[00:15] *** al3hex has joined #devious [00:45] *** kieselsteini has joined #devious [01:18] *** BuGy- is now known as BuGy [02:34] *** cmacrae has joined #devious [02:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v cmacrae [02:56] *** bizarro_1 has joined #devious [03:03] *** variable has quit IRC (Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero) [03:13] *** variable has joined #devious [04:22] New OpenBSD snapshots for zaurus! (Fri Jun 27 2014 03:04:41 GMT-0700(PDT)) [04:23] anyone have a zaurus here? [04:36] *** variable has quit IRC (Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero) [04:37] *** variable has joined #devious [04:54] *** al3hex has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [04:56] ampharos: I think someone does [04:57] I just can't remember who [04:57] i have an N900, nice thing [04:57] openbsd support would be god tier [04:57] i know winocm ported darwin to it but she did nothing else with that [05:12] ampharos: I think kyl might have it? [05:20] greetings [05:20] hey dbtid [05:20] hi SirSkidmore [05:20] ehlo dbtid [05:20] and SirSkidmore. and everyone else. [05:21] hi jorey [05:29] at least it's friday [05:31] at least [06:02] mernin [06:04] hi jrick [06:04] how are you this FINE friday morning? [06:04] I am FINE [06:04] FINE [06:04] BE THAT WAY THEN [06:04] I WILL [06:04] FINE [06:04] GOOD DAY SIR [06:04] RIGHT [06:05] http://bash.org/?23396 [06:05] Bash.org: "Quote #23396" [06:05] http://bash.org/?5273 [06:05] Bash.org: "Quote #5273" [06:05] too bad bash.org seems to have died [06:09] died? [06:09] haha dbtid that second one was one of my favorites [06:10] SirSkidmore: it's been one of my favorites, too, for a long time. [06:11] I read like the top 200 at one time [06:11] only? [06:11] i've done that before: put a machine under a bunch of stuff and then forgot about it. [06:11] Nei: no no, it's, uh, resting [06:11] SirSkidmore: http://bash.org/?random1 now. [06:11] could only find it by hunting down the ehternet cable. [06:11] *ethernet [06:11] SirSkidmore: and keep refreshing. [06:11] jorey: only what? [06:11] "only the top 200?" [06:11] and yes, it's dead: there haven't been any new posts in a looooooooong time. [06:12] and it makes me sad [06:12] * dbtid sads [06:12] yeah, that's a pity [06:12] well, there were a very few new posts a few years ago, 2-3 i think [06:12] but there were a few quiet years before that and ever since [06:12] jorey: well I mean there are 4400 quotes pending [06:13] 4345 [06:13] not enough to round up to 4400 [06:13] SirSkidmore: do we need to send you back to 4th grade math??? [06:13] oops [06:14] totally saw that as 4845 [06:14] *** it has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:14] bash.org is probably pining for the fjords [06:15] http://bash.org/?287414 [06:15] story of pete [06:15] Bash.org: "Quote #287414" [06:16] dbtid: yeah that's in the top 100 I think [06:16] why doesnt BryceBot just read us the quote [06:16] mhm. might be too long I guess [06:16] because some are *long* [06:16] could show the first line tho [06:17] to remind us who spent lots of time reading bash quotes of them without having to open the link?) [06:17] :D [06:18] http://bash.org/?44584 [06:18] >.> [06:18] Bash.org: "Quote #44584" [06:19] would have been so much faster just to fix the typo >.> [06:19] don't get it. [06:19] *whoosh* [06:19] Bye jrick! [06:19] bye [06:19] back to work!! [06:19] I think instead of fixing the typo he just added a footnote thing [06:20] SirSkidmore: especially with BryceBot. [06:21] it would be like me just typing something and then I tpyo[1] a word somewhere [06:21] [1]typo [06:21] thanks [06:21] you're welcome. [06:26] ugh [06:26] I put in a request to get a visual studio key at work on monday and after several followups have heard nothing back [06:26] so probably another day without doing much [06:28] whee! [06:29] SirSkidmore: no blog posts! [06:29] i forgot whether you're in college or not. if you are, check whether you can get one via msdnaa [06:29] (if you terribly need it and you can't get one from your employer) [06:30] jorey: they don't one using a student license for work stuff [06:30] bcallah: I thought I pushed them up last night? [06:30] hmm [06:30] weird [06:31] negative [06:32] oh [06:32] my rsync must not have worked [06:33] SirSkidmore: right. nevermind me, i derped. [06:57] halla [07:00] qbit: o/ [07:00] time for more coffee [07:01] Okay folks, I'm seeking for some advice, I haven't played