New OpenBSD snapshots for zaurus! (Fri Jun 27 2014 03:04:41 GMT-0700(PDT))
anyone have a zaurus here?
ampharos: I think someone does
I just can't remember who
i have an N900, nice thing
openbsd support would be god tier
i know winocm ported darwin to it but she did nothing else with that
ampharos: I think kyl might have it?
greetings
hey dbtid
hi SirSkidmore
ehlo dbtid
and SirSkidmore. and everyone else.
hi jorey
at least it's friday
at least
mernin
hi jrick
how are you this FINE friday morning?
I am FINE
FINE
BE THAT WAY THEN
I WILL
FINE
GOOD DAY SIR
RIGHT
http://bash.org/?23396
Bash.org: "Quote #23396"
http://bash.org/?5273
Bash.org: "Quote #5273"
too bad bash.org seems to have died
died?
haha dbtid that second one was one of my favorites
SirSkidmore: it's been one of my favorites, too, for a long time.
I read like the top 200 at one time
only?
i've done that before: put a machine under a bunch of stuff and then forgot about it.
Nei: no no, it's, uh, resting
SirSkidmore: http://bash.org/?random1 now.
could only find it by hunting down the ehternet cable.
*ethernet
SirSkidmore: and keep refreshing.
jorey: only what?
"only the top 200?"
and yes, it's dead: there haven't been any new posts in a looooooooong time.
and it makes me sad
yeah, that's a pity
well, there were a very few new posts a few years ago, 2-3 i think
but there were a few quiet years before that and ever since
jorey: well I mean there are 4400 quotes pending
4345
not enough to round up to 4400
SirSkidmore: do we need to send you back to 4th grade math???
oops
totally saw that as 4845
bash.org is probably pining for the fjords
http://bash.org/?287414
story of pete
Bash.org: "Quote #287414"
dbtid: yeah that's in the top 100 I think
why doesnt BryceBot just read us the quote
mhm. might be too long I guess
because some are *long*
could show the first line tho
to remind us who spent lots of time reading bash quotes of them without having to open the link?)
:D
http://bash.org/?44584
>.>
Bash.org: "Quote #44584"
would have been so much faster just to fix the typo >.>
don't get it.
*whoosh*
Bye jrick!
bye
back to work!!
I think instead of fixing the typo he just added a footnote thing
SirSkidmore: especially with BryceBot.
it would be like me just typing something and then I tpyo[1] a word somewhere
[1]typo
thanks
you're welcome.
ugh
I put in a request to get a visual studio key at work on monday and after several followups have heard nothing back
so probably another day without doing much
whee!
SirSkidmore: no blog posts!
i forgot whether you're in college or not. if you are, check whether you can get one via msdnaa
(if you terribly need it and you can't get one from your employer)
jorey: they don't one using a student license for work stuff
bcallah: I thought I pushed them up last night?
hmm
weird
negative
oh
my rsync must not have worked
SirSkidmore: right. nevermind me, i derped.
halla
qbit: o/
time for more coffee
Okay folks, I'm seeking for some advice, I haven't played video games in like 15 to 20 years, but now I'm looking forward to buy something with motion sensor, mainly to have fun with GF and her kid. Any advice on platforms and/or games?
Cyl: motion sensor ala WiiU, Kinect, etc?
zod000: Yep, sorry I don't know how this accessories are actually called.
zod000: Something with 3D would also be nice, I guess.
CyL: nearly all of them are tied to their respective platform.  nintendo makes the Wii and WiiU, Microsoft makes the Kinect for xbox, and Sony makes the Move
I haven't seen a general purpose model for an open platform like PC that i would recommend yet
zod000: Never heard of Move before, wasn't it playstation that Sony made?
zentrified: the Move is Son'y Wii-like attachment
err CyL
sorry zentrified
zod000: Okay I get it.
CyL: I happen to have  Wii and the Move, and I rarely use either
I personally do not care for them, I got the Wii for the family, and they never use it sadly
zod000: What about the number of games, specially for younger players like my gf's daughter (5 y/o), and for playing with whole family
zod000: o/
I got the move because it was 90% off and came with two games and some machinegun like attachment.  it was worth getting just to play House of the Dead with friends while drinking, but I haven't enjoyed it with much else
\o
zod000: I get it...
CyL: the kinect is different, no controller, just a motion sensor
great for dance games, but as it lacks any sort of button, it is the most limited imp
imo
it does so a lot of voice activated stuff some people love
zod000: Good to know about that. So the Move actually has a controller of some kind?
zod000: Unfortunatelly I believe that would be more for English...
CyL: yes, the Move is a controller and camera combo
the controllers are bluetooth just like the ps3 controllers
it is ps3 only though
Oh okay
zod000: Do you have kids?
well, technically you could probably hack something for pc, but i know of only preliminary stuff
CyL: yes, three
bcallah: fixed.
zod000: Any of them in same same age range as mine?
CyL: how old are yours?
CyL: mine are 1.5, 5, and 14
zod000: I don't have kids of my own. I was actually refering to my gf's daughter, since most of the time I'm the closest of a father she haves. She is 5.
zod000: So, at the age of 5, what's the hype besides Monster High? Specially in the electronic entertainment area (something that would gather the family together).
zod000: She is craving for a tablet, but everytime she has got one in her hands, it's like she's hipnotized or in some other universe.
dbtid: \o
how goes ?
CyL: be careful about that.  we carefully regulate our kids' time on those things.
qbit: o/
dude!
i'm good.  how are you?
doing good
gettin tired of all these snakes on these mother fuckin planes
oh?
CyL: my 5 year old doesn't like playing the motion games or console much, she loves her tablet though
did you pet snake collection get loose again?
dbtid: Thanks for your adivce, we take a lot of care about it tough. I'm the only one in the house with a smartphone, and I won't give it to her. She only play those thing eventually.
zod000: The problem with tablets is that it splits the family, not gather it together.
same with smartphones
dbtid: Yep. Any advice on this?
CyL: well sure, and maybe your family differs a lot from mine, but finding an activity for the entire family (or nearly) to do and actually getting them all to do it is a rare occasion
yeah... my 12 year old brother is constantly staring at a screen
SirSkidmore: I'm constantly staring at screen as well. And also tmux...
CyL: i have better luck with getting people to play a board game than anything else
and even when his friends come over, they never do anything. They don't talk or play games. They're just browsing Vine/Twitter/Youtube and occasionally showing each other a video
it's awkward to be around
SirSkidmore: sad
we have an anti-tablet/phone rule if my daughters friends are over
zod000: yeah. I have 6 or 7 designer board games that after I convinced my friends to try are all hooked on. It's what we usually do
she can do that when they aren't here, and they can do that at home
between the 5 or 6 people in my freind group we probably have 20-30 games we rotate
SirSkidmore: nice!
zod000: yeah!
the only game we regularly play is cards agaisnt humanity
haha I had to read this signature twice, this indian support agent is calling himself Murrica
uggggg
zod000: hate that
my wife won't play most board games with me anymore
zod000: We play them a lot. But she is very, very active, and I thought something that made her move and entertain would be nice. Unfortunatelly we don't have any neighbour kids, so she only have contact with kids while at school.
