#devious 2014-06-27,Fri

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BryceBot	New OpenBSD snapshots for zaurus! (Fri Jun 27 2014 03:04:41 GMT-0700(PDT))	[04:22]
ampharos	anyone have a zaurus here?	[04:23]
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SirSkidmore	ampharos: I think someone does I just can't remember who	[04:56]
ampharos	i have an N900, nice thing openbsd support would be god tier i know winocm ported darwin to it but she did nothing else with that	[04:57]
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SirSkidmore	ampharos: I think kyl might have it?	[05:12]
dbtid	greetings	[05:20]
SirSkidmore	hey dbtid	[05:20]
dbtid	hi SirSkidmore	[05:20]
jorey	ehlo dbtid and SirSkidmore. and everyone else.	[05:20]
dbtid	hi jorey	[05:21]
SirSkidmore	at least it's friday	[05:29]
dbtid	at least	[05:31]
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jrick	mernin	[06:02]
dbtid	hi jrick how are you this FINE friday morning?	[06:04]
jrick	I am FINE	[06:04]
dbtid	FINE BE THAT WAY THEN	[06:04]
jrick	I WILL	[06:04]
dbtid	FINE	[06:04]
jrick	GOOD DAY SIR	[06:04]
dbtid	RIGHT http://bash.org/?23396	[06:04]
BryceBot	Bash.org: "Quote #23396"	[06:05]
dbtid	http://bash.org/?5273	[06:05]
BryceBot	Bash.org: "Quote #5273"	[06:05]
dbtid	too bad bash.org seems to have died	[06:05]
Nei	died?	[06:09]
SirSkidmore	haha dbtid that second one was one of my favorites	[06:09]
dbtid	SirSkidmore: it's been one of my favorites, too, for a long time.	[06:10]
SirSkidmore	I read like the top 200 at one time	[06:11]
jorey	only?	[06:11]
dbtid	i've done that before: put a machine under a bunch of stuff and then forgot about it.	[06:11]
jrick	Nei: no no, it's, uh, resting	[06:11]
jorey	SirSkidmore: http://bash.org/?random1 now.	[06:11]
dbtid	could only find it by hunting down the ehternet cable. *ethernet	[06:11]
jorey	SirSkidmore: and keep refreshing.	[06:11]
dbtid	jorey: only what?	[06:11]
jorey	"only the top 200?"	[06:11]
dbtid	and yes, it's dead: there haven't been any new posts in a looooooooong time. and it makes me sad dbtid sads	[06:11]
jorey	yeah, that's a pity well, there were a very few new posts a few years ago, 2-3 i think but there were a few quiet years before that and ever since	[06:12]
SirSkidmore	jorey: well I mean there are 4400 quotes pending	[06:12]
dbtid	4345 not enough to round up to 4400 SirSkidmore: do we need to send you back to 4th grade math???	[06:13]
SirSkidmore	oops totally saw that as 4845	[06:13]
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jrick	bash.org is probably pining for the fjords	[06:14]
dbtid	http://bash.org/?287414 story of pete	[06:15]
BryceBot	Bash.org: "Quote #287414"	[06:15]
SirSkidmore	dbtid: yeah that's in the top 100 I think	[06:16]
Nei	why doesnt BryceBot just read us the quote mhm. might be too long I guess	[06:16]
jorey	because some are long	[06:16]
Nei	could show the first line tho	[06:16]
jorey	to remind us who spent lots of time reading bash quotes of them without having to open the link?)	[06:17]
Nei	:D	[06:17]
SirSkidmore	http://bash.org/?44584 >.>	[06:18]
BryceBot	Bash.org: "Quote #44584"	[06:18]
SirSkidmore	would have been so much faster just to fix the typo >.>	[06:19]
dbtid	don't get it.	[06:19]
jrick	whoosh	[06:19]
BryceBot	Bye jrick!	[06:19]
dbtid	bye back to work!!	[06:19]
SirSkidmore	I think instead of fixing the typo he just added a footnote thing	[06:19]
jorey	SirSkidmore: especially with BryceBot.	[06:20]
jrick	it would be like me just typing something and then I tpyo[1] a word somewhere	[06:21]
jorey	[1]typo	[06:21]
jrick	thanks	[06:21]
jorey	you're welcome.	[06:21]
SirSkidmore	ugh I put in a request to get a visual studio key at work on monday and after several followups have heard nothing back so probably another day without doing much	[06:26]
dbtid	whee!	[06:28]
bcallah	SirSkidmore: no blog posts!	[06:29]
jorey	i forgot whether you're in college or not. if you are, check whether you can get one via msdnaa (if you terribly need it and you can't get one from your employer)	[06:29]
SirSkidmore	jorey: they don't one using a student license for work stuff bcallah: I thought I pushed them up last night? hmm weird	[06:30]
bcallah	negative	[06:31]
SirSkidmore	oh my rsync must not have worked	[06:32]
jorey	SirSkidmore: right. nevermind me, i derped.	[06:33]
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qbit	halla	[06:57]
dbtid	qbit: o/ time for more coffee	[07:00]
CyL	Okay folks, I'm seeking for some advice, I haven't played video games in like 15 to 20 years, but now I'm looking forward to buy something with motion sensor, mainly to have fun with GF and her kid. Any advice on platforms and/or games?	[07:01]
zod000	Cyl: motion sensor ala WiiU, Kinect, etc?	[07:02]
CyL	zod000: Yep, sorry I don't know how this accessories are actually called. zod000: Something with 3D would also be nice, I guess.	[07:02]
zod000	CyL: nearly all of them are tied to their respective platform. nintendo makes the Wii and WiiU, Microsoft makes the Kinect for xbox, and Sony makes the Move I haven't seen a general purpose model for an open platform like PC that i would recommend yet	[07:03]
CyL	zod000: Never heard of Move before, wasn't it playstation that Sony made?	[07:04]
zod000	zentrified: the Move is Son'y Wii-like attachment err CyL sorry zentrified	[07:04]
CyL	zod000: Okay I get it.	[07:04]
zod000	CyL: I happen to have Wii and the Move, and I rarely use either I personally do not care for them, I got the Wii for the family, and they never use it sadly	[07:04]
CyL	zod000: What about the number of games, specially for younger players like my gf's daughter (5 y/o), and for playing with whole family	[07:05]
dbtid	zod000: o/	[07:05]
zod000	I got the move because it was 90% off and came with two games and some machinegun like attachment. it was worth getting just to play House of the Dead with friends while drinking, but I haven't enjoyed it with much else o	[07:06]
CyL	zod000: I get it...	[07:06]
zod000	CyL: the kinect is different, no controller, just a motion sensor great for dance games, but as it lacks any sort of button, it is the most limited imp imo it does so a lot of voice activated stuff some people love	[07:06]
CyL	zod000: Good to know about that. So the Move actually has a controller of some kind? zod000: Unfortunatelly I believe that would be more for English...	[07:07]
zod000	CyL: yes, the Move is a controller and camera combo the controllers are bluetooth just like the ps3 controllers it is ps3 only though	[07:07]
CyL	Oh okay zod000: Do you have kids?	[07:08]
zod000	well, technically you could probably hack something for pc, but i know of only preliminary stuff CyL: yes, three	[07:08]
SirSkidmore	bcallah: fixed.	[07:08]
CyL	zod000: Any of them in same same age range as mine?	[07:09]
zod000	CyL: how old are yours? CyL: mine are 1.5, 5, and 14	[07:09]
CyL	zod000: I don't have kids of my own. I was actually refering to my gf's daughter, since most of the time I'm the closest of a father she haves. She is 5. zod000: So, at the age of 5, what's the hype besides Monster High? Specially in the electronic entertainment area (something that would gather the family together). zod000: She is craving for a tablet, but everytime she has got one in her hands, it's like she's hipnotized or in some other universe.	[07:09]
qbit	dbtid: o how goes ?	[07:13]
dbtid	CyL: be careful about that. we carefully regulate our kids' time on those things. qbit: o/ dude! i'm good. how are you?	[07:13]
qbit	doing good gettin tired of all these snakes on these mother fuckin planes	[07:13]
dbtid	oh?	[07:14]
zod000	CyL: my 5 year old doesn't like playing the motion games or console much, she loves her tablet though	[07:14]
dbtid	did you pet snake collection get loose again?	[07:14]
CyL	dbtid: Thanks for your adivce, we take a lot of care about it tough. I'm the only one in the house with a smartphone, and I won't give it to her. She only play those thing eventually. zod000: The problem with tablets is that it splits the family, not gather it together.	[07:14]
dbtid	same with smartphones	[07:15]
CyL	dbtid: Yep. Any advice on this?	[07:16]
zod000	CyL: well sure, and maybe your family differs a lot from mine, but finding an activity for the entire family (or nearly) to do and actually getting them all to do it is a rare occasion	[07:16]
SirSkidmore	yeah... my 12 year old brother is constantly staring at a screen	[07:16]
CyL	SirSkidmore: I'm constantly staring at screen as well. And also tmux...	[07:16]
zod000	CyL: i have better luck with getting people to play a board game than anything else	[07:17]
SirSkidmore	and even when his friends come over, they never do anything. They don't talk or play games. They're just browsing Vine/Twitter/Youtube and occasionally showing each other a video it's awkward to be around	[07:17]
zod000	SirSkidmore: sad we have an anti-tablet/phone rule if my daughters friends are over	[07:17]
SirSkidmore	zod000: yeah. I have 6 or 7 designer board games that after I convinced my friends to try are all hooked on. It's what we usually do	[07:17]
zod000	she can do that when they aren't here, and they can do that at home	[07:17]
SirSkidmore	between the 5 or 6 people in my freind group we probably have 20-30 games we rotate	[07:18]
zod000	SirSkidmore: nice!	[07:18]
SirSkidmore	zod000: yeah!	[07:18]
zod000	the only game we regularly play is cards agaisnt humanity	[07:18]
kusuriya	haha I had to read this signature twice, this indian support agent is calling himself Murrica	[07:18]
SirSkidmore	uggggg zod000: hate that	[07:18]
zod000	my wife won't play most board games with me anymore	[07:18]
CyL	zod000: We play them a lot. But she is very, very active, and I thought something that made her move and entertain would be nice. Unfortunatelly we don't have any neighbour kids, so she only have contact with kids while at school.	[07:18]
zod000	SirSkidmore: we have a great time with it	[07:18]