video games in like 15 to 20 years, but now I'm looking forward to buy something with motion sensor, mainly to have fun with GF and her kid. Any advice on platforms and/or games? [07:02] Cyl: motion sensor ala WiiU, Kinect, etc? [07:02] zod000: Yep, sorry I don't know how this accessories are actually called. [07:03] zod000: Something with 3D would also be nice, I guess. [07:03] CyL: nearly all of them are tied to their respective platform. nintendo makes the Wii and WiiU, Microsoft makes the Kinect for xbox, and Sony makes the Move [07:04] I haven't seen a general purpose model for an open platform like PC that i would recommend yet [07:04] zod000: Never heard of Move before, wasn't it playstation that Sony made? [07:04] zentrified: the Move is Son'y Wii-like attachment [07:04] err CyL [07:04] sorry zentrified [07:04] zod000: Okay I get it. [07:04] CyL: I happen to have Wii and the Move, and I rarely use either [07:05] I personally do not care for them, I got the Wii for the family, and they never use it sadly [07:05] zod000: What about the number of games, specially for younger players like my gf's daughter (5 y/o), and for playing with whole family [07:05] zod000: o/ [07:06] I got the move because it was 90% off and came with two games and some machinegun like attachment. it was worth getting just to play House of the Dead with friends while drinking, but I haven't enjoyed it with much else [07:06] \o [07:06] zod000: I get it... [07:06] CyL: the kinect is different, no controller, just a motion sensor [07:07] great for dance games, but as it lacks any sort of button, it is the most limited imp [07:07] imo [07:07] it does so a lot of voice activated stuff some people love [07:07] zod000: Good to know about that. So the Move actually has a controller of some kind? [07:07] zod000: Unfortunatelly I believe that would be more for English... [07:07] CyL: yes, the Move is a controller and camera combo [07:08] the controllers are bluetooth just like the ps3 controllers [07:08] it is ps3 only though [07:08] Oh okay [07:08] zod000: Do you have kids? [07:08] well, technically you could probably hack something for pc, but i know of only preliminary stuff [07:08] CyL: yes, three [07:08] bcallah: fixed. [07:09] zod000: Any of them in same same age range as mine? [07:09] CyL: how old are yours? [07:09] CyL: mine are 1.5, 5, and 14 [07:09] zod000: I don't have kids of my own. I was actually refering to my gf's daughter, since most of the time I'm the closest of a father she haves. She is 5. [07:11] zod000: So, at the age of 5, what's the hype besides Monster High? Specially in the electronic entertainment area (something that would gather the family together). [07:12] zod000: She is craving for a tablet, but everytime she has got one in her hands, it's like she's hipnotized or in some other universe. [07:13] dbtid: \o [07:13] how goes ? [07:13] CyL: be careful about that. we carefully regulate our kids' time on those things. [07:13] qbit: o/ [07:13] dude! [07:13] i'm good. how are you? [07:13] doing good [07:14] gettin tired of all these snakes on these mother fuckin planes [07:14] oh? [07:14] CyL: my 5 year old doesn't like playing the motion games or console much, she loves her tablet though [07:14] did you pet snake collection get loose again? [07:14] dbtid: Thanks for your adivce, we take a lot of care about it tough. I'm the only one in the house with a smartphone, and I won't give it to her. She only play those thing eventually. [07:15] zod000: The problem with tablets is that it splits the family, not gather it together. [07:15] same with smartphones [07:16] dbtid: Yep. Any advice on this? [07:16] CyL: well sure, and maybe your family differs a lot from mine, but finding an activity for the entire family (or nearly) to do and actually getting them all to do it is a rare occasion [07:16] yeah... my 12 year old brother is constantly staring at a screen [07:16] SirSkidmore: I'm constantly staring at screen as well. And also tmux... [07:17] CyL: i have better luck with getting people to play a board game than anything else [07:17] and even when his friends come over, they never do anything. They don't talk or play games. They're just browsing Vine/Twitter/Youtube and occasionally showing each other a video [07:17] it's awkward to be around [07:17] SirSkidmore: sad [07:17] we have an anti-tablet/phone rule if my daughters friends are over [07:17] zod000: yeah. I have 6 or 7 designer board games that after I convinced