SirSkidmore: we have a great time with it
zod000: my friends never wanted to play Battlestar Galactice the board game, but then I convinced them to try it finally, and they all got hooked on board games
haha
zod000: it just gets stale quicky.
zod000: Because she is competitive?
SirSkidmore: well, we don't play it THAT often, and we have all the expansion packs and made our own cards
CyL: no, because she isn't and I am a lot better at them.
hitler jokes always win for person a, black jokes always win for person b; "jerking off into a pool of childrent's tears: good to the last drop" is only funny so many times
zod000: we play Battlestar, Pandemic, Russian Railroads, and Louis and Clark a lot
WTF, board games are a universe appart, never heard of these
SirSkidmore: yeah my wife and her friends will never play those, and my friends might, but once we reach a certain beer level, it will fall apart
CyL: yeah.. they're "designer" board games
SirSkidmore: CURL?!?!?
why would you use curl?
ftp works better and is in base
bcallah: Okay; will edit
what's wrong with curl?
it's not in case
base
http://www.justlia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/cara-a-cara001.jpg <-- that's what I usually play with her, she loves it
also, after you've used aria2 you'll never want to go back to curl
http://isuba.s8.com.br/produtos/01/00/item/111703/7/111703711SZ.jpg <-- and that's the closets resemblant of a video game we ever play together
bcallah: that is way heavier than what i need, I use curl to do what i could get done wit hwget, but a little better
CyL: i play arcade games with my daughter
zod000: torrent and magnet links
like TMNT, golden axe, magic sword, battletoads, etc
zod000: Arcade games, like the one with a little steel ball?
zod000: Oh, like those..
zod000: I saw a 4-player 1CC of Ninja Baseball Batman the other day
CyL: well i have one of these http://www.xgaming.com/store/arcade-joysticks-and-game-controllers/product/x-arcade-dual-joystick/
was hilariously awesome
so much fun seeing dev teams argue about coding style
those games work well because i can do most of the actual work she she thinks she is doing well
heh
(also, technically you should cp /bsd.rd to /obsd.rd
)
coding style is more important than the code itself
that way you can still boot off a ramdisk if you need
zod000: Nice.
bcallah: fixed
that controller also does well for the "twin stick" games like smash tv
zod000: It's really nice looking and sounds great, but I'm kind of reluctant of getting something that would put me on a chair or sofa
CyL: i have it at a tall desk so it is the same height (more or less) as a real arcade machine
bcallah: Did I miss anything for the setup? There was about 2 days between me installing and writing the post.
i play on building an arcade cabinet to hold it
CyL: but yes, certainly not for everyone
I thought I wrote most of it down so I wouldn't forget, but I feel like I missed something
zod000, dbtid: thanks for you rnice advice folks, I'm still kind of learning how to deal with kids
Got to go, time for lunch.
cya CyL
There's no way you could have installed msttcorefonts from packages (there is no package for it).
oops
typo
and the reason to cp /bsd.rd /obsd.rd is in case something's wrong with /bsd.rd and for need the old ramdisk for something
i.e. download corruption
I even put that there weren't any packages haha
but in practice, it's probably not necessary
just something I tend to do
wtf
since I blow it all away with a clean install anyway
bcallah: you runnin the latest amd64 snap?
nope
you?
ssh-add seems to have shit the bed
psure that's already known
so technically, you don't need to download the bsd.rd from the new arch either?
also, if you have inet access and can watch video from where you are...
twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda
the game they're playing is Metal Wolf Chaos
it's hilarious
yer hilarious!
am
bcallah: okay. Hopefully it's all fixed now
Getting new tires for the fr-s today. Excited
rad
new tires rock
it's like a new car
how much space does the fr-s have in the back for big car seats?
hmm
they advertise it as having enough space for your tires
13 minutes remiaing for a 20mb zip file >.>
tire-babies
lteo: o/
dbtid: \o
lteo: you should get a hot hatch instead
lolololteo asking about space for a car seat in a sportster
i think you should buy an Escalade ESV
your kids will love it
ESV - Extra Slutty Version? East-Siiiide Version? Extremely Sordid Version?
extra slutty version was always my favorite bible transalation
jrick: what?? you're not a KJV fundie??!
brycec: would be fun to drive around with a souped up sportster with big spoilers and all, and with huge car seats in the back seat
jrick: "And Moses said 'Met my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'"
s/Met/Let/
<zod000> jrick: "And Moses said 'Let my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'"
zod000: obviosuly it's in Cinton 5:11
i keep mistyping postgresql as potsgresql
heh
lteo: i often type "postgisql"
lteo: can you imagine running a website using postgresql _and_ lighttpd :P
I often type fuck you, when I mean, oh?
heh i'm the other way round
dvl_: oh
Every 'whatever' has a little bit of 'fuck you'.
dvl_: whatever man ;)
what. ever.
man.
SirSkidmore: you use manifest?
lteo: FR-S has enough room for car seats
nice
I actually just rode in the back of a brz on my way back from the tire place. If I can fit, a car seat can fit
agreein
ESV == Extra Sweet Version
ew
sweet and meat don't go imo :D
so you want Extra Sweet Vagina?
i can say that word here, right?
no underage kids here?
80 character line length limit: the greatest foe of concurrent code
lol
dbtid: think you can
:D
luckily for you the 80 char limit isnt part of the spec unlike SMTP headers :P
qbit: ?
SirSkidmore: https://github.com/gigamonkey/manifest
qbit: no
I don't do a ton of CL
I've done quite a bit of scheme
scheme on my friend ;D
it's what my school teaches
nice
you use stumpwm ya?
yeah
FUCK
forgot I had a ADN developer account tied to my paypal
just overdrafterd hard
TWSS!
Why do you hate ADN so much? Are you trying to bankrupt them???
brycec: wait
what
and my paypal was tied to my old bank acct #
Clearly you're trying to short ADN their money.
so I have no money
and it takes 2-3 days for it  to appear in my new bank so I can transfer money over
well
crap
this is an expensive mistake
a $70 mistake...
Man, why doesn't nmap scan ipv6 ranges? It's not like the smallest subnet is undectillion addresses or anything.
18446744073709551616 isn't that many, is it?
@wa 18446744073709551616
18446744073709551616;1.8446744073709551616 × 10^19;18 quintillion ...;18 billion billion ...;20 decimal digits;10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000_2;2^64;m->2->3->4->5->6->7->8->9, 18 446 744 ... 551 616 mod m->0->1->0->1->4->2->0->7;18446744073709551616 is an even number.;18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power.;A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible with straightedge and compass.
"A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible" this sentence seems false.
only one way to find out!
*kills
grrr
these guys broke this damn web page
now everything is going to be more difficult
"18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power" gee no kidding, Wolframalpha :D
brycec: did you want to play with the ADN api?
I can let you use this account
I don't want it to go to waste
SirSkidmore: that's generous, thank you. I actually found dalton's (I think) api-lite stuff
duerigs
Yeah
knew it was a d
do you want a full API?
(and then I forgot about the project altogether)
I'd hate to see this all go to waste
OF FOR FUCK'S SAKE!  WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?!  IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!!
s/OF/OH/
<dbtid> OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE!  WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?!  IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!!
