SirSkidmore: you need to know those words!!!111111
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bcallahfuck! [13:16]
SirSkidmoreohhhh [13:16]
kusuriya_yeah but thats a quick move
thats 2 week notice + week to move
[13:16]
zod000kusuriya_: yeah, won't be easy [13:16]
SirSkidmoreyeah I know сука from playing DoTA2 a few times with Russian people [13:17]
zod000understatement in the least [13:17]
joreyhaha [13:17]
kusuriya_in theroy its really easy assuming I can find an apartment in a week [13:17]
zod000lol SirSkidmore [13:17]
elaloпиздец: russian noun to describe a worst case, which became even worse [13:17]
zod000kusuriya_: moving tends to suck no matter what [13:17]
kusuriya_id be closer to kyl i guess :P [13:17]
zod000that's a selling point if I'veever heard one
kyl raises select property values wherever he travels
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elalokyl: monterey is beautiful. overcast often. mild temperatures. [13:19]
zod000s/kyl/kusuriya_/ [13:19]
BryceBot<elalo> kusuriya_: monterey is beautiful. overcast often. mild temperatures. [13:19]
elaloyeah whoever ;) [13:19]
zod000:)
@weather 34653
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BryceBotNew Port Richey, FL: Thunderstorm ☈ 88°F (31°C), Humidity: 69%, Wind: From the WNW at 6.8 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=28.262777,-82.700165 or re-request this with: @weather -v 34653 [13:20]
zod000lies, it is over 90 and no clouds in the sky [13:20]
kusuriya_i know monterey is pretty
Lived there for a few years as a kid
and helped a buddy move there when he got selected to be an instructor of farsi at DLI
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elaloполный пиздец: worst case that became even worse, and is now completely FUBAR to the extent that it simply cannot be increased. [13:21]
kusuriya_i still like the idea of lumshevuk (sp?)
a word that has no translation but the idea is it is painful to the mind
[13:21]
joreySirSkidmore: there's another funny one, with a little story: i've always been close to a few russian families. anyways, this one friend of mine didn't really know russian all that well anymore, but his parents did. we were teenagers at the time and his mom wasn't pleased with something he did, so she started talking in russian and he was just like "yeah..whatever" until some point he looked confused, thought for a second and then asked her whether ...
... she really just said that.
SirSkidmore: what she said was "ёб твою мать!" which literally means something like "fuck your mother" or "i fucked your mother" or something, but it's a really general cussword as well, occasionally used when you're simply not happy with something someone did
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lteoarhhshsghahahah!!! [13:23]
joreySirSkidmore: and by no means /as/ offensive as it sounds. since he didn't know cause he didn't care about russian, he thought she meant it literally and got really confused :)
#walloftext #hashtagsinirc
#yoloswagforjesus
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elaloyou forgot 420 [13:24]
zod000@beerforpresident
err
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joreybeer++ [13:24]
zod000#beerforpresident
beer++
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SirSkidmorejorey: lol
beer++
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zod000soon it shall be beer time [13:25]
SirSkidmorestill have 35 minutes [13:25]
zod000exactly [13:25]
kusuriya_but yeah to I stay or go [13:25]
mianosmbeer thirty can't come fast enough [13:25]
mcchunkiethat's what she said! [13:25]
zod000mianosm++ [13:25]
lteolteo is trying to prevent a new program from descending into unmaintainable hell [13:26]
kusuriya_beer thirty started for me yesterday at 3 [13:26]
elaloshe had degenerative alcoholism [13:26]
joreyhttp://rlv.zcache.com/beer_thirty_watch-r01cfe6c521d54b3b9cad268fc58479fc_wmod9_8byvr_512.jpg [13:26]
zod000lteo: you cannot stop the tide [13:26]
lteoSTFU
i shall stop the tide!
[13:26]
zod000lteo: accept the entropy of the universe or be destroyed by it [13:26]
lteothis madness cannot continue
i don't get why do programmers tolreate this shite
[13:26]
zod000zod000 pictures lteo having his 'THIS IS SPARTA!' moment
kick that newbie programmer into a pit
lteo: some don't just tolerate it, they revel in it
[13:27]
joreyzod000: "fight in the shade" :( [13:28]
lteothe debugging messages clearly show the stuff is wrong
and yet, he thinks it's working well
what the fruit
[13:28]
bcallahlteo: how can a new program already be in danger of unmaintainable hell?
did you write it with crayon?
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zod000lteo: my favorite is the programmer that fixes bugs my throwing a try/catch around them and them moving on [13:28]
lteobcallah: when the new program gradually becomes not-so-new program [13:28]
zod000like hoping it will just go away [13:28]
lteozod000: let me guess, the catch is for the broadest exception there is? ;) [13:29]
joreyzod000: try{ ... } catch(Exception e){}? :) [13:29]
zod000jorey: yes
exactly
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joreygodlike [13:29]
zod000mother fuckers [13:29]
bcallahlteo: who's writing this program?
is this juniordev?