my friends to try are all hooked on. It's what we usually do [07:17] she can do that when they aren't here, and they can do that at home [07:18] between the 5 or 6 people in my freind group we probably have 20-30 games we rotate [07:18] SirSkidmore: nice! [07:18] zod000: yeah! [07:18] the only game we regularly play is cards agaisnt humanity [07:18] haha I had to read this signature twice, this indian support agent is calling himself Murrica [07:18] uggggg [07:18] zod000: hate that [07:18] my wife won't play most board games with me anymore [07:18] zod000: We play them a lot. But she is very, very active, and I thought something that made her move and entertain would be nice. Unfortunatelly we don't have any neighbour kids, so she only have contact with kids while at school. [07:18] SirSkidmore: we have a great time with it [07:19] zod000: my friends never wanted to play Battlestar Galactice the board game, but then I convinced them to try it finally, and they all got hooked on board games [07:19] haha [07:19] zod000: it just gets stale quicky. [07:19] zod000: Because she is competitive? [07:19] SirSkidmore: well, we don't play it THAT often, and we have all the expansion packs and made our own cards [07:20] CyL: no, because she isn't and I am a lot better at them. [07:20] hitler jokes always win for person a, black jokes always win for person b; "jerking off into a pool of childrent's tears: good to the last drop" is only funny so many times [07:20] zod000: we play Battlestar, Pandemic, Russian Railroads, and Louis and Clark a lot [07:21] WTF, board games are a universe appart, never heard of these [07:21] SirSkidmore: yeah my wife and her friends will never play those, and my friends might, but once we reach a certain beer level, it will fall apart [07:21] CyL: yeah.. they're "designer" board games [07:21] SirSkidmore: CURL?!?!? [07:21] why would you use curl? [07:21] ftp works better and is in base [07:21] * zod000 curls some weights [07:21] bcallah: Okay; will edit [07:21] what's wrong with curl? [07:21] it's not in case [07:22] base [07:22] http://www.justlia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/cara-a-cara001.jpg <-- that's what I usually play with her, she loves it [07:22] also, after you've used aria2 you'll never want to go back to curl [07:22] http://isuba.s8.com.br/produtos/01/00/item/111703/7/111703711SZ.jpg <-- and that's the closets resemblant of a video game we ever play together [07:23] bcallah: that is way heavier than what i need, I use curl to do what i could get done wit hwget, but a little better [07:23] CyL: i play arcade games with my daughter [07:23] zod000: torrent and magnet links [07:24] like TMNT, golden axe, magic sword, battletoads, etc [07:24] zod000: Arcade games, like the one with a little steel ball? [07:24] zod000: Oh, like those.. [07:24] zod000: I saw a 4-player 1CC of Ninja Baseball Batman the other day [07:24] CyL: well i have one of these http://www.xgaming.com/store/arcade-joysticks-and-game-controllers/product/x-arcade-dual-joystick/ [07:24] was hilariously awesome [07:25] so much fun seeing dev teams argue about coding style [07:25] those games work well because i can do most of the actual work she she thinks she is doing well [07:25] heh [07:25] (also, technically you should cp /bsd.rd to /obsd.rd [07:25] ) [07:25] coding style is more important than the code itself [07:25] that way you can still boot off a ramdisk if you need [07:26] zod000: Nice. [07:26] bcallah: fixed [07:26] that controller also does well for the "twin stick" games like smash tv [07:27] zod000: It's really nice looking and sounds great, but I'm kind of reluctant of getting something that would put me on a chair or sofa [07:28] CyL: i have it at a tall desk so it is the same height (more or less) as a real arcade machine [07:28] bcallah: Did I miss anything for the setup? There was about 2 days between me installing and writing the post. [07:28] i play on building an arcade cabinet to hold it [07:28] CyL: but yes, certainly not for everyone [07:29] I thought I wrote most of it down so I wouldn't forget, but I feel like I missed something [07:30] zod000, dbtid: thanks for you rnice advice folks, I'm still kind of learning how to deal with kids [07:30] Got to go, time for lunch. [07:31] cya CyL [07:33] There's no way you could have installed msttcorefonts from packages (there is no package for it). [07:33] oops [07:33] typo [07:33] and the reason to cp /bsd.rd /obsd.rd is in