SirSkidmore: doooh
Wow that's saying something, dbtid
i can get to doc.opensuse.com but not www.google.com
WTF!?
Since FF's proxy configs are >>> than Chrome's
qbit: yeah
I'm kind of mad at myself
I was planning on closing this account today too >.>
yeah, well, they're not working now.
and while I'm at it, let me go change over my papypal info
SirSkidmore: post it here so we can help you.
SirSkidmore: glad it happened tho - reminded me to drop my dev account ;D
I'm kind of really sad to see adn on a sudden decline :/
>.>
<.<
this is nuts
s/this is/I am/
<dbtid> I am nuts
i can get to several pages, but not ones i really need.
i can get to openbsd.org and linux-wireless.org
can't get to yahoo.com google.com or a few other sites.
dbtid: does FF give an error message? something useful?
FF isn't useful for anything anymore.
no.  it says nothing.
So it's just a blank page?
it says "Waiting for <websitenamehere>..."
has no problem with some sites
What type of proxy?
i go over to my windows machine (granted, on another network, but goes through the same upper layers) and have no problems.
i don't know the brand.
http? socks?
http
dbtid: do you have an https proxy set?
/etc/sysconfig/proxy contains HTTP_PROXY HTTPS_PROXY and FTP_PROXY all set to the same value.
every site you aren't able to hit is one on the auto-https list
chrome has no problem using these
i tell FF to use the system proxies.
so try setting them manually?
ah
no
i didn't hit the check mark to say use all the same
ok here's what's happening
if i tell ff to use the system settings, it fails
well
if i set it manually and say "use all" it works
this sucks >.>
it works now
but seriously.  that sucked.
(A bunch of relevant, but useless google hits for the issue)
ok, so this site i'm using (an internal site) has some untrusted scripts, which chrome refuses to say anything about, but when used with FF, FF actually prompts and then lets me run the scripts.
so that's one thing FF lets me do that chrome won't
now le's see if all this infrastructure BS we pay for will work.
I'm a fan of Chrome's approach - don't confuse the idiots and keep them reasonably secure. Devs know to look in the console for errors.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/golang-nuts/sN6BFoli5GE
(Anything to keep from confusing the stupid users)
wtf
"Y'know, every time I see that word, I think about the pieces of paper that floated around my Brooklyn garden one horrible September afternoon."
I kind of know where he's going with that
I just don't care
oh this software just suck
s
we have indirect access to the customer machines
so i tell it to take a script containing 'ps auxw > /tmp/psuaxw.txt' and put it in /tmp and then run it on upload.
then i tell it to give me /tmp/psuaxw.txt
does it do it?
NO!?
jrick: that man is an idiot
makes for fun lunch reading though
"In some cases it is easy to perceive where a word might contain a negative or disturbing association - hijack is just such a word. **Especially** after Sep 11."
agreed: what an idiot
wow, even Rob Pike stepped in
fun stuff
yeah, he's just going to wrap the method so he never has to think about it again >.>
someone tell him the compiler is inlining his wrapper so he's still calling Hijack
@golang
>.>
"I believe Go is actively harming the software industry by providing a very incapable tool for building working software, yet it’s presented as a real alternative. I do not think it’s responsible to let others get introduced to such silliness." https://lobste.rs/s/gw0wsx/why_i_m_not_going_to_stop_posting_go_links/comments/rbkqse
slowbot is slow
well that was a hugely fun thread to read
the Chris dude seems like an asshole :)
holy crap
qbit: you're like the 8th person on the lobste.rs user tree
huh
:D
and kyl is a moderator
my uid is 4
hai
howdie yrmt
jrick: that Go "hijack" thread was beyond rediculous.  Makes me want to fly a plane into his browser
too soon?
my devious shell account can't handle pkgsrc :(
zod000: nope
I laughed
:D
SirSkidmore: o/
zod000: i loled too
SirSkidmore: yeah qbit is like a proto-human of the lobster world
i like that you can see the user tree and who invited who
"the gateway to devious"
er for?
zod000: \o
fuggin lol http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/06/fleshlight-launchpad
the ad
omg the ad
assume NSFW?
haha
yea
there isn't much nsfw
just fleshlights bouncing around
everything is sfw when you work from home
truth
I kind of want to click
but I totally shouldn't
click first, think later
s/s\w/st/
shoot
how do you mark the end of a word
I guess that would have matched the s in prefers too
tr/[:upper:]/[:lower:]/
 >>> SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx tholgh
tr/[::upper::]/[::lower::]/
 >>> SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx tholgh
nope
qbit: not supported by php
tr/[a-z]/[A-Z]/
<brycec> QBIT: NOT SUPPORTED BY PHP
The only reason ^^ is supported is because I implemented the range-expansion.
http://us1.php.net/strtr
snap
ribo: sounds like ODESZA has some Tribe called Red in thar: https://soundcloud.com/odesza/no-sleep-mix-05
SoundCloud: "NO.SLEEP - Mix.05 by ODESZA" by ODESZA
or what ever TCR sampled :D
(for those wondering what that consists of http://sprunge.us/BKfI)
Ribo's not here, maaaaan
"Download a file to this asset" and "Upload a file from this asset"
those are just wrong.
ass et
brycec: Y U NO OPEN SOURCE?
i've been doing communications stuff like that since 1983.
qbit: working on it in my limited spare time.
"upload to" and "download from"
qbit: I don't work for Oracle, I don't have 9 hour conference calls during which i can fuck around
http://dailycurrant.com/2014/06/27/63-of-americans-think-belgium-is-a-beer-company
made me lol
brycec: if you open source it... we can all work on it :D
yeah yeah, qbit
but before I release it, there's cleanup to be done.
twhs
lteo++
goodguy dbtid
qbit: they make whiskey too?
or wines
qbit: bahaha
begium should become a beer company
nationalize all those breweries
take over the beery world from ambev
lol
its friday
*it's
anyone here familiar with Axeda?
lteo: its friday. get off my back!
the week's friday
its friday
will it be a tequila friday or a gin friday?
elalo: *it's*
scotch
*it's*
*it's*
*it's*
*it's*
is the server offline?
*it's*
scotch makes me angry :(
it's not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=063jQAM6N8I
burbon makes me loveable
YouTube Comedy: "The It's-man & Intros of Monty Python's Flying Circus" by RobbySpry (9m 57s), 49,210 views, 265 likes and 3 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-11T22:08:26.000Z.
elalo: how about crotch?
elalo: *bourbon
lteo: gonna see how everyone likes my yoda conditionals
kylol
like them they will not
kyl: you should make it yoda exim style: if (1 = = x)
haha
I did
on accident on one of them
@lod
ಠ_ಠ
i always write my conditional that use constant with the constant on the left
except it was (1 = =x)
whoa
dbtid: example?
dbtid: aka yoda conditionals?
if (TSS_RESULT == tpm->res) { ERRROROROROROROROR; }
lteo: if (0 < x) printf ("x is positive\n");
i don't know how long they've been called yoda conditionals.
wow. mind blown
i've been writing code that way for a long time (original code -- if i'm patching someone's code, i will follow what they've done).
i actually had one "engineer" complain because of that.
i told him it prevents common mistakes in C
yoda conditionals are the win. protect yourself against forgetting to include the constant!
blown is mind.
^my^
blown my mind is.
apparently it's only down for me, according to isup.me
these fuckers wrote all this bullshit in perl
brycec: can you unban me: 64.71.8.10
dbtid: I just like to have everything explode during _compilation_ v. runtime if I accidentally assign a const
assign a const wut
I guess I only do it for equality checks
kyl: exactly
kyl: do it for all conditionals -- blown will be their minds.
e.g. if i leave off the < or > or ! i end up with the expression 'constant = variable' and i'm still safe.
@wiki yoda conditionals
Yoda conditions :: In programming jargon, Yoda conditions (also called Yoda notation) is a programming style where the two parts of an expression are reversed from the typical order in a conditional statement. A yoda condition places the constant portion of the expression on the left side of the conditional statement. The name for this programming style is derived from the Star Wars... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoda%20conditions
created in May of 2103
err
created in May of 2013
sorry.  i accidentally slipped there.
s/y s/y nip-/
<dbtid> sorry.  i accidentally nip-lipped there.
i forgot that when i was in the future and first wrote that.
lteo: nice try
but you missed
s/se/ste/
 >>> dbtid tastes lteo
jrick: >:
well at least one of you enjoys it
jrick: oh, lteo *loves* to be tased.
wow is it me or the new generation of programmers don't get Makefiles
I don't get why you'd want a makefile either
get a decent toolchain
autotools has spoiled them
now everyone with $100 haircuts is coding in golang without worrying about the implications of their work!
yes every go programmer uses autotools
and has 100$ haircuts :D
and is a go programmer
>.>
<.<
TIL kyl is every go programmer
literally
that would make you literally hitler
basho
weathered bones
 just thinking of the wind
 it pierces my body
since when did mcchunkie become vegan
yesterday
typical
wtf mcchunkie
wut
protip?
cccccwjioiojwfeiojfweijowefijoefw89u2389u23908u
since when does she know poetry?
s/mcchunkie/dbtid/
<SirSkidmore> wtf dbtid
lol mcchunkie
I'll always remember that protip
wtf elalo
wtf wtf
SirSkidmore: always
SirSkidmore: no, never always.  just never.
otip?
brotip?
irssi segfaults on 5.4 if you do /last on an icb channel
brotip?
trust is weaksauce
notbad
qbit: mcchunkie needs a lobotomy
how come?
mcchunkie is weaksause
wat
protip
protip?
the best coding font is comic sans.
lol
protip?
British Columbia is best Columbia
the database is full of nonsense
Colombia is the best Columbia
@rms
Richard Stallman says: I never imagined that the Free Software Movement would spawn a watered-down alternative, the Open Source Movement, which would become so well-known that people would ask me questions about 'open source' thinking that I work under that banner.
yeah.  who could confuse those?
rms: porting non-free software to an OS is bad! but porting a free compiler to a non-free OS is good!
does stallman sound like a preacher at talks?
because in my head
sirskidmore: a homeless preacher. with no followers.
I just imagine him dressed in the church of emacs getup shouting at people and sprinking water on people
so far that's the only thing i don't like about emacs
qbit: rms?
GPLv3
ohhh
I still think it would be really cool to see an actual clojure implementation of emacs
in teh jvm?
yeah
not sure i can support that
don't you work for oracle?
aren't you supposed to <3 java?
>.>
<.<
just saying...
but I agree
I think I non-GPL emacs would be great
write one and call it "scam"
eewwwww clojuremacs
racketmacs would be cool though
or one that uses cl
kyl: that would actually be a lot of fun
<3 scheme
kyl!!! <3
qbit!!! <3
SirSkidmore: o/
\o
CosmiCruz: o/
how's it going, SirSkidmore?
sup mang
It's going
qbit: \o
not much, mr qbit
just ready to go home, you know
SirSkidmore: you're at work or something?
CosmiCruz: yeah
awesome \o/
CosmiCruz: meh
:D
:P
what's going on at work, SirSkidmore?
kyl: have you read little schemer/reasoned schemer/seasoned schemer?
CosmiCruz: absolutely nothing at all
SirSkidmore: you should start the harlem shake at your office.
uh
no
well, you gotta do something fun, I think
troll your neighbors?
CosmiCruz: radical
qbit: o/
CosmiCruz++
all good ideas
lol
CosmiCruz: I am in a cubicle by myself :( no one occupies the cubicles surronding me :(
SirSkidmore: oh :(
my russian friend is across the way, but he's out of the office at the moemnt
I swear to god, there are people in this office who probably don't know if I speak English
I only talk to Mikhail in Russian, ha
do you?
yes
:P
sirskidmore: that sounds like paradise
a quiet place to get work done
or to IRC, amirite
CosmiCruz: 100% right
CosmiCruz: o/
\o
pyezdetz
elalo: yeahh... I can't really figure out russian that's written in Roman
New OpenBSD snapshots for amd64! (Fri Jun 27 2014 11:56:06 GMT-0700(PDT))
https://twitter.com/trevorpaglen/status/482595956752670722
TWITTER: Go! @EFF: It's true. EFF and @Greenpeace flew a 135 ft. airship over Utah NSA data center  https://eff.org/r.kzpb http://t.co/OfO7Qabcam" (Fri Jun 27 18:46:56 +0000 2014, retweeted 14 times)
if donating to the EFF got you free zepplin flights over the NSA data center, they'd have tons more donations
until they get shot down anyway
heh
i'd donate if that would get me shot down. hell, i should go to detroit, i can probably get shot there for free!
jorey: your desire to get shot is intriguing.  I stive to remain unshot as long as I can
*strive
jorey: your odd desire to get shot could help a lot of people practice their marksmanship.
jorey: i fully endorse this pursuit.
jorey: have at it and good luck!
dbtid: well if he isn't dodging, i won't help as much
i can pretend to dodge
haha
Pew Research Center: if you're proud to be an American, you're probably not a liberal.
dbtid: thanks!
jorey: sure.  anytime we tackle a large undertaking, we need support.
sirskidmore: it means 'we're totally utterly fucked' but in russian the word is a derivative of the russian word for clitoris.
so the translation is approximate.
so.. FUBAR? :p
bingo
elalo: what's the word?
well all i know is the phonetic spelling using english letters.
ah
pyezdyetz.
developing software with ukrainians is fun.
