[00:39] *** cook__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [00:44] *** cook has joined #devious [00:44] *** cook has quit IRC (Changing host) [00:44] *** cook has joined #devious [00:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v cook [00:51] *** cook has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [00:53] *** cook has joined #devious [00:53] *** cook has quit IRC (Changing host) [00:53] *** cook has joined #devious [00:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v cook [01:04] *** cook has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:15] *** tydeas has joined #devious [01:23] *** lwhalen_ has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep) [02:25] *** perlite has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [02:25] *** perlite_ has joined #devious [02:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v perlite_ [02:25] *** perlite_ is now known as perlite [02:44] *** cook has joined #devious [02:44] *** cook has quit IRC (Changing host) [02:44] *** cook has joined #devious [02:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v cook [02:49] *** zaim has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [03:43] ohai guys [03:44] hai dxtr [03:45] What's up? [04:12] sorry, going through nagios logs [04:12] not sure why i didnt see these in the middle of the night [04:33] New packages for i386! [04:53] Hmm [04:56] So.. I'm trying tinc [04:56] And it's friggin awesome [05:03] *** benDos has joined #devious [05:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v benDos [05:03] ai [05:03] Hai* [05:15] Fuck yea [05:15] I can access my work computer from home seamlessly. And the opposite [05:15] ssh? [05:16] woo [05:16] benDos: tinc [05:17] I said seamlessly. Like I can ping it from my computers at home without having to worry about sshing, opening openvpn or anything [05:17] Neat :) [05:18] tinc was easy as fuck to set up [05:20] looks interesting [05:20] too bad i have to use windows at work [05:21] Haha [05:21] :( [05:21] At my job the boss was like "Do you HAVE to use Windows!?" and I was like "I never said I wanted to use Windows in the first place" [05:21] "Awesome! Then we won't have to buy that for you" [05:22] instead they overspent on a mac :P [05:23] Nah [05:23] There were like "Go buy a computer!" [05:23] So I picked up some stuff and built it [05:23] And I'm running Linux [05:24] did you buy yourself a cray? [05:25] lenovo needs a 14" notebook with a quad core processor [05:25] :( [05:25] benDos: Cray? [05:25] dxtr: the origonal multi core processor super computer [05:25] cray.com [05:25] @wiki cray computer [05:25] Cray :: Cray Inc. is an American supercomputer manufacturer based in Seattle, Washington. The company's predecessor, Cray Research, Inc. (CRI), was founded in 1972 by computer designer Seymour Cray. Seymour Cray went on to form the spin-off Cray Computer Corporation (CCC), in 1989, which went bankrupt in 1995, while Cray Research was bought by SGI the next year. Cray Inc. was formed in... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray [05:25] Oh, right [05:25] They're based in Seattle! [05:26] They should hire me. [05:26] benDos: i know id love to work at cray [05:26] Or EMC [05:26] but EMC Consulting keeps jerking me around [05:26] fap fap [05:26] not the good kind of jerk [05:27] kusuriya, Cray has an IT anaylist pos open in seattle [05:27] benDos: hmm [05:27] i try to avoid anaylist positions though [05:27] that usually means helpdesk [05:27] It is helpdesk [05:28] only pos on their site in seattle [05:28] yeah [05:29] its help desk [05:29] im cool :) [05:29] HellDesk usually sucks and doesnt pay well [05:30] Hah yeeeaaahh [05:30] But maybe you'd be working closer to me [05:30] And we can become dim sum buddies. [05:31] meh im sure i could find better opprotunities downtown :) [05:32] what i need to do is put my personal company down on my resume and cram all my linux stuff in there so I have linux admin experience and can go to admin linux systems [05:33] Sounds good [05:33] but i always get warey of doing that because then they are like "orly you did all this yourself" [05:33] New packages for macppc! [05:34] kusuriya, i try to encourage them to ask me about stuff [05:34] *** lwhalen_ has joined #devious [05:34] in interviews i do best when they are just asking me about problems or things i've done [05:35] I just masturbate [05:35] I try not to honestly because I am a very poor interview i cant really explain my self well [05:36] Awe :/ [05:37] yeah I just need more prof experience honestly with linux [05:40] Well dovecot is super sexy [05:40] I'd be ok admining dovecot more [05:41] yeah i just cant find any dovecot admin positions :P [05:41] Hehe yeeeah [05:41] postfix evim sendmail? [05:41] exim* [05:41] id be willing to write sendmail.CFs all day long to do linux mail admining honestly [05:41] Heh :) [05:41] I'm not too familiar with sendmail, just postfix really [05:42] <3 postdix [05:42] s/d/f/ [05:42] <3 postfix [05:42] i know enough about sendmail.cf to know it sucks ass [05:42] but id be willing to deal with it [05:43] I don't know remember what that is [05:43] main sendmial config right [05:43] ? [05:43] yep [05:44] its very nasty and picky too [05:44] Noooo [05:45] I finish my coffee, and don't have cash to get more [05:45] Now i need to wait till i get to work for free coffee :< [05:46] What's the opposite of "-eq" in shell scripting [05:46] ? [05:46] -neq? [05:47] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/comparison-ops.html [05:47] -ne [05:47] oh right [05:47] thats what i think ill do [05:48] after i rebuild my savings here in january ill go get my RHCE [05:48] Is a RHCE really worth the grand+ for all the certs? [05:48] as an admin it is [05:48] redhat/centOS is really heavily used [05:49] I've done a bunch of the pretests they were super easy mode but sometimes you want you to X, which has multiple ways to do it [05:49] i also have been meaning to get my LPI certs [05:49] and they only ask for one, if you know others 0 points [05:49] meh [05:49] So like "make sure no one can write to a file"" [05:49] At least 3 ways to do it [05:49] why not beable to say im a RHCE :) [05:49] They only accept one [05:49] yeah [05:50] its not an awesome test by any strech of the imagination but the beancounters eat it up [05:50] Hmm [05:50] yeah if youre going to cross over certs go a long way [05:51] like i would have got the 75k i was asking for if i had one of my exchange certs [05:51] would have got 80k if i had both [05:51] I have pretty low interest in moving to sysadmin'ing tbh [05:51] Geez [05:51] jrick: did you figure it out? [05:52] if i had both and my Microsoft Certified Expert id be in the low 200k's [05:52] that'd be baller [05:52] but the MCE is really hard to get [05:52] It really seems like i ought to be making more than i'll be making after a year or two [05:52] for seattle anyway [05:53] you have to get your lower certs (there are 4 of them) then have 6 years int he industry [05:53] jebus [05:53] and have written 3 case studies [05:53] hah oh microsoft [05:53] and then you must submit a case study for review by the exchange team [05:53] why would anyone do an IT undergrad instead of some cert like that [05:53] and you wait to be invited to the test [05:53] MCE is invite only at the very end [05:54] Mooooaaarrrr coffffeeee [05:54] benDos: its kidna like getting your PHD [05:55] you have to do a lot of work for it [06:07] halla [06:07] *** AmberJ_ has joined #devious [06:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v AmberJ_ [06:07] yay coffee! [06:07] * qbit makes some [06:07] Hay [06:07] Yeah i'm about to go grab some from work then go to the library to do some math hw! [06:07] hi qbit [06:07] awwee yeeaah [06:08] sup dbtid o/ [06:08] dbtid, i wonder if jrick divided by zero... [06:08] ha [06:10] not much [06:10] you? [06:10] coffeemakin [06:11] qbit, you roasting some beats now? [06:11] cast iron pan on an open fire? [06:11] beans... [06:11] Drop beats sip'n