case something's wrong with /bsd.rd and for need the old ramdisk for something [07:34] i.e. download corruption [07:34] I even put that there weren't any packages haha [07:34] but in practice, it's probably not necessary [07:34] just something I tend to do [07:34] wtf [07:34] since I blow it all away with a clean install anyway [07:34] bcallah: you runnin the latest amd64 snap? [07:34] nope [07:34] you? [07:34] ssh-add seems to have shit the bed [07:35] psure that's already known [07:35] * qbit reads some email [07:35] so technically, you don't need to download the bsd.rd from the new arch either? [07:36] also, if you have inet access and can watch video from where you are... [07:36] twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda [07:36] the game they're playing is Metal Wolf Chaos [07:36] it's hilarious [07:37] yer hilarious! [07:38] am [07:38] bcallah: okay. Hopefully it's all fixed now [07:45] Getting new tires for the fr-s today. Excited [07:52] rad [07:52] new tires rock [07:52] it's like a new car [07:54] how much space does the fr-s have in the back for big car seats? [07:54] hmm [07:54] they advertise it as having enough space for your tires [07:54] 13 minutes remiaing for a 20mb zip file >.> [07:57] tire-babies [08:06] lteo: o/ [08:06] dbtid: \o [08:07] lteo: you should get a hot hatch instead [08:09] lolololteo asking about space for a car seat in a sportster [08:10] i think you should buy an Escalade ESV [08:10] your kids will love it [08:15] ESV - Extra Slutty Version? East-Siiiide Version? Extremely Sordid Version? [08:16] extra slutty version was always my favorite bible transalation [08:17] jrick: what?? you're not a KJV fundie??! [08:20] brycec: would be fun to drive around with a souped up sportster with big spoilers and all, and with huge car seats in the back seat [08:20] jrick: "And Moses said 'Met my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'" [08:20] s/Met/Let/ [08:20] jrick: "And Moses said 'Let my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'" [08:20] * zod000 is not familar with that passage [08:23] zod000: obviosuly it's in Cinton 5:11 [08:23] *** kieselsteini has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:28] *** tiksa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [08:31] *** tmrd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [08:33] *** tmrd has joined #devious [08:40] *** tiksa has joined #devious [08:51] i keep mistyping postgresql as potsgresql [08:54] heh [08:55] lteo: i often type "postgisql" [09:00] lteo: can you imagine running a website using postgresql _and_ lighttpd :P [09:01] I often type fuck you, when I mean, oh? [09:02] heh i'm the other way round [09:02] dvl_: oh [09:03] Every 'whatever' has a little bit of 'fuck you'. [09:03] *** tmfrd has joined #devious [09:03] *** tmrd has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [09:03] *** tmfrd is now known as tmrd [09:07] dvl_: whatever man ;) [09:08] what. ever. [09:08] man. [09:09] SirSkidmore: you use manifest? [09:10] lteo: FR-S has enough room for car seats [09:11] nice [09:11] I actually just rode in the back of a brz on my way back from the tire place. If I can fit, a car seat can fit [09:11] agreein [09:13] ESV == Extra Sweet Version [09:13] ew [09:13] sweet and meat don't go imo :D [09:14] so you want Extra Sweet Vagina? [09:14] i can say that word here, right? [09:14] no underage kids here? [09:15] 80 character line length limit: the greatest foe of concurrent code [09:20] lol [09:20] dbtid: think you can [09:20] :D [09:35] luckily for you the 80 char limit isnt part of the spec unlike SMTP headers :P [09:48] qbit: ? [09:50] SirSkidmore: https://github.com/gigamonkey/manifest [09:50] qbit: no [09:51] I don't do a ton of CL [09:51] I've done quite a bit of scheme [09:52] scheme on my friend ;D [09:52] it's what my school teaches [09:52] nice [09:52] you use stumpwm ya? [09:59] yeah [09:59] FUCK [09:59] forgot I had a ADN developer account tied to my paypal [10:00] just overdrafterd hard [10:00] TWSS! [10:00] Why do you hate ADN so much? Are you trying to bankrupt them??? [10:00] brycec: wait [10:00] what [10:01] and my paypal was tied to my old bank acct # [10:01] Clearly you're trying to short ADN their money. [10:01] so I have no money [10:01] and it takes 2-3 days for it to appear in my new bank so I can transfer money over [10:01] well [10:01] crap [10:02] this is an expensive mistake [10:02] a $70 mistake... [10:02] Man, why doesn't nmap scan ipv6 ranges? It's not like the smallest subnet is undectillion addresses or anything. [10:02] 18446744073709551616 isn't that many, is it? [10:02] @wa 18446744073709551616 [10:02] 18446744073709551616;1.8446744073709551616 × 10^19;18 quintillion ...;18 billion billion ...;20 decimal digits;10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000_2;2^64;m->2->3->4->5->6->7->8->9, 18 446 744 ... 