New OpenBSD snapshots for i386! (Fri Jun 27 2014 11:58:13 GMT-0700(PDT))
heh
after Go's switch statements, C's switches are meh
at least it has switches!
after rust's match expressions, statements are meh
also need to keep in mind what it translates to
assuming matches are the pattern matching pretty much every functional language has had forever?
in C I know I get a nice jump table
a const uint8_t can't be used for a switch
hmm now I have a hard choice to make
whereas in Go
it would be
s/w/c/
<kyl> it could be
Sirskidmore: пиздец == fubar
okay
kusuriya_: what choice?
see, I recognize that
I got a job offer to be an exchange admin for the defense language insitutie
sirskidmore: it's also a very, very naughty word (as described above)
right
but that means I have to move to monterey CA in 3 weeks
I know that one and хопа but that's really it
kusuriya_: I know you wanted to do something else, but a least it gets your out of a toxic workplace
siski == tits
s/your/you/
<zod000> kusuriya_: I know you wanted to do something else, but a least it gets you out of a toxic workplace
SirSkidmore: сука = whore. дурак = asshole/idiot (but more used in the sense of "fuck!" whe nsomething goes wrong)
SirSkidmore: you need to know those words!!!111111
fuck!
ohhhh
yeah but thats a quick move
thats 2 week notice + week to move
kusuriya_: yeah, won't be easy
yeah I know сука from playing DoTA2 a few times with Russian people
understatement in the least
haha
in theroy its really easy assuming I can find an apartment in a week
lol SirSkidmore
пиздец: russian noun to describe a worst case, which became even worse
kusuriya_: moving tends to suck no matter what
id be closer to kyl i guess :P
that's a selling point if I'veever heard one
kyl raises select property values wherever he travels
kyl: monterey is beautiful. overcast often. mild temperatures.
s/kyl/kusuriya_/
<elalo> kusuriya_: monterey is beautiful. overcast often. mild temperatures.
yeah whoever ;)
:)
@weather 34653
New Port Richey, FL: Thunderstorm ☈ 88°F (31°C), Humidity: 69%, Wind: From the WNW at 6.8 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=28.262777,-82.700165 or re-request this with: @weather -v 34653
lies, it is over 90 and no clouds in the sky
i know monterey is pretty
Lived there for a few years as a kid
and helped a buddy move there when he got selected to be an instructor of farsi at DLI
полный пиздец: worst case that became even worse, and is now completely FUBAR to the extent that it simply cannot be increased.
i still like the idea of lumshevuk (sp?)
a word that has no translation but the idea is it is painful to the mind
SirSkidmore: there's another funny one, with a little story: i've always been close to a few russian families. anyways, this one friend of mine didn't really know russian all that well anymore, but his parents did. we were teenagers at the time and his mom wasn't pleased with something he did, so she started talking in russian and he was just like "yeah..whatever" until some point he looked confused, thought for a second and then asked her whether ...
... she really just said that.
SirSkidmore: what she said was "ёб твою мать!" which literally means something like "fuck your mother" or "i fucked your mother" or something, but it's a really general cussword as well, occasionally used when you're simply not happy with something someone did
arhhshsghahahah!!!
SirSkidmore: and by no means /as/ offensive as it sounds. since he didn't know cause he didn't care about russian, he thought she meant it literally and got really confused :)
#walloftext #hashtagsinirc
#yoloswagforjesus
you forgot 420
@beerforpresident
err
beer++
#beerforpresident
beer++
jorey: lol
beer++
soon it shall be beer time
still have 35 minutes
exactly
but yeah to I stay or go
beer thirty can't come fast enough
that's what she said!
mianosm++
beer thirty started for me yesterday at 3
she had degenerative alcoholism
http://rlv.zcache.com/beer_thirty_watch-r01cfe6c521d54b3b9cad268fc58479fc_wmod9_8byvr_512.jpg
lteo: you cannot stop the tide
STFU
i shall stop the tide!
lteo: accept the entropy of the universe or be destroyed by it
this madness cannot continue
i don't get why do programmers tolreate this shite
kick that newbie programmer into a pit
lteo: some don't just tolerate it, they revel in it
zod000: "fight in the shade" :(
the debugging messages clearly show the stuff is wrong
and yet, he thinks it's working well
what the fruit
lteo: how can a new program already be in danger of unmaintainable hell?
did you write it with crayon?
lteo: my favorite is the programmer that fixes bugs my throwing a try/catch around them and them moving on
bcallah: when the new program gradually becomes not-so-new program
like hoping it will just go away
zod000: let me guess, the catch is for the broadest exception there is? ;)
zod000: try{ ... } catch(Exception e){}? :)
jorey: yes
exactly
godlike
mother fuckers
lteo: who's writing this program?
is this juniordev?
bcallah!!! <3
zod000!!! <3
<| L T E O |>
CosmiCruz!!! <3
CosmiCruz: o/
piroko!!! <3
\o
how's everybody doing?
o\
could be worse
YES I MEANT TO HIT MYSELF
I realized I utterly hate my pathetic existence working day in and day out staring at a computer screen for 40 hours a week
Other than that though I'm good
so fucking tired...
piroko: o/
bcallah: why is that? :(
long week
mmm
yay, long week \o/
so hard to find people who just get it
piroko: i suggest beer/sex/fun over the weekend, in no particular order
zod000: that sounds like a great idea minus the beer. I'll take liquor tho
what's going on, mr lteo?
piroko: that is an acceptable substitute
liquor++
what's going on, mr zod000?
jsut working
nothing fun
if only you're allowed to beer&&code at work
New OpenBSD packages for i386! (Fri Jun 27 2014 01:08:53 GMT-0700(PDT))
where'd everybody go? :(
CosmiCruz: you scared them off
heh
I always do :(
lol
how's life outside of work and IRC, mr zod000?
if i were still working in an office, i'd likely not be talkative this close to 5pm
CosmiCruz: shitty :(
work and irc are the high points
oh :(
i don't particularly want to elaborate right now, but things are rough
thanks guys
wait, what is this
its a trap!
it's an intervention
lolol... j/k
i was going to make it weird
but decided against it
IT'S A TRP!
err
IT'S A TRP!
IT'S A TRAP!
fuck
lolololol
nice tr
p
so what does KILLALLHUMANS01 do?
kill al "h1mans" (hymens?)
KILLALLHUMANS01: o/
KILLALLH1MANS01: o/
aren't they bots?
We're safe then.
I hate traps
that's why I do inline error handling
jrick!!! <3
alright
I'm heading home
bye
have a good weekend SirSkidmore
i am going to go try and have a beer before all hell breaks loose again here
have a good weekend all (not that I won't be around here)
zod000: I'm sure I'll be around some this weekend :D
later, mr zod000 <3
ryk: o/
zod000: have a peaceful beer
sirskidmore: have a nice weekend
zod000: ima need you to have a good weekend
kthx
https://i.imgur.com/840qbLx.gif
qbit: are you the horse or the lamb
ryk <3
where has ryk been?
elalo: goat
hows it going in here today?
freenode pooping itself
s/fr[a-z]+e/elalo/
s/fr\[a-z\]+e/elalo/
maybe not
denied
it was going to be SO FUNNY YOU GUYS
i haven't pooped myself in over a week
kyl!!! <3
elalo_: o/
\o
elalo_: is that a record?
lteo!!! <3
CosmiCruz!!!
what's going on, mr lteo?
un-crapping some code
cosmicruz: who keeps score? ;)
guinness, perhaps?
cosmicruz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siCNdfH9U40
cosmicruz: nice to meet you, btw.
nice to meet you too :D
i picture cosmicruz as an earthy santa cruz spirit child
hmm...
anyways... gotta go or something, maybe.
it was not my intention to induce an afk.