SirSkidmore	zod000: my friends never wanted to play Battlestar Galactice the board game, but then I convinced them to try it finally, and they all got hooked on board games haha zod000: it just gets stale quicky.	[07:19]
CyL	zod000: Because she is competitive?	[07:19]
zod000	SirSkidmore: well, we don't play it THAT often, and we have all the expansion packs and made our own cards CyL: no, because she isn't and I am a lot better at them.	[07:19]
SirSkidmore	hitler jokes always win for person a, black jokes always win for person b; "jerking off into a pool of childrent's tears: good to the last drop" is only funny so many times zod000: we play Battlestar, Pandemic, Russian Railroads, and Louis and Clark a lot	[07:20]
CyL	WTF, board games are a universe appart, never heard of these	[07:21]
zod000	SirSkidmore: yeah my wife and her friends will never play those, and my friends might, but once we reach a certain beer level, it will fall apart	[07:21]
SirSkidmore	CyL: yeah.. they're "designer" board games	[07:21]
bcallah	SirSkidmore: CURL?!?!? why would you use curl? ftp works better and is in base	[07:21]
zod000	zod000 curls some weights	[07:21]
SirSkidmore	bcallah: Okay; will edit	[07:21]
zod000	what's wrong with curl?	[07:21]
bcallah	it's not in case base	[07:21]
CyL	http://www.justlia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/cara-a-cara001.jpg <-- that's what I usually play with her, she loves it	[07:22]
bcallah	also, after you've used aria2 you'll never want to go back to curl	[07:22]
CyL	http://isuba.s8.com.br/produtos/01/00/item/111703/7/111703711SZ.jpg <-- and that's the closets resemblant of a video game we ever play together	[07:22]
zod000	bcallah: that is way heavier than what i need, I use curl to do what i could get done wit hwget, but a little better CyL: i play arcade games with my daughter	[07:23]
bcallah	zod000: torrent and magnet links	[07:23]
zod000	like TMNT, golden axe, magic sword, battletoads, etc	[07:24]
CyL	zod000: Arcade games, like the one with a little steel ball? zod000: Oh, like those..	[07:24]
bcallah	zod000: I saw a 4-player 1CC of Ninja Baseball Batman the other day	[07:24]
zod000	CyL: well i have one of these http://www.xgaming.com/store/arcade-joysticks-and-game-controllers/product/x-arcade-dual-joystick/	[07:24]
bcallah	was hilariously awesome	[07:24]
jrick	so much fun seeing dev teams argue about coding style	[07:25]
zod000	those games work well because i can do most of the actual work she she thinks she is doing well heh	[07:25]
bcallah	(also, technically you should cp /bsd.rd to /obsd.rd )	[07:25]
kyl	coding style is more important than the code itself	[07:25]
bcallah	that way you can still boot off a ramdisk if you need	[07:25]
CyL	zod000: Nice.	[07:26]
SirSkidmore	bcallah: fixed	[07:26]
zod000	that controller also does well for the "twin stick" games like smash tv	[07:26]
CyL	zod000: It's really nice looking and sounds great, but I'm kind of reluctant of getting something that would put me on a chair or sofa	[07:27]
zod000	CyL: i have it at a tall desk so it is the same height (more or less) as a real arcade machine	[07:28]
SirSkidmore	bcallah: Did I miss anything for the setup? There was about 2 days between me installing and writing the post.	[07:28]
zod000	i play on building an arcade cabinet to hold it CyL: but yes, certainly not for everyone	[07:28]
SirSkidmore	I thought I wrote most of it down so I wouldn't forget, but I feel like I missed something	[07:29]
CyL	zod000, dbtid: thanks for you rnice advice folks, I'm still kind of learning how to deal with kids Got to go, time for lunch.	[07:30]
zod000	cya CyL	[07:31]
bcallah	There's no way you could have installed msttcorefonts from packages (there is no package for it).	[07:33]
SirSkidmore	oops typo	[07:33]
bcallah	and the reason to cp /bsd.rd /obsd.rd is in case something's wrong with /bsd.rd and for need the old ramdisk for something i.e. download corruption	[07:33]
SirSkidmore	I even put that there weren't any packages haha	[07:34]
bcallah	but in practice, it's probably not necessary just something I tend to do	[07:34]
qbit	wtf	[07:34]
bcallah	since I blow it all away with a clean install anyway	[07:34]
qbit	bcallah: you runnin the latest amd64 snap?	[07:34]
bcallah	nope you?	[07:34]
qbit	ssh-add seems to have shit the bed	[07:34]
bcallah	psure that's already known	[07:35]
qbit	qbit reads some email	[07:35]
SirSkidmore	so technically, you don't need to download the bsd.rd from the new arch either?	[07:35]
bcallah	also, if you have inet access and can watch video from where you are... twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda the game they're playing is Metal Wolf Chaos it's hilarious	[07:36]
qbit	yer hilarious!	[07:37]
bcallah	am	[07:38]
SirSkidmore	bcallah: okay. Hopefully it's all fixed now	[07:38]
piroko	Getting new tires for the fr-s today. Excited	[07:45]
qbit	rad new tires rock it's like a new car	[07:52]
lteo	how much space does the fr-s have in the back for big car seats?	[07:54]
SirSkidmore	hmm	[07:54]
jrick	they advertise it as having enough space for your tires	[07:54]
SirSkidmore	13 minutes remiaing for a 20mb zip file >.>	[07:54]
qbit	tire-babies	[07:57]
dbtid	lteo: o/	[08:06]
lteo	dbtid: o	[08:06]
jrick	lteo: you should get a hot hatch instead	[08:07]
brycec	lolololteo asking about space for a car seat in a sportster	[08:09]
dbtid	i think you should buy an Escalade ESV your kids will love it	[08:10]
brycec	ESV - Extra Slutty Version? East-Siiiide Version? Extremely Sordid Version?	[08:15]
jrick	extra slutty version was always my favorite bible transalation	[08:16]
lteo	jrick: what?? you're not a KJV fundie??! brycec: would be fun to drive around with a souped up sportster with big spoilers and all, and with huge car seats in the back seat	[08:17]
zod000	jrick: "And Moses said 'Met my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'" s/Met/Let/	[08:20]
BryceBot	<zod000> jrick: "And Moses said 'Let my people have an Escalade Extra Slutty Version'"	[08:20]
zod000	zod000 is not familar with that passage	[08:20]
SirSkidmore	zod000: obviosuly it's in Cinton 5:11	[08:23]
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lteo	i keep mistyping postgresql as potsgresql	[08:51]
qbit	heh lteo: i often type "postgisql"	[08:54]
eest	lteo: can you imagine running a website using postgresql _and_ lighttpd :P	[09:00]
dvl_	I often type fuck you, when I mean, oh?	[09:01]
lteo	heh i'm the other way round dvl_: oh	[09:02]
dvl_	Every 'whatever' has a little bit of 'fuck you'.	[09:03]
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lteo	dvl_: whatever man ;)	[09:07]
qbit	what. ever. man. SirSkidmore: you use manifest?	[09:08]
piroko	lteo: FR-S has enough room for car seats	[09:10]
qbit	nice	[09:11]
piroko	I actually just rode in the back of a brz on my way back from the tire place. If I can fit, a car seat can fit	[09:11]
qbit	agreein	[09:11]
dbtid	ESV == Extra Sweet Version	[09:13]
qbit	ew sweet and meat don't go imo :D	[09:13]
dbtid	so you want Extra Sweet Vagina? i can say that word here, right? no underage kids here?	[09:14]
jrick	80 character line length limit: the greatest foe of concurrent code	[09:15]
qbit	lol dbtid: think you can :D	[09:20]
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kusuriya	luckily for you the 80 char limit isnt part of the spec unlike SMTP headers :P	[09:35]
SirSkidmore	qbit: ?	[09:48]
qbit	SirSkidmore: https://github.com/gigamonkey/manifest	[09:50]
SirSkidmore	qbit: no I don't do a ton of CL I've done quite a bit of scheme	[09:50]
qbit	scheme on my friend ;D	[09:52]
SirSkidmore	it's what my school teaches	[09:52]
qbit	nice you use stumpwm ya?	[09:52]
SirSkidmore	yeah FUCK forgot I had a ADN developer account tied to my paypal just overdrafterd hard	[09:59]
mcchunkie	TWSS!	[10:00]
brycec	Why do you hate ADN so much? Are you trying to bankrupt them???	[10:00]
SirSkidmore	brycec: wait what and my paypal was tied to my old bank acct #	[10:00]
brycec	Clearly you're trying to short ADN their money.	[10:01]
SirSkidmore	so I have no money and it takes 2-3 days for it to appear in my new bank so I can transfer money over well crap this is an expensive mistake a $70 mistake...	[10:01]
brycec	Man, why doesn't nmap scan ipv6 ranges? It's not like the smallest subnet is undectillion addresses or anything. 18446744073709551616 isn't that many, is it? @wa 18446744073709551616	[10:02]
BryceBot	18446744073709551616;1.8446744073709551616 × 10^19;18 quintillion ...;18 billion billion ...;20 decimal digits;10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000_2;2^64;m->2->3->4->5->6->7->8->9, 18 446 744 ... 551 616 mod m->0->1->0->1->4->2->0->7;18446744073709551616 is an even number.;18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power.;A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible with straightedge and compass.	[10:02]
brycec	"A regular 18446744073709551616-gon is constructible" this sentence seems false.	[10:03]
bcallah	bcallah hands brycec a straightedge and compass only one way to find out!	[10:05]
brycec	brycec kiks self *kills	[10:05]
dbtid	grrr these guys broke this damn web page now everything is going to be more difficult	[10:06]
brycec	"18446744073709551616 = 2^64 is a perfect 64th power" gee no kidding, Wolframalpha :D	[10:07]
SirSkidmore	brycec: did you want to play with the ADN api? I can let you use this account I don't want it to go to waste	[10:09]
brycec	SirSkidmore: that's generous, thank you. I actually found dalton's (I think) api-lite stuff	[10:10]
SirSkidmore	duerigs	[10:10]
brycec	Yeah knew it was a d	[10:10]
SirSkidmore	do you want a full API?	[10:10]
brycec	(and then I forgot about the project altogether)	[10:10]
SirSkidmore	I'd hate to see this all go to waste	[10:10]
dbtid	OF FOR FUCK'S SAKE! WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?! IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!! s/OF/OH/	[10:11]
BryceBot	<dbtid> OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE! WHY CAN'T FIREFOX USE PROXIES CORRECTLY?! IT WORKS ON FUCKING CHROME!!!!!	[10:11]
qbit	SirSkidmore: doooh	[10:11]