551 616 mod m->0->1->0->1->4->2->0->7;18446744073709551616 is an even number.;18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power.;A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible with straightedge and compass. [10:03] "A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible" this sentence seems false. [10:05] * bcallah hands brycec a straightedge and compass [10:05] only one way to find out! [10:05] * brycec kiks self [10:05] *kills [10:06] grrr [10:07] these guys broke this damn web page [10:07] now everything is going to be more difficult [10:07] "18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power" gee no kidding, Wolframalpha :D [10:09] brycec: did you want to play with the ADN api? [10:09] I can let you use this account [10:10] I don't want it to go to waste [10:10] SirSkidmore: that's generous, thank you. I actually found dalton's (I think) api-lite stuff [10:10] duerigs [10:10] Yeah [10:10] knew it was a d [10:10] do you want a full API? [10:10] (and then I forgot about the project altogether) [10:10] I'd hate to see this all go to waste [10:11] OF FOR FUCK'S SAKE! WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?! IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!! [10:11] s/OF/OH/ [10:11] OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE! WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?! IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!! [10:11] SirSkidmore: doooh [10:11] Wow that's saying something, dbtid [10:11] i can get to doc.opensuse.com but not www.google.com [10:11] WTF!? [10:11] Since FF's proxy configs are >>> than Chrome's [10:12] qbit: yeah [10:12] I'm kind of mad at myself [10:12] I was planning on closing this account today too >.> [10:12] yeah, well, they're not working now. [10:12] and while I'm at it, let me go change over my papypal info [10:12] SirSkidmore: post it here so we can help you. [10:12] SirSkidmore: glad it happened tho - reminded me to drop my dev account ;D [10:13] * brycec is still waiting for ADN integration into Bitlbee [10:13] I'm kind of really sad to see adn on a sudden decline :/ [10:13] >.> [10:13] <.< [10:13] this is nuts [10:13] s/this is/I am/ [10:13] I am nuts [10:14] i can get to several pages, but not ones i really need. [10:14] i can get to openbsd.org and linux-wireless.org [10:14] can't get to yahoo.com google.com or a few other sites. [10:14] dbtid: does FF give an error message? something useful? [10:14] FF isn't useful for anything anymore. [10:14] no. it says nothing. [10:14] So it's just a blank page? [10:15] it says "Waiting for ..." [10:15] has no problem with some sites [10:15] What type of proxy? [10:15] i go over to my windows machine (granted, on another network, but goes through the same upper layers) and have no problems. [10:15] i don't know the brand. [10:15] http? socks? [10:16] http [10:16] dbtid: do you have an https proxy set? [10:16] /etc/sysconfig/proxy contains HTTP_PROXY HTTPS_PROXY and FTP_PROXY all set to the same value. [10:16] every site you aren't able to hit is one on the auto-https list [10:16] chrome has no problem using these [10:16] i tell FF to use the system proxies. [10:16] so try setting them manually? [10:17] ah [10:17] no [10:17] i didn't hit the check mark to say use all the same [10:17] ok here's what's happening [10:17] if i tell ff to use the system settings, it fails [10:17] well [10:17] if i set it manually and say "use all" it works [10:18] this sucks >.> [10:18] it works now [10:18] but seriously. that sucked. [10:19] (A bunch of relevant, but useless google hits for the issue) [10:20] ok, so this site i'm using (an internal site) has some untrusted scripts, which chrome refuses to say anything about, but when used with FF, FF actually prompts and then lets me run the scripts. [10:20] so that's one thing FF lets me do that chrome won't [10:21] now le's see if all this infrastructure BS we pay for will work. [10:28] I'm a fan of Chrome's approach - don't confuse the idiots and keep them reasonably secure. Devs know to look in the console for errors. [10:28]