I'm so over my internship
:(
this just appeared in work chat "I was wrapping a wrapper"
lteo: o/
sometimes you have to reduce friction for your API friction-reducer
lteo: was the original wrapper too offensive?
did they wrap hijacking in "nineEleven"
kyl: \o
also, kyl sorry for taking your star of sedlisp on github and posting it to lobste.rs
thought it was really neat, and couldn't believe it wasn't already posted :d
s/d$/D/
there
yikes
you actually mad kyl?
no
of course not
i got so much karma i can share with the peasants
err
D:
lol
lteo: funny enough, this project involves writing a wrapper
then I'm going to write a Go layer over that
so I might end up wrapping a wrapper
lol
dude sirskidmore never came back...
greetings
!tell SirSkidmore KILLALLH1MANS01 is not a bot, especially not running on devio.us. It's me, logged in from devio.us, evidenced by the hostmask.
brycec: I'll tell SirSkidmore next time they speak.
I hate idiots.
what brought that on?
dbtid: dealing with idiots :p
you think sirskidmore is an idiot?
My comment was not in reference to SirSkidmore
ah, that was my confusion.
yes, dealing with idiots is not pleasant.
ok, time to go help my wife.  later.  good luck with the idiots.
later
kyl!!! <3
also, later brycec
also, hi dbtid
:D
damn it vmware tools
you can't find the headers I JUST installed?
i work for a spinoff of vmware and emc. they initially said we have to use vcloud for our virtualization enviornment. after 6 months of vcloud shitting the bed we all have amazon accounts
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2014-June/045494.html
this thread is terrible
if you freebsd...
https://i.imgur.com/4PGpEGp.png america learns futbol hooliganism
lol, america has always known futbol hooliganism
just not directed towards futbol
I'm going to put OpenBSD on my laptop, do you guys know of any way I can get a bootable installer working on my USB?
My external CD drive is in storage unfortunately
I think grub(which is currently installed on it) can boot ISOs dd'd to regular disks
New OpenBSD snapshots for hppa! (Fri Jun 27 2014 16:25:40 GMT-0700(PDT))
mmmhm pho
kbw: you gotta be fuucking with me
Also sue me for looking like a Garyite but I kind of like Motif for its rc syntax
I can't stand FVWM's
do you guys know of any way I can get a bootable installer working on my USB?
you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool
kbw is a powerful man.
fuck that, should be put under @bcallah
Brian Callahan says: you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool
brycec: ^^
make it happen :D
OPENBSD HAS USB INSTALL IMAGES YOU DUMB SHIT (yes I know he left)
ALL IT WOULD TAKE FOR YOU TO DISCOVER THIS IS TO GO FUCKING LOOK AT ANY FUCKING MIRROR
bcallah: when he's not berating the humans, he's berating the humans.
Hi, what was my last message?
kbw: tl;dr: in mirror, usb installers are marked by .fs
dd that shit to the stick
Oh thanks
This is new
bcallah just went postal
the police will arrive soon
he's going to arkham asylum
lol
I just can't believe how people here want to be spoonfed.
bcallah: can I ship you my laptop to install openbsd on?
jrick: I assume all hw shipped to me is a gift to me
so yes, but then it's mine
seriously, you know how I got to be a dev?
bcallah, I had been trying to solve how to get install via USB working with OpenBSD for some time, without an OpenBSD host being at my disposal, so my question was justified
I shut the fuck up until I could contribute something.
and then do you know what I did?
I SHUT THE FUCK UP SOME MORE AND DID SOMETHING.
no it wasn't
FUCKING MAILING LISTS
FUCKING MIRRORS
THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD
bcallah: yes but what did you do then?
elalo_: now I talk, because I've earned that right
faqs exist to be read
THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD
twss
Added funny: "THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD"
lol
elalo_, did you ask bcallah how to become an OpenBSD dev or something?
no..you pissed him off.
Or about how you plan on contributing?
don't put this on me
I do that regularly
you don't lift a single finger to help yourself
you just expect someone else to do it for you
I asked how I could get an OpenBSD image on a USB stick
You started ranting
because you didn't even bother looking
if you had you would have noticed the usb install images
if you searched google maybe you'd find a good calomel link that answers your question
except calomel is shit tier
openbsd devs said that
thatsthejoke.jpg
they have a pkg_search script... when they could be pkg_info -Q
yousuck mcbain!
bcallah, Ever since 4.9 I have never noticed any USB images, I didn't expect them to spontaneously be there this release
kbw: maybe you should learn to look
shit gets better every day
Ok
Is it possible to change the console colors in OpenBSD to black on white?
i think you're going to give bcallah an aneurism.
inb4 do it via the shell
Good
this is hillarious
s/ism/ysm
<elalo_> i think you're going to give bcallah an aneurysm.
He need to learn to not get upset over small things
*needs
lol
you need to learn how to be part of the Big Boys(TM)
@bcallah
Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something.
81,314 results found. Here's #7,768 May 23, 2013 12:00:25 <bcallah > it was kinda hard to hear
@bcallah
Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something.
Bah the armv7 port supports cubieboard now
kbw: i do believe most of these questions could be easily answered via google
81,314 results found. Here's #1,003 Feb 28, 2013 20:49:21 <bcallah > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDifatTTOqU
elalo_, I already tried googling
kbw: holy shit! you did basic looking
@bcallah
@bcallah
Brett Callahan says: you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool.
Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something.
81,316 results found. Here's #59,695 Jan 06, 2014 18:19:29 <bcallah > github doesn't count
81,316 results found. Here's #6,818 May 18, 2013 12:26:36 <bcallah > revberaldo,
LMAO! Brett
much better
brycec!!! <3
bcallah!!! <3
ahahahaa brett
jrick!!! <3
<3
except I think it's funnier if the emo girl thing actually gets credited to me
because it's bascially insane
There are emo people in 2006+8?
lazy evalulation is a bitch
how have you been, mr jrick?
excellent
eating pho right now
and it is amazeballs
jrick, I could never stand that stuff
The pho the vietnamese place makes near me smells like piss bit tastes okay
Regardless I can't eat it
Ever since I found a roach in my rice my stomach churns at the sight of chinese/vietnamese food
that's like pure protein
bcallah++
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/potato-keycap
bcallah, it's like pure salmonella
No way jrick, go team brick!
@last Lefty
brycec, I last saw Lefty 4 hours 8 min 16 sec ago quitting: *.net *.split.
ping Lefty
pong Lefty
<rant>Pizza Hut has some fucking nasty pizza</rant>
brycec: if only I could put a potato cap on my realforce
s#Pizza Hut#Any given pizza chain/place#
<kbw> <rant>Any given pizza chain/place has some fucking nasty pizza</rant>
guess I'll have to settle for real potatos
lol jrick
It's a silly abuse of 3D printers
brycec, there aren't any small pizza places here
Only chains
Well there might be, on a different street
Not even small places are exempt though
Why? Are you a pizza hater>
My point is that various people make that statement about various places.
?
Ah
Nobody can unanimously agree on one pizza place I understand
pizza hut by me isn't terrible
but I also live in NJ, so you wouldn't go to pizza hut anyway
Likewise, and that's not biased.