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CosmiCruzbcallah!!! <3
zod000!!! <3
<| L T E O |>
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pirokoCosmiCruz!!! <3 [13:30]
zod000CosmiCruz: o/ [13:30]
CosmiCruzpiroko!!! <3
o
how's everybody doing?
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pirokoo[13:31] <zod000> could be worse
YES I MEANT TO HIT MYSELF
I realized I utterly hate my pathetic existence working day in and day out staring at a computer screen for 40 hours a week
Other than that though I'm good
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bcallahso fucking tired... [13:32]
CosmiCruzpiroko: o/
bcallah: why is that? :(
[13:33]
bcallahlong week [13:33]
CosmiCruzmmm
yay, long week o/
[13:34]
lteoso hard to find people who just get it [13:36]
zod000piroko: i suggest beer/sex/fun over the weekend, in no particular order [13:37]
pirokozod000: that sounds like a great idea minus the beer. I'll take liquor tho [13:37]
CosmiCruzwhat's going on, mr lteo? [13:37]
zod000piroko: that is an acceptable substitute [13:37]
CosmiCruzliquor++
what's going on, mr zod000?
[13:37]
zod000jsut working
nothing fun
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CosmiCruzif only you're allowed to beer&&code at work [13:39]
BryceBotNew OpenBSD packages for i386! (Fri Jun 27 2014 01:08:53 GMT-0700(PDT)) [13:39]
CosmiCruzwhere'd everybody go? :( [13:44]
zod000CosmiCruz: you scared them off
heh
[13:44]
CosmiCruzI always do :(
lol
how's life outside of work and IRC, mr zod000?
[13:44]
zod000if i were still working in an office, i'd likely not be talkative this close to 5pm
CosmiCruz: shitty :(
work and irc are the high points
[13:45]
CosmiCruzoh :( [13:45]
zod000i don't particularly want to elaborate right now, but things are rough [13:45]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore hugs [13:46]
CosmiCruzCosmiCruz hugs too [13:46]
zod000thanks guys [13:46]
SirSkidmoreSirSkidmore doesn't let go [13:47]
zod000wait, what is this
its a trap!
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CosmiCruzit's an intervention
lolol... j/k
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SirSkidmorei was going to make it weird [13:47]
zod000zod000 feels like Admiral Ackbar [13:47]
SirSkidmorebut decided against it [13:47]
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zod000IT'S A TRP!
err
IT'S A TRP!
IT'S A TRAP!
fuck
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SirSkidmorelolololol [13:48]
Neinice trp [13:48]
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SirSkidmoreso what does KILLALLHUMANS01 do? [13:48]
zod000kill al "h1mans" (hymens?) [13:48]
SirSkidmoreKILLALLHUMANS01: o/
KILLALLH1MANS01: o/
aren't they bots?
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dvl_We're safe then. [13:48]
jrickI hate traps
that's why I do inline error handling
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CosmiCruzjrick!!! <3 [13:50]
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SirSkidmorealright
I'm heading home
bye
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zod000have a good weekend SirSkidmore
i am going to go try and have a beer before all hell breaks loose again here
have a good weekend all (not that I won't be around here)
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SirSkidmorezod000: I'm sure I'll be around some this weekend :D [13:59]
zod000zod000 waves goodbye [13:59]
CosmiCruzlater, mr zod000 <3 [13:59]
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qbitryk: o/ [14:11]
elalozod000: have a peaceful beer
sirskidmore: have a nice weekend
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qbitzod000: ima need you to have a good weekend
kthx
https://i.imgur.com/840qbLx.gif
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elaloqbit: are you the horse or the lamb [14:19]
CosmiCruzryk <3
where has ryk been?
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qbitelalo: goat [14:21]
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kyls/fr[a-z]+e/elalo/
s/fr[a-z]+e/elalo/
maybe not
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jrickdenied [14:37]
kylit was going to be SO FUNNY YOU GUYS [14:37]
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elalo_i haven't pooped myself in over a week [14:41]
CosmiCruzkyl!!! <3 [14:44]
lteoelalo_: o/ [14:44]
elalo_o [14:44]
CosmiCruzelalo_: is that a record?
lteo!!! <3
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lteoCosmiCruz!!! [14:45]
CosmiCruzwhat's going on, mr lteo? [14:46]
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lteoun-crapping some code [14:46]
elalo_cosmicruz: who keeps score? ;) [14:47]
CosmiCruzguinness, perhaps?
CosmiCruz shrugs
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elalo_cosmicruz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siCNdfH9U40
cosmicruz: nice to meet you, btw.
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CosmiCruznice to meet you too :D
CosmiCruz <3s everyone
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elalo_i picture cosmicruz as an earthy santa cruz spirit child [14:49]
CosmiCruzhmm...
anyways... gotta go or something, maybe.
CosmiCruz has some trees to hug.
