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<.< kusuriya: the fbi would pin a medal on us forgotten: haha mianosm: at least the bot tells you it is logging and blogging everything? kyl: [FBI]: MAX ON ***: kbw2 has joined #devious
kbw has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) kyl: I love how the FBI is actually ICE and is using a commercial VPS likely running on a dead operating system bcallah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGs2w5vbJHE BryceBot: YouTube News: "19-Year-Old Accidental Politician Sworn In On Quran" by The Young Turks (2m 45s), 40,971 views, 1,362 likes and 42 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-25T03:30:00.000Z. bcallah: this is the county I live in kyl: bcallah: THE MUSLIMS ARE TAKIN OVER
sorry the islams Lefty: 'slams bcallah: lol
the funny part is he's literally the only one who voted
so the idiot wrote himself in as a joke
and now he technically is part of the steering committee for the republican party Lefty: I was wondering how someone accidentally becomes a politician
"whoops, I tripped into this pile of dirty money" bcallah: lol kyl: whoops i accidentally ran for office bcallah: and won kyl: i thought it was all part of an MMORPG bcallah: what do you mean I don't get any XP for this?!?!?! kyl: slash ARG bcallah: also, it's a republican phenomenon here
the democrats have way more seats filled
at least in the county trafficone: it's just a RG
an RG? ENERGYL
bflah!
this keyboard makes questions so difficults!
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!tell qbit ohai sir zdo: CosmiCruz: I'll tell qbit next time they speak. blackjack: i just wonder. how does openbsd compares too freebsd in terms of being light weight OS? ***: FreezingAlt has joined #devious
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variable is now known as trout bcallah: blackjack: this question feels malformed, maybe you should figure out what you actually want blackjack: i was just asking,.. given that both freebsd/netbsd/openbsd does perform almost the same thing. ANd quite the same characteristics, i just wonder which of them are more of a light weight OS bcallah: the question makes no useful sense
what are you trying to *do* with the system? blackjack: coz i just want a better platform where my resources are used efficiently
does i just wanted to know which. But i think all 3 are tied with that aspect i guess kusuriya: yes but what are you trying to do with the platform each BSD does a different task a bit better blackjack: like which would be a better webserver? kusuriya: openBSD for example is super secure and makes for great secure systems and is used as a router and firewall in commercial producs
FreeBSD tends to make a great workstation blackjack: ok kusuriya tell me what are each platforms good at?
ok kusuriya: NetBSD runs on many platforms
thats pretty much the basic rundown blackjack: ok
how about the commercial wifi routers
are they also running with that sort of thing? "netbsd"? kusuriya: commercial wifi routers at the consumer level run a linux usually
at the enterprise level its a mix of mostly linux with some Open and FreeBSD scattered in there
since BSD's tend to have spartan wifi support compared to linux kapu: NetBSD is still vulnerable to RSA timing attacks agains ssl i think kusuriya: yeah im not sure if they fixed that bcallah: 23:36 < blackjack> coz i just want a better platform where my resources are used efficiently kusuriya: even in the far future that is scifi, villians seem to not understand just because you smash a control panel doesnt mean you disabled the thing you were trying to disable just means you made it impossible to tell if it was running brycec: When it comes to vague, nebulous "which is the most lightweight" questions, I turn to the install ISO for an answer: (Base i386) OpenBSD 222MB, NetBSD 314MB, FreeBSD 564MB bcallah: then you might as well know in advance exactly how many resources you need, and build something around that
because if you have, for example, 16GB of RAM, it's a waste
you're machine isn't using all of it
so your efficiency is crap -: brycec has 16GB of RAM brycec: *your machine bcallah: lol yeah kusuriya: 32gb of ram here brycec: tl;dr OpenBSD is leanest of the major BSDs kusuriya: im not worried about light :P bcallah: kusuriya: o/ kusuriya: o bcallah: I have 8 here, and I really can't use it all
even with all the ports building I do kusuriya: same here
the closest i got to putting a dent in it was compiling libreoffice brycec: Chrome does its damnedest though :) bcallah: lol
I don't have that issue with FF kusuriya: before i realized OpenBSD's ports were quite up to date brycec: (Though FireFox still leaks like a sieve for me and will consume waaaay more than Chrome ever has) kusuriya: yeah Fx gets better each release bcallah: I guess maybe too it's how you use it
for instance, I don't leave a browser running 24/7 kusuriya: they have a large contenget of people comitted to plugging leaks bcallah: I'll click a link, look at it, then close FF brycec: I left FF running with 4 tabs over the weekend once (at work), came back and it was using 7.1GB and everything that could be swapped to disk had been.
^^ out of 8GB on that machine bcallah: so I never have a browser open for more than 30 minutes
and 30 minutes is super long
it's usually more like 5 brycec: heh kusuriya: Fx fails mostly between suspends
for me bcallah: perhaps this is why I'm constantly confused when people complain about browsers kusuriya: it will sleep at 500mb lteo: TIL bcallah only watches 5 min videos brycec: Basically bcallah uses his browser like he would a car, and doesn't leave it idling 24/7
Good Guy bcallah kusuriya: and wake at 1.5gb
and be slow as hell
Even if you give Fx unlimited memory at some point it just slows down
I use mine to mind map some times
fx doesnt like having 75 tabs open for 12 or 13 hours :P brycec: FF doesn't like having tabs open at all :P
but it puts up with it for a bit kusuriya: some where around 1.1gb you will start noticing a slow down
around 1.5gb its unbareable for me
and stuff starts crashing
and thats mostly because its starting to hit the top end of the memory limit of a 32bit thread I assume
because 64bit Firefox doesnt have the same issue of stability until you start swapping bcallah: lteo: I do mostly streaming via livestreamer
no FF at all!
:D
for instance kusuriya: yeah I abuse the living fuck out of firefox bcallah: $ livestreamer -p "vlc --file-caching 2000" twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda best & -: lteo calls the firefox abuse hotline bcallah: will get you watching summer games done quick mcchunkie: PHRASING, BOOM! kusuriya: id abuse chrome but me and chrome have had faar too many arguments over HTML5 bcallah: which is what I've been doing since it started
already halfway over :/ kusuriya: :(
man spamassassin is all screwed up for me
all the scores are faaar off bcallah: preempting BryceBot with an lteo o/
lteo: o/ lteo: bcallah: o BryceBot: lteo posted to source-changes@cvs.openbsd.org! "CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src" (Wed Jun 25 21:03:33 GMT-07:00 2014): "Convert several calloc calls to reallocarray. These calloc calls were originally malloc(n * m) calls (without memset/bzero) in the past. ok deraadt@ tedu@" [lib/libpcap : optimize.c pcap.c] Guest81348: http://youtu.be/e-DXJT8VnAA BryceBot: YouTube Comedy: "Scala Movie 2.11 Official Trailer" by Jon Pretty (1m 38s), 5,174 views, 123 likes and 4 dislikes. Uploaded 2014-06-19T14:18:44.000Z. Guest81348: "and in the process, piss off industry AND academia."
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New OpenBSD snapshots for sparc64! (Wed Jun 25 2014 21:48:06 GMT-0700(PDT)) law: sigh
so ninjapants is pressuring me to sell my Kawasaki Vulcan, take the proceeds, and buy a Triumph Bonneville
then she wants me to paint it green matte (army-style)
just so we can call it the "Steve McGreen"
>_< ***: al3hex has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) brycec: Your wife is a brilliant, bad influence. law: my wife? gosh, I hope my girlfriend doesn't find out
the real piss of it is, the local Triumph dealer has a 2013 B'ville in Barney Purple that *no one* has touched brycec: I thought you were married... My bad. law: a paint job is about $800, and the guy has offered it to me for dealer invoice + title + 'doc fee'
if I can get him to knock off the title and doc fees... I just might do it
$6799 for the bike - a 2014 B'ville is like $7900 BryceBot: New OpenBSD packages for alpha! (Wed Jun 25 2014 04:57:11 GMT-0700(PDT)) brycec: Not so sure they can knock off the title fee, since that's WA's and not theirs
Either way, good luck :)