Pizza Hut is the worst for me
lol bcallah
Dominoes is pretty good
I used to swear by papa john's
And this local place I forget about, back when I lived in florida
lol
bcallah, is there a lot of different pizza shops there?
there ain't no such thing as "local place" here
everyone in NYC/NJ area lives within delivery distance of at least 10 pizzarias
huh
bcallah: Well sure, that would be "10 local places" though
not really
"local place" anything that isn't a big chain
because it's very often you'll go to one outside your delivery distance
because, fuck it, you're 10 minutes from home and want to bring home a pizza
Which is better in terms of culture, NJ or NY state?
Excluding new york city
not useful: NY state and NJ are so large they have many different cultures
I live in the part of NJ that's basically an extension of NYC
Large in terms of population?
so a lot of people here (myself included) are displaced city people
large in terms of pop and geographic distance to culture centers
south jersey is dominated by philly culture
and philly sucks
no one likes philly
or south jersey
Here the only visible non-American culture is Mexican
except atlantic city
atlantic city is badass
you're figure that our in like 10 years
s/our/out/
<bcallah> you're figure that out in like 10 years
fuck
s/our/out/ | s/re/ll/
<bcallah> you'll figull that out in like 10 years
One of my friends is Cuban, he comes from the same Florida neighborhood I came from
s/b.+ss/boring/
<bcallah> atlantic city is boring
Really interesting coincidence
bcallah, are most NJ/NY inhabitants as angry as you are?
kyl: that's because you don't drink like I do :D
truth
kbw: in NYC, everyone hate you
s/hate/hates/
<bcallah> kbw: in NYC, everyone hates you
I hear you guys LOVE tourists
I hate tourists
I used to be in the WTC area a lot for nycbug stuff.
HATED being there
I'll make sure to bring my statue of liberty hat and start up conversations on the subway
fucking tourists just stand around like idiots
I got fucking places to be
And make sure to press my face against the window whenever I board a bus
bcallah: I hear that gripe a lot from SNL and the like... And it's really that bad?
If I go to NYC I'll bring my trusty list of things that piss off natives
bcallah, how popular is your BUG there?
I saw that you were on BSD Now talking about it, but I never watched the episode
Too much of a download
nycbug is among the healthiest bugs, if not the healthiest
s/B/M/ | s/[A-Z]/[a-z]/
<kbw> [a-z] saw that you were on [a-z][a-z][a-z] [a-z]ow talking about it, but [a-z] never watched the episode
fuck
we wield disproportionate influence for our size
neat
extremely disproportionate
There is a UNIX users group on the end of the stree I'm on
It seems pretty corporate though
It isn't the traditional sandals+tee-shirt organization where you discuss various distros and talk about hating The Man(microsoft)
bcallah, at an estimate, how many attendees are there on average?
20-30
our conferences sell out
but we only do that once a year
That's quite a bit
I never attended AUUG, I figure it's not my crowd
we're the respected user group
The people who attend that use UNIX for their jobs
many attendees don't use bsd at all
There's always some kind of sponsorship or presentation by some corporation
but they know nycbug is where the serious people are
Not my thing
so they come to learn something
bcallah, are they mostly desktop BSD users?
lol no
Or do they all use Macs like the BSD user stereotype specifies
if you want to lol desktop, go to nylug
no - we're BSD users
that means everywhere
ah
our work, our homes
everywhere
there's no distinction for "desktop BSD"
you use BSD
If they're serious about using it they must not use it on every one of their devices
As their sole OS that is
that makes literally no sense
bcallah, have you ever been to a LUG?
sure
I have never attended one
bcallah, what are the people there like?
what do you think a BUG or a UUG is?
it's the same thing
just focused around BSD
Kissless neckbeards whose skin hints of basement dwelling?
I figure LUGs would have desktop Linux users mainly
I might be wrong
yeah, it's mostly lol desktop the one's I've been to
that's why I don't frequent them
Ah
Georgia Tech has a LUG
I'm not interested in the latest X compositor
I want to fucking learn something
I might take MARTA over there at my next meeting
*their
No car :v
where I'm going there's a LUG and a (dormant) BUG
so I'm gonna restart the BUG, and be the badass BSD guy in the back of the room at the LUGs
"at the next LUG meeting we'll learn how systemd now automatically downloads and installs graphics drivers"
bcallah, have you ever visited 4chan.org/g?
Would you say LUG attendees might browse that site?
Do many of them have a ranging interest in the viewing of anime or ricing their desktop?
elalo_, hehe
I'm interested in OpenBSD's systemd supplicant
kbw: why the fuck would I know what anyone else does who isn't me?
unless someone explicitly tells me
Dunno
an protip: if you think I give a shit about what $RANDOM does, think again
Ok
I know what my friends do because they tell me
Some of them are into anime some of them aren't
yes, I know what my friends do
Then maybe your friends don't attend LUGs?
but the set of all of my friends and the set of all LUG attendees has 0 overlap
I don't see myself going to a LUG and not socializing
If it's focused around Linux I might as well ask people I meet what distro they use
lol
socializing
bcallah, do your friends use BSD as well?
the ones that understand computers do
coding can be fun! https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Og2EBG4N5M
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iJustine...
ugh
this is more ugh than normal
s/normal/usual
<elalo_> this is more ugh than usual
I never knew any Linux users who dedicated themselves to learn about it
Only a couple guys who dual booted it or ran it on their secondary computers that they hardly touched
And certainly no BSD users
maybe, and this is just a big fucking maybe because of who I'm gonna address this to
but just fucking maybe, you'll go LEARN something about a BSD, I don't actually give a shit which one (though I will judge you as an idiot if you pick the wrong one)
and then you'll be able to speak intelligently about BSD
and then maybe you won't be so much of a dumbass you can go to conferences and shit
and then make friends with real BSD users and devs
There isn't any BSD groups in my state I don't think
holy fuck, I just gave you the best god damn life plan ever
I really can't believe how amazing I am.
Your sarcasm can be painful to read at times :v
oh no, that was in no way sarcasm
I am clearly the greatest thing to ever happen to you.
"greatest"
I gave you a fucking life plan.
how many people gonna do that for you?
You might have made me consider learning something about BSD but nothing much more
and I don't even like you!
am I not merciful?
bcallah, writing ports can't get me a job
Neither can any kind of BSD development, here at least
of course it can
you just haven't figured out how
BSD development got me an NSF fellowship
it's not that hard
twss!
just figure out how to market yourself and not be a bitch
It's not hard to get an NSF fellowship? :p
tho you should probably work on the not being a bitch thing first
kbw: how many people you know with an NSF fellowship?
None.
yeah, cause they're super hard to get and incredibly prestigious
I don't know anybody with a diploma either, with the exception of a couple people.
I don't even contact the people I knew who graduated.
bcallah, do you use BSD for your job?
If you do, I hope it isn't to intrusive to ask you what you do
what I propose to do for my Ph.D. dissertation is predicated on me being an OpenBSD dev
what are the odds that kbw is really bcallah, and that all of this is an exercise in self-esteem?
zero
Okay, you got me.
If I want self-esteem, I'll just go fuck a girl
Don't listen to myself
I have plenty of those
sorry but you don't have the cadence or vocabulary to impersonate me
Your vocabulary hasn
't been very extensive in my prescence
s/prescence/presence
<kbw> 't been very extensive in my presence
Mmm
you haven't been around long enough
bcallah, maybe you wouldn't have misspelled that
all my mispelling are intentional
hehe
I wonder if getting stoned increases programming productivity like they say
absolutely not.
I've seen drunk programmers here
it increases creativeity, not productivity.
They can hardly type
elalo_, I see
elalo_, the reason I ask is because during the entire development of a project I know of the sole developer claimed to have been under the influence
elalo_, http://github.com/vendu/OS-Zero
comments such as 'another bunch of changes :)' do not inspire confidence.
Hehe
I remember having to change my commit message some 7 times when I was contributing to hexchat
I hardly knew how to use git
Is there any reason why OpenBSD still stands by cvs?
Hitler told me that git is pretty terrible, so maybe that's why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts
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kbw: where did you live in FL?
Sarasota and Cocoa Beach
ah nice
At two different times
I liked Cocoa better just because a lot of my family was there and the waves were bigger
i used to work in st pete, i live about an hour north of there in pasco
My family goes back several generations in that city :D
most of my family is in pinellas
Neat
some are scattered in the country, but for the most part they are here
I'm going to Sarasota next week to visit my grandparents, and Cocoa beach afterwards to visit some other family.
My Dad's family lives overseas
kbw: as I am sure you are aware, it is hot and disgusting here right now
heh
22:30 < kbw> Is there any reason why OpenBSD still stands by cvs?
go fucking read some mailing lists
the "feels like" temp today was 109F
zod000, D:
zod000, Hopefully that will clear up when I'm there
kbw: if you are bring cool weather with you, you are a god damned sorceror
hehe
It's not very cool here either
and i will applaud your spells
kbw: where are you now?
But it isn't humid like it was earlier in the year
Atlanta
oh yeah, atlanta can get quite hot
My dad is a registered investment advisor here
Used to be a stock broker
ohai zod000... wb
hiya CosmiCruz
Part of me wants to live in Florida again :/
everyone else in the house is now asleep, i finally have a moment of peace
kbw: a lot of my family lives directly on the beach, i admit, it would be pretty awesome to live in that area
zod000: o/
expensive as hell though
\o
moments of peace \o/
Yeah
I used to be located in the suburbs north of here, things were much cheaper there
I'm not sure about the price of real estate, I'm not the one who pays the bills
kbw: i have a friend that lives in alphareta (sp?)
it seemed nice when i visited
I've never been there
he commutes in to atlanta
Neato
i don't think I'd like to live in atlanta, but being in the burbs might not be so bad
I don't like the suburbs here.
Too many country people :p
I always say outside of Atlanta it's "the south".
yeah, thats no good
yeah, i have always had a saying "the problem with geogia is that it is full of georgians"
atlanta is mostly the exception
:)
hehe
i dated it a girl from georgia
she was so fucking georgian
Most of the commuters stick inside their office complexes
was awful
haha
I don't have to see them usually
i am pretty happy where i am living right now, but 90% of FL would not be acceptable to me
hehe
Stay on the coast and you're safe
Safe from the people, not hurricanes :p
i want : A> minimal country/rednecks B> nice homes and neighborhoods C> access to city like things when I want them (restaurants, malls, general civilization) and D> not crazy traffic and general busy bullshit
zod000, the traffic could easily be solved by a marta expansion
But what is mainly blocking that is cobb county
zod000, our bus/metro authority
ah
our bus system sucks
cobb refuses to allow them to build a station in the north
Our buses are a bit dangerous I heard
I've never used them
mainyl because the only people that ride the bus seem to be people that can't afford a car
and who wants to ride with them?
lol
zod000, that's the problem with most bus systems
zod000, unless you're in somewhere like new york where some working class people don't have cars
i imagine in true big cities, cars end up being a liability rather than a benefit
zod000++
Just to be clear Atlanta is not one of those cities
no?
i guess it is probably because the streets actually work there
Yeah, no middle class people use the buses
To my knowledge
There's a racist joke about MARTA
Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta
I lol'd, but i felt suitably bad about it
heh
It's an old joke
hello again cosmicruz
zod000, I'm just glad I'm out of the suburbs. Public transportation = good for some carless person like me :D
lol
hello, elalo_ :D
how's it going?
brb getting another beer
MOAR BEER
beer: la fin du monde
Unibroue (1990 : http://www.unibroue.com/ ) La Fin Du Monde ( ABV: 9 IBU: 19 ) - La Fin du Monde has a brilliant golden color with vigorously effervescent foam. It is midly yeasty with a complex palate of malt, fruit and spice notes followed by a smooth, dry finish. La Fin du Monde was developed through 18 months of research on a unique strain of yeast originating from Europe. It is brewed in honor of the intrepid European explorers who believed they had rea
orth America ‘the new world’. This triple-style golden ale recreates the style of beer originally developed in the Middle Ages by trappist monks for special occasions and as such it was the first of its kind to be brewed in North America.
mcchunkie: botsnack
=.=
mcchunkie: o/
\o
protip?
Don't mix up + and -
I'm enjoying Georgua's signature brand of fizzy sugar water :D
brotip?
Don't make a mistake,e ver.
lol
kusuriya: TO THE CLOUD!!!
TO THE CLOUD!!!
hmm looks like a few more months and we will know if chinas lunar rover hunkered down correctly
it should be back in radio range by then :D
TO THE CLOUD!
TO THE CLOUD!!!
kbw: what do you mean "signature brand"?
zod000, a well known brand in my state
I used it in the wrong context I know
Do any of you guys understand linker scripts?
not I
the beer is helping me leaving understanding of things at the door
<- out of beer :'(
:(
i am stocked up
time to pour the rum
jrick: yo ho, it's a pirate's life for me
goodnight, all <3
goodnight cosmicruz
this is the first time i have had lagunitas pilsner. it is good.
fucking idiots are already shooting off fireworks
zod000: throw beer bottles
hehe
if they wake my kids up i will murderize them
kill some redcoats
PEW PEW GUYS!
fuck yeah
http://wecan.hasthe.technology/
Why the fuck is this DNS shit allowed
why not
kbw: are you gary?
Nope
k
elalo_, I'm vaguely insulted you see resemblance between us :p
i haven't interacted with gary.
I came into his channel thinking not much of it, found out he was a psycho, and trolled my way into getting banned
Also trolled in PM with him
kusuriya: you're about 300mi too far West to get away with that shit :p
New OpenBSD snapshots for sgi! (Fri Jun 27 2014 20:54:45 GMT-0700(PDT))
lol
SirSkidmore: brycec on #devious says: KILLALLH1MANS01 is not a bot, especially not running on devio.us. It's me, logged in from devio.us, evidenced by the hostmask.
kyl: you dick
kyl: ^
my autorejoin apparently still doesn't work
and I was out to dinner
lol we thought you were pissed :p
no
I was just gone lol
Also you seemed to be "here" at the time
brycec: yeah, I left in a hurry
nbdjs
I tend to leave without saying that I'm leaving a lot
alright, well I'm heading to bed
night all