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elalo_it was not my intention to induce an afk. [14:51]
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SirSkidmoreI'm so over my internship [14:54]
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elalo_:( [14:57]
lteothis just appeared in work chat "I was wrapping a wrapper" [14:58]
elalo_elalo_ winces [14:58]
kyllteo: o/
sometimes you have to reduce friction for your API friction-reducer
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SirSkidmorelteo: was the original wrapper too offensive?
did they wrap hijacking in "nineEleven"
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lteokyl: o [15:01]
SirSkidmorealso, kyl sorry for taking your star of sedlisp on github and posting it to lobste.rs
thought it was really neat, and couldn't believe it wasn't already posted :d
s/d$/D/
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kylthere [15:09]
pirokoyikes
you actually mad kyl?
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kylno
of course not
i got so much karma i can share with the peasants
err
D:
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pirokolol [15:17]
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kyllteo: funny enough, this project involves writing a wrapper
then I'm going to write a Go layer over that
so I might end up wrapping a wrapper
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lteolol [15:22]
pirokodude sirskidmore never came back... [15:28]
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dbtidgreetings [15:46]
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brycec!tell SirSkidmore KILLALLH1MANS01 is not a bot, especially not running on devio.us. It's me, logged in from devio.us, evidenced by the hostmask. [16:05]
zdobrycec: I'll tell SirSkidmore next time they speak. [16:05]
brycecI hate idiots. [16:05]
dbtidwhat brought that on? [16:07]
brycecdbtid: dealing with idiots :p [16:07]
dbtidyou think sirskidmore is an idiot? [16:07]
brycecMy comment was not in reference to SirSkidmore [16:07]
dbtidah, that was my confusion.
yes, dealing with idiots is not pleasant.
ok, time to go help my wife. later. good luck with the idiots.
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brycecbrycec thinks it's nap time
later
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CosmiCruzkyl!!! <3
also, later brycec
also, hi dbtid
:D
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ampharosdamn it vmware tools
you can't find the headers I JUST installed?
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elalo_i work for a spinoff of vmware and emc. they initially said we have to use vcloud for our virtualization enviornment. after 6 months of vcloud shitting the bed we all have amazon accounts [17:24]
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bcallahhttp://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2014-June/045494.html
this thread is terrible
if you freebsd...
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ampharoshttps://i.imgur.com/4PGpEGp.png america learns futbol hooliganism [17:45]
bcallahlol, america has always known futbol hooliganism
just not directed towards futbol
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kbwI'm going to put OpenBSD on my laptop, do you guys know of any way I can get a bootable installer working on my USB?
My external CD drive is in storage unfortunately
I think grub(which is currently installed on it) can boot ISOs dd'd to regular disks
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BryceBotNew OpenBSD snapshots for hppa! (Fri Jun 27 2014 16:25:40 GMT-0700(PDT)) [17:55]
jrickmmmhm pho [17:58]
bcallahkbw: you gotta be fuucking with me [17:59]
kbwAlso sue me for looking like a Garyite but I kind of like Motif for its rc syntax
I can't stand FVWM's
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bcallahdo you guys know of any way I can get a bootable installer working on my USB?
you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool
[17:59]
elalo_kbw is a powerful man. [18:00]
bcallahfuck that, should be put under @bcallah
Brian Callahan says: you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool
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bcallahbrycec: ^^
make it happen :D
OPENBSD HAS USB INSTALL IMAGES YOU DUMB SHIT (yes I know he left)
ALL IT WOULD TAKE FOR YOU TO DISCOVER THIS IS TO GO FUCKING LOOK AT ANY FUCKING MIRROR
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elalo_bcallah: when he's not berating the humans, he's berating the humans. [18:02]
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kbwHi, what was my last message? [18:03]
ampharoskbw: tl;dr: in mirror, usb installers are marked by .fs
dd that shit to the stick
[18:03]
kbwOh thanks
This is new
[18:04]
ampharosbcallah just went postal
the police will arrive soon
he's going to arkham asylum
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bcallahlol
I just can't believe how people here want to be spoonfed.
[18:05]
jrickbcallah: can I ship you my laptop to install openbsd on? [18:05]
bcallahjrick: I assume all hw shipped to me is a gift to me
so yes, but then it's mine
seriously, you know how I got to be a dev?
[18:05]
kbwbcallah, I had been trying to solve how to get install via USB working with OpenBSD for some time, without an OpenBSD host being at my disposal, so my question was justified [18:06]
bcallahI shut the fuck up until I could contribute something.
and then do you know what I did?
I SHUT THE FUCK UP SOME MORE AND DID SOMETHING.
no it wasn't
FUCKING MAILING LISTS
FUCKING MIRRORS
THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD
[18:06]
elalo_bcallah: yes but what did you do then? [18:06]
bcallahelalo_: now I talk, because I've earned that right [18:07]
jrickfaqs exist to be read [18:07]
brycecTHIS SHIT ISN'T HARD
twss
[18:07]
mcchunkieAdded funny: "THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD" [18:07]
bcallahlol [18:08]
kbwelalo_, did you ask bcallah how to become an OpenBSD dev or something? [18:08]
elalo_no..you pissed him off. [18:08]
kbwOr about how you plan on contributing? [18:08]
elalo_don't put this on me [18:08]
kbwI do that regularly [18:08]
bcallahyou don't lift a single finger to help yourself
you just expect someone else to do it for you
[18:08]
kbwI asked how I could get an OpenBSD image on a USB stick
You started ranting
[18:09]
bcallahbecause you didn't even bother looking
if you had you would have noticed the usb install images
[18:10]
jrickif you searched google maybe you'd find a good calomel link that answers your question [18:10]
ampharosexcept calomel is shit tier
openbsd devs said that
[18:11]
jrickthatsthejoke.jpg [18:11]
ampharosthey have a pkg_search script... when they could be pkg_info -Q [18:11]
elalo_yousuck mcbain! [18:11]
kbwbcallah, Ever since 4.9 I have never noticed any USB images, I didn't expect them to spontaneously be there this release [18:11]
bcallahkbw: maybe you should learn to look
shit gets better every day
[18:12]
kbwOk
Is it possible to change the console colors in OpenBSD to black on white?
[18:12]
elalo_i think you're going to give bcallah an aneurism. [18:14]
kbwinb4 do it via the shell
Good
[18:14]
jrickthis is hillarious [18:14]
elalo_s/ism/ysm [18:14]
BryceBot<elalo_> i think you're going to give bcallah an aneurysm. [18:14]
kbwHe need to learn to not get upset over small things
*needs
[18:14]
bcallahlol
you need to learn how to be part of the Big Boys(TM)
[18:15]
brycec@bcallah [18:15]
BryceBotBrian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something.
81,314 results found. Here's #7,768 May 23, 2013 12:00:25 <bcallah > it was kinda hard to hear
[18:15]
brycec@bcallah [18:15]
BryceBotBrian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something. [18:15]
kbwBah the armv7 port supports cubieboard now [18:15]
elalo_kbw: i do believe most of these questions could be easily answered via google [18:15]
BryceBot81,314 results found. Here's #1,003 Feb 28, 2013 20:49:21 <bcallah > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDifatTTOqU [18:15]
brycecbrycec smacks BryceBot [18:15]
kbwelalo_, I already tried googling [18:15]
bcallahkbw: holy shit! you did basic looking [18:15]
brycec@bcallah [18:15]
bcallah@bcallah [18:15]
BryceBotBrett Callahan says: you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool.
Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something.
81,316 results found. Here's #59,695 Jan 06, 2014 18:19:29 <bcallah > github doesn't count
81,316 results found. Here's #6,818 May 18, 2013 12:26:36 <bcallah > revberaldo,
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bcallahLMAO! Brett [18:15]
brycecmuch better [18:15]
CosmiCruzbrycec!!! <3
bcallah!!! <3
[18:16]
jrickahahahaa brett [18:16]
CosmiCruzjrick!!! <3 [18:16]
jrick<3 [18:16]
bcallahexcept I think it's funnier if the emo girl thing actually gets credited to me
because it's bascially insane
[18:16]
kbwThere are emo people in 2006+8? [18:16]
jricklazy evalulation is a bitch [18:17]
CosmiCruzhow have you been, mr jrick? [18:18]
jrickexcellent
eating pho right now
and it is amazeballs
[18:18]
kbwjrick, I could never stand that stuff
The pho the vietnamese place makes near me smells like piss bit tastes okay
Regardless I can't eat it
Ever since I found a roach in my rice my stomach churns at the sight of chinese/vietnamese food
[18:18]
bcallahthat's like pure protein [18:24]
CosmiCruzbcallah++ [18:30]
jrickhttps://www.massdrop.com/buy/potato-keycap [18:33]
kbwbcallah, it's like pure salmonella [18:39]
brycecNo way jrick, go team brick!
@last Lefty
[18:39]
BryceBotbrycec, I last saw Lefty 4 hours 8 min 16 sec ago quitting: *.net *.split. [18:40]
brycecping Lefty [18:40]
jrickpong Lefty [18:40]
kbw<rant>Pizza Hut has some fucking nasty pizza</rant> [18:41]
jrickbrycec: if only I could put a potato cap on my realforce [18:42]
brycecs#Pizza Hut#Any given pizza chain/place# [18:42]
BryceBot<kbw> <rant>Any given pizza chain/place has some fucking nasty pizza</rant> [18:42]
jrickguess I'll have to settle for real potatos [18:42]
bryceclol jrick
It's a silly abuse of 3D printers
[18:42]
kbwbrycec, there aren't any small pizza places here
Only chains
Well there might be, on a different street
[18:43]
brycecNot even small places are exempt though [18:43]
kbwWhy? Are you a pizza hater> [18:43]
brycecMy point is that various people make that statement about various places. [18:43]
kbw?
Ah
Nobody can unanimously agree on one pizza place I understand
[18:43]
bcallahpizza hut by me isn't terrible
but I also live in NJ, so you wouldn't go to pizza hut anyway
[18:44]
brycecLikewise, and that's not biased. [18:44]
kbwPizza Hut is the worst for me [18:44]
bryceclol bcallah [18:44]
kbwDominoes is pretty good
I used to swear by papa john's
And this local place I forget about, back when I lived in florida
[18:45]
brycecbrycec misses his "local place" from back in AZ [18:45]
bcallahlol [18:46]
kbwbcallah, is there a lot of different pizza shops there? [18:46]
bcallahthere ain't no such thing as "local place" here
everyone in NYC/NJ area lives within delivery distance of at least 10 pizzarias
[18:46]
kbwhuh [18:46]
brycecbcallah: Well sure, that would be "10 local places" though [18:47]
bcallahnot really [18:47]
brycec"local place" anything that isn't a big chain [18:47]
bcallahbecause it's very often you'll go to one outside your delivery distance
because, fuck it, you're 10 minutes from home and want to bring home a pizza
[18:47]
kbwWhich is better in terms of culture, NJ or NY state?
Excluding new york city
[18:48]
bcallahnot useful: NY state and NJ are so large they have many different cultures
I live in the part of NJ that's basically an extension of NYC
[18:48]
kbwLarge in terms of population? [18:48]
bcallahso a lot of people here (myself included) are displaced city people
large in terms of pop and geographic distance to culture centers
south jersey is dominated by philly culture
and philly sucks
no one likes philly
or south jersey
[18:48]
kbwHere the only visible non-American culture is Mexican [18:49]
bcallahexcept atlantic city
atlantic city is badass
you're figure that our in like 10 years
s/our/out/
[18:49]
BryceBot<bcallah> you're figure that out in like 10 years [18:49]
bcallahfuck
s/our/out/ | s/re/ll/
[18:49]
BryceBot<bcallah> you'll figull that out in like 10 years [18:50]
bcallahbcallah throws his hands in the air
bcallah gives up and hates everyone
[18:50]
kbwOne of my friends is Cuban, he comes from the same Florida neighborhood I came from [18:50]
kyls/b.+ss/boring/ [18:50]
BryceBot<bcallah> atlantic city is boring [18:50]
kbwReally interesting coincidence [18:50]
brycecbrycec hates bcallah back [18:50]
kbwbcallah, are most NJ/NY inhabitants as angry as you are? [18:51]
bcallahkyl: that's because you don't drink like I do :D [18:51]
kyltruth [18:51]
bcallahkbw: in NYC, everyone hate you
s/hate/hates/
[18:51]
BryceBot<bcallah> kbw: in NYC, everyone hates you [18:51]
kbwI hear you guys LOVE tourists [18:51]
bcallahI hate tourists
I used to be in the WTC area a lot for nycbug stuff.
HATED being there
[18:51]
kbwI'll make sure to bring my statue of liberty hat and start up conversations on the subway [18:51]
bcallahfucking tourists just stand around like idiots
I got fucking places to be
[18:51]
kbwAnd make sure to press my face against the window whenever I board a bus [18:52]
brycecbcallah: I hear that gripe a lot from SNL and the like... And it's really that bad? [18:52]
kbwIf I go to NYC I'll bring my trusty list of things that piss off natives
bcallah, how popular is your BUG there?
I saw that you were on BSD Now talking about it, but I never watched the episode
Too much of a download
[18:52]
bcallahnycbug is among the healthiest bugs, if not the healthiest [18:53]
brycecs/B/M/ | s/[A-Z]/[a-z]/ [18:53]
BryceBot<kbw> [a-z] saw that you were on [a-z][a-z][a-z] [a-z]ow talking about it, but [a-z] never watched the episode [18:53]
brycecfuck [18:53]
bcallahwe wield disproportionate influence for our size [18:54]
kbwneat [18:54]
bcallahextremely disproportionate [18:54]
kbwThere is a UNIX users group on the end of the stree I'm on
It seems pretty corporate though
It isn't the traditional sandals+tee-shirt organization where you discuss various distros and talk about hating The Man(microsoft)
bcallah, at an estimate, how many attendees are there on average?
[18:54]
bcallah20-30
our conferences sell out
but we only do that once a year
[18:55]
kbwThat's quite a bit
I never attended AUUG, I figure it's not my crowd
[18:55]
bcallahwe're the respected user group [18:56]
kbwThe people who attend that use UNIX for their jobs [18:56]
bcallahmany attendees don't use bsd at all [18:56]
kbwThere's always some kind of sponsorship or presentation by some corporation [18:56]
bcallahbut they know nycbug is where the serious people are [18:56]
kbwNot my thing [18:56]
bcallahso they come to learn something [18:56]
kbwbcallah, are they mostly desktop BSD users? [18:57]
bcallahlol no [18:57]
kbwOr do they all use Macs like the BSD user stereotype specifies [18:57]
bcallahif you want to lol desktop, go to nylug
no - we're BSD users
that means everywhere
[18:57]
kbwah [18:57]
bcallahour work, our homes
everywhere
there's no distinction for "desktop BSD"
you use BSD
[18:57]
kbwIf they're serious about using it they must not use it on every one of their devices
As their sole OS that is
[18:58]
bcallahthat makes literally no sense [18:58]
kbwbcallah, have you ever been to a LUG? [18:58]
bcallahsure [18:58]
kbwI have never attended one
bcallah, what are the people there like?
[18:58]
bcallahwhat do you think a BUG or a UUG is?
it's the same thing
just focused around BSD
[18:59]
kbwKissless neckbeards whose skin hints of basement dwelling?
I figure LUGs would have desktop Linux users mainly
I might be wrong
[18:59]
bcallahyeah, it's mostly lol desktop the one's I've been to
that's why I don't frequent them
[19:00]
kbwAh
Georgia Tech has a LUG
[19:00]
bcallahI'm not interested in the latest X compositor
I want to fucking learn something
[19:00]
kbwI might take MARTA over there at my next meeting
*their
No car :v
[19:00]
bcallahwhere I'm going there's a LUG and a (dormant) BUG
so I'm gonna restart the BUG, and be the badass BSD guy in the back of the room at the LUGs
[19:00]
elalo_"at the next LUG meeting we'll learn how systemd now automatically downloads and installs graphics drivers" [19:01]
kbwbcallah, have you ever visited 4chan.org/g?
Would you say LUG attendees might browse that site?
Do many of them have a ranging interest in the viewing of anime or ricing their desktop?
elalo_, hehe
I'm interested in OpenBSD's systemd supplicant
[19:01]
bcallahkbw: why the fuck would I know what anyone else does who isn't me?
unless someone explicitly tells me
[19:03]
kbwDunno [19:03]
bcallahan protip: if you think I give a shit about what $RANDOM does, think again [19:03]
kbwOk
I know what my friends do because they tell me
Some of them are into anime some of them aren't
[19:03]
bcallahyes, I know what my friends do [19:05]
kbwThen maybe your friends don't attend LUGs? [19:05]
bcallahbut the set of all of my friends and the set of all LUG attendees has 0 overlap [19:05]
kbwI don't see myself going to a LUG and not socializing
If it's focused around Linux I might as well ask people I meet what distro they use
[19:06]
bcallahlol
socializing
[19:06]
kbwbcallah, do your friends use BSD as well? [19:06]
bcallahthe ones that understand computers do [19:07]
elalo_coding can be fun! https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Og2EBG4N5M [19:07]
BryceBotYouTube Tech: "iJustine codes a 3D printed bracelet with Shapeways" by Shapeways (2m 24s), 13,183 views, 52 likes and 28 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-19T12:27:12.000Z. [19:07]
bcallahiJustine...
ugh
[19:07]
elalo_this is more ugh than normal
s/normal/usual
[19:07]
BryceBot<elalo_> this is more ugh than usual [19:07]
kbwI never knew any Linux users who dedicated themselves to learn about it
Only a couple guys who dual booted it or ran it on their secondary computers that they hardly touched
And certainly no BSD users
[19:07]
bcallahmaybe, and this is just a big fucking maybe because of who I'm gonna address this to
but just fucking maybe, you'll go LEARN something about a BSD, I don't actually give a shit which one (though I will judge you as an idiot if you pick the wrong one)
and then you'll be able to speak intelligently about BSD
and then maybe you won't be so much of a dumbass you can go to conferences and shit
and then make friends with real BSD users and devs
[19:09]
kbwThere isn't any BSD groups in my state I don't think [19:10]
bcallahholy fuck, I just gave you the best god damn life plan ever
I really can't believe how amazing I am.
[19:10]
kbwYour sarcasm can be painful to read at times :v [19:12]
bcallahoh no, that was in no way sarcasm
I am clearly the greatest thing to ever happen to you.
[19:12]
kbw"greatest" [19:12]
bcallahI gave you a fucking life plan.
how many people gonna do that for you?
[19:12]
kbwYou might have made me consider learning something about BSD but nothing much more [19:12]
bcallahand I don't even like you!
am I not merciful?
[19:12]
kbwbcallah, writing ports can't get me a job
Neither can any kind of BSD development, here at least
[19:13]
bcallahof course it can
you just haven't figured out how
BSD development got me an NSF fellowship
it's not that hard
[19:13]
mcchunkietwss! [19:14]
bcallahjust figure out how to market yourself and not be a bitch [19:14]
kbwIt's not hard to get an NSF fellowship? :p [19:14]
bcallahtho you should probably work on the not being a bitch thing first
kbw: how many people you know with an NSF fellowship?
[19:14]
kbwNone. [19:14]
bcallahyeah, cause they're super hard to get and incredibly prestigious [19:15]
kbwI don't know anybody with a diploma either, with the exception of a couple people.
I don't even contact the people I knew who graduated.
bcallah, do you use BSD for your job?
If you do, I hope it isn't to intrusive to ask you what you do
[19:15]
bcallahwhat I propose to do for my Ph.D. dissertation is predicated on me being an OpenBSD dev [19:18]
elalo_what are the odds that kbw is really bcallah, and that all of this is an exercise in self-esteem? [19:18]
bcallahzero [19:18]
kbwOkay, you got me. [19:18]
bcallahIf I want self-esteem, I'll just go fuck a girl [19:18]
kbwDon't listen to myself [19:19]
bcallahI have plenty of those
sorry but you don't have the cadence or vocabulary to impersonate me
[19:19]
kbwYour vocabulary hasn
't been very extensive in my prescence
[19:22]
elalo_s/prescence/presence [19:22]
BryceBot<kbw> 't been very extensive in my presence [19:22]
kbwMmm [19:22]
bcallahyou haven't been around long enough [19:23]
kbwbcallah, maybe you wouldn't have misspelled that [19:23]
bcallahall my mispelling are intentional [19:24]
kbwhehe
I wonder if getting stoned increases programming productivity like they say
[19:24]
elalo_absolutely not. [19:26]
kbwI've seen drunk programmers here [19:26]
elalo_it increases creativeity, not productivity. [19:26]
kbwThey can hardly type
elalo_, I see
elalo_, the reason I ask is because during the entire development of a project I know of the sole developer claimed to have been under the influence
elalo_, http://github.com/vendu/OS-Zero
[19:26]
elalo_comments such as 'another bunch of changes :)' do not inspire confidence. [19:28]
kbwHehe
I remember having to change my commit message some 7 times when I was contributing to hexchat
I hardly knew how to use git
Is there any reason why OpenBSD still stands by cvs?
Hitler told me that git is pretty terrible, so maybe that's why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts
[19:29]
BryceBotYouTube Tech: "Hitler uses git" by ronopolis (3m 23s), 204,538 views, 1,684 likes and 257 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-01-28T05:39:42.000Z. [19:31]
zod000kbw: where did you live in FL?
zod000 was reading scroll back
[19:32]
kbwSarasota and Cocoa Beach [19:32]
zod000ah nice [19:32]
kbwAt two different times
I liked Cocoa better just because a lot of my family was there and the waves were bigger
[19:32]
zod000i used to work in st pete, i live about an hour north of there in pasco [19:32]
kbwMy family goes back several generations in that city :D [19:33]
zod000most of my family is in pinellas [19:33]
kbwNeat [19:33]
zod000some are scattered in the country, but for the most part they are here [19:33]
kbwI'm going to Sarasota next week to visit my grandparents, and Cocoa beach afterwards to visit some other family.
My Dad's family lives overseas
[19:33]
zod000kbw: as I am sure you are aware, it is hot and disgusting here right now
heh
[19:33]
bcallah22:30 < kbw> Is there any reason why OpenBSD still stands by cvs?
go fucking read some mailing lists
[19:34]
zod000the "feels like" temp today was 109F [19:34]
kbwzod000, D:
zod000, Hopefully that will clear up when I'm there
[19:34]
zod000kbw: if you are bring cool weather with you, you are a god damned sorceror [19:35]
kbwhehe
It's not very cool here either
[19:35]
zod000and i will applaud your spells
kbw: where are you now?
[19:35]
kbwBut it isn't humid like it was earlier in the year
Atlanta
[19:35]
zod000oh yeah, atlanta can get quite hot [19:35]
kbwMy dad is a registered investment advisor here
Used to be a stock broker
[19:35]
CosmiCruzohai zod000... wb [19:36]
zod000hiya CosmiCruz [19:36]
kbwPart of me wants to live in Florida again :/ [19:36]
zod000everyone else in the house is now asleep, i finally have a moment of peace
kbw: a lot of my family lives directly on the beach, i admit, it would be pretty awesome to live in that area
[19:36]
CosmiCruzzod000: o/ [19:37]
zod000expensive as hell though
o
[19:37]
CosmiCruzmoments of peace o/ [19:37]
kbwYeah
I used to be located in the suburbs north of here, things were much cheaper there
I'm not sure about the price of real estate, I'm not the one who pays the bills
[19:37]
zod000kbw: i have a friend that lives in alphareta (sp?)
it seemed nice when i visited
[19:38]
kbwI've never been there [19:38]
zod000he commutes in to atlanta [19:38]
kbwNeato [19:38]
zod000i don't think I'd like to live in atlanta, but being in the burbs might not be so bad [19:39]
kbwI don't like the suburbs here.
Too many country people :p
I always say outside of Atlanta it's "the south".
[19:39]
zod000yeah, thats no good
yeah, i have always had a saying "the problem with geogia is that it is full of georgians"
atlanta is mostly the exception
:)
[19:39]
kbwhehe [19:40]
zod000i dated it a girl from georgia
she was so fucking georgian
[19:40]
kbwMost of the commuters stick inside their office complexes [19:40]
zod000was awful
haha
[19:40]
kbwI don't have to see them usually [19:40]
zod000i am pretty happy where i am living right now, but 90% of FL would not be acceptable to me [19:41]
kbwhehe
Stay on the coast and you're safe
Safe from the people, not hurricanes :p
[19:42]
zod000i want : A> minimal country/rednecks B> nice homes and neighborhoods C> access to city like things when I want them (restaurants, malls, general civilization) and D> not crazy traffic and general busy bullshit [19:43]
kbwzod000, the traffic could easily be solved by a marta expansion [19:44]
zod000zod000 doesn't know what that is [19:44]
kbwBut what is mainly blocking that is cobb county
zod000, our bus/metro authority
[19:45]
zod000ah
our bus system sucks
[19:45]
kbwcobb refuses to allow them to build a station in the north
Our buses are a bit dangerous I heard
I've never used them
[19:45]
zod000mainyl because the only people that ride the bus seem to be people that can't afford a car
and who wants to ride with them?
lol
[19:45]
kbwzod000, that's the problem with most bus systems
zod000, unless you're in somewhere like new york where some working class people don't have cars
[19:47]
zod000i imagine in true big cities, cars end up being a liability rather than a benefit [19:48]
CosmiCruzzod000++ [19:48]
kbwJust to be clear Atlanta is not one of those cities [19:48]
zod000no?
i guess it is probably because the streets actually work there
[19:49]
kbwYeah, no middle class people use the buses
To my knowledge
There's a racist joke about MARTA
Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta
[19:49]
zod000I lol'd, but i felt suitably bad about it [19:51]
kbwheh
It's an old joke
[19:51]
elalo_hello again cosmicruz [19:52]
kbwzod000, I'm just glad I'm out of the suburbs. Public transportation = good for some carless person like me :D [19:53]
zod000lol [19:53]
CosmiCruzhello, elalo_ :D
how's it going?
[19:53]
zod000brb getting another beer [19:53]
CosmiCruzMOAR BEER [19:53]
zod000zod000 is enjoying La Fin du monde
beer: la fin du monde
[19:53]
mcchunkieUnibroue (1990 : http://www.unibroue.com/ ) La Fin Du Monde ( ABV: 9 IBU: 19 ) - La Fin du Monde has a brilliant golden color with vigorously effervescent foam. It is midly yeasty with a complex palate of malt, fruit and spice notes followed by a smooth, dry finish. La Fin du Monde was developed through 18 months of research on a unique strain of yeast originating from Europe. It is brewed in honor of the intrepid European explorers who believed they had rea
orth America ‘the new world’. This triple-style golden ale recreates the style of beer originally developed in the Middle Ages by trappist monks for special occasions and as such it was the first of its kind to be brewed in North America.
[19:53]
CosmiCruzmcchunkie: botsnack [19:54]
mcchunkie=.= [19:54]
CosmiCruzmcchunkie: o/ [19:54]
mcchunkieo [19:54]
CosmiCruzprotip? [19:54]
mcchunkieDon't mix up + and - [19:54]
kbwI'm enjoying Georgua's signature brand of fizzy sugar water :D [19:54]
kusuriyabrotip? [19:55]
mcchunkieDon't make a mistake,e ver. [19:55]
kbwlol [19:55]
CosmiCruzkusuriya: TO THE CLOUD!!! [19:56]
BryceBotTO THE CLOUD!!! [19:56]
kusuriyahmm looks like a few more months and we will know if chinas lunar rover hunkered down correctly
it should be back in radio range by then :D
TO THE CLOUD!
[19:56]
BryceBotTO THE CLOUD!!! [19:57]
zod000kbw: what do you mean "signature brand"? [19:59]
kbwzod000, a well known brand in my state
I used it in the wrong context I know
Do any of you guys understand linker scripts?
[20:01]
zod000not I
the beer is helping me leaving understanding of things at the door
[20:03]
jrick<- out of beer :'( [20:04]
zod000:(
i am stocked up
[20:04]
***kbw is now known as kbw2 [20:05]
jricktime to pour the rum [20:05]
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zod000jrick: yo ho, it's a pirate's life for me [20:06]
CosmiCruzgoodnight, all <3 [20:09]
elalo_goodnight cosmicruz
this is the first time i have had lagunitas pilsner. it is good.
[20:10]
zod000fucking idiots are already shooting off fireworks [20:10]
elalo_zod000: throw beer bottles [20:11]
kbwhehe [20:11]
zod000if they wake my kids up i will murderize them [20:11]
jrickkill some redcoats [20:11]
zod000zod000 grabs his musket [20:11]
kusuriyakusuriya hides in the forest and shoots at the police and military with his musket
PEW PEW GUYS!
[20:12]
zod000zod000 is off to cause trouble [20:12]
kusuriyafuck yeah [20:13]
kbwhttp://wecan.hasthe.technology/
Why the fuck is this DNS shit allowed
[20:20]
kusuriyawhy not [20:22]
elalo_kbw: are you gary? [20:29]
kbwNope [20:29]
elalo_k [20:29]
kbwelalo_, I'm vaguely insulted you see resemblance between us :p [20:30]
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elalo_i haven't interacted with gary. [20:36]
kbwI came into his channel thinking not much of it, found out he was a psycho, and trolled my way into getting banned
Also trolled in PM with him
[20:37]
bryceckusuriya: you're about 300mi too far West to get away with that shit :p [20:47]
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SirSkidmorelol [21:43]
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SirSkidmorekyl: you dick [21:43]
lteokyl: ^ [21:43]
SirSkidmoremy autorejoin apparently still doesn't work
and I was out to dinner
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lteolol we thought you were pissed :p [21:44]
SirSkidmoreno
I was just gone lol
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brycecAlso you seemed to be "here" at the time [21:48]
SirSkidmorebrycec: yeah, I left in a hurry
nbdjs
I tend to leave without saying that I'm leaving a lot
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night all
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