brycec	Wow that's saying something, dbtid	[10:11]
dbtid	i can get to doc.opensuse.com but not www.google.com WTF!?	[10:11]
brycec	Since FF's proxy configs are >>> than Chrome's	[10:11]
SirSkidmore	qbit: yeah I'm kind of mad at myself I was planning on closing this account today too >.>	[10:12]
dbtid	yeah, well, they're not working now.	[10:12]
SirSkidmore	and while I'm at it, let me go change over my papypal info	[10:12]
dbtid	SirSkidmore: post it here so we can help you.	[10:12]
qbit	SirSkidmore: glad it happened tho - reminded me to drop my dev account ;D	[10:12]
brycec	brycec is still waiting for ADN integration into Bitlbee	[10:13]
SirSkidmore	I'm kind of really sad to see adn on a sudden decline :/	[10:13]
brycec	>.> <.<	[10:13]
dbtid	this is nuts	[10:13]
brycec	s/this is/I am/	[10:13]
BryceBot	<dbtid> I am nuts	[10:13]
dbtid	i can get to several pages, but not ones i really need. i can get to openbsd.org and linux-wireless.org can't get to yahoo.com google.com or a few other sites.	[10:14]
brycec	dbtid: does FF give an error message? something useful?	[10:14]
dbtid	FF isn't useful for anything anymore. no. it says nothing.	[10:14]
brycec	So it's just a blank page?	[10:14]
dbtid	it says "Waiting for <websitenamehere>..." has no problem with some sites	[10:15]
brycec	What type of proxy?	[10:15]
dbtid	i go over to my windows machine (granted, on another network, but goes through the same upper layers) and have no problems. i don't know the brand.	[10:15]
brycec	http? socks?	[10:15]
dbtid	http	[10:16]
brycec	dbtid: do you have an https proxy set?	[10:16]
dbtid	/etc/sysconfig/proxy contains HTTP_PROXY HTTPS_PROXY and FTP_PROXY all set to the same value.	[10:16]
brycec	every site you aren't able to hit is one on the auto-https list	[10:16]
dbtid	chrome has no problem using these i tell FF to use the system proxies.	[10:16]
brycec	so try setting them manually?	[10:16]
dbtid	ah no i didn't hit the check mark to say use all the same ok here's what's happening if i tell ff to use the system settings, it fails	[10:17]
SirSkidmore	well	[10:17]
dbtid	if i set it manually and say "use all" it works	[10:17]
SirSkidmore	this sucks >.>	[10:18]
dbtid	it works now but seriously. that sucked.	[10:18]
brycec	(A bunch of relevant, but useless google hits for the issue)	[10:19]
dbtid	ok, so this site i'm using (an internal site) has some untrusted scripts, which chrome refuses to say anything about, but when used with FF, FF actually prompts and then lets me run the scripts. so that's one thing FF lets me do that chrome won't now le's see if all this infrastructure BS we pay for will work.	[10:20]
brycec	I'm a fan of Chrome's approach - don't confuse the idiots and keep them reasonably secure. Devs know to look in the console for errors.	[10:28]
jrick	https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/golang-nuts/sN6BFoli5GE	[10:28]
brycec	(Anything to keep from confusing the stupid users)	[10:28]
jrick	wtf	[10:28]
SirSkidmore	"Y'know, every time I see that word, I think about the pieces of paper that floated around my Brooklyn garden one horrible September afternoon." I kind of know where he's going with that I just don't care	[10:31]
dbtid	oh this software just suck s we have indirect access to the customer machines so i tell it to take a script containing 'ps auxw > /tmp/psuaxw.txt' and put it in /tmp and then run it on upload. then i tell it to give me /tmp/psuaxw.txt does it do it? NO!?	[10:32]
SirSkidmore	jrick: that man is an idiot	[10:33]
jrick	makes for fun lunch reading though	[10:33]
SirSkidmore	"In some cases it is easy to perceive where a word might contain a negative or disturbing association - hijack is just such a word. Especially after Sep 11."	[10:34]
dbtid	agreed: what an idiot	[10:34]
SirSkidmore	wow, even Rob Pike stepped in	[10:34]
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dbtid	fun stuff	[10:36]
SirSkidmore	yeah, he's just going to wrap the method so he never has to think about it again >.>	[10:38]
jrick	someone tell him the compiler is inlining his wrapper so he's still calling Hijack	[10:38]
brycec	@golang >.>	[10:39]
BryceBot	"I believe Go is actively harming the software industry by providing a very incapable tool for building working software, yet it’s presented as a real alternative. I do not think it’s responsible to let others get introduced to such silliness." https://lobste.rs/s/gw0wsx/why_i_m_not_going_to_stop_posting_go_links/comments/rbkqse	[10:39]
brycec	slowbot is slow	[10:39]
SirSkidmore	well that was a hugely fun thread to read	[10:41]
dbtid	the Chris dude seems like an asshole :)	[10:42]
SirSkidmore	holy crap qbit: you're like the 8th person on the lobste.rs user tree huh	[10:46]
qbit	:D	[10:46]
SirSkidmore	and kyl is a moderator	[10:46]
qbit	my uid is 4	[10:47]
yrmt	hai	[10:47]
qbit	howdie yrmt	[10:47]
zod000	jrick: that Go "hijack" thread was beyond rediculous. Makes me want to fly a plane into his browser too soon?	[10:48]
yrmt	my devious shell account can't handle pkgsrc :(	[10:48]
SirSkidmore	zod000: nope I laughed	[10:49]
zod000	:D SirSkidmore: o/	[10:49]
jrick	zod000: i loled too	[10:49]
zod000	SirSkidmore: yeah qbit is like a proto-human of the lobster world	[10:49]
kyl	kyl gets to do a greenfield C project	[10:50]
zod000	i like that you can see the user tree and who invited who	[10:50]
qbit	"the gateway to devious" er for?	[10:50]
SirSkidmore	zod000: o	[10:51]
qbit	fuggin lol http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/06/fleshlight-launchpad the ad omg the ad	[10:51]
dbtid	assume NSFW?	[10:51]
zod000	haha	[10:51]
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qbit	yea there isn't much nsfw just fleshlights bouncing around	[10:53]
jrick	everything is sfw when you work from home	[10:53]
qbit	truth	[10:54]
SirSkidmore	I kind of want to click but I totally shouldn't	[10:57]
lteo	click first, think later	[10:58]
SirSkidmore	SirSkidmore prefers to think firs ona work machine s/sw/st/ shoot how do you mark the end of a word I guess that would have matched the s in prefers too SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx though	[11:00]
qbit	tr/[:upper:]/[:lower:]/	[11:05]
BryceBot	>>> SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx tholgh	[11:05]
qbit	tr/[::upper::]/[::lower::]/	[11:05]
BryceBot	>>> SirSkidmore is getting a little better at RegEx tholgh	[11:05]
qbit	qbit rage quits	[11:05]
brycec	nope qbit: not supported by php	[11:05]
qbit	tr/[a-z]/[A-Z]/	[11:05]
BryceBot	<brycec> QBIT: NOT SUPPORTED BY PHP	[11:05]
brycec	The only reason ^^ is supported is because I implemented the range-expansion. http://us1.php.net/strtr	[11:06]
qbit	snap ribo: sounds like ODESZA has some Tribe called Red in thar: https://soundcloud.com/odesza/no-sleep-mix-05	[11:06]
BryceBot	SoundCloud: "NO.SLEEP - Mix.05 by ODESZA" by ODESZA	[11:07]
qbit	or what ever TCR sampled :D	[11:07]
brycec	(for those wondering what that consists of http://sprunge.us/BKfI) Ribo's not here, maaaaan	[11:07]
dbtid	"Download a file to this asset" and "Upload a file from this asset" those are just wrong.	[11:09]
qbit	ass et brycec: Y U NO OPEN SOURCE?	[11:09]
dbtid	i've been doing communications stuff like that since 1983.	[11:09]
brycec	qbit: working on it in my limited spare time.	[11:09]
dbtid	"upload to" and "download from"	[11:09]
brycec	qbit: I don't work for Oracle, I don't have 9 hour conference calls during which i can fuck around brycec feels about ready or ragequit this job anyways	[11:10]
qbit	http://dailycurrant.com/2014/06/27/63-of-americans-think-belgium-is-a-beer-company made me lol brycec: if you open source it... we can all work on it :D	[11:10]
brycec	yeah yeah, qbit but before I release it, there's cleanup to be done.	[11:11]
lteo	twhs	[11:12]
SirSkidmore	lteo++	[11:13]
dbtid	dbtid offers brycec some tissues for his hygiene.	[11:15]
qbit	goodguy dbtid	[11:15]
kyl	qbit: they make whiskey too? or wines	[11:19]
zod000	qbit: bahaha begium should become a beer company nationalize all those breweries take over the beery world from ambev	[11:26]
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qbit	lol	[11:38]
elalo	its friday	[11:38]
lteo	*it's	[11:38]
dbtid	anyone here familiar with Axeda?	[11:38]
elalo	lteo: its friday. get off my back!	[11:38]
jrick	the week's friday its friday	[11:39]
elalo	will it be a tequila friday or a gin friday?	[11:39]
dbtid	elalo: it's	[11:39]
kyl	scotch	[11:39]
dbtid	it's it's it's it's	[11:39]
tmrd	is the server offline?	[11:39]
dbtid	it's	[11:39]
elalo	scotch makes me angry :(	[11:39]
dbtid	it's not	[11:39]
kyl	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=063jQAM6N8I	[11:39]
elalo	burbon makes me loveable	[11:39]
BryceBot	YouTube Comedy: "The It's-man & Intros of Monty Python's Flying Circus" by RobbySpry (9m 57s), 49,210 views, 265 likes and 3 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-11T22:08:26.000Z.	[11:39]
lteo	elalo: how about crotch?	[11:39]
dbtid	elalo: *bourbon	[11:39]
kyl	lteo: gonna see how everyone likes my yoda conditionals	[11:40]
elalo	elalo intentionally misspells all teh words	[11:40]
lteo	kylol	[11:40]
dbtid	like them they will not	[11:40]
lteo	kyl: you should make it yoda exim style: if (1 = = x)	[11:40]
kyl	haha I did on accident on one of them	[11:40]
lteo	@lod	[11:41]
BryceBot	ಠ_ಠ	[11:41]
dbtid	i always write my conditional that use constant with the constant on the left	[11:41]
kyl	except it was (1 = =x)	[11:41]
lteo	whoa dbtid: example?	[11:41]
kyl	dbtid: aka yoda conditionals? if (TSS_RESULT == tpm->res) { ERRROROROROROROROR; }	[11:41]
dbtid	lteo: if (0 < x) printf ("x is positiven"); i don't know how long they've been called yoda conditionals.	[11:42]
lteo	wow. mind blown	[11:42]
dbtid	i've been writing code that way for a long time (original code -- if i'm patching someone's code, i will follow what they've done). i actually had one "engineer" complain because of that.	[11:42]
lteo	lteo complains	[11:43]
dbtid	i told him it prevents common mistakes in C dbtid tases lteo	[11:43]