beans yo. [06:12] me too shortly [06:12] benDos: haven't tried again yet [06:12] need to get a popcorn roaster [06:12] Heh :p [06:12] er [06:12] popper [06:12] Whatever i know what you meant [06:12] yeah that problem is still unsolved [06:12] wut. [06:13] My suggestion didn't work? [06:14] couldn't get it [06:14] me and my whole team (5 people total) spent forever working on it [06:14] Oohkay :/ [06:14] I'll play around with it again when i get to work in a few hours [06:14] I really thought that was how you did it.. [06:14] * benDos is pretty shit at math though [06:15] oh done with this class bbiab [06:15] *** benDos has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [06:18] jrick: have you looked into cases for the n4 yet ? [06:18] s/ yet // [06:18] jrick: have you looked into cases for the n4? [06:18] nope [06:18] don't need one [06:18] kew [06:19] i noticed a micro scratch on the screen.. totally paranoid now [06:21] front? that sucks [06:21] heh.. i cna't find it now [06:21] so meh [06:27] score got webshell running [06:31] 23ll [06:31] er [06:31] well [06:31] ^ should be its name :D [06:45] *** benDos has joined #devious [06:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v benDos [06:45] backish [06:45] *** benDossBot has joined #devious [06:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v benDossBot [06:45] jrick, I ran it by one of my more mathematically inclined friends [06:46] "abandon all hope, ye who enter here"? [06:46] The method i suggested works on a plane but with the actual positions of R, A, and C unknown off the top of their head they didn't know if it still worked [06:46] wb benDossBot [06:46] Thanks benDos [06:46] we know the positions of A B and C [06:46] and the distance between them [06:47] You told me you knew A B and C were on a line [06:47] and AB and BC were both distance D [06:47] so those are our beacons and our robot is somewhere one one side of that line, and we need to know where the robot is with respect to those beacons [06:47] Right ok [06:47] and we determine where to put the beacons [06:48] The beacons need to be on a line, and not surrounding R? [06:48] hm you said drawing a straight line down from R to line AB or BC (whichever) and making a right triangle? [06:48] Yup [06:49] they don't need to be on a line but that's what we thought would be the easiest to solve the problem [06:49] we can put those literally anywhere [06:49] Oh.. [06:49] I then believe putting them 120 degrees apart around the area would be easier [06:49] let me sketch that out [06:50] Way way easier imo [06:50] equilateral triangle ABC, within ABC in the point R [06:50] You have the angle ARB, BRC, AND CRA [06:51] i want to equilateralize your triangle at an angle in the point R, if you know what i mean [06:51] ok I see, now to try the math [06:52] lteo, you have a phd you should up in here solving jrick's problems [06:52] not mocking them [06:52] nono.. stick with mocking [06:52] s/k/ky [06:52] nono.. sticky with mockying [06:52] you have a phd.. time for others to suffer to get what you have [06:52] :p [06:53] a phd is a license to say silly stuff [06:53] ^ [06:53] * lteo say, "silly stuff" [06:53] benDos: a phd means i'm damaged beyond repair, so i'm useless now [06:54] Your adviser drained you of all intellectual capitol? [06:54] "I'll be needing you to put in at least like 75 hours this week, it's really important you finish my paper for me by like next thursday" - Every PhD Adviser Ever [06:55] pretty much yeah. you do all the hard work, they add their name at the end [06:55] also there's so much bullcrap being published that have no practical value [06:55] If you're lucky, they get bored of you and want a newer bigger titted candidate within 5 years so they give you the phd and kick your ass out [06:56] as long as they give you your phd before kicking your ass out, you're fine [06:57] I feel so bad for my friend getting his phd in germany [06:57] that's what she said! [06:57] mcchunkie: no [06:57] Sorry: "I feel so bad for my friend getting his phd in germany" [06:57] I mean i get that they pay him [06:57] But not like a real salary [06:57] oh dude yes that's the other thing [06:57] You are still treated like a student,except you teach classes ghostwrite papers and books for your advisor, for like over a decade [06:58] for years my income was barely above federal poverty line [06:58] lteo, but you totally get tax breaks for being a full time student [06:58] so after tax sometimes you're ever above the poverty line [06:58] even* [07:00] i dunno about that brah. [07:00] anyway meeting [07:04] So it's like 60F today [07:04] And i want to bbq something fierce [07:07] jrick, what's the word? [07:08] sorry I've been discussing some xombrero stuff with conformal peeps [07:08] but I don't know how arranging them this way help [07:08] s [07:09] hm [07:09] jrick, you have an angle from each A B and C to your R inside of triangle ABC [07:10] yes [07:10] You take lines from A B and C at the angle you get into the tringle [07:10] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #devious [07:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn [07:10] where they intersect is where your R is [07:13] We are still talking about this. lol [07:13] Math is hard bro [07:13] aw, where's the pun in that? [07:13] mcchunkie: no [07:13] Sorry: "Math is hard bro" [07:16] HEY GUYS [07:16] Hai? [07:16] Ke$ha's warrior album is up on spotify now. http://open.spotify.com/album/0gT5HL6RnvHBxJ2gY7lidR [07:16] You're welcome [07:17] ha [07:18] * benDos is listening to La Coka Nostra [07:18] You think I'm kidding, yet I'm rocking out to it for the 8th time this week right now [07:19] oh no - i belive you :P [07:19] haha good [07:19] Whatever this is some hardcore metal and hip hop. [07:19] And free coffee from work [07:19] good shit [07:19] * qbit has never had good free coffee [07:19] ^^ [07:19] Fucking snobs [07:19] It's free [07:19] Know what though [07:19] I am still in college [07:19] but i am a coffeeist [07:19] Maybe my taste buds for free things will mature after i graduate in a few months [07:19] ya.. being a coffeeist in college makes you a hipster [07:21] This is no idea what type of coffee with no name brand creamer [07:21] but the price is right [07:21] and it's hot and has caffeine [07:25] qbit, do you also <3 Ill Bill (rapper)? [07:27] deliciousness of food = quality of food / cost of food [07:27] s/d/d+0.00000000000000000001 [07:27] d+0.00000000000000000001eliciousness of food+0.00000000000000000001 = quality of food+0.00000000000000000001 / cost of food+0.00000000000000000001 [07:27] Oh. [07:27] I wanted d$ [07:28] Aaanyway [07:28] Ohh kusuriya orca card works on sound transit!!! =D [07:30] *** Gallomimia has joined #devious [07:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Gallomimia [07:32] qbit, http://youtu.be/Dicn1qsVKwU [07:32] YouTube Music: "La Coka Nostra - Cousin of Death [Director's Cut]" by LaCokaNostra (4m 51s), 550,616 views, 2,854 likes and 34 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-01T20:42:04.000Z. [07:32] *** lwhalen_ has quit IRC (Quit: Got Root?) [07:32] though some random actor in the video none of the dudes from LCN [07:35] .quit [07:35] *** tydeas has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) [07:35] *** evhan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [07:35] *** evhan has joined #devious [07:36] Man i should bring my studio headphones to work [07:36] These dinky little ear buds have a cruddy woofer [07:38] *** AmberJ__ has joined #devious [07:38] Holy shit guys, wolfram alpha does geometry too! [07:42] nice [07:42] * snk gets out his sysadmin shotgub [07:42] s/gub/gun [07:42] * lazylopez_ gets out his sysadmin shotgun [07:42] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [07:43] somone is trying to setup a hadoop cluster using our network storage as a backend [07:43] now I have to read enough about hadoop to tell them that it's a terrible idea [07:45] That doesn't sound totally insane? [07:49] Damn, Amazon Prime Student works only for students of USA universities :( [07:50] benDos: well, they want to put it on our AFS storage [07:50] which, is terribly slow for computational tasks [07:50] and has tons of ACLs that will most certainly not be happy with a hadoop master node trying to all the reads and writes [07:50] wew http://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/ [07:50] That top post is my wife [07:51] lol [07:52] She didn't say it [07:52] It was just on her feed [07:53] snk, doesn't afs do lots of local caching? [07:56] jesus [07:56] my university built a brain [07:56] and I mostly had no idea [07:56] sharvey, that IBM cat brain? [07:56] then they did an ama, which I also was not aware of [07:56] benDos: no, spaun [07:56] :D [07:56] even i knew about that! [07:56] Did not. [07:57] That was a /me * [07:57] benDos: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/147gqm/we_are_the_computational_neuroscientists_behind/ [07:57] I know *two* people on that team [07:57] two [07:57] lol [07:57] jesus christ I've been living under a rock [07:57] Heh sweet [07:57] neural nets are fun :) [07:58] svn <73 [07:58] benDos: "lots" of local caching is whatever the size of the local machine's /var/cache/openafs partition is [07:58] usually about 3GBs in our environment [07:58] the default afs config sets a 512MB cache [07:59] in any case [07:59] ours is designed for document/code storage [07:59] not storage for scalable computation [07:59] Heh [08:00] * benDos is overly cynical about anything hadoop related [08:00] fuckyeah AFS [08:00] LMAO 08:43:14 <+snk> somone is trying to setup a hadoop cluster using our network storage as a backend [08:01] snk: fwiw every Hadoop setup I've seen has used directly-attached storage, sometimes even RAID10. Keeps it fast, doesn't use network resources (which are already busy transporting the workload around), and did I mention it's fast? [08:02] Those are the bullet points you could pass along. "I don't know much about Hadoop, but..." [08:03] I AM NOT looking forward to having to use hadoop for work next year :/ [08:04] My favourite part is to say the name. hadOOP [08:04] IT's just so fucking java-y in the setup [08:05] but benDos <3 Java... [08:05] As a runtime sure [08:06] People shipping java code seem to distribute their project in the worst ways imaginable [08:06] Scumbag Waterloo... I blame sharvey for this. three names, FOUR PEOPLE http://imgur.com/TUo0x [08:07] unless "Terry Xuan" is actually "Terry" and "Xuan"... [08:07] brycec: so, is the locally attached storage local storage on ALL the nodes? [08:07] benDos: there's 4 names [08:07] that could be [08:07] terry and xuan [08:07] I know xuan and trevor [08:07] or is it only on the master node, and shared to the slave nodes? [08:07] snk: yes, every node gets a $cheapdrive or two [08:07] gotcha [08:07] i _though_ that was the point of hadoop [08:07] *thought [08:07] na [08:07] each node's workload gets pulled locally, molested, and given back to the master. [08:07] it's point is to make benDos rage [08:08] was 32345 cheap servers with cheap disks == hadoop cluster [08:08] moin [08:08] hai kyl [08:08] so that workload sits locally and the fast storage means it can store/fetch pieces of it quickly. Just imagine the congestion if all the nodes were slamming a SAN [08:09] lol sharvey [08:09] hello kyl [08:09] well this pic made it look like they were being held hostage :P http://imgur.com/mEMue (for ransom) [08:09] hahahahaha [08:09] I'll forward that to them [08:09] I see trevor on thursday, due to unrelated meeting [08:10] ha [08:10] Cool, I can try free 1 month trial of Amazon Prime! [08:10] now then, to start my heavy metal band... SLAM THE SAN [08:10] hahahaha [08:10] +for free [08:10] brycec: is it made of heavy metals? [08:11] * AmberJ_ is purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 [08:11] sharvey: heavy metals are an integral component, yes [08:11] Man.. [08:11] Since June I've transferred 2TB of data :/ [08:11] damn dxtr you be slackin' [08:11] Oh yeah [08:12] But I've also received around 2TB [08:12] I've downloaded 562,271MB of data since Dec 1. [08:13] Jebus. [08:13] Though to be fair, I'm not sure how... I'm just going by what pfSense tells me [08:13] I'm at like 10's of gigs / month :x [08:13] Ohhh [08:13] But seriously, I do pull hundreds of GB/mo [08:13] ^ [08:13] goddamn pirate [08:13] s [08:13] Yarrrr [08:15] * qbit checks hsi arp cactus [08:15] yearly 1 day average is 1.46 tb [08:16] Does anyone owns a Galaxy Note 10.1 here? [08:16] So seriously, at what point does someone who has never been academically dishonest just pay someone to take a class for them [08:16] Cause if I fail calculus again I do not foresee having the patience to fail it again [08:16] aww I have some catching up to do, I'm only at 17.81GB for the year with ARP (then again, I've only had an ARP since October) [08:17] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #devious [08:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn [08:19] brycec: Don't you guys have bandwidth caps over there? :P [08:19] dxtr: many residential ISP's do nowadays [08:19] Does Bryce? NOPE! :P [08:20] I keep reading that time warner has caps [08:20] but whenever i call them or sign in, i can't find anything like that for m [08:20] for me* [08:21] brycec: And it costs you a small fortune? :P [08:22] Sweet - in the last 4 weeks, I've downloaded ~490GB (more accurately counted) [08:22] dxtr: $100/mo on my res connection. [08:22] My business connection... well business connections just have no caps [08:23] lawl, $100 :/ [08:23] ($95 if you want to be more accurate) [08:23] Add 10-20% and you'd get gigabit [08:23] I assure you, if I could add anything and get GbE, I would seriously consider it. [08:24] guys haiku is hte best os ever [08:24] qbit: bro false [08:24] * brycec waits for kyl to chime in [08:24] it is a good OS [08:24] but it is not the best [08:24] oh damn beat me [08:24] and trust me [08:24] :D [08:24] I <3 haiku more than you [08:24] i don't thank so bro [08:24] i do [08:24] do you have all the BeOS dev books? [08:24] he also <3'd haike before you [08:24] how many compieputers do you have it on right now? [08:24] 'cuz I do [08:24] kyl: indeed i do :O [08:24] i have it on two VMs [08:25] beos was the first os i ever purchased ! [08:25] o/ [08:25] \o [08:25] i still have the R3, R4, and R5 [08:25] * qbit only has r5 [08:26] if i ever find a bebox i will buy it, no question asked [08:27] For those wondering whether DOCSIS 3 is worth it, I present my latency and packet loss between my router and my ISP's first-hop/router. The upgrade should be apparent. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-04_09-25-48.png [08:27] brycec, i'm on docsis 3 [08:28] what is awesome about pueblo .. it has docsis 3 .. but springs doesn't [08:28] gofrigguure [08:28] lawl qbit [08:28] * lteo is frigguuring it out [08:28] * brycec will make a better graph... [08:30] better graph https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-04_09-29-58.png [08:30] http://open.spotify.com/album/3iAhgPaqgnKT1Zw9Nueriz <---- naked lady album!!!! snk!! [08:31] (link IS nsfw) [08:31] * AmberJ_ clicks qbit's link desperately :P [08:31] .troll [08:31] is OpenBSD open source? [08:31] haha [08:33] benDos, there's an amazing online course starting on Coursera in January! [08:33] at least the promo looks very interesting [08:33] s/promo/promo video for class [08:33] at least the promo video for class looks very interesting [08:33] AmberJ_, what class? [08:34] oh jesus H Christ [08:34] ninjapants: I want this for christmas - http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=303678&d=1354636382 [08:35] That's purdy. [08:35] benDos, https://www.coursera.org/course/calcsing [08:35] AmberJ_, that won't help [08:35] I need calc 2 that my college with accept [08:35] They do not accept credits from coursera :p [08:35] benDos, the instructor for this course the craziest book I had ever seen: http://www.math.upenn.edu/~ghrist/FLCT/ [08:36] heