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zaim has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) dxtr: ohai guys zod000: hai dxtr dxtr: What's up? zod000: sorry, going through nagios logs
not sure why i didnt see these in the middle of the night mcchunkie: New packages for i386! dxtr: Hmm
So.. I'm trying tinc
And it's friggin awesome ***: benDos has joined #devious
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Hai* dxtr: Fuck yea
I can access my work computer from home seamlessly. And the opposite benDos: ssh? kusuriya: woo dxtr: benDos: tinc
I said seamlessly. Like I can ping it from my computers at home without having to worry about sshing, opening openvpn or anything benDos: Neat :) dxtr: tinc was easy as fuck to set up kusuriya: looks interesting
too bad i have to use windows at work dxtr: Haha kusuriya: :( dxtr: At my job the boss was like "Do you HAVE to use Windows!?" and I was like "I never said I wanted to use Windows in the first place"
"Awesome! Then we won't have to buy that for you" kusuriya: instead they overspent on a mac :P dxtr: Nah
There were like "Go buy a computer!"
So I picked up some stuff and built it
And I'm running Linux benDos: did you buy yourself a cray? kusuriya: lenovo needs a 14" notebook with a quad core processor
:( dxtr: benDos: Cray? kusuriya: dxtr: the origonal multi core processor super computer benDos: cray.com kusuriya: @wiki cray computer BryceBot: Cray :: Cray Inc. is an American supercomputer manufacturer based in Seattle, Washington. The company's predecessor, Cray Research, Inc. (CRI), was founded in 1972 by computer designer Seymour Cray. Seymour Cray went on to form the spin-off Cray Computer Corporation (CCC), in 1989, which went bankrupt in 1995, while Cray Research was bought by SGI the next year. Cray Inc. was formed in... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray dxtr: Oh, right benDos: They're based in Seattle!
They should hire me. kusuriya: benDos: i know id love to work at cray
Or EMC
but EMC Consulting keeps jerking me around dxtr: fap fap kusuriya: not the good kind of jerk benDos: kusuriya, Cray has an IT anaylist pos open in seattle kusuriya: benDos: hmm
i try to avoid anaylist positions though
that usually means helpdesk benDos: It is helpdesk
only pos on their site in seattle kusuriya: yeah
its help desk
im cool :)
HellDesk usually sucks and doesnt pay well benDos: Hah yeeeaaahh
But maybe you'd be working closer to me
And we can become dim sum buddies. kusuriya: meh im sure i could find better opprotunities downtown :)
what i need to do is put my personal company down on my resume and cram all my linux stuff in there so I have linux admin experience and can go to admin linux systems benDos: Sounds good kusuriya: but i always get warey of doing that because then they are like "orly you did all this yourself" mcchunkie: New packages for macppc! benDos: kusuriya, i try to encourage them to ask me about stuff ***: lwhalen_ has joined #devious benDos: in interviews i do best when they are just asking me about problems or things i've done dxtr: I just masturbate kusuriya: I try not to honestly because I am a very poor interview i cant really explain my self well benDos: Awe :/ kusuriya: yeah I just need more prof experience honestly with linux benDos: Well dovecot is super sexy
I'd be ok admining dovecot more kusuriya: yeah i just cant find any dovecot admin positions :P benDos: Hehe yeeeah
postfix evim sendmail?
exim* kusuriya: id be willing to write sendmail.CFs all day long to do linux mail admining honestly benDos: Heh :)
I'm not too familiar with sendmail, just postfix really
<3 postdix
s/d/f/ lazylopez_: <3 postfix kusuriya: i know enough about sendmail.cf to know it sucks ass
but id be willing to deal with it benDos: I don't know remember what that is
main sendmial config right
? kusuriya: yep
its very nasty and picky too benDos: Noooo
I finish my coffee, and don't have cash to get more
Now i need to wait till i get to work for free coffee :< dxtr: What's the opposite of "-eq" in shell scripting
? benDos: -neq?
http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html
-ne dxtr: oh right kusuriya: thats what i think ill do
after i rebuild my savings here in january ill go get my RHCE benDos: Is a RHCE really worth the grand+ for all the certs? kusuriya: as an admin it is
redhat/centOS is really heavily used benDos: I've done a bunch of the pretests they were super easy mode but sometimes you want you to X, which has multiple ways to do it kusuriya: i also have been meaning to get my LPI certs benDos: and they only ask for one, if you know others 0 points kusuriya: meh benDos: So like "make sure no one can write to a file""
At least 3 ways to do it kusuriya: why not beable to say im a RHCE :) benDos: They only accept one kusuriya: yeah
its not an awesome test by any strech of the imagination but the beancounters eat it up benDos: Hmm kusuriya: yeah if youre going to cross over certs go a long way
like i would have got the 75k i was asking for if i had one of my exchange certs
would have got 80k if i had both benDos: I have pretty low interest in moving to sysadmin'ing tbh
Geez dbtid: jrick: did you figure it out? kusuriya: if i had both and my Microsoft Certified Expert id be in the low 200k's benDos: that'd be baller kusuriya: but the MCE is really hard to get benDos: It really seems like i ought to be making more than i'll be making after a year or two
for seattle anyway kusuriya: you have to get your lower certs (there are 4 of them) then have 6 years int he industry benDos: jebus kusuriya: and have written 3 case studies benDos: hah oh microsoft kusuriya: and then you must submit a case study for review by the exchange team benDos: why would anyone do an IT undergrad instead of some cert like that kusuriya: and you wait to be invited to the test
MCE is invite only at the very end benDos: Mooooaaarrrr coffffeeee </zombievoice> kusuriya: benDos: its kidna like getting your PHD
you have to do a lot of work for it qbit: halla ***: AmberJ_ has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +v AmberJ_ qbit: yay coffee! -: qbit makes some benDos: Hay
Yeah i'm about to go grab some from work then go to the library to do some math hw! dbtid: hi qbit benDos: awwee yeeaah qbit: sup dbtid o/ benDos: dbtid, i wonder if jrick divided by zero... qbit: ha dbtid: not much
you? qbit: coffeemakin benDos: qbit, you roasting some beats now?
cast iron pan on an open fire?
beans...
Drop beats sip'n beans yo. dbtid: me too shortly qbit: benDos: haven't tried again yet
need to get a popcorn roaster benDos: Heh :p qbit: er
popper benDos: Whatever i know what you meant jrick: yeah that problem is still unsolved benDos: wut.
My suggestion didn't work? jrick: couldn't get it
me and my whole team (5 people total) spent forever working on it benDos: Oohkay :/
I'll play around with it again when i get to work in a few hours
I really thought that was how you did it.. -: benDos is pretty shit at math though benDos: oh done with this class bbiab ***: benDos has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) qbit: jrick: have you looked into cases for the n4 yet ?
s/ yet // lazylopez_: jrick: have you looked into cases for the n4? jrick: nope
don't need one qbit: kew
i noticed a micro scratch on the screen.. totally paranoid now jrick: front? that sucks qbit: heh.. i cna't find it now
so meh kusuriya: score got webshell running qbit: 23ll
er
well
^ should be its name :D ***: benDos has joined #devious
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ChanServ sets mode: +v benDossBot benDos: jrick, I ran it by one of my more mathematically inclined friends jrick: "abandon all hope, ye who enter here"? benDos: The method i suggested works on a plane but with the actual positions of R, A, and C unknown off the top of their head they didn't know if it still worked
wb benDossBot benDossBot: Thanks benDos jrick: we know the positions of A B and C
and the distance between them benDos: You told me you knew A B and C were on a line
and AB and BC were both distance D jrick: so those are our beacons and our robot is somewhere one one side of that line, and we need to know where the robot is with respect to those beacons benDos: Right ok jrick: and we determine where to put the beacons benDos: The beacons need to be on a line, and not surrounding R? jrick: hm you said drawing a straight line down from R to line AB or BC (whichever) and making a right triangle? benDos: Yup jrick: they don't need to be on a line but that's what we thought would be the easiest to solve the problem
we can put those literally anywhere benDos: Oh..
I then believe putting them 120 degrees apart around the area would be easier jrick: let me sketch that out benDos: Way way easier imo
equilateral triangle ABC, within ABC in the point R
You have the angle ARB, BRC, AND CRA lteo: i want to equilateralize your triangle at an angle in the point R, if you know what i mean jrick: ok I see, now to try the math benDos: lteo, you have a phd you should up in here solving jrick's problems
not mocking them qbit: nono.. stick with mocking benDos: s/k/ky lazylopez_: nono.. sticky with mockying qbit: you have a phd.. time for others to suffer to get what you have benDos: :p jrick: a phd is a license to say silly stuff lteo: ^ -: lteo say, "silly stuff" lteo: benDos: a phd means i'm damaged beyond repair, so i'm useless now benDos: Your adviser drained you of all intellectual capitol?
"I'll be needing you to put in at least like 75 hours this week, it's really important you finish my paper for me by like next thursday" - Every PhD Adviser Ever lteo: pretty much yeah. you do all the hard work, they add their name at the end
also there's so much bullcrap being published that have no practical value benDos: If you're lucky, they get bored of you and want a newer bigger titted candidate within 5 years so they give you the phd and kick your ass out lteo: as long as they give you your phd before kicking your ass out, you're fine benDos: I feel so bad for my friend getting his phd in germany mcchunkie: that's what she said! benDos: mcchunkie: no mcchunkie: Sorry: "I feel so bad for my friend getting his phd in germany" benDos: I mean i get that they pay him
But not like a real salary lteo: oh dude yes that's the other thing benDos: You are still treated like a student,except you teach classes ghostwrite papers and books for your advisor, for like over a decade lteo: for years my income was barely above federal poverty line benDos: lteo, but you totally get tax breaks for being a full time student
so after tax sometimes you're ever above the poverty line
even* lteo: i dunno about that brah.
anyway meeting benDos: So it's like 60F today
And i want to bbq something fierce
jrick, what's the word? jrick: sorry I've been discussing some xombrero stuff with conformal peeps
but I don't know how arranging them this way help
s
hm benDos: jrick, you have an angle from each A B and C to your R inside of triangle ABC jrick: yes benDos: You take lines from A B and C at the angle you get into the tringle ***: cmeiklejohn has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn benDos: where they intersect is where your R is piroko: We are still talking about this. lol benDos: Math is hard bro mcchunkie: aw, where's the pun in that? benDos: mcchunkie: no mcchunkie: Sorry: "Math is hard bro" piroko: HEY GUYS benDos: Hai? piroko: Ke$ha's warrior album is up on spotify now. http://open.spotify.com/album/0gT5HL6RnvHBxJ2gY7lidR
You're welcome qbit: ha -: benDos is listening to La Coka Nostra piroko: You think I'm kidding, yet I'm rocking out to it for the 8th time this week right now qbit: oh no - i belive you :P piroko: haha good benDos: Whatever this is some hardcore metal and hip hop.
And free coffee from work
good shit -: qbit has never had good free coffee piroko: ^^ benDos: Fucking snobs
It's free
Know what though
I am still in college qbit: but i am a coffeeist benDos: Maybe my taste buds for free things will mature after i graduate in a few months qbit: ya.. being a coffeeist in college makes you a hipster benDos: This is no idea what type of coffee with no name brand creamer
but the price is right
and it's hot and has caffeine
qbit, do you also <3 Ill Bill (rapper)? piroko: deliciousness of food = quality of food / cost of food benDos: s/d/d+0.00000000000000000001 lazylopez_: d+0.00000000000000000001eliciousness of food+0.00000000000000000001 = quality of food+0.00000000000000000001 / cost of food+0.00000000000000000001 benDos: Oh.
I wanted d$
Aaanyway
Ohh kusuriya orca card works on sound transit!!! =D ***: Gallomimia has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +v Gallomimia benDos: qbit, http://youtu.be/Dicn1qsVKwU BryceBot: YouTube Music: "La Coka Nostra - Cousin of Death [Director's Cut]" by LaCokaNostra (4m 51s), 550,616 views, 2,854 likes and 34 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-01T20:42:04.000Z. ***: lwhalen_ has quit IRC (Quit: Got Root?) benDos: though some random actor in the video none of the dudes from LCN tydeas: .quit ***: tydeas has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7)
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These dinky little ear buds have a cruddy woofer ***: AmberJ__ has joined #devious benDos: Holy shit guys, wolfram alpha does geometry too! snk: nice -: snk gets out his sysadmin shotgub snk: s/gub/gun -: lazylopez_ gets out his sysadmin shotgun ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) snk: somone is trying to setup a hadoop cluster using our network storage as a backend
now I have to read enough about hadoop to tell them that it's a terrible idea benDos: That doesn't sound totally insane? AmberJ_: Damn, Amazon Prime Student works only for students of USA universities :( snk: benDos: well, they want to put it on our AFS storage
which, is terribly slow for computational tasks
and has tons of ACLs that will most certainly not be happy with a hadoop master node trying to all the reads and writes piroko: wew http://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/
That top post is my wife snk: lol piroko: She didn't say it
It was just on her feed benDos: snk, doesn't afs do lots of local caching? sharvey: jesus
my university built a brain
and I mostly had no idea benDos: sharvey, that IBM cat brain? sharvey: then they did an ama, which I also was not aware of
benDos: no, spaun qbit: :D
even i knew about that! benDos: Did not.
That was a /me * sharvey: benDos: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/147gqm/we_are_the_computational_neuroscientists_behind/
I know *two* people on that team
two qbit: lol sharvey: jesus christ I've been living under a rock benDos: Heh sweet
neural nets are fun :) dxtr: svn <73 snk: benDos: "lots" of local caching is whatever the size of the local machine's /var/cache/openafs partition is dxtr: </3 snk: usually about 3GBs in our environment
the default afs config sets a 512MB cache
in any case
ours is designed for document/code storage
not storage for scalable computation benDos: Heh -: benDos is overly cynical about anything hadoop related brycec: fuckyeah AFS
LMAO 08:43:14 <+snk> somone is trying to setup a hadoop cluster using our network storage as a backend
snk: fwiw every Hadoop setup I've seen has used directly-attached storage, sometimes even RAID10. Keeps it fast, doesn't use network resources (which are already busy transporting the workload around), and did I mention it's fast?
Those are the bullet points you could pass along. "I don't know much about Hadoop, but..." benDos: I AM NOT looking forward to having to use hadoop for work next year :/ brycec: My favourite part is to say the name. hadOOP benDos: IT's just so fucking java-y in the setup brycec: but benDos <3 Java... benDos: As a runtime sure
People shipping java code seem to distribute their project in the worst ways imaginable brycec: Scumbag Waterloo... I blame sharvey for this. three names, FOUR PEOPLE http://imgur.com/TUo0x
unless "Terry Xuan" is actually "Terry" and "Xuan"... snk: brycec: so, is the locally attached storage local storage on ALL the nodes? sharvey: benDos: there's 4 names brycec: that could be sharvey: terry and xuan
I know xuan and trevor snk: or is it only on the master node, and shared to the slave nodes? brycec: snk: yes, every node gets a $cheapdrive or two snk: gotcha
i _though_ that was the point of hadoop
*thought qbit: na brycec: each node's workload gets pulled locally, molested, and given back to the master. qbit: it's point is to make benDos rage snk: was 32345 cheap servers with cheap disks == hadoop cluster kyl: moin qbit: hai kyl brycec: so that workload sits locally and the fast storage means it can store/fetch pieces of it quickly. Just imagine the congestion if all the nodes were slamming a SAN
lol sharvey dbtid: hello kyl brycec: well this pic made it look like they were being held hostage :P http://imgur.com/mEMue (for ransom) sharvey: hahahahaha
I'll forward that to them
I see trevor on thursday, due to unrelated meeting brycec: ha AmberJ_: Cool, I can try free 1 month trial of Amazon Prime! brycec: now then, to start my heavy metal band... SLAM THE SAN sharvey: hahahaha AmberJ_: +for free sharvey: brycec: is it made of heavy metals? -: AmberJ_ is purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 brycec: sharvey: heavy metals are an integral component, yes dxtr: Man..
Since June I've transferred 2TB of data :/ brycec: damn dxtr you be slackin' dxtr: Oh yeah
But I've also received around 2TB brycec: I've downloaded 562,271MB of data since Dec 1. benDos: Jebus. brycec: Though to be fair, I'm not sure how... I'm just going by what pfSense tells me benDos: I'm at like 10's of gigs / month :x
Ohhh brycec: But seriously, I do pull hundreds of GB/mo qbit: ^ kyl: goddamn pirate
s brycec: Yarrrr -: qbit checks hsi arp cactus qbit: yearly 1 day average is 1.46 tb AmberJ_: Does anyone owns a Galaxy Note 10.1 here? benDos: So seriously, at what point does someone who has never been academically dishonest just pay someone to take a class for them
Cause if I fail calculus again I do not foresee having the patience to fail it again brycec: aww I have some catching up to do, I'm only at 17.81GB for the year with ARP (then again, I've only had an ARP since October) ***: cmeiklejohn has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn dxtr: brycec: Don't you guys have bandwidth caps over there? :P brycec: dxtr: many residential ISP's do nowadays
Does Bryce? NOPE! :P benDos: I keep reading that time warner has caps
but whenever i call them or sign in, i can't find anything like that for m
for me* dxtr: brycec: And it costs you a small fortune? :P brycec: Sweet - in the last 4 weeks, I've downloaded ~490GB (more accurately counted)
dxtr: $100/mo on my res connection.
My business connection... well business connections just have no caps dxtr: lawl, $100 :/ brycec: ($95 if you want to be more accurate) dxtr: Add 10-20% and you'd get gigabit brycec: I assure you, if I could add anything and get GbE, I would seriously consider it. qbit: guys haiku is hte best os ever kyl: qbit: bro false -: brycec waits for kyl to chime in kyl: it is a good OS
but it is not the best brycec: oh damn beat me kyl: and trust me qbit: :D kyl: I <3 haiku more than you qbit: i don't thank so bro kyl: i do
do you have all the BeOS dev books? brycec: he also <3'd haike before you qbit: how many compieputers do you have it on right now? kyl: 'cuz I do qbit: kyl: indeed i do :O kyl: i have it on two VMs qbit: beos was the first os i ever purchased ! kyl: o/ qbit: o kyl: i still have the R3, R4, and R5 -: qbit only has r5 kyl: if i ever find a bebox i will buy it, no question asked brycec: For those wondering whether DOCSIS 3 is worth it, I present my latency and packet loss between my router and my ISP's first-hop/router. The upgrade should be apparent. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-04_09-25-48.png benDos: brycec, i'm on docsis 3 qbit: what is awesome about pueblo .. it has docsis 3 .. but springs doesn't
gofrigguure brycec: lawl qbit -: lteo is frigguuring it out
brycec will make a better graph... brycec: better graph https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-04_09-29-58.png qbit: http://open.spotify.com/album/3iAhgPaqgnKT1Zw9Nueriz <---- naked lady album!!!! snk!! brycec: (link IS nsfw) -: AmberJ_ clicks qbit's link desperately :P AmberJ_: .troll lazylopez_: is OpenBSD open source? qbit: haha AmberJ_: benDos, there's an amazing online course starting on Coursera in January!
at least the promo looks very interesting
s/promo/promo video for class lazylopez_: at least the promo video for class looks very interesting benDos: AmberJ_, what class? lwhalen: oh jesus H Christ
ninjapants: I want this for christmas - http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=303678&d=1354636382 benDos: That's purdy. AmberJ_: benDos, https://www.coursera.org/course/calcsing benDos: AmberJ_, that won't help
I need calc 2 that my college with accept
They do not accept credits from coursera :p AmberJ_: benDos, the instructor for this course the craziest book I had ever seen: http://www.math.upenn.edu/~ghrist/FLCT/
heh kyl: benDos: some advice snk: qbit: share it to me on spotify brah kyl: don't fail calc2 snk: so that I don't have to click benDos: kyl, dude I try every time
They teach methods of integration by hand, and THAT is what is on the final qbit: sent benDos: I've done 30+ hours per week on calclus and my brain just does not remember how to do shit by hand in math that complicated snk: mmm, nekkid ladies in my inbox kyl: so learn those methods of integration
and bpt do them by hand AmberJ_: benDos, Ok, they don't accept credits from coursera but you can watch online courses to understand the concepts and then pass your exams.
what kyl said^ benDos: bpt? brycec: British Petroleum Tycoon, duh benDos: I do learn them, every time i take the course
But since I already know how to do it faster and more accurately online or by looking up formulas
My brain is all :"fuck you ben, i won't remember this method by hand even if you spend 50 hours doing problems for just that method of integration" kyl: be parepared to
well then, your brain is holding you back qbit: haha benDos: That's what i'm say'n. kyl: i suggest punishing it through the use of ethanol
heavy use thereof benDos: That at this point, if i won't get the degree without that class lteo: benDos: is there any crazy mnemonic thingy that you can memorize, that when you go into the exam, the first thing you do is do a brain dump of that mnemonic thing by writing it on the exam paper so you remember? benDos: It probably makes sense to pay someone to take it for me
lteo, na the class covers too much tbh
Idk :/ AmberJ_: +1 lteo :D
I do this all the time kyl: maybe bendos just wasn't mean to get his degree benDos: kyl, certainly seems that way kyl: he shall forever be doomed to join our ranks benDos: No no
I'll just shift my efforts from actually learning calculus to cheating like a fucking boss
Cause i really want that mother fucking degree already. kyl: i'll write a letter to the dean
alleging academic impropriety AmberJ_: that's the spirit benDos benDos: I've met several professors i'm more versed in comp sci than
AmberJ_, this book is kind of hard to read :/
the font lteo: bro, i met a professor who has a phd from uc berkeley and whose area is spam research. and he doesn't know how spam RBLs worked
i described it to him, and he was like, "oooohhh so that's how it works" benDos: :<
Point being if i don't get catch no one will ever give a shit
caught* kyl: benDos: math is hard, you should go shopping mcchunkie: twss! benDos: kyl, i'm actually better at math than most of my friends AmberJ_: s/shopp/facebook benDos: just not with pen and paper lazylopez_: kyl, i'm actually better at math than most of my friends -: benDos is a graph theory pro kyl: well if you can't do it by hand, you're clearly not good at math
you're good at telling the computer how to math benDos: That must be it.. lteo: maybe get some tips from people who have passed the class? dbtid: i didn't think calc 2 was "hard" -- just a whole lot of WORK.
the people who did the homework did well.
but perhaps calc 2 has changed
knowing all the major trig identities made a big difference benDos: lteo, the people i know who passed it barely passed and also took calc in hs
Man idk i'm doing all the homeworks, really it's just not something my brain remembers
AmberJ_, this textbook is rough brycec: s/this/yourmom/ lazylopez_: AmberJ_, yourmom textbook is rough benDos: Heh <3 dovecot just got a log msg: Dec 04 12:03:04 imap: Error: Time just moved backwards by 1 seconds. I'll sleep now until we're back in present. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards dxtr: Fuck me for picking eco friendly computer
computers* benDos: What does that even mean? dxtr: I want my living room to get warm, but they still send off a cool breeze when they're under heavy load benDos: Isn't it still made of mega toxic plastics and heavy metals?
Oh :p brycec: lol dxtr benDos: I can trade you my old desktop if you want, i never once turned the heat in my office at home last winter brycec: I've got a nice warm server closet kusuriya: dxtr: you need to get closer to the metal to generate heat brycec: It's literally 15F warmer than my office ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) zod000: brycec: that's nuts dxtr: kusuriya: Like licking the disks in the disks? zod000: 15F warmer and I'd be rediculously unformatable brycec: zod000: it's awesome. Before, all that stuff was in my office zod000: err uncomfortable brycec: zod000: but now it's closed away in the closet benDos: zod000, you were right the first time kusuriya: dxtr: like node.js BryceBot: BAREMETAL!!! dxtr: oh right
kusuriya: IT'S SO COLD OUTSIDE
-7C :( kusuriya: dxtr: you need more coffee benDos: Pussy.
.wa -7c to f brycec: benDos: skunkbot is awol
.wa is skunkbot benDos: Oh
It's 20F zod000: it is a pleasant 22C here dxtr: kusuriya: I have no coffee :( benDos: That's fucking bbq weather dxtr
step your shit up dxtr: benDos: Well, it's a fucking blizzard outside and I wanna go buy pizza mcchunkie: TWSS! kusuriya: dxtr: get a coat and go do it dxtr: It's gonna be -14 on Thursday :( kusuriya: DO IT NAO! benDos: dxtr, do socialists not deliver pizza? dxtr: benDos: Does not seem like so, no kusuriya: benDos: no because if you buy one pizza and have it delivered you have to buy everyone in the building pizza benDos: kusuriya, makes a valid point kusuriya: its the socalist way dxtr: It's fucking expensive to get it delivered home :( zod000: kusuriya: no, that is the communist way, the socialist way is that the government provides everyone with a pizza fund, but they can only buy it from SwedPizzaCo benDos: That's cause socialists are always bitching and whining about a "living wage"
fuck that
We have capitolism bitches
living wages are for pinko commies dxtr: zod000: No, that's the 'merican socialism kusuriya: we need to go back to employing children for 2.50 an hour dxtr: Real socialism is "that the government provides everyone with a pizza fund"
Period benDos: kusuriya, yeah! that'll teach our high school grads what they have to look forward to
get your hs diploma now walmart will hire you at a below the poverty line full time position hooray! zod000: i had to work when i was a kid, but not for 2.5, i got 4.25! benDos: jk not full time 28 hours so you don't get health care kusuriya: benDos: nah we all help walmart pay their employees dxtr: This pizza place has 'MURKAN PIZZAS benDos: zod000, dollars or deblooms? kusuriya: walmart is clearly a government institution benDos: I'm not really sure how it's legal to even have full time positions that pay below the poverty line zod000: benDos: doubloons of course dxtr: zod000: I earned shitloads of money when I was a kid because the minimum wages are so high and I didn't have to pay tax :p benDos: dxtr, and as a kid your expenses are pretty minimal zod000: my parents made me get a job when i was 14, but they heavily restrict how many hours you can work then
i think it was like 10 a week dxtr: benDos: $16/hr zod000: until 16 dxtr: And no tax benDos: I was working off the books when i was that age zod000 :x
so no restriction on my hours
dxtr, lol
No one is going to believe you that in soviet swedish there is no income tax zod000: benDos: i worked off the books for my stepfather's business as well, that paid a lot more but was sporadic dxtr: benDos: If I earn less than 30k SEK/per (plus some, I think) there's no tax! benDos: dxtr, so why make more than that kyl: per what? ***: cachopo has joined #devious benDos: Obviously if the govt pays for things for you dxtr: kyl: Per year :( benDos: you have no reason tow ork kyl: because if that's per year benDos: </romnasty> kyl: that sucks jrick: so benDos I was playing with that suggestion for a little while in class and I don't think it gets us anywhere farther
I could just be stupid though dxtr: You are jrick: ok benDos: Hmm
I'll sketch it out for a sec dxtr: Don't worry about it, jrick, us smart people already solved it jrick: dxtr: cool. can i haz the solution? benDos: hah dxtr: jrick: What for? Just go and touch yourself or whatever you do -: kusuriya gets paid from sweden for playing with himself jrick: sorry won't cut it ***: strings has joined #devious dxtr: kusuriya: EVERYTHING IS WHITE OUTSIDE
IT'S SNOWING HORIZONTALLY kusuriya: sweet
dxtr: ill be over in an hour to do snow angels dxtr: Fuck yeah, it stopped snowing
Now is my chance to get pizza kusuriya: doooeet AmberJ_: benDos, I didn't got time to read this book. But I'm yet to see a Calculus writeup as crazy as this one! :D dxtr: It's now or never
Wish me luck lwhalen: oh god
I worry about myself sometimes -: kusuriya hands dxtr a pistol kusuriya: its dangerous to go alone zod000: work just bought free pizza, must by dxtr's influence kyl: lteo: did you see 40% off at nsp? brah lwhalen: we are all familiar with Eazy E's "Boyz In Da Hood", right? kusuriya: lwhalen: yep kyl: ... lwhalen: "Cuz the stacks from Jay-Boss are always large, they come spittin' that trash and the readin' is hard" -: kyl looks up on youtube lwhalen: "wanting nothing in life but to read() init(), don't post that trash just paste-bin it" -: lwhalen crunks for the camera lwhalen: !seen ninjapants BryceBot: lwhalen, I last saw ninjapants 4 days 23 hours 37 min 25 sec ago saying in a channel: ha - this one's good, too http://cheezburger.com/6813015808. dxtr: zod000: Work gives me a free christmas dinner tomorrow :D
With booze and shit kusuriya: "I gotta get drunk before i start vim" dxtr: Also, pizza on Friday zod000: dxtr: christmas is 3 weeks away, they need to ge ta calendar dxtr: Fuck that
Who wants to meet up with job people during christmas!? zod000: we have an open bar christmas party, but i am not going this year
kids have made a babysitter too hard to get kusuriya: dxtr: open bar? dxtr: kusuriya: WITH LOADS OF GLÖGG kusuriya: ill be there! dxtr: Titties
!
Don't ask me where we're crashing, though
I live 160km from there kyl: ewww glögg zod000: ouch kusuriya: lwhalen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeL9gagV_VA i perfer that version BryceBot: YouTube Music: "Dynamite Hack-"Boyz In The Hood"_ SEMI-OFFICIAL VIDEO" by Robitussn (3m 15s), 444,503 views, 2,760 likes and 86 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-06-24T19:27:04.000Z. zod000: dxtr: i have the same prob with our parties dxtr: zod000: Really? Do you also live far away from work? :P lwhalen: yup, seen it
there's also a bluegrass cover of Gin and Juice out there kusuriya: dxtr: can we just crash in your cubicle? lwhalen: which is EQUALLY hysterical zod000: dxtr: yeah, about 35 miles, takes about 45 min to drive it dxtr: Boyz in the hood!? Moar like New wheels on the block! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0vULHixL0 BryceBot: YouTube Comedy: "Boys On Wheels - New Wheels on the Block" by AdLibsComedy (3m 59s), 78,223 views, 167 likes and 8 dislikes. Uploaded 2007-06-10T23:04:42.000Z. kusuriya: dxtr: thats how we know sweden is different
no newtwork here would have the balls to subtitle disabled people dxtr: Haha zod000: dxtr: we don't actually have the parties at work as they are too rowdy, we rent out a place dxtr: zod000: that's what we do too
But everyone lives in Stockholm
I don't
kusuriya: Look through the swedish song and watch the rest :P
It's hilarious kusuriya: dxtr: i am :D
its great
dxtr: http://youtu.be/1ivTKRSURsQ better BryceBot: YouTube Comedy: "Punks On Wheels" by serrifax (2m 15s), 308,162 views, 815 likes and 38 dislikes. Uploaded 2007-11-09T16:49:54.000Z. dxtr: kusuriya: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0hbg79ftU kusuriya: pretty awesome
im almost to the point i can understand it being spoken at pace :o
sort of dxtr: What? The way he's talking? kusuriya: nah swedish in general dxtr: Oh right
Titties kusuriya: damn youtube vids dxtr: (Pro-tip: Those videos are norwegian) kusuriya: damn me -: kusuriya commits suicide dxtr: :D trafficone: :> mcchunkie: oh god.. why would you use that face!!!!! dxtr: If you say "fra" in Norwegian you say "from", if you say "fra" in swedish you're talking about the national military surveillance thing kyl: trafficone: :< kusuriya: meh i should learn spanish
also dxtr: Oh god that's horrible trafficone: por que? kusuriya: que paso, work work trafficone: Tienes que morir del mano de puta mexicana? kusuriya: La migra, endale! dxtr: PUTA MADRE kusuriya: Tu mare? dxtr: MIERDA! trafficone: cierra la boca dxtr: That's all I know
Oh, I know hora! trafficone: jaja dxtr: I know because it means whore in swedish trafficone: :-D kusuriya: cuanto de su burro? dxtr: burrito? kusuriya: no burro
dxtr: burro == �sna
ish dxtr: Aight
"ish"
Can it be more or less a donkey? kusuriya: yeah im not sure if that would be totally the right word for donkey
burrito literally translated means Little Donkey trafficone: gordito literally translated means "fatty" kusuriya: well a gordita as you would order it at taco bell means "Fat Girl" ***: cmeiklejohn has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn kusuriya: i know a couple hispanic freinds of mine that chuckle everytime some one orders a "Gordita extra cheese" zod000: lol ***: cachopo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) kusuriya: papi chulo was always one of thoose terms of endearment i couldt ever get though
its like im sorry dont call me daddy in any form
ever
... EVER trafficone: wisdom kusuriya: it just makes me feel weird when i meet girls with such a daddy complex they want to call me daddy
jesus christ http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/15/10/enhanced-buzz-25476-1352993892-9.jpg trafficone: more like Cheesus Christ amirite? kyl: cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese trafficone: TBH, that's how being on a keto diet feels
esp. since I actually did that kyl: i couldn't do a keto diet qbit: whoa chrome has a windows 8 mode trafficone: (not in public, mind)
s/chrome/windows 8/ lazylopez_: (not in public, mind) trafficone: wait, is that a dude or a chick? kusuriya: keto diets are generally stupid honestly
trafficone: i cant tell...
i did a lot of research and everything about keytosis came back to one thing which was keytosis is the bodys emergency long running starvation state where your body will start canibalizing its self to keep you alive ***: JainAmber has joined #devious
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_kapu_ has joined #devious brycec: "These Cheezit Extremes are not cheesy enough..." _kapu_: put cheese on them brycec: _kapu_: it was in reference to 10:56:30 <+kusuriya> jesus christ
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/15/10/enhanced-buzz-25476-1352993892-9.jpg kusuriya: THESE CHEESEIT EXTREMES ARE NOT CHEESY ENOUGH! _kapu_: ahh kusuriya: that is why america is fat _kapu_: Its often the case that I am not in the loop. I should work on this. Or maybe not kyl: that's not the only reason brycec: I admit, I have gnawed upon a block of cheese... But never that big of a block, and I never ate the whole thing. ***: AmberJ_ has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +v AmberJ_ kusuriya: yeah ive cut me a small block _kapu_: I eat lots'o-cheese kusuriya: maybe the size of 2 cheese sticks
but eat straight off the damn block _kapu_: Any of you good people vim golfers?
I just found out about it and am having some fun with this game
its pretty cool brycec: woooo zpool scrub on just 2TB of data has taken 12 hours kusuriya: o/ ***: JainAmber has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) _kapu_: I thought I was good until I did vimgolf. A humbling experience. brycec: But that's on old-fashioned rotating magnetic media. Scrubbing a volume of SSD's is much, much faster :) kusuriya: i bet _kapu_: submitted my solution and got like 6th place, there are some really crazy good vim guys there kusuriya: specially since you get get 6Gbit from it brycec: Nah, these are on a SATA2 controller, only 150MB/s piroko: qbit: wat is windows 8 mode? kusuriya: aw
piroko: Metro brycec: Even so, 20GB scrubbed in <2m qbit: piroko, basically fullscreen lteo: 12:22 <@kyl> lteo: did you see 40% off at nsp? brah
kyl: -.- brycec: well lteo brah, did ya? lteo: no did not brah brycec: pfft rame lteo: i need to actually finish at least one chapter of the n books i bought this year before i can justify buying more lwhalen: any of you guys know how to read legalese?
a good friend of mine owns his own very small consulting company lteo: i know how to read it, but doesn't mean i understand it ;) lwhalen: and he wants to hire me to buy and install a SAN for one of his clients trafficone: I can read and understand it, but I might miss a nuance lwhalen: even though he's a good close personal friend of mine brycec: ditto, I'm no expert. And I certainly can't write it. lwhalen: he dropped an NDA/non-compete on me that seems... a little excessive brycec: lwhalen: drop it on us and let us review it?
CROWDSOURCE IT trafficone: wait brycec: GROUPBRAIN GO lwhalen: http://pastebin.com/yUB1SN44 trafficone: is the NDA self-referential? brycec: heh a lot of them are :p trafficone: lwhalen: if it's excessive, that's actually a potential weakness on his part
because if he sues, you can use that against him in court lteo: "You shall not disclose that this NDA even exists." trafficone: although, it'd be "nicer" to present an NDA you can agree to lwhalen: here's my response to his lawyer (also a close friend of mine), hence the informal tone:
http://pastebin.com/6yAYm4fq brycec: it's a lot of boilerplate stuff, of course lwhalen: my biggest concern is line 14 (in my response) brycec: "information of the Company and Company’s clients;"
?
oh lwhalen: http://pastebin.com/6yAYm4fq - The above and stuff like it is perfectly fine and reasonable. Should I do any of the above, I deserve to get the courtly ban-hammer dropped upon me like the fist of an angry god trafficone: lwhalen: that's more important for account execs lwhalen: that line
and line 16 sharvey: lol
so
my visa application
tries to avoid as many gender-specific words as possible
and then failed at that kusuriya: lwhalen: the noncompete id ask them to drop because of the survival clause sharvey: so I'm a he according to this visa application trafficone: sharvey: haha kusuriya: because once you terminate me FUCK YOU ill work for who i want sharvey: damn you male-dominated field
of software engineering benDos: wait
what happened sharvey? brycec: Who cares what your gender so long as they give you a decent credit limit sharvey: my visa application has a part that explains what I'll be doing in the states trafficone: haha
bbl sharvey: "the trainee/intern will do this, that, etc." benDos: sharvey, taking jobs from americans sharvey: and hten a part said "he will be ..."
I was like, -.- benDos: Hah
Yeeeaaaaa lteo: benDos: sharvey lives in north america ;) benDos: sharvey, you know that for a while cs has more females than almost all the other sciences lteo: counterstrike yeah! benDos: it's only the last decade or so women (all of them) decided that programming was lame and graphic design is where it's at sharvey: yeah
:(
pansies benDos: bring it up at the next lady meeting? kusuriya: lwhalen: also note their survival clause ivalidates their entire NDA/noncompete in most state courts :) sharvey: nah, I'm just entertained
I might pin it up or something on the wall
because it's pretty lols kusuriya: i know Cali and WA state "limits or terms of a contract can not extend past the length of the compensated portion of the contract." brycec: ^ sounds like it pertains to an employment contract, which this is not. kusuriya: the judge essencially broke it down in WA stating if you want to keep access to an employees personal copyrights and have terms that exist beyond the contract you must keep the contract in perpetuity and the terms of the compensation for such
brycec: employment and other work contracts
the judes state you cant have terms of a contract that last beyond the length of the contract lteo: right. once my length shortens, it's over. brycec: Generall speaking lwhalen I'd say the contract looks pretty standard, pretty boilerplate, so there's at least nothing unusual or "hinky" in it. kusuriya: yeah
my only complaint in it is the survival, id ask either strike the non compete and keep survival or strike survival and keep the non compete
those are the options id give them brycec: That said, I would request a provision be added, given that you are a general IT contractor, that you may work with their clients outside of the contract provided you do nothing to "compete" with Company, LLC. Just my $.02
perhaps - provided that Company, LLC signs off on it. kusuriya: i generally strike both if i can
ive never ran into an issue with it but im in WA who generally finds in favor of the contractor so brycec: (e.g. Client needs you do install some light bulbs, which Company LLC clearly has no interest in.) kusuriya: things i like about WA, they genrally say FUCK YOUR NONCOMPETE SON brycec: (I lol'd at your response's line 14 lwhalen ) kusuriya: ^ brycec: Line 20 -- yep, you caught them using boilerplate stuff and they didn't update the #s -: brycec has done that many times
brycec has executed a few contracts, if you know what he means. ;) kusuriya: alll right
and if it was me id have them fix 9 to 4
otherwise they may slip in the missing sections ;) brycec: ^ lteo: if they slip in something long in the bottom section, it might be painful for you in the long run AmberJ_: Quality of education in India: Quoting a question from end semester exam: "What are exceptions in C?" :( kyl: AmberJ_: well, what are they/ benDos: Trick question lteo: i bet it's a tirck question kyl: AmberJ_: let's see how educated you are brycec: "fatal" benDos: It's actually not a trick question of fatal AmberJ_: err... here is the exact question: benDos: they want you to check the over flow register flags AmberJ_: "What is a exception in C programming language?" qbit: http://sourceforge.net/p/keepass/discussion/329221/thread/b9e743f3#8391
^^^ all you gentoo dudes benDos: AmberJ_: "Exceptions are not part of the c99 or gnu99 c spec." qbit: the cairo USE flag
what is that lteo: answer: exceptions are not used in C, but if really needed, they can be simulated with setjmp and longjmp. however doing so is considered bad practice. the programmer is better off choosing a language that does allow exceptions like C++ or Java. AmberJ_: The instructor uses 20-30 year old Turbo C++ compiler (based on DOS)... so there is no doubt that instructor is totally stupid. qbit: is that equiv to adding ./configure --with-cairo in libgdiplus? AmberJ_: lteo, that^ benDos: no...
longjmp can be used to do exceptions
but 110% longjmp is not exceptions
period
they may be asking about errno.h? lteo: that's why i say "simulated" ;) AmberJ_: The instructor didn't really meant simulating or doing something similar... She is really really stupid! She teaches from a pre-ansi-c89 book! benDos: k&r brah! trafficone: haha benDos: ALL THINGS ARE INT UNLESS YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE TROLLOLOLOLOL mcchunkie: that's what she said! ***: ninjapants has joined #devious lteo: exceptions in C are done by first writing a C++ compiler in C, and then writing a C++ program that does exceptions which will be compiled by said compiler. kyl: the instructor is clearly dumb benDos: I think there is a case to be made that exceptions in c are errno patterns trafficone: ^ kyl: 'a' is not the appropriate article for 'exception' benDos: kyl, fuck you bro
quit hate'n in indians
you don't know
maybe they don't believe in grammar kyl: or do I? benDos: With their loltastic blasphemy laws 'n shit
And crazy civil wars over which make believe friend is best trafficone: oh, THOSE Indians lteo: i'm confused now kyl: the sky wizard cults are endemic the world over BryceBot: YER A WIZARD kyl AmberJ_: I don't blame her for English. English is usually second language here in India, kyl. But I do blame her for her crap knowledge of CS/C. kyl: nbd js
AmberJ_: I was being facetious... qbit: HOLY SHIT I FIXED IT! lteo: o/ kyl: qbit: what are you even doing with gentoo? brah qbit: openbsd lteo: qbit fixed mono. this is not a simple feat. kyl: the fuck are you trying to fix mono for? AmberJ_: .define facetious lazylopez_: To make an attempt at being funny, while being sarcastic at the same time.Jacky was being facetious when she said, "Yes, let's all go to Iraq for my birthday party!" qbit: keepass kyl: ... benDos: AmberJ_,
what answer did you put? lteo: kyl: what, you don't want to keep your ass? trafficone: dude, Iraq has this great ice cream and IED place kyl: lteo: no, I am trying to trim down my girlish figure brah kusuriya: scones while you wair
**wait kyl: trafficone: s/ice cream/falafel/ trafficone: FALAFEL BATTLE! benDos: FUCK THAT
SHWARMA BITCHES lteo: kyl: ok brah. i mean you go girl AmberJ_: benDos, this question appeared in exam for 7th semester. I'm in 11th semester :D SO, I didn't had to answer this question. mcchunkie: aw, where's the pun in that? kyl: lteo: bro o/ ? benDos: Oh. qbit: lteo: http://deftly.net/keepassfix.diff benDos: The correct answer would have been errno and macromagicks
fact ^ kyl: the correct answer would have been fuck this, i'm out lteo: qbit: hawt AmberJ_: +1 kyl kyl: call me when you learn some c AmberJ_: I'm collecting exam papers for all semesters this year and I'm gonna do a writeup insulting all those crap teachers in my college. benDos: s/l.+/have a degree lazylopez_: I'm cohave a degree benDos: doh.
wanted the l :x
AmberJ_, instead of that
want to come to america
and take my calculus final for me
I'll pay you in like AmberJ_: lol no.. :P mcchunkie: That's what c0sh said! AmberJ_: I suck at calculus benDos: $10,000 worth of C99 info pages trafficone: calculus is the cornerstone of several areas of modern math lteo: AmberJ_: but you haz friends who rock at calculus right? benDos: trafficone, yeah but none of the cool ones
graph theory is where it's at trafficone: yet many CS people claim that discrete math is the only sexy math
graph theory does rock my socks lteo: graph theory is cutting edge benDos: cause set theory is really really important trafficone: -_- benDos: lteo, fucking zinged bro AmberJ_: lteo, heh yea... they always make me feel inferior! :( benDos: I want to tramp stamp that on myself now lteo: (=^.^=) kyl: >< benDos: trafficone, i just got told that everett would be abit far out kusuriya: it kinda is benDos: the idea that i may pay less than 1000/m for a decent 2bdrm kusuriya: but not really bad benDos: with just an hour 15 or so commute
sounded super sexy
I also want to see how much my car insurance would be cheaper != kings kusuriya: benDos: come down into renton trafficone: haha benDos: light link into work also sounds neat trafficone: yeah benDos: kusuriya, are you in renton proper? trafficone: it really does benDos: everett seemed like 20 to 30% less than where i was looking in kings county for larger apartments trafficone: TBQH, everett has some serious charm. FIOS, proximity to quaint Whidbey Island while still not too far from Seattle, and overall cost of living is cheaper benDos: FIOS you say... -: benDos is looking up whidbey trafficone: IIRC, from Shoreline to Everett there's FIOS, but YMMV, so check w/ Verizon benDos: The wiki article doesn't make it seem that cool? trafficone: it's quaint, not "cool" benDos: Heh ok
Realistically from the sound transit to kings street station
i mean it's like 1:10 or so on the schedule
for all the trains lteo: my hobby is capitalizing SQL keywords kyl: i like to alternate the caps
sElEcT lteo: i like to name my tables as SQL keywords kyl: sElEcT FoO fRoM bAr WhErE bAz='quux'; lteo: CREATE TABLE create(... dbtid: actually, ANSI C has floating point exceptions... that's the term they use, and they use the terminology of "raising" them. no, it's not the C++ meaning of exceptions, but they do use those terms. they also use the term "object", so C is an object-oriented language, too.
and IIRC the new C ?C11? is going to be doing some funky-ass stupid things, too, to make it more like C++
last i heard, there were going to be some extensions for doing threading in C trafficone: dbtid: I thought floating point overflows were in the CPU and you just read the flags from it, or is there another sort of floating point exception I'm confusing? dbtid: trafficone: here's the issue... what does "exception" mean? what does it mean to "raise an exception?"
in C++ it means one thing, in C it means another. benDos: dtthat's what i said :/ dbtid: in the case of C, it's something that gets checked and a status flag is set somewhere. benDos: dbtid, * ^
the register flags trafficone: ah, gotcha dbtid: well, yes, i think the register flags are used to set status flags. by conforming machines. benDos: same thing can be done for int arithmetic on most modern cpu's
I believe SSE or AVX has some more required flag registers dbtid: i don't know of a CPU in the last 20 years, since i started doing embedded systems, that doesn't have a status register. it's kind of an important thing. perhaps on an asynchronously clocked cpu you would do things differently. i don't know. benDos: There aren't (m)any good reasons when designing a cpu to not have those flag registers
You have that information anyway, no reason to force your users to spend dozens of cycles to calculate something you already know -: kusuriya makes a processor with 0 flag registers kusuriya: NONE! benDos: Is it a gpu?
I imagine at least some gpu's don't bother kusuriya: could be trafficone: benDos: that'd make sense, you could save space, and the expectation is that you won't care if there's an issue because there won't be time to correct it benDos: Yeah gpu's don't give two shits about most errors
"OH NOOOOOO a couple pixels may be slightly off for one frame"
seattle has sooooo much suburban sprawl
Every area i zoom into looks the same :/ kusuriya: benDos: seattle is one large city from everett to tacoma and out to redmond benDos: I'm starting to see that now kusuriya: its kinda like looking down the seaboard on the east coast benDos: Heh
And I suppose even half an hour off my commute each way saves me 5 hours a week
yeeeaah trafficone: compared to the Phoenix valley, it just doesn't feel like that much suburban sprawl to me kusuriya: benDos: just note this area has the highest average commute in the US in terms of time benDos: Wtf. kusuriya: yep benDos: I'm confused. lteo: anyone knows a simple markdown parser script that'[s written in perl? benDos: So everyone is telling me that if i do bellevue renton etc my commute will be like
half an hour maybe 45 min right? kusuriya: yep
and thats about right qbit: lteo: https://github.com/bobtfish/text-markdown benDos: But in NYC a significant portion of people commute an hour and half if not more
Man idk lteo: qbit: hawt thanks kusuriya: the average commute in the seattle metro area is 35 miles and 1hr 45 minutes benDos: If i need to chill on a train for another half hour a day, i really need to decide if that's worth another 200sqrt on my apt and another 200 in my pocket per month kusuriya: due to traffic benDos: Hm kusuriya: but if you get on the train or light rail the commute is not affected by traffic
and the busses are affectex less AmberJ_: benDos, lteo, dbtid: This exam paper will show you how dumb the instructor is (if you have a look at other questions). She didn't meant a trick question when she asked about "exceptions in C": http://i.imgur.com/dHazD.jpg
getch(), getche() :P benDos: I don't know off the top of my head what getch and getche are dbtid: iirc getch and getche were DOS functions, one to get a char, one to get a char and echo
yeah, conio.h AmberJ_: right dbtid ... old pre-ansi-c89 compilers dbtid: standard DOS programming AmberJ_: yup benDos: If it isn't linux i don't know shit about it AmberJ_: Don't worry benDos, it's over 20 years old shit benDos: linux is over 20 AmberJ_: I meant getch(), DOS programming when I said 20 years old shit lteo: oh wow i found a really awesome markdown parser thanks to qbit's link
http://www.frykholm.se/files/markdown.lua AmberJ_: "Write a perl code to differentiate between do-while and until loop." (stupid 4 marks question in exam for a post graduate CS program)
"Explain last and next jump statements in perl with example" <-- wtf? there could be better perl questions in a bioinformatics exam... lteo: answer: @$@$9832587jdsifsdkaw9a8$^^$%!%%!%! benDos: Are they seriously testing how well you memorized spec?
Instead of "do x"
or fix y
"Why is this not working"
etc lteo: education is done very differently in other parts of the world brah benDos: "education"? AmberJ_: especially developing countries.. qbit: whoa nice lteo: benDos: in many asian countries, the teacher is god, you do not question what s/he teaches. zod000: benDos: memorizing spec is easy mode, sign me up mcchunkie: (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ zod000: jk btw lteo: that has hopefully changed now kyl: lteo: bro blackfriday zod000: lteo: they changed it to "lteo is god, you do not question his trolls" benDos: lteo, that's how it was at RIT kyl: https://github.com/russross/blackfriday/ benDos: They tried to fire me when I asked one of profs about something she told us to look into
kyl, that looks sweet zod000: benDos: did you ask him "what does god need wit ha starship?" lteo: kyl: nice kyl: lteo: i'm using it in a wiki project brah zod000: sorry, i was reading about star trek earlier benDos: Hah kyl: it' pretty nice benDos: No i got hired as a summer researcher at a rochester institute of tech, big research uni in ny
One of the profs had us look at a particular type of encryption
I mentioned another paper i had read that claimed what she was putting forward to be mostly broken
Instead of finding a paper to show me or using maths
she went to my boss and suggested he fire me zod000: interesting take on the ad hominem lteo: how dare you question her choice of hybrid Caesar/XOR/ROT13 encryption! kyl: passed through a custom vigenere AmberJ_: heh benDos: It was about using encrypted data in cloud calculation dbtid: lteo: ROT26 kyl: ROT52 benDos: Noobs zod000: dbtid: ROT26 is doubly effective, and so light on the cpu benDos: 26 and 52 aren't powers of two kyl: nope
which will throw them off zod000: what criminal mind could break this? NONE kyl: ROT67108864
^ there's your fucking power of two, benDos dbtid: zod000: EXACTLY! high preformance and unbreakable, since no one would ever believe someone would use it! kyl: >.> lteo: stupid computer not knowing that i meant to press OK instead of Cancle benDos: Let iptables do your encryption, XOR target. lteo: i only use USDA Prime numbers for my RSA algorithm. kyl: benDos: are you not letting iptables do your encryption? benDos: Ohh yay zod000: lteo: tasty and secure kyl: lteo: bro which is why i use 0xDEADBEEF for my IVs piroko: I swear we do more nerf wars than work here kyl: piroko: what is it you would say that you do there? piroko: lol zod000: kyl: I assumed he mean using a prime number of ounces for a steak -: zod000 wants a 19oz filet kyl: i'm not going to lie lteo: so i'll just sit down kyl: i would take an 18oz filet zod000: kyl: prepare to have your steak compromised kyl: i'll compromise your steak, if you know what i mean benDos: Ok i'm going home
bbiab gaiz ***: benDos has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) piroko: Ke$ha has such great lyrics kusuriya: .addtroll Ke$ha has such great lyrics lazylopez_: Ke$ha has such great lyrics: was added kusuriya: .troll lazylopez_: v8 is probably the 3rd slowest thing i have ever seen jrick: .troll lazylopez_: I love working on my tax return! jrick: .troll lazylopez_: Using .docx to save source files will allow you to colour hilight your syntax. jrick: lol piroko: hahahahahahaha
That one is awesome ***: benDossBot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) kyl: .troll | s/^/jrick: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ lazylopez_: jrick: star wars is meh -- brycec brycec: /kick kyl: .troll | s/^/jrick: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ lazylopez_: jrick: qbit, are you sure you still don't want the 2GB HD ~2 minutes long porn video? :P -- brycec kusuriya: .troll | s/^/kyl says: / lazylopez_: kyl says: holding out for when the iPhone supports Java. brycec: damnit that was annoying jrick: .troll | s/^/brycec: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ lazylopez_: brycec: "if only bing has google mode, where you can search on bing to get your rewards but it gives you google results" -- brycec brycec: 1pm is a *terrible* time for an ISP to reboot my modem kusuriya: .troll | s/^/kyl says: / lazylopez_: kyl says: i wish somebody would write a decent window manager for linux piroko: hahaha
This channel is pure gold
I'm glad I just found it
Someone query when I joined. I can't remember the command kusuriya: .troll | s/^/piroko says: / lazylopez_: piroko says: javascript has been a joke since its inception, never taken seriously or cared about. Barely tolerated by most experienced programmers brycec: piroko: my logs first show you Oct 6, 2010 mcchunkie: (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ piroko: Huh. That's totally something I'd say kusuriya: .troll | s/^/kusuriya says: / lazylopez_: kusuriya says: Increase your size day by day piroko: brycec: Wow. Longest I've ever stayed in a channel kusuriya: @kusuriya BryceBot: Jul 06, 2012 14:23:57 <kusuriya> brycec: ive made a few drones, I have a small scale drone that i can shoot spitballs from ***: ckrailo has joined #devious
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ChanServ sets mode: +v benDossBot trafficone: potato | s/(.)/1./ | s/.$// lazylopez_: potato trafficone: that's cool lazylopez_
I'mma get some pizza brycec: nice.
very nice. benDos: kusuriya, sorry were you in renton? lteo: s/en/ec/ | s/on/um/ lazylopez_: kusuriya, sorry were you in rectum? ***: xpt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) kusuriya: benDos: i am
well will be brycec: kusuriya: ooh so you got the place? kusuriya: brycec: nah still thinking positive thoughts
ill know today hopefully
but they havent put the property on the market so benDos: Hmm ***: xpt has joined #devious benDos: Oh a bunch of park and rides in renton neat kusuriya: tons
Renton is a large commuter area
youll either commute to renton to work at boeing
or commute from renton to seattle or redmond benDos: Oh mang
no light link rail in renton :/ kusuriya: no
light rail goes from the airport to downtowm
only
commuter rail goes from tacoma to everett benDos: I thought you said there was some train i could take from renton to downtown? kusuriya: no that was everett benDos: Oh
Oohkay :/
So i'd be busing it from renton? kusuriya: yep
or bussing to light rail
and going in benDos: Bus to light rail or just bus seems ok i guess
Not nearly as cool as taking a train from everett to like 75 ft from my office though kusuriya: yeah it gets a bit crowded on the buses
but the bus stops like right infront of your office so brycec: Plus trains are cool kusuriya: well the regular commuter train comes with internets IIRC benDos: The bus and light link are right there
i think sound transit either is right there
or right up the street kusuriya: the sounder is up at the end of the block qbit: o/
p/ benDos: i don't know if kings street station == international district station kusuriya: benDos: it is benDos: Yeah see that seemed neat ***: ninjapants has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) benDos: How does renton fair on rent kusuriya: when you come up out of the tunnel for the station to the left is the stadium to the right is international district benDos: I haven't looked into renton too much yet been busy
sweet kusuriya: benDos: 1075 sqft house 3 bd 1395/month mcchunkie: New sets for loongson!
New sets for i386!
New sets for amd64! qbit: WHOA kusuriya: 750sqft apt with 1bd and office was 850 benDos: Hmm not too shabby
Ok that sounds sweet
To start with anyone
Once i get a feel for my actual expenses i think a nicer apt will be in order but to start as i said i'm underbudgeting like crazy
with anyway* ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) brycec: It's fun to have a semi- widely-used application on Pushover :)
My own personal "applications" only get a few pushes in a month, but hey now I get to see the pretty graphs benDos: pushover? brycec: pushover.net benDos: checking it out now
so it's like
twitter? brycec: no no benDos: </troll> :p
I gotcha ***: AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) piroko: DURR I'M CINCINNATI BELL I'LL BE AT YOUR HOUSE BETWEEN 8 AND 12 TODAY brycec: unless you use Twitter like Pushover (which I do actually) piroko: LOL OOPS IT'S 2 O'CLOCK brycec: piroko: and were they?
ha benDos: PIROKO
DID YOU TRY JIGGLING THE CABLES? kyl: LOUD NOISES piroko: WHAT? YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CAT TO THE VET? WHY DIDN'T YOU LEAVE YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING DAY WIDE OPEN?
Oh sorry
Caps lock key got stuck benDos: More like pirokoangrymode got stuck. kyl: DOESN'T MATTER, WE DON'T NEED LOWERCASE WHERE WE'RE GOING brycec: WOOHOO
WE CAN SAVE BITS IF WE DON'T BOTHER WITH CASE qbit: OH
kyl: kyl: WECANSAVEBITSIFWEDONTBOTHERWITHSPACES qbit: oh! benDos: IRC IS FASTER THAN NODEJS NOW LOLOLOLZ qbit: ha
kyl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmd8MpJjQJw
OH BryceBot: YouTube People: "Heymoonshaker - Ten letter word" by officialdavecrowe (1m 42s), 1,411 views, 26 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-07-21T00:38:05.000Z. kyl: qbit: bro WAT qbit: BRO THAT
PLAYITLOUD benDos: kyl, that youtube link
The ten letter word thing brycec: BRORGY benDos: I imagine that's what he was talking about anyway -: qbit gets his BROFIST kyl: DAFUQISTHISSHIT -: benDos gets his BROGAT benDos: Spoiler a BROGAT is just a glock i clean with axe. qbit: til benDos uses axe body spray.. and calls it "gat" benDos: I think your reading comprehension is a bit shoddy today brycec: s/ddy/t/ lazylopez_: I think your reading comprehension is a bit shot today benDos: Both work? brycec: Yes kyl: GUYS
WHYAREYOUBACKTOLCASE brycec: BECAUSERAPE qbit: roughro
someone is gonan get butt probbed
heymoonshaker's other music saddens me
because it isn't as awesome as that song dbtid: qbit: you getting butt probed? i thought you liked girls... benDos: TIL pltgames.com is super fucking awesome dbtid: does your fiance know??? benDos: monthly programming language game brycec: dbtid: who said it wasn't his girl doing the probing? qbit: ^
nbdjs dbtid: brycec: i suppose not. silly me. brycec: shame on you, jumping to conclusions... dbtid: well, at least it's not the only exercise i get... brycec: zing! qbit: http://boingboing.net/2012/12/04/tallest-possible-lego-tower-he.html <--- best use of math today
s/today/todate/ lazylopez_: http://boingboing.net/2012/12/04/tallest-possible-lego-tower-he.html <--- best use of math todate benDos: hah kusuriya: hmm should i get a lack rack or just buy a real rack lteo: buy a real lack rack kusuriya: pft trafficone: I haven't seen real racks in 2' heights
so, AFAICT, it's either Lack hack or hack something else brycec: lack rack ftw
you can always stack lack racks kusuriya: ^ brycec: I love lack racks... trafficone: get slack, stack-lack-rack hack in your crack shack brycec: Of course, be careful when racking heavy things, be sure you've braced the legs adequately kusuriya: well morsi is out now XD trafficone: oh baby brycec: but it's still super-cheap and easy, and stylish kusuriya: http://youtu.be/rsBJ7gPoRmw BryceBot: YouTube News: "Morsi flees as angry crowd storms palace in Cairo, battles riot police" by RussiaToday (5m 43s), 302 views, 89 likes and 5 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-12-04T20:00:33.000Z. kusuriya: they stormed his place
guess his strong arming trying to force egypt to be like the rest of the muslim states didnt sit well with people trafficone: sure he didn't just have a crazy party and forgot to set his privacy settings? kusuriya: trafficone: he tried to set his privacy settings thats the issue
he set them to ultra high then started trying to write the egyptian constitution trafficone: well put kusuriya: the people simply said "look fucker we want freedom of everything and not another dictator" trafficone: so, reading comments on cnn.com makes me weep for America ***: bse__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) kusuriya: i cant weep any more for america
the picture of the lady eating a block of cheese was all i had trafficone: either thinking that Morsi is the same as Obama, or that Egyptian democracy works exactly like the US benDos: kusuriya, does http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/04/1938212/cops-to-congress-we-need-logs-of-americans-text-messages help? lteo: trafficone: lol kusuriya: benDos: nope i already knew that trafficone: kusuriya: you've literally run out of fucks to give kusuriya: trafficone: yeah now is the time for action
im all out of fucks to give for complaining about it ***: _kapu_ has left kusuriya: im working with my GF to teach her how to use an encrypted SMS app i have benDos: pidgin-otr is super super easy kusuriya: yeah but pidgin OTR doesnt work on the phone or on the go benDos: I use that with my gf sometimes
I guess ***: bse__ has joined #devious kusuriya: but yeah encrypt all the things
you want to try to piss in my cherrios gubmint ill just make it harder :) trafficone: I don't understand why anyone doing anything illegal wouldn't already be using encrypted sms messages
or at least anonymous phones for their illegal activities benDos: trafficone, if you know enough to use encrypted messages
you probably can swing a living doing something that won't land you in jail lteo: this is how my encrypted text message looks like: y0 d00d w3 d0!ng s0m3th!n6 i113g4L y0 benDos: s/$/obama 911 flu lazylopez_: this is how my encrypted text message looks like: y0 d00d w3 d0!ng s0m3th!n6 i113g4L y0obama 911 flu trafficone: seriously, search TWITTER for <area code> <drug> HMU
it's depressing kusuriya: ^ qbit: so much bad music benDos: trafficone, i'm gonna go check now :p; qbit: what is HMU?
how much? benDos: hit me up trafficone: qbit: hit me up qbit: haha
nice
i like the notacop twitter profile
https://twitter.com/notapoliceman trafficone: if you're willing to search facebook, it's all over there too kusuriya: as well as pictures of peoples drug scores
people as a whole are dumb qbit: credit cards benDos: Dude trafficone you were serious trafficone: benDos: :-( sad story, bro benDos: i mean the zip code didn't work but #somearea weed hmu
seems to hit all the time brycec: eg https://twitter.com/Noah480/status/275065442874318849 BryceBot: TWITTER: Anyone need bud hmu tonight its 25 a g but its the best weed in az and ill hook up!! Just hmu on twitter or text me 480-430-9775 (Sun Dec 02 02:34:46 +0000 2012) brycec: zip codes are kinda small, hence ppl use area codes instead benDos: heh
i'll try that
no go
lol kusuriya: benDos: HMU is code word for IAMA COP benDos: Lol
Cops on the internet trafficone: it happens benDos: When they try to pick up some kid to diddle and it turns out to be another cop
Then whoever says "GOTCHA" first
they get to make the arrest kyl: https://twitter.com/notpolice/status/275360375879397376 hahahahaha BryceBot: TWITTER: I have all these empty tobacco blankets but no marijuanas to roll in them :( can someone please help me out?? (Sun Dec 02 22:06:44 +0000 2012, retweeted 221 times) trafficone: and it's safe to assume that everyone offering drugs/hookup info on the Internet is a cop kusuriya: yep benDos: On one hand I agree
On the other, i don't try to find drugs or hookups on twitter
so i'm good trafficone: well, yeah, that's because of the safe assumption
like, it's probably a mix of cops/dumbasses
but someone involved in that wouldn't want to get mixed up with either kyl: man
i start looking through twitter
especially the @needadebitcard people lteo: and was amazed at the quality of the tweets kyl: and it's like, fuckkk, these are real people sharvey: hahahahaa benDos: I assume about 1/3rd of what i read online is written by some poor inmate in a chinese jail sharvey: I assume some small portion of what I read online is by a poor phd student who's lost all hope benDos: phdcomics? qbit: ha sharvey: (#csc has a resident phd student who is a huge troll) kyl: any time anyone wants to debate the question of whether we share a common ancestry with monkeys brycec: sharvey: is it YOU? kyl: i just point out the internet trafficone: s/ a / several / lazylopez_: i just point out the internet sharvey: brycec: no benDos: #csc has some lols sharvey: brycec: but, people have accused me of being this other person benDos: used to idle in there brycec: lol sharvey: benDos: I am now on csc syscom trafficone: bryce just accused you right now sharvey: and was csc sysadmin last term
kyl: hahahaha kyl: syscom == system commander? trafficone: maybe it's your secret other identity that even you don't know about? sharvey: kyl: systems committee kyl: trafficone: MPD benDos: Ohh trafficone: do you get nasty messages from yourself? kyl: holy shit
canada is being all communist benDos: system commander is way cooler kyl: what with committees and bulshit sharvey: hahaha kyl: *bullshit benDos: Bro lteo: kyl: syskom? benDos: We have committees to. kyl: (my officemate is french canadian) sharvey: we have n systems
psh
french canadians don't count brycec: oh you poor thing kyl sharvey: they're a separate species benDos: Yeah fuck those guys! kyl: sharvey: DON'T TRY TO SWAY ME WITH YOUR CANADIA^wCOMMERNIST LIES
sharvey: i'm just gonna lump you in lteo: sharvey: if they don't count, how do they do math? kyl: ^ sharvey: lteo: I see what you did there kyl: but do you benDos: lteo, you are none stop with the pun train
for like
a week
Stop watching so much sienfeld. sharvey: are you trying to revoke his pun card lteo: benDos: dude i've always been on the pun train benDos: Maybe i just started paying attention?
Idk sharvey: benDos: you're just a hater benDos: False kyl: true trafficone: error kyl: benDos is a professional hater benDos: NILOLOLOL kyl: of everything and everyone sharvey: hahaha kyl: trafficone: ENOLOVE ? sharvey: we had ENOBEER earlier
on saturday
it was catastrophic kyl: yeah
actually i do believe that's an EMERG in syslog
benDos: I'm sorry, I was wrong mcchunkie: New sets for macppc! benDos: kyl, are you still mad that i dynamicly link things sometimes?
dynamically even kusuriya: ECLOBBER kyl: no, i just realised you don't hate *everything* benDos: ~java? -: lteo bracs.. kyl: i forgot how much you love calc2 benDos: Every thing such that thing != calc2
that's true sharvey: calc2 isn't hard lteo: benDos: ^ kyl: tell that to benDos lteo: benDos: finally! someone who can help! dbtid: SIX MORE WORK DAYS! benDos: heh -: benDos does calc2 as the level of a four year old and graph traversal like a chinese lteo: apply graph theory to solve calc2 - problem solved benDos: Bro
Neural network to solve integrals
done and done
Neural networks as you know work for prettty much everything
And are the optimal solution for approximately nothing trafficone: sounds like a brain to me benDos: neural networks vary in the biological fidelity
I've written some with a neuroscientist so the software models brain activity
and others use similar concepts with no regard for how closely the model matches a brain
ugh i'm gonna miss doing research projects :/ kusuriya: haha my favorite gun ban argument of all time benDos: yesh? kusuriya: "Well you see if we eleminate the demand the supply will and blackmarket will dwindle" benDos: That's true dbtid: yeah, because only brand new guns are sold on the black market. benDos: I mean false premise and shit kusuriya: yeah tell me how well that has worked to stop prostitution dbtid: so yeah, that would dry it up. benDos: but that statement taken as it's own is true brycec: eliminate... the demand... for gun, power, etc? LMFAO
*its benDos kusuriya: benDos: no where has that statement ever been true :P
prohibition, prostitution, drugs benDos: Wut
Are we talking about the same quote lteo: my powerful gun has eliminated its supply due to huge demand kusuriya: yes benDos: If you eliminate demand, markets shrink
fact of economics kusuriya: so if we take colaries that have blackmarkets where we already have outlawed and "eleminated" the demand benDos: That said lteo: eleminate everything benDos: Demand for drugs, guns, paying for sex, has never been addressed in law kusuriya: the black markets for them thrive benDos: Aside from putting people in jail if you get caught
That's why i said
it's true but a false premise kusuriya: benDos: um yes it has for sex in some states
for sex anyway benDos: hm?
People in Nevada all drive to henderson to get their knob slobbed?
No. kusuriya: in Kansas City Kansas it is illegal to be caught trying to solicit sex benDos: Right
as in most places
curbs demand
no eliminated kusuriya: so if you are the john its outlawed
it doesnt really curb demand
the black market for it is still strong as ever benDos: This argument is going no where
We both agree
And both are not going to bother to find facts to support out side kyl: and now for our daily drugs / guns / political argument benDos: Too late kyl
already quashed it
with muh logic skillz kyl: hahahahahahahaha kusuriya: benDos: not really but meh kyl: the same logic skills that lead you to DYNAMICALLY LINK THINGS
psh benDos: Hah sharvey: are we talking about sex? kyl: >.> lteo: what's this dynamically link things reference? benDos: lteo, kyl things dynamically linking libs will shrink his peep kyl: <-- doesn't like dynamic libs benDos: thinks* kyl: and bendos needs an attack ad hominem to support his argument trafficone: sharvey: not in Kansas City, we're not -: kyl shrugs sharvey: ok lteo: kyl: so all your binaries are statically linked? kyl: as much as i can benDos: kusuriya, so you are going to go find a source accurately reports demand for prostitutes is unrelated to legality/ kyl: on os x, that's not easy benDos: just not
kyl, isn't that sop on irc kusuriya: benDos: but all im saying is i love when people use that argument to espouse gun bans thinking its a magic bullet benDos: i agree
:p
that's why i said we agree and arguing further was silly
brb though trafficone: typically, states outlaw johns and pimps and basically assume that all prostitutes are slaves benDos: lteo, sta.li
http://sta.li rather
it's like totally not a troll distro according to kyl trafficone: instead of implementing industrial oversight, they force the market underground and put legit prostitutes in unnecessary harm kusuriya: ^ benDos: also puritan ideas about sex
that paying for sex is baaaaad kusuriya: trafficone: well its 50 50 right now
half the states outlaw johns half outlaw the hoes
all outlaw the pimps trafficone: I think that that's the main reason they don't regulate the system
'cause sex is ickypants mcchunkie: (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ kusuriya: some states belive by removing the supply you remove the demand, and by removing the demand you remove the supply
but if you go to an area where its legal and regulated there are very few problems like reno
reno sucks for a whole host of problems but the hookers are not one of them trafficone: well, it kind of double sucks, because if youuu are a ho and you need protecction, your only option is to go with a pimp dbtid: especially because there won't be any guns with which you could protect yourself. trafficone: well, you could always keep a derringer in your pooper, but... dbtid: but that's a gun
and guns are bad
no one should be able to own a gun
guns kill people! kyl: truth trafficone: so do pimps dbtid: like that football player who could ONLY have killed his gf with a gun! trafficone: if it comes to that kusuriya: trafficone: pimps like to break legs first as a warning kyl: dbtid: it's been scientifically proven trafficone: also large wads of meat kusuriya: indimidation goes a long way dbtid: he could NEVER have used a knife (outlaw those) or a baseball bat (ban those too) or a screwdriver (ban them!!!) lteo: or a frozen turkey kusuriya: dbtid: or just beat her do death dbtid: he could never have strangled her with his HUUUUUGE football player arms (BAN FOOTBALL!) kyl: he wouldn't have thought to use those because they are not overtly weapons dbtid: kusuriya: i was getting to that
kyl: oh, yeah. he played football so he was too stupid to think of those other things kyl: correct trafficone: well, football does cause brain damage kyl: plus, good citizens don't think of ordinary household items as weapons kusuriya: kyl: ifs funny you say that because boxers are usually required to register their hands as lethal weapons but most are too dumb to realize it :) dbtid: kyl: we could maybe figure out how to put all the bad citizens in one place, maybe? keep them there away from all the good citizens?
kyl: what do you think? kyl: dbtid: like a summer camp trafficone: how does one register something as a lethal weapon? kyl: that lasts all year? dbtid: kyl: exactly kusuriya: trafficone: just like you register a gun kyl: i bet they'll find high levels of marijuhana
in his blood dbtid: i bet they find high levels of twinkies in his blood kusuriya: id like to register my cock as a leathal weapon benDos: QBIT http://youtu.be/mFDiiSqGB7M !!!!! dbtid: he was rich so he probably bought out all of them from the store before any of the poor people could BryceBot: YouTube Education: "Community Ecology II: Predators - Crash Course Ecology #5" by crashcourse (10m 23s), 302 views, 98 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-12-04T21:11:50.000Z. kyl: kusuriya: because people die from laughing when you pull it out? benDos: twss mcchunkie: Added funny: "kusuriya: because people die from laughing when you pull it out?" kusuriya: kyl: exactly lteo: kyl: wrong.. it's so "leathal" that it kills on sight trafficone: "another girl's life, tragically cut short by a hilariously tiny penis... real shame"
"when will the littledicks learn?" qbit: benDos: o/ kyl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1XpoVkZSqU&playnext=1&list=PLEA160EADAD74C535&feature=results_video BryceBot: YouTube Comedy: "County Sheriff: Pilot - 1x1" by ryanthewebber (12m 9s), 267 views. Uploaded 2012-03-04T23:52:59.000Z. qbit: one of my fav predations .. is the wasp that makes ants go really really high on trees..
the other is the wasp that zombifies spiders kusuriya: lets see if devious can save my ass again with testing :D -: qbit hits file -> save kyl: :o kusuriya: hmm does devious let normal users check mailq
well looks like it kind of does
hey brycec verizon has devio.us blacklisted ***: Gallomimia has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)
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ChanServ sets mode: +v Gallomimia brycec: kusuriya: that's cool
(We've jumped through their hoops before. Unfortunately, apparently our members are idiots and still send spam) kusuriya: yeah doesnt suprise me
just combing through the mail queue
making sure my mail went out brycec: yeah I know where you saw it :P kusuriya: Microsoft's mail servers are not delivering external mail :D brycec: kusuriya: I'll PM you the maillog kusuriya: brycec: thanks kyl: jrick: qbit: itunes is actually usable under os x qbit: what's an os x? kyl: isn't slow and shitty
qbit: says the guy using windows 8 brah lteo: kyl: new or old itunes? kusuriya: kyl: thats not a surpise kyl: either kusuriya: if i had a mac id prolly use itunes TBQH kyl: itunes 9, 10, and 11 weren't bad
but the new interface seems to be anti-ipod
i can see jsut a giant list of songs on it
no column browser benDos: Is itune's ui still terrible for 13k+ songs? kyl: no benDos: It used to lag and chew on my cpu when scrolling kyl: i have more than that on my ipod benDos: I have a lot of flac
And a 30gb ipod
Soo I have way less than that on my ipod kyl: i convert flac->aac for the mac
and i don't have that much lossless benDos: I haven't felt like converting all my flacs to mp3 for the ipod tbh
All (+/-) of my music is rips
bandcamp also lets you buy flac ++ kyl: when i rip music, i do it on teh mac benDos: I may have mentioned before, I only have linux desktops/laptops
And one desktop windows 7 refuses to run on, but apparently i need to try again and zero the entire disk
Cause windows 7 cares that the disk it is installed onto may have some weird bits in unallocated space :/ qbit: bandcamp benDos: yesh? trafficone: will AWS kill a process on your server if it takes up too much processing power? I was under the impression it just didn't have very many cycles to give benDos: They are awesome qbit: i need a way to put music on my spankinnewfreeipod benDos: I <3<3<3 bandcamp qbit: without itunes
because stabieeff itunesz ***: lwhalen has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) benDos: qbit, rockbox and it's normal usb drive access qbit: nosir benDos: Yessir qbit: it's the ipod touch nano brycec: trafficone: I've never seen that happen, and I don't think they have the ability to kill a process. However, I've seen OOM-killer many a time. benDos: Oh. qbit: which isn't rockboxsupported benDos: Can you put netbsd on it? brycec: trafficone: (see dmesg for logs of "oh god I'm out of memory, KILL KILL KILL") -: qbit installs clementine kyl: install banshee
or whatever ubuntu's default player is benDos: isn't that Qt dependent? -: kyl shrugs qbit: is -: kusuriya installs banshee kusuriya: because fuck you all you mono haters qbit: <3 mono now
that keepass works on openbsd benDos: Tbh http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/
Rhythmbox is lovely tbh qbit: tbhtbh
srstbh
ehhem -: qbit makes more coffee benDos: I only stopped using it when it did funny things on remote storage that vlc happily buffers like a good program mcchunkie: New sets for amd64!
New sets for i386! benDos: mcchunkie: toogle e qbit: aw benDos: Goosebumps. qbit: best.. book series... ever brycec: @lod BryceBot: ಠ_ಠ kusuriya: @tableflip BryceBot: (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ mcchunkie: ┬──┬ ¯_(ツ) brycec: wow mcchunkie, a bit slow there... kusuriya: because FUCK THIS SHIT brycec: (4 seconds on my end) kyl: is rhythmbox that one that comes with ubuntu? qbit: brycec: she waits for a random amount of time kyl: because whatever taht one is sucks pretty bad brycec: qbit: oh that's new, nice, much better. kusuriya: tonight dovecot+postfix to my server :D benDos: kyl, i don't think so
i think you were right with banshee for that brycec: For everyone with a .edu email and Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace qbit: clementine is pnice kusuriya: i thought it was rythm box
because ubuntu was trying to remove the mono deps qbit: it is a fork of amarok before they went all 2.0 benDos: amarok was good for a while too kusuriya: banshee is awesome
you just have to deal with mono if youre not on windows
and GTK# qbit: whoa clementine has google drive / sound cloud integration kusuriya: which is a hot nightmare benDos: Mono and GTK? qbit: holy shit - and spotify benDos: That seems redundant? kusuriya: benDos: Mono does not come with a UI TK in !windows benDos: Or does mono just use gtk to emul? trafficone: holy shitbananas, all the packages I need to build are already built and in the repos benDos: ohh ok kusuriya: it integrates with GTK# qbit: oh man benDos: i thought it did tbh qbit: and grooveshark benDos: but i never use it
so yeah kusuriya: which emulates GDI and GDI+ for windows stuff benDos: they do everything else :p brycec: goddamn I'm now at 18.4GB of Dropbox space qbit: ha awesome
clementine can play spotify music! benDos: brycec why dropbox? brycec: because? qbit: this bitch is getting ported benDos: Some stuff you prefer not on devious or your other servers if you have any idk?
Idk I've had no need for dropbox since scp? -: benDos also has no smartphone that only has apps, instead of rpm or debs :/ brycec: benDos: I've had Dropbox for years... And there's no replacing its auto-sync between machines.
Dropbox isn't for everyone, but it has its uses. -: benDos shrugs benDos: Ok qbit: but no pandora kyl: ERBERNTER ERN brycec: qbit: no pithos? qbit: don't see it anywhere
or know what it is brycec: qbit: http://kevinmehall.net/p/pithos/
I think it's python+gtk benDos: kusuriya, trafficone i'll be able to find good greek food right? brycec: so it is https://github.com/kevinmehall/pithos kusuriya: benDos: not sure ive never looked for greek benDos: Huh, ok kusuriya: i hear there are some places downtown qbit: oh nice
jesus it does podcasts too benDos: vlc does podcasts bro
emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need.
I don't think emacs can play mkv's with 2d accel? kusuriya: .addtroll emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need. lazylopez_: emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need.: was added benDos: http://www.gnu.org/software/emms/...
Audio support : MP3, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC
Video support : MPEG, WMV, MOV, AVI, OGM, MKV, etc...
!!!!!
Wtf.
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ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn trafficone: benDos: if it's good gyros you want, Mr. Gyros is pretty good. If you want srs fancy greek, I can't speak past that. brycec: I want gyros now... trafficone: OH SHIT
WAIT
I REMEMBER THIS GREAT GREEK PLACE kusuriya: italian i get do
tulios is bitching benDos: Tbh i first wanted a gyro something bad kusuriya: but gyro never had em benDos: but then i remembered all the stuff i used to get at small greek place i used to go to trafficone: there's Pete's Eggnest, which is really good for greek + breakfast grub benDos: and had to point to the menu :/
sweet kyl: how about some spanakopita trafficone: and there's also Taki's Mad Greek benDos: Guys
Guy kusuriya: piroshki is an awesome food though benDos: Don't drop it ok
emacs is a media player
seriously kyl: i know benDos: Fuck man. kyl: and irc client
and email kusuriya: benDos: EMACS is an OS trafficone: kusuriya: true dat, I had some piroshky today benDos: See I knew emacs was an os trafficone: emacs is a game engine benDos: But an os that ships with more features than windows? kyl: emacs is not an os kusuriya: emacs is also a webbrowser kyl: emacs is a virtual machine for lisp benDos: not clisp?
or guile? kyl: ? kusuriya: im tempted to try emacs as an IRC client kyl: the fuck do any of those have to do with this?
kusuriya: erc ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) kyl: M-X erc benDos: i thought emacs used clisp
and was eventually maybe moving to guile
for the sake for rms kyl: ... -: benDos uses emacs 0s per year trafficone: @rms BryceBot: Richard Stallman says: Restricting copying is not the only basis for business in software. It is the most common basis because it brings in the most money. If it were prohibited, or rejected by the customer, software business would move to other bases of organization which are now used less often. There are always numerous ways to... <it just rambles on> kyl: i use it fairly often trafficone: @log_search emacs BryceBot: 640 results found. Here's one at random: Feb 08, 2012 10:32:32 <brycec > Chunkhost -> [Peer1 -> tinet -> seabone] -> emacsdaddy trafficone: I wish I could tell python that it's running in a headless environment, so it doesn't get sad when it can't run graphics stuff kyl: trafficone: ? benDos: Can you tell it to ignore a certain class of errors and filter some output to /dev/null? trafficone: kyl: for example, this one module is testing matplotlib on a headless server ***: cmeiklejohn has joined #devious
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,3 benDos: trafficone, can you over right what lib it is looking for before it gets loaded and lie to it?
s/right/write lazylopez_: trafficone, can you over write what lib it is looking for before it gets loaded and lie to it? brycec: Python is well aware that it's headless...
Just a matter of some modules that don't care and try and do crap (like matplotlib, I guess) benDos: Right, so python lets you do loooots of introspection trafficone: ^ benDos: when it loads that library
go in there muck around with some shit and lie to it trafficone: haha kyl: that is one nice thing about python
ipython is the most compelling reason to use python trafficone: at least it doesn't test on load, so it'll just work benDos: you could even trace or trap the class load to filter out stuff i imagine
DID YOU FILE A BUG REPORT? kyl: python won't, however, let you monkey patch builtins mcchunkie: I am a respectable lady! I will not take this lying down! benDos: rewriting your lexer and parser on the fly for an interrupted languages seems pretty painful
even for python to force on it's implementations
ruby probably lets you do stuff like that lazylopez_: Ruby syntax looks like someone pulled off all the symbols from their keyboard, inserted them into a shotgun and shot them into a $20 hooker that had been dead for 3 days.. brycec: *its qbit: https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/
whoa trafficone: benDos: IDK who I'd even file the bug report with, there are so many modules used by this module it's just silly
once it says "requires numpy and scipy" I assume that it's maintained by a league of wizards BryceBot: YER A WIZARD trafficone trafficone: BryceBot: not so loud, do you want Voldermort to hear? benDos: hah ***: Gallomimia has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) mcchunkie: New packages for loongson! ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
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i don't even know how that happened
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ChanServ sets mode: +v Gallomimia benDos: Are ecommerce sites required to track how many people open up the page with their linked terms and conditions you have to agree to? ***: zentrification has joined #devious benDos: Soo -: zenmower is taking his bosses job zenmower: boss is leaving -: zenmower should get more money qbit: nice o/
upgradecomplete benDos: Oh congrats zenmower: yeah now i have to find somebody to do my job ***: cmeiklejohn has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn AmberJ__: zenmower: Hire me! kthxbye! :P
Congrats zenmower AmberJ_: Quick question: nginx OR lighttpd?
My requirements: as lightweight as possible. I need to host only few static html files! zenmower: nginx AmberJ_: Ok thanks! ***: sjoos_ has joined #devious zenmower: probably you should do lighthttpd
i just no nginx
so i would use it kyl: AmberJ_: srvwd :o zenmower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWl5peI8HY BryceBot: YouTube Music: "Hayseed Dixie - Bohemian Rhapsody video (Official)" by johannespud (3m 41s), 1,239,115 views, 5,654 likes and 170 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-21T16:14:38.000Z. ***: sjoos_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
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sjoos__ has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) zenmower: use kyl's go server brycec: lol, required by whom exactly? Did the Internet suddenly gain a law enforcement entity? 19:24:10 <+benDos> Are ecommerce sites required to track how many people open up the page with their linked terms and conditions you have to agree to?
Also nginx is now in base OpenBSD, so +1 for nginx
Then again, I <3 lighttpd -: brycec has a new chair, woo
zenmower has a new jerb zenmower: woo
i want to get a house i can shoot out of the back door
a lot qbit: thttpd++ brycec: congrats, btw, zenmower zenmower: thanks
i didn't really do anything
boss decided to move on
kind of sucks i am the only dev
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cachopo has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) sharvey: trafficone: do the twins get on here at all? kyl: the twins
sounds ominous sharvey: yes
one is evil
one is good
though neither of them have goatees... kyl: of course not
that's passé
and unacceptable for undercover evil twins brycec: They've both tried mustaches... didn'g look good
sharvey: On average, once every 2 years or so :P
sharvey: In fact I barely ever hear or see either of them :/
For being such tech-y people, they're oddly uncommunicative - no facebook, no G+, no IRC...
Oh and they never seem to have their phone
"Why don't you guys include us more." Well we do, we text and call you, but you don't answer :P
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