elalo	yoda conditionals are the win. protect yourself against forgetting to include the constant!	[11:43]
lteo	blown is mind.	[11:43]
dbtid	^my^	[11:43]
elalo	blown my mind is.	[11:43]
tmrd	apparently it's only down for me, according to isup.me	[11:44]
SirSkidmore	SirSkidmore apparently just missed a lot	[11:45]
dbtid	these fuckers wrote all this bullshit in perl	[11:45]
tmrd	brycec: can you unban me: 64.71.8.10	[11:46]
kyl	dbtid: I just like to have everything explode during _compilation_ v. runtime if I accidentally assign a const	[11:47]
jrick	assign a const wut	[11:48]
kyl	I guess I only do it for equality checks	[11:48]
dbtid	kyl: exactly kyl: do it for all conditionals -- blown will be their minds. e.g. if i leave off the < or > or ! i end up with the expression 'constant = variable' and i'm still safe.	[11:48]
CyL	@wiki yoda conditionals	[11:50]
BryceBot	Yoda conditions :: In programming jargon, Yoda conditions (also called Yoda notation) is a programming style where the two parts of an expression are reversed from the typical order in a conditional statement. A yoda condition places the constant portion of the expression on the left side of the conditional statement. The name for this programming style is derived from the Star Wars... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoda%20conditions	[11:50]
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dbtid	created in May of 2103 err created in May of 2013 sorry. i accidentally slipped there.	[11:52]
lteo	s/y s/y nip-/	[11:52]
BryceBot	<dbtid> sorry. i accidentally nip-lipped there.	[11:52]
dbtid	i forgot that when i was in the future and first wrote that. lteo: nice try but you missed dbtid tases lteo	[11:52]
jrick	s/se/ste/	[11:52]
BryceBot	>>> dbtid tastes lteo	[11:52]
dbtid	dbtid is really happy to have the fast recharge taser model jrick: >: dbtid shoots jrick with a rail gun	[11:52]
jrick	well at least one of you enjoys it	[11:53]
dbtid	jrick: oh, lteo loves to be tased.	[11:53]
lteo	wow is it me or the new generation of programmers don't get Makefiles	[11:54]
jrick	I don't get why you'd want a makefile either get a decent toolchain	[11:54]
elalo	autotools has spoiled them now everyone with $100 haircuts is coding in golang without worrying about the implications of their work! elalo gets angry all over again	[11:56]
jrick	yes every go programmer uses autotools	[11:57]
qbit	and has 100$ haircuts :D	[11:58]
kyl	kyl uses autotools and is a go programmer >.> <.<	[11:59]
jrick	TIL kyl is every go programmer	[12:00]
kyl	literally	[12:00]
jrick	that would make you literally hitler	[12:00]
qbit	basho	[12:00]
mcchunkie	weathered bones just thinking of the wind it pierces my body	[12:00]
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elalo	since when did mcchunkie become vegan	[12:00]
kyl	yesterday	[12:02]
dbtid	dbtid rocks to Bryan Adams.	[12:02]
kyl	typical	[12:04]
SirSkidmore	wtf mcchunkie	[12:04]
qbit	wut	[12:04]
jrick	protip?	[12:05]
mcchunkie	cccccwjioiojwfeiojfweijowefijoefw89u2389u23908u	[12:05]
SirSkidmore	since when does she know poetry?	[12:05]
elalo	s/mcchunkie/dbtid/	[12:05]
BryceBot	<SirSkidmore> wtf dbtid	[12:05]
SirSkidmore	lol mcchunkie I'll always remember that protip	[12:05]
dbtid	wtf elalo wtf wtf	[12:05]
qbit	SirSkidmore: always	[12:06]
dbtid	SirSkidmore: no, never always. just never.	[12:06]
kyl	otip? brotip?	[12:06]
mcchunkie	irssi segfaults on 5.4 if you do /last on an icb channel	[12:06]
kyl	brotip?	[12:06]
mcchunkie	trust is weaksauce	[12:06]
qbit	notbad	[12:06]
dbtid	qbit: mcchunkie needs a lobotomy	[12:07]
qbit	how come?	[12:07]
dbtid	mcchunkie is weaksause	[12:07]
qbit	wat	[12:08]
SirSkidmore	protip protip?	[12:08]
mcchunkie	the best coding font is comic sans.	[12:08]
SirSkidmore	lol protip?	[12:08]
mcchunkie	British Columbia is best Columbia	[12:08]
dbtid	the database is full of nonsense Colombia is the best Columbia	[12:08]
SirSkidmore	@rms	[12:10]
BryceBot	Richard Stallman says: I never imagined that the Free Software Movement would spawn a watered-down alternative, the Open Source Movement, which would become so well-known that people would ask me questions about 'open source' thinking that I work under that banner.	[12:10]
dbtid	yeah. who could confuse those?	[12:11]
elalo	rms: porting non-free software to an OS is bad! but porting a free compiler to a non-free OS is good!	[12:12]
SirSkidmore	does stallman sound like a preacher at talks? because in my head	[12:14]
elalo	sirskidmore: a homeless preacher. with no followers.	[12:15]
SirSkidmore	I just imagine him dressed in the church of emacs getup shouting at people and sprinking water on people	[12:15]
qbit	so far that's the only thing i don't like about emacs	[12:18]
SirSkidmore	qbit: rms?	[12:19]
qbit	GPLv3	[12:19]
SirSkidmore	ohhh I still think it would be really cool to see an actual clojure implementation of emacs	[12:20]
qbit	in teh jvm?	[12:21]
SirSkidmore	yeah	[12:21]
qbit	not sure i can support that	[12:21]
SirSkidmore	don't you work for oracle? aren't you supposed to <3 java?	[12:22]
qbit	>.> <.<	[12:22]
SirSkidmore	just saying... but I agree I think I non-GPL emacs would be great	[12:23]
dbtid	write one and call it "scam"	[12:24]
kyl	eewwwww clojuremacs racketmacs would be cool though or one that uses cl	[12:24]
SirSkidmore	kyl: that would actually be a lot of fun <3 scheme	[12:25]
CosmiCruz	kyl!!! <3 qbit!!! <3 SirSkidmore: o/	[12:25]
SirSkidmore	o	[12:26]
qbit	CosmiCruz: o/	[12:26]
CosmiCruz	how's it going, SirSkidmore?	[12:26]
qbit	sup mang	[12:26]
SirSkidmore	It's going	[12:26]
CosmiCruz	qbit: o not much, mr qbit	[12:26]
SirSkidmore	just ready to go home, you know	[12:26]
CosmiCruz	SirSkidmore: you're at work or something?	[12:26]
SirSkidmore	CosmiCruz: yeah	[12:26]
CosmiCruz	awesome o/	[12:27]
SirSkidmore	CosmiCruz: meh :D	[12:29]
CosmiCruz	:P what's going on at work, SirSkidmore?	[12:30]
SirSkidmore	kyl: have you read little schemer/reasoned schemer/seasoned schemer? CosmiCruz: absolutely nothing at all	[12:30]
CosmiCruz	SirSkidmore: you should start the harlem shake at your office.	[12:31]
SirSkidmore	uh no	[12:31]
CosmiCruz	well, you gotta do something fun, I think troll your neighbors?	[12:31]
qbit	CosmiCruz: radical	[12:32]
CosmiCruz	qbit: o/	[12:32]
qbit	CosmiCruz++ all good ideas	[12:32]
CosmiCruz	lol	[12:32]
SirSkidmore	CosmiCruz: I am in a cubicle by myself :( no one occupies the cubicles surronding me :(	[12:32]
CosmiCruz	SirSkidmore: oh :(	[12:33]
SirSkidmore	my russian friend is across the way, but he's out of the office at the moemnt I swear to god, there are people in this office who probably don't know if I speak English I only talk to Mikhail in Russian, ha	[12:33]
CosmiCruz	do you?	[12:33]
SirSkidmore	yes	[12:33]
CosmiCruz	:P	[12:33]
elalo	sirskidmore: that sounds like paradise a quiet place to get work done	[12:35]
CosmiCruz	or to IRC, amirite	[12:35]
SirSkidmore	CosmiCruz: 100% right CosmiCruz: o/	[12:35]
CosmiCruz	o	[12:35]
elalo	pyezdetz	[12:40]
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SirSkidmore	elalo: yeahh... I can't really figure out russian that's written in Roman	[12:47]
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jorey	https://twitter.com/trevorpaglen/status/482595956752670722	[12:58]
BryceBot	TWITTER: Go! @EFF: It's true. EFF and @Greenpeace flew a 135 ft. airship over Utah NSA data center https://eff.org/r.kzpb http://t.co/OfO7Qabcam" (Fri Jun 27 18:46:56 +0000 2014, retweeted 14 times)	[12:58]
zod000	if donating to the EFF got you free zepplin flights over the NSA data center, they'd have tons more donations until they get shot down anyway heh	[12:58]
jorey	i'd donate if that would get me shot down. hell, i should go to detroit, i can probably get shot there for free!	[13:00]
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zod000	jorey: your desire to get shot is intriguing. I stive to remain unshot as long as I can	[13:01]
dbtid	*strive jorey: your odd desire to get shot could help a lot of people practice their marksmanship. jorey: i fully endorse this pursuit. jorey: have at it and good luck!	[13:01]
zod000	dbtid: well if he isn't dodging, i won't help as much	[13:02]
jorey	i can pretend to dodge	[13:02]
zod000	haha	[13:02]
dbtid	Pew Research Center: if you're proud to be an American, you're probably not a liberal.	[13:02]
jorey	dbtid: thanks!	[13:02]
dbtid	jorey: sure. anytime we tackle a large undertaking, we need support.	[13:03]
elalo	sirskidmore: it means 'we're totally utterly fucked' but in russian the word is a derivative of the russian word for clitoris. so the translation is approximate.	[13:05]
jorey	so.. FUBAR? :p	[13:07]
elalo	bingo	[13:07]
jorey	elalo: what's the word?	[13:07]
elalo	well all i know is the phonetic spelling using english letters.	[13:07]
jorey	ah	[13:07]
elalo	pyezdyetz. developing software with ukrainians is fun.	[13:07]
BryceBot	New OpenBSD snapshots for i386! (Fri Jun 27 2014 11:58:13 GMT-0700(PDT))	[13:09]
kyl	heh after Go's switch statements, C's switches are meh	[13:12]
Nei	at least it has switches!	[13:12]
jrick	after rust's match expressions, statements are meh	[13:13]
Nei	also need to keep in mind what it translates to	[13:13]
kyl	assuming matches are the pattern matching pretty much every functional language has had forever?	[13:13]
Nei	in C I know I get a nice jump table	[13:13]
kyl	a const uint8_t can't be used for a switch	[13:13]
kusuriya_	hmm now I have a hard choice to make	[13:13]
kyl	whereas in Go it would be s/w/c/	[13:13]
BryceBot	<kyl> it could be	[13:13]
elalo	Sirskidmore: пиздец == fubar	[13:14]
SirSkidmore	okay	[13:14]
zod000	kusuriya_: what choice?	[13:14]
SirSkidmore	see, I recognize that	[13:14]
kusuriya_	I got a job offer to be an exchange admin for the defense language insitutie	[13:14]
elalo	sirskidmore: it's also a very, very naughty word (as described above)	[13:14]
SirSkidmore	right	[13:14]
kusuriya_	but that means I have to move to monterey CA in 3 weeks	[13:14]
SirSkidmore	I know that one and хопа but that's really it	[13:14]
zod000	kusuriya_: I know you wanted to do something else, but a least it gets your out of a toxic workplace	[13:15]
elalo	siski == tits	[13:15]
zod000	s/your/you/	[13:15]
BryceBot	<zod000> kusuriya_: I know you wanted to do something else, but a least it gets you out of a toxic workplace	[13:15]
jorey	SirSkidmore: сука = whore. дурак = asshole/idiot (but more used in the sense of "fuck!" whe nsomething goes wrong) SirSkidmore: you need to know those words!!!111111	[13:16]
bcallah	fuck!	[13:16]
SirSkidmore	ohhhh	[13:16]
kusuriya_	yeah but thats a quick move thats 2 week notice + week to move	[13:16]
zod000	kusuriya_: yeah, won't be easy	[13:16]
SirSkidmore	yeah I know сука from playing DoTA2 a few times with Russian people	[13:17]
zod000	understatement in the least	[13:17]
jorey	haha	[13:17]
kusuriya_	in theroy its really easy assuming I can find an apartment in a week	[13:17]
zod000	lol SirSkidmore	[13:17]
elalo	пиздец: russian noun to describe a worst case, which became even worse	[13:17]
zod000	kusuriya_: moving tends to suck no matter what	[13:17]
kusuriya_	id be closer to kyl i guess :P	[13:17]
zod000	that's a selling point if I'veever heard one kyl raises select property values wherever he travels	[13:18]
elalo	kyl: monterey is beautiful. overcast often. mild temperatures.	[13:19]
zod000	s/kyl/kusuriya_/	[13:19]
BryceBot	<elalo> kusuriya_: monterey is beautiful. overcast often. mild temperatures.	[13:19]
elalo	yeah whoever ;)	[13:19]
zod000	:) @weather 34653	[13:19]
BryceBot	New Port Richey, FL: Thunderstorm ☈ 88°F (31°C), Humidity: 69%, Wind: From the WNW at 6.8 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=28.262777,-82.700165 or re-request this with: @weather -v 34653	[13:20]
zod000	lies, it is over 90 and no clouds in the sky	[13:20]
kusuriya_	i know monterey is pretty Lived there for a few years as a kid and helped a buddy move there when he got selected to be an instructor of farsi at DLI	[13:20]
elalo	полный пиздец: worst case that became even worse, and is now completely FUBAR to the extent that it simply cannot be increased.	[13:21]
kusuriya_	i still like the idea of lumshevuk (sp?) a word that has no translation but the idea is it is painful to the mind	[13:21]
jorey	SirSkidmore: there's another funny one, with a little story: i've always been close to a few russian families. anyways, this one friend of mine didn't really know russian all that well anymore, but his parents did. we were teenagers at the time and his mom wasn't pleased with something he did, so she started talking in russian and he was just like "yeah..whatever" until some point he looked confused, thought for a second and then asked her whether ... ... she really just said that. SirSkidmore: what she said was "ёб твою мать!" which literally means something like "fuck your mother" or "i fucked your mother" or something, but it's a really general cussword as well, occasionally used when you're simply not happy with something someone did	[13:22]
lteo	arhhshsghahahah!!!	[13:23]
jorey	SirSkidmore: and by no means /as/ offensive as it sounds. since he didn't know cause he didn't care about russian, he thought she meant it literally and got really confused :) #walloftext #hashtagsinirc #yoloswagforjesus	[13:23]
elalo	you forgot 420	[13:24]
zod000	@beerforpresident err	[13:24]
jorey	beer++	[13:24]
zod000	#beerforpresident beer++	[13:24]
SirSkidmore	jorey: lol beer++	[13:25]
zod000	soon it shall be beer time	[13:25]
SirSkidmore	still have 35 minutes	[13:25]
zod000	exactly	[13:25]
kusuriya_	but yeah to I stay or go	[13:25]
mianosm	beer thirty can't come fast enough	[13:25]
mcchunkie	that's what she said!	[13:25]
zod000	mianosm++	[13:25]
lteo	lteo is trying to prevent a new program from descending into unmaintainable hell	[13:26]
kusuriya_	beer thirty started for me yesterday at 3	[13:26]
elalo	she had degenerative alcoholism	[13:26]
jorey	http://rlv.zcache.com/beer_thirty_watch-r01cfe6c521d54b3b9cad268fc58479fc_wmod9_8byvr_512.jpg	[13:26]
zod000	lteo: you cannot stop the tide	[13:26]
lteo	STFU i shall stop the tide!	[13:26]
zod000	lteo: accept the entropy of the universe or be destroyed by it	[13:26]
lteo	this madness cannot continue i don't get why do programmers tolreate this shite	[13:26]
zod000	zod000 pictures lteo having his 'THIS IS SPARTA!' moment kick that newbie programmer into a pit lteo: some don't just tolerate it, they revel in it	[13:27]
jorey	zod000: "fight in the shade" :(	[13:28]
lteo	the debugging messages clearly show the stuff is wrong and yet, he thinks it's working well what the fruit	[13:28]
bcallah	lteo: how can a new program already be in danger of unmaintainable hell? did you write it with crayon?	[13:28]
zod000	lteo: my favorite is the programmer that fixes bugs my throwing a try/catch around them and them moving on	[13:28]
lteo	bcallah: when the new program gradually becomes not-so-new program	[13:28]
zod000	like hoping it will just go away	[13:28]
lteo	zod000: let me guess, the catch is for the broadest exception there is? ;)	[13:29]
jorey	zod000: try{ ... } catch(Exception e){}? :)	[13:29]
zod000	jorey: yes exactly	[13:29]
jorey	godlike	[13:29]
zod000	mother fuckers	[13:29]
bcallah	lteo: who's writing this program? is this juniordev?	[13:29]
CosmiCruz	bcallah!!! <3 zod000!!! <3 <\| L T E O \|>	[13:30]
piroko	CosmiCruz!!! <3	[13:30]
zod000	CosmiCruz: o/	[13:30]
CosmiCruz	piroko!!! <3 o how's everybody doing?	[13:31]
piroko	o[13:31] <zod000> could be worse YES I MEANT TO HIT MYSELF I realized I utterly hate my pathetic existence working day in and day out staring at a computer screen for 40 hours a week Other than that though I'm good	[13:31]
bcallah	so fucking tired...	[13:32]
CosmiCruz	piroko: o/ bcallah: why is that? :(	[13:33]
bcallah	long week	[13:33]
CosmiCruz	mmm yay, long week o/	[13:34]
lteo	so hard to find people who just get it	[13:36]
zod000	piroko: i suggest beer/sex/fun over the weekend, in no particular order	[13:37]
piroko	zod000: that sounds like a great idea minus the beer. I'll take liquor tho	[13:37]
CosmiCruz	what's going on, mr lteo?	[13:37]
zod000	piroko: that is an acceptable substitute	[13:37]
CosmiCruz	liquor++ what's going on, mr zod000?	[13:37]
zod000	jsut working nothing fun	[13:38]
CosmiCruz	if only you're allowed to beer&&code at work	[13:39]
BryceBot	New OpenBSD packages for i386! (Fri Jun 27 2014 01:08:53 GMT-0700(PDT))	[13:39]
CosmiCruz	where'd everybody go? :(	[13:44]
zod000	CosmiCruz: you scared them off heh	[13:44]
CosmiCruz	I always do :( lol how's life outside of work and IRC, mr zod000?	[13:44]
zod000	if i were still working in an office, i'd likely not be talkative this close to 5pm CosmiCruz: shitty :( work and irc are the high points	[13:45]
CosmiCruz	oh :(	[13:45]
zod000	i don't particularly want to elaborate right now, but things are rough	[13:45]
SirSkidmore	SirSkidmore hugs	[13:46]
CosmiCruz	CosmiCruz hugs too	[13:46]
zod000	thanks guys	[13:46]
SirSkidmore	SirSkidmore doesn't let go	[13:47]
zod000	wait, what is this its a trap!	[13:47]
CosmiCruz	it's an intervention lolol... j/k	[13:47]
SirSkidmore	i was going to make it weird	[13:47]
zod000	zod000 feels like Admiral Ackbar	[13:47]
SirSkidmore	but decided against it	[13:47]
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zod000	IT'S A TRP! err IT'S A TRP! IT'S A TRAP! fuck	[13:47]
SirSkidmore	lolololol	[13:48]
Nei	nice trp	[13:48]
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SirSkidmore	so what does KILLALLHUMANS01 do?	[13:48]
zod000	kill al "h1mans" (hymens?)	[13:48]
SirSkidmore	KILLALLHUMANS01: o/ KILLALLH1MANS01: o/ aren't they bots?	[13:48]
dvl_	We're safe then.	[13:48]
jrick	I hate traps that's why I do inline error handling	[13:49]
CosmiCruz	jrick!!! <3	[13:50]
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SirSkidmore	alright I'm heading home bye	[13:57]
zod000	have a good weekend SirSkidmore i am going to go try and have a beer before all hell breaks loose again here have a good weekend all (not that I won't be around here)	[13:58]
SirSkidmore	zod000: I'm sure I'll be around some this weekend :D	[13:59]
zod000	zod000 waves goodbye	[13:59]
CosmiCruz	later, mr zod000 <3	[13:59]
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qbit	ryk: o/	[14:11]
elalo	zod000: have a peaceful beer sirskidmore: have a nice weekend	[14:12]
qbit	zod000: ima need you to have a good weekend kthx https://i.imgur.com/840qbLx.gif	[14:12]
elalo	qbit: are you the horse or the lamb	[14:19]
CosmiCruz	ryk <3 where has ryk been?	[14:20]
qbit	elalo: goat	[14:21]
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Kur00	hows it going in here today?	[14:25]
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elalo_	freenode pooping itself	[14:32]
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kyl	s/fr[a-z]+e/elalo/ s/fr[a-z]+e/elalo/ maybe not	[14:36]
jrick	denied	[14:37]
kyl	it was going to be SO FUNNY YOU GUYS	[14:37]
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elalo_	i haven't pooped myself in over a week	[14:41]
CosmiCruz	kyl!!! <3	[14:44]
lteo	elalo_: o/	[14:44]
elalo_	o	[14:44]
CosmiCruz	elalo_: is that a record? lteo!!! <3	[14:44]
lteo	CosmiCruz!!!	[14:45]
CosmiCruz	what's going on, mr lteo?	[14:46]
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lteo	un-crapping some code	[14:46]
elalo_	cosmicruz: who keeps score? ;)	[14:47]
CosmiCruz	guinness, perhaps? CosmiCruz shrugs	[14:47]
elalo_	cosmicruz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siCNdfH9U40 cosmicruz: nice to meet you, btw.	[14:47]
CosmiCruz	nice to meet you too :D CosmiCruz <3s everyone	[14:49]
elalo_	i picture cosmicruz as an earthy santa cruz spirit child	[14:49]
CosmiCruz	hmm... anyways... gotta go or something, maybe. CosmiCruz has some trees to hug.	[14:49]
elalo_	it was not my intention to induce an afk.	[14:51]
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SirSkidmore	I'm so over my internship	[14:54]
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elalo_	:(	[14:57]
lteo	this just appeared in work chat "I was wrapping a wrapper"	[14:58]
elalo_	elalo_ winces	[14:58]
kyl	lteo: o/ sometimes you have to reduce friction for your API friction-reducer	[14:58]
SirSkidmore	lteo: was the original wrapper too offensive? did they wrap hijacking in "nineEleven"	[14:59]
lteo	kyl: o	[15:01]
SirSkidmore	also, kyl sorry for taking your star of sedlisp on github and posting it to lobste.rs thought it was really neat, and couldn't believe it wasn't already posted :d s/d$/D/	[15:02]
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kyl	there	[15:09]
piroko	yikes you actually mad kyl?	[15:13]
kyl	no of course not i got so much karma i can share with the peasants err D:	[15:13]
piroko	lol	[15:17]
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kyl	lteo: funny enough, this project involves writing a wrapper then I'm going to write a Go layer over that so I might end up wrapping a wrapper	[15:20]
lteo	lol	[15:22]
piroko	dude sirskidmore never came back...	[15:28]
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dbtid	greetings	[15:46]
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brycec	!tell SirSkidmore KILLALLH1MANS01 is not a bot, especially not running on devio.us. It's me, logged in from devio.us, evidenced by the hostmask.	[16:05]
zdo	brycec: I'll tell SirSkidmore next time they speak.	[16:05]
brycec	I hate idiots.	[16:05]
dbtid	what brought that on?	[16:07]
brycec	dbtid: dealing with idiots :p	[16:07]
dbtid	you think sirskidmore is an idiot?	[16:07]
brycec	My comment was not in reference to SirSkidmore	[16:07]
dbtid	ah, that was my confusion. yes, dealing with idiots is not pleasant. ok, time to go help my wife. later. good luck with the idiots.	[16:08]
brycec	brycec thinks it's nap time later	[16:08]
CosmiCruz	kyl!!! <3 also, later brycec also, hi dbtid :D	[16:09]
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ampharos	damn it vmware tools you can't find the headers I JUST installed?	[17:16]
elalo_	i work for a spinoff of vmware and emc. they initially said we have to use vcloud for our virtualization enviornment. after 6 months of vcloud shitting the bed we all have amazon accounts	[17:24]
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bcallah	http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2014-June/045494.html this thread is terrible if you freebsd...	[17:39]
ampharos	https://i.imgur.com/4PGpEGp.png america learns futbol hooliganism	[17:45]
bcallah	lol, america has always known futbol hooliganism just not directed towards futbol	[17:51]
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kbw	I'm going to put OpenBSD on my laptop, do you guys know of any way I can get a bootable installer working on my USB? My external CD drive is in storage unfortunately I think grub(which is currently installed on it) can boot ISOs dd'd to regular disks	[17:54]
BryceBot	New OpenBSD snapshots for hppa! (Fri Jun 27 2014 16:25:40 GMT-0700(PDT))	[17:55]
jrick	mmmhm pho	[17:58]
bcallah	kbw: you gotta be fuucking with me	[17:59]
kbw	Also sue me for looking like a Garyite but I kind of like Motif for its rc syntax I can't stand FVWM's	[17:59]
bcallah	do you guys know of any way I can get a bootable installer working on my USB? you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool	[17:59]
elalo_	kbw is a powerful man.	[18:00]
bcallah	fuck that, should be put under @bcallah Brian Callahan says: you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool	[18:01]
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bcallah	brycec: ^^ make it happen :D OPENBSD HAS USB INSTALL IMAGES YOU DUMB SHIT (yes I know he left) ALL IT WOULD TAKE FOR YOU TO DISCOVER THIS IS TO GO FUCKING LOOK AT ANY FUCKING MIRROR	[18:01]
elalo_	bcallah: when he's not berating the humans, he's berating the humans.	[18:02]
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kbw	Hi, what was my last message?	[18:03]
ampharos	kbw: tl;dr: in mirror, usb installers are marked by .fs dd that shit to the stick	[18:03]
kbw	Oh thanks This is new	[18:04]
ampharos	bcallah just went postal the police will arrive soon he's going to arkham asylum	[18:04]
bcallah	lol I just can't believe how people here want to be spoonfed.	[18:05]
jrick	bcallah: can I ship you my laptop to install openbsd on?	[18:05]
bcallah	jrick: I assume all hw shipped to me is a gift to me so yes, but then it's mine seriously, you know how I got to be a dev?	[18:05]
kbw	bcallah, I had been trying to solve how to get install via USB working with OpenBSD for some time, without an OpenBSD host being at my disposal, so my question was justified	[18:06]
bcallah	I shut the fuck up until I could contribute something. and then do you know what I did? I SHUT THE FUCK UP SOME MORE AND DID SOMETHING. no it wasn't FUCKING MAILING LISTS FUCKING MIRRORS THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD	[18:06]
elalo_	bcallah: yes but what did you do then?	[18:06]
bcallah	elalo_: now I talk, because I've earned that right	[18:07]
jrick	faqs exist to be read	[18:07]
brycec	THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD twss	[18:07]
mcchunkie	Added funny: "THIS SHIT ISN'T HARD"	[18:07]
bcallah	lol	[18:08]
kbw	elalo_, did you ask bcallah how to become an OpenBSD dev or something?	[18:08]
elalo_	no..you pissed him off.	[18:08]
kbw	Or about how you plan on contributing?	[18:08]
elalo_	don't put this on me	[18:08]
kbw	I do that regularly	[18:08]
bcallah	you don't lift a single finger to help yourself you just expect someone else to do it for you	[18:08]
kbw	I asked how I could get an OpenBSD image on a USB stick You started ranting	[18:09]
bcallah	because you didn't even bother looking if you had you would have noticed the usb install images	[18:10]
jrick	if you searched google maybe you'd find a good calomel link that answers your question	[18:10]
ampharos	except calomel is shit tier openbsd devs said that	[18:11]
jrick	thatsthejoke.jpg	[18:11]
ampharos	they have a pkg_search script... when they could be pkg_info -Q	[18:11]
elalo_	yousuck mcbain!	[18:11]
kbw	bcallah, Ever since 4.9 I have never noticed any USB images, I didn't expect them to spontaneously be there this release	[18:11]
bcallah	kbw: maybe you should learn to look shit gets better every day	[18:12]
kbw	Ok Is it possible to change the console colors in OpenBSD to black on white?	[18:12]
elalo_	i think you're going to give bcallah an aneurism.	[18:14]
kbw	inb4 do it via the shell Good	[18:14]
jrick	this is hillarious	[18:14]
elalo_	s/ism/ysm	[18:14]
BryceBot	<elalo_> i think you're going to give bcallah an aneurysm.	[18:14]
kbw	He need to learn to not get upset over small things *needs	[18:14]
bcallah	lol you need to learn how to be part of the Big Boys(TM)	[18:15]
brycec	@bcallah	[18:15]
BryceBot	Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something. 81,314 results found. Here's #7,768 May 23, 2013 12:00:25 <bcallah > it was kinda hard to hear	[18:15]
brycec	@bcallah	[18:15]
BryceBot	Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something.	[18:15]
kbw	Bah the armv7 port supports cubieboard now	[18:15]
elalo_	kbw: i do believe most of these questions could be easily answered via google	[18:15]
BryceBot	81,314 results found. Here's #1,003 Feb 28, 2013 20:49:21 <bcallah > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDifatTTOqU	[18:15]
brycec	brycec smacks BryceBot	[18:15]
kbw	elalo_, I already tried googling	[18:15]
bcallah	kbw: holy shit! you did basic looking	[18:15]
brycec	@bcallah	[18:15]
bcallah	@bcallah	[18:15]
BryceBot	Brett Callahan says: you make me want to morph into an overemotional teenage girl who slits her wrists because it's cool. Brian Callahan says: just do shit. really. shut the fuck up and do something. 81,316 results found. Here's #59,695 Jan 06, 2014 18:19:29 <bcallah > github doesn't count 81,316 results found. Here's #6,818 May 18, 2013 12:26:36 <bcallah > revberaldo,	[18:15]
bcallah	LMAO! Brett	[18:15]
brycec	much better	[18:15]
CosmiCruz	brycec!!! <3 bcallah!!! <3	[18:16]
jrick	ahahahaa brett	[18:16]
CosmiCruz	jrick!!! <3	[18:16]
jrick	<3	[18:16]
bcallah	except I think it's funnier if the emo girl thing actually gets credited to me because it's bascially insane	[18:16]
kbw	There are emo people in 2006+8?	[18:16]
jrick	lazy evalulation is a bitch	[18:17]
CosmiCruz	how have you been, mr jrick?	[18:18]
jrick	excellent eating pho right now and it is amazeballs	[18:18]
kbw	jrick, I could never stand that stuff The pho the vietnamese place makes near me smells like piss bit tastes okay Regardless I can't eat it Ever since I found a roach in my rice my stomach churns at the sight of chinese/vietnamese food	[18:18]
bcallah	that's like pure protein	[18:24]
CosmiCruz	bcallah++	[18:30]
jrick	https://www.massdrop.com/buy/potato-keycap	[18:33]
kbw	bcallah, it's like pure salmonella	[18:39]
brycec	No way jrick, go team brick! @last Lefty	[18:39]
BryceBot	brycec, I last saw Lefty 4 hours 8 min 16 sec ago quitting: .net .split.	[18:40]
brycec	ping Lefty	[18:40]
jrick	pong Lefty	[18:40]
kbw	<rant>Pizza Hut has some fucking nasty pizza</rant>	[18:41]
jrick	brycec: if only I could put a potato cap on my realforce	[18:42]
brycec	s#Pizza Hut#Any given pizza chain/place#	[18:42]
BryceBot	<kbw> <rant>Any given pizza chain/place has some fucking nasty pizza</rant>	[18:42]
jrick	guess I'll have to settle for real potatos	[18:42]
brycec	lol jrick It's a silly abuse of 3D printers	[18:42]
kbw	brycec, there aren't any small pizza places here Only chains Well there might be, on a different street	[18:43]
brycec	Not even small places are exempt though	[18:43]
kbw	Why? Are you a pizza hater>	[18:43]
brycec	My point is that various people make that statement about various places.	[18:43]
kbw	? Ah Nobody can unanimously agree on one pizza place I understand	[18:43]
bcallah	pizza hut by me isn't terrible but I also live in NJ, so you wouldn't go to pizza hut anyway	[18:44]
brycec	Likewise, and that's not biased.	[18:44]
kbw	Pizza Hut is the worst for me	[18:44]
brycec	lol bcallah	[18:44]
kbw	Dominoes is pretty good I used to swear by papa john's And this local place I forget about, back when I lived in florida	[18:45]
brycec	brycec misses his "local place" from back in AZ	[18:45]
bcallah	lol	[18:46]
kbw	bcallah, is there a lot of different pizza shops there?	[18:46]
bcallah	there ain't no such thing as "local place" here everyone in NYC/NJ area lives within delivery distance of at least 10 pizzarias	[18:46]
kbw	huh	[18:46]
brycec	bcallah: Well sure, that would be "10 local places" though	[18:47]
bcallah	not really	[18:47]
brycec	"local place" anything that isn't a big chain	[18:47]
bcallah	because it's very often you'll go to one outside your delivery distance because, fuck it, you're 10 minutes from home and want to bring home a pizza	[18:47]
kbw	Which is better in terms of culture, NJ or NY state? Excluding new york city	[18:48]
bcallah	not useful: NY state and NJ are so large they have many different cultures I live in the part of NJ that's basically an extension of NYC	[18:48]
kbw	Large in terms of population?	[18:48]
bcallah	so a lot of people here (myself included) are displaced city people large in terms of pop and geographic distance to culture centers south jersey is dominated by philly culture and philly sucks no one likes philly or south jersey	[18:48]
kbw	Here the only visible non-American culture is Mexican	[18:49]
bcallah	except atlantic city atlantic city is badass you're figure that our in like 10 years s/our/out/	[18:49]
BryceBot	<bcallah> you're figure that out in like 10 years	[18:49]
bcallah	fuck s/our/out/ \| s/re/ll/	[18:49]
BryceBot	<bcallah> you'll figull that out in like 10 years	[18:50]
bcallah	bcallah throws his hands in the air bcallah gives up and hates everyone	[18:50]
kbw	One of my friends is Cuban, he comes from the same Florida neighborhood I came from	[18:50]
kyl	s/b.+ss/boring/	[18:50]
BryceBot	<bcallah> atlantic city is boring	[18:50]
kbw	Really interesting coincidence	[18:50]
brycec	brycec hates bcallah back	[18:50]
kbw	bcallah, are most NJ/NY inhabitants as angry as you are?	[18:51]
bcallah	kyl: that's because you don't drink like I do :D	[18:51]
kyl	truth	[18:51]
bcallah	kbw: in NYC, everyone hate you s/hate/hates/	[18:51]
BryceBot	<bcallah> kbw: in NYC, everyone hates you	[18:51]
kbw	I hear you guys LOVE tourists	[18:51]
bcallah	I hate tourists I used to be in the WTC area a lot for nycbug stuff. HATED being there	[18:51]
kbw	I'll make sure to bring my statue of liberty hat and start up conversations on the subway	[18:51]
bcallah	fucking tourists just stand around like idiots I got fucking places to be	[18:51]
kbw	And make sure to press my face against the window whenever I board a bus	[18:52]
brycec	bcallah: I hear that gripe a lot from SNL and the like... And it's really that bad?	[18:52]
kbw	If I go to NYC I'll bring my trusty list of things that piss off natives bcallah, how popular is your BUG there? I saw that you were on BSD Now talking about it, but I never watched the episode Too much of a download	[18:52]
bcallah	nycbug is among the healthiest bugs, if not the healthiest	[18:53]
brycec	s/B/M/ \| s/[A-Z]/[a-z]/	[18:53]
BryceBot	<kbw> [a-z] saw that you were on [a-z][a-z][a-z] [a-z]ow talking about it, but [a-z] never watched the episode	[18:53]
brycec	fuck	[18:53]
bcallah	we wield disproportionate influence for our size	[18:54]
kbw	neat	[18:54]
bcallah	extremely disproportionate	[18:54]
kbw	There is a UNIX users group on the end of the stree I'm on It seems pretty corporate though It isn't the traditional sandals+tee-shirt organization where you discuss various distros and talk about hating The Man(microsoft) bcallah, at an estimate, how many attendees are there on average?	[18:54]
bcallah	20-30 our conferences sell out but we only do that once a year	[18:55]
kbw	That's quite a bit I never attended AUUG, I figure it's not my crowd	[18:55]
bcallah	we're the respected user group	[18:56]
kbw	The people who attend that use UNIX for their jobs	[18:56]
bcallah	many attendees don't use bsd at all	[18:56]
kbw	There's always some kind of sponsorship or presentation by some corporation	[18:56]
bcallah	but they know nycbug is where the serious people are	[18:56]
kbw	Not my thing	[18:56]
bcallah	so they come to learn something	[18:56]
kbw	bcallah, are they mostly desktop BSD users?	[18:57]
bcallah	lol no	[18:57]
kbw	Or do they all use Macs like the BSD user stereotype specifies	[18:57]
bcallah	if you want to lol desktop, go to nylug no - we're BSD users that means everywhere	[18:57]
kbw	ah	[18:57]
bcallah	our work, our homes everywhere there's no distinction for "desktop BSD" you use BSD	[18:57]
kbw	If they're serious about using it they must not use it on every one of their devices As their sole OS that is	[18:58]
bcallah	that makes literally no sense	[18:58]
kbw	bcallah, have you ever been to a LUG?	[18:58]
bcallah	sure	[18:58]
kbw	I have never attended one bcallah, what are the people there like?	[18:58]
bcallah	what do you think a BUG or a UUG is? it's the same thing just focused around BSD	[18:59]
kbw	Kissless neckbeards whose skin hints of basement dwelling? I figure LUGs would have desktop Linux users mainly I might be wrong	[18:59]
bcallah	yeah, it's mostly lol desktop the one's I've been to that's why I don't frequent them	[19:00]
kbw	Ah Georgia Tech has a LUG	[19:00]
bcallah	I'm not interested in the latest X compositor I want to fucking learn something	[19:00]
kbw	I might take MARTA over there at my next meeting *their No car :v	[19:00]
bcallah	where I'm going there's a LUG and a (dormant) BUG so I'm gonna restart the BUG, and be the badass BSD guy in the back of the room at the LUGs	[19:00]
elalo_	"at the next LUG meeting we'll learn how systemd now automatically downloads and installs graphics drivers"	[19:01]
kbw	bcallah, have you ever visited 4chan.org/g? Would you say LUG attendees might browse that site? Do many of them have a ranging interest in the viewing of anime or ricing their desktop? elalo_, hehe I'm interested in OpenBSD's systemd supplicant	[19:01]
bcallah	kbw: why the fuck would I know what anyone else does who isn't me? unless someone explicitly tells me	[19:03]
kbw	Dunno	[19:03]
bcallah	an protip: if you think I give a shit about what $RANDOM does, think again	[19:03]
kbw	Ok I know what my friends do because they tell me Some of them are into anime some of them aren't	[19:03]
bcallah	yes, I know what my friends do	[19:05]
kbw	Then maybe your friends don't attend LUGs?	[19:05]
bcallah	but the set of all of my friends and the set of all LUG attendees has 0 overlap	[19:05]
kbw	I don't see myself going to a LUG and not socializing If it's focused around Linux I might as well ask people I meet what distro they use	[19:06]
bcallah	lol socializing	[19:06]
kbw	bcallah, do your friends use BSD as well?	[19:06]
bcallah	the ones that understand computers do	[19:07]
elalo_	coding can be fun! https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Og2EBG4N5M	[19:07]
BryceBot	YouTube Tech: "iJustine codes a 3D printed bracelet with Shapeways" by Shapeways (2m 24s), 13,183 views, 52 likes and 28 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-19T12:27:12.000Z.	[19:07]
bcallah	iJustine... ugh	[19:07]
elalo_	this is more ugh than normal s/normal/usual	[19:07]
BryceBot	<elalo_> this is more ugh than usual	[19:07]
kbw	I never knew any Linux users who dedicated themselves to learn about it Only a couple guys who dual booted it or ran it on their secondary computers that they hardly touched And certainly no BSD users	[19:07]
bcallah	maybe, and this is just a big fucking maybe because of who I'm gonna address this to but just fucking maybe, you'll go LEARN something about a BSD, I don't actually give a shit which one (though I will judge you as an idiot if you pick the wrong one) and then you'll be able to speak intelligently about BSD and then maybe you won't be so much of a dumbass you can go to conferences and shit and then make friends with real BSD users and devs	[19:09]
kbw	There isn't any BSD groups in my state I don't think	[19:10]
bcallah	holy fuck, I just gave you the best god damn life plan ever I really can't believe how amazing I am.	[19:10]
kbw	Your sarcasm can be painful to read at times :v	[19:12]
bcallah	oh no, that was in no way sarcasm I am clearly the greatest thing to ever happen to you.	[19:12]
kbw	"greatest"	[19:12]
bcallah	I gave you a fucking life plan. how many people gonna do that for you?	[19:12]
kbw	You might have made me consider learning something about BSD but nothing much more	[19:12]
bcallah	and I don't even like you! am I not merciful?	[19:12]
kbw	bcallah, writing ports can't get me a job Neither can any kind of BSD development, here at least	[19:13]
bcallah	of course it can you just haven't figured out how BSD development got me an NSF fellowship it's not that hard	[19:13]
mcchunkie	twss!	[19:14]
bcallah	just figure out how to market yourself and not be a bitch	[19:14]
kbw	It's not hard to get an NSF fellowship? :p	[19:14]
bcallah	tho you should probably work on the not being a bitch thing first kbw: how many people you know with an NSF fellowship?	[19:14]
kbw	None.	[19:14]
bcallah	yeah, cause they're super hard to get and incredibly prestigious	[19:15]
kbw	I don't know anybody with a diploma either, with the exception of a couple people. I don't even contact the people I knew who graduated. bcallah, do you use BSD for your job? If you do, I hope it isn't to intrusive to ask you what you do	[19:15]
bcallah	what I propose to do for my Ph.D. dissertation is predicated on me being an OpenBSD dev	[19:18]
elalo_	what are the odds that kbw is really bcallah, and that all of this is an exercise in self-esteem?	[19:18]
bcallah	zero	[19:18]
kbw	Okay, you got me.	[19:18]
bcallah	If I want self-esteem, I'll just go fuck a girl	[19:18]
kbw	Don't listen to myself	[19:19]
bcallah	I have plenty of those sorry but you don't have the cadence or vocabulary to impersonate me	[19:19]
kbw	Your vocabulary hasn 't been very extensive in my prescence	[19:22]
elalo_	s/prescence/presence	[19:22]
BryceBot	<kbw> 't been very extensive in my presence	[19:22]
kbw	Mmm	[19:22]
bcallah	you haven't been around long enough	[19:23]
kbw	bcallah, maybe you wouldn't have misspelled that	[19:23]
bcallah	all my mispelling are intentional	[19:24]
kbw	hehe I wonder if getting stoned increases programming productivity like they say	[19:24]
elalo_	absolutely not.	[19:26]
kbw	I've seen drunk programmers here	[19:26]
elalo_	it increases creativeity, not productivity.	[19:26]
kbw	They can hardly type elalo_, I see elalo_, the reason I ask is because during the entire development of a project I know of the sole developer claimed to have been under the influence elalo_, http://github.com/vendu/OS-Zero	[19:26]
elalo_	comments such as 'another bunch of changes :)' do not inspire confidence.	[19:28]
kbw	Hehe I remember having to change my commit message some 7 times when I was contributing to hexchat I hardly knew how to use git Is there any reason why OpenBSD still stands by cvs? Hitler told me that git is pretty terrible, so maybe that's why? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDeG4S-mJts	[19:29]
BryceBot	YouTube Tech: "Hitler uses git" by ronopolis (3m 23s), 204,538 views, 1,684 likes and 257 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-01-28T05:39:42.000Z.	[19:31]
zod000	kbw: where did you live in FL? zod000 was reading scroll back	[19:32]
kbw	Sarasota and Cocoa Beach	[19:32]
zod000	ah nice	[19:32]
kbw	At two different times I liked Cocoa better just because a lot of my family was there and the waves were bigger	[19:32]
zod000	i used to work in st pete, i live about an hour north of there in pasco	[19:32]
kbw	My family goes back several generations in that city :D	[19:33]
zod000	most of my family is in pinellas	[19:33]
kbw	Neat	[19:33]
zod000	some are scattered in the country, but for the most part they are here	[19:33]
kbw	I'm going to Sarasota next week to visit my grandparents, and Cocoa beach afterwards to visit some other family. My Dad's family lives overseas	[19:33]
zod000	kbw: as I am sure you are aware, it is hot and disgusting here right now heh	[19:33]
bcallah	22:30 < kbw> Is there any reason why OpenBSD still stands by cvs? go fucking read some mailing lists	[19:34]
zod000	the "feels like" temp today was 109F	[19:34]
kbw	zod000, D: zod000, Hopefully that will clear up when I'm there	[19:34]
zod000	kbw: if you are bring cool weather with you, you are a god damned sorceror	[19:35]
kbw	hehe It's not very cool here either	[19:35]
zod000	and i will applaud your spells kbw: where are you now?	[19:35]
kbw	But it isn't humid like it was earlier in the year Atlanta	[19:35]
zod000	oh yeah, atlanta can get quite hot	[19:35]
kbw	My dad is a registered investment advisor here Used to be a stock broker	[19:35]
CosmiCruz	ohai zod000... wb	[19:36]
zod000	hiya CosmiCruz	[19:36]
kbw	Part of me wants to live in Florida again :/	[19:36]
zod000	everyone else in the house is now asleep, i finally have a moment of peace kbw: a lot of my family lives directly on the beach, i admit, it would be pretty awesome to live in that area	[19:36]
CosmiCruz	zod000: o/	[19:37]
zod000	expensive as hell though o	[19:37]
CosmiCruz	moments of peace o/	[19:37]
kbw	Yeah I used to be located in the suburbs north of here, things were much cheaper there I'm not sure about the price of real estate, I'm not the one who pays the bills	[19:37]
zod000	kbw: i have a friend that lives in alphareta (sp?) it seemed nice when i visited	[19:38]
kbw	I've never been there	[19:38]
zod000	he commutes in to atlanta	[19:38]
kbw	Neato	[19:38]
zod000	i don't think I'd like to live in atlanta, but being in the burbs might not be so bad	[19:39]
kbw	I don't like the suburbs here. Too many country people :p I always say outside of Atlanta it's "the south".	[19:39]
zod000	yeah, thats no good yeah, i have always had a saying "the problem with geogia is that it is full of georgians" atlanta is mostly the exception :)	[19:39]
kbw	hehe	[19:40]
zod000	i dated it a girl from georgia she was so fucking georgian	[19:40]
kbw	Most of the commuters stick inside their office complexes	[19:40]
zod000	was awful haha	[19:40]
kbw	I don't have to see them usually	[19:40]
zod000	i am pretty happy where i am living right now, but 90% of FL would not be acceptable to me	[19:41]
kbw	hehe Stay on the coast and you're safe Safe from the people, not hurricanes :p	[19:42]
zod000	i want : A> minimal country/rednecks B> nice homes and neighborhoods C> access to city like things when I want them (restaurants, malls, general civilization) and D> not crazy traffic and general busy bullshit	[19:43]
kbw	zod000, the traffic could easily be solved by a marta expansion	[19:44]
zod000	zod000 doesn't know what that is	[19:44]
kbw	But what is mainly blocking that is cobb county zod000, our bus/metro authority	[19:45]
zod000	ah our bus system sucks	[19:45]
kbw	cobb refuses to allow them to build a station in the north Our buses are a bit dangerous I heard I've never used them	[19:45]
zod000	mainyl because the only people that ride the bus seem to be people that can't afford a car and who wants to ride with them? lol	[19:45]
kbw	zod000, that's the problem with most bus systems zod000, unless you're in somewhere like new york where some working class people don't have cars	[19:47]
zod000	i imagine in true big cities, cars end up being a liability rather than a benefit	[19:48]
CosmiCruz	zod000++	[19:48]
kbw	Just to be clear Atlanta is not one of those cities	[19:48]
zod000	no? i guess it is probably because the streets actually work there	[19:49]
kbw	Yeah, no middle class people use the buses To my knowledge There's a racist joke about MARTA Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta	[19:49]
zod000	I lol'd, but i felt suitably bad about it	[19:51]
kbw	heh It's an old joke	[19:51]
elalo_	hello again cosmicruz	[19:52]
kbw	zod000, I'm just glad I'm out of the suburbs. Public transportation = good for some carless person like me :D	[19:53]
zod000	lol	[19:53]
CosmiCruz	hello, elalo_ :D how's it going?	[19:53]
zod000	brb getting another beer	[19:53]
CosmiCruz	MOAR BEER	[19:53]
zod000	zod000 is enjoying La Fin du monde beer: la fin du monde	[19:53]
mcchunkie	Unibroue (1990 : http://www.unibroue.com/ ) La Fin Du Monde ( ABV: 9 IBU: 19 ) - La Fin du Monde has a brilliant golden color with vigorously effervescent foam. It is midly yeasty with a complex palate of malt, fruit and spice notes followed by a smooth, dry finish. La Fin du Monde was developed through 18 months of research on a unique strain of yeast originating from Europe. It is brewed in honor of the intrepid European explorers who believed they had rea orth America ‘the new world’. This triple-style golden ale recreates the style of beer originally developed in the Middle Ages by trappist monks for special occasions and as such it was the first of its kind to be brewed in North America.	[19:53]
CosmiCruz	mcchunkie: botsnack	[19:54]
mcchunkie	=.=	[19:54]
CosmiCruz	mcchunkie: o/	[19:54]
mcchunkie	o	[19:54]
CosmiCruz	protip?	[19:54]
mcchunkie	Don't mix up + and -	[19:54]
kbw	I'm enjoying Georgua's signature brand of fizzy sugar water :D	[19:54]
kusuriya	brotip?	[19:55]
mcchunkie	Don't make a mistake,e ver.	[19:55]
kbw	lol	[19:55]
CosmiCruz	kusuriya: TO THE CLOUD!!!	[19:56]
BryceBot	TO THE CLOUD!!!	[19:56]
kusuriya	hmm looks like a few more months and we will know if chinas lunar rover hunkered down correctly it should be back in radio range by then :D TO THE CLOUD!	[19:56]
BryceBot	TO THE CLOUD!!!	[19:57]
zod000	kbw: what do you mean "signature brand"?	[19:59]
kbw	zod000, a well known brand in my state I used it in the wrong context I know Do any of you guys understand linker scripts?	[20:01]
zod000	not I the beer is helping me leaving understanding of things at the door	[20:03]
jrick	<- out of beer :'(	[20:04]
zod000	:( i am stocked up	[20:04]
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jrick	time to pour the rum	[20:05]
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zod000	jrick: yo ho, it's a pirate's life for me	[20:06]
CosmiCruz	goodnight, all <3	[20:09]
elalo_	goodnight cosmicruz this is the first time i have had lagunitas pilsner. it is good.	[20:10]
zod000	fucking idiots are already shooting off fireworks	[20:10]
elalo_	zod000: throw beer bottles	[20:11]
kbw	hehe	[20:11]
zod000	if they wake my kids up i will murderize them	[20:11]
jrick	kill some redcoats	[20:11]
zod000	zod000 grabs his musket	[20:11]
kusuriya	kusuriya hides in the forest and shoots at the police and military with his musket PEW PEW GUYS!	[20:12]
zod000	zod000 is off to cause trouble	[20:12]
kusuriya	fuck yeah	[20:13]
kbw	http://wecan.hasthe.technology/ Why the fuck is this DNS shit allowed	[20:20]
kusuriya	why not	[20:22]
elalo_	kbw: are you gary?	[20:29]
kbw	Nope	[20:29]
elalo_	k	[20:29]
kbw	elalo_, I'm vaguely insulted you see resemblance between us :p	[20:30]
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elalo_	i haven't interacted with gary.	[20:36]
kbw	I came into his channel thinking not much of it, found out he was a psycho, and trolled my way into getting banned Also trolled in PM with him	[20:37]
brycec	kusuriya: you're about 300mi too far West to get away with that shit :p	[20:47]
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SirSkidmore	lol	[21:43]
zdo	SirSkidmore: brycec on #devious says: KILLALLH1MANS01 is not a bot, especially not running on devio.us. It's me, logged in from devio.us, evidenced by the hostmask.	[21:43]
SirSkidmore	kyl: you dick	[21:43]
lteo	kyl: ^	[21:43]
SirSkidmore	my autorejoin apparently still doesn't work and I was out to dinner	[21:44]
lteo	lol we thought you were pissed :p	[21:44]
SirSkidmore	no I was just gone lol	[21:44]
brycec	Also you seemed to be "here" at the time	[21:48]
SirSkidmore	brycec: yeah, I left in a hurry nbdjs I tend to leave without saying that I'm leaving a lot	[21:52]
	alright, well I'm heading to bed night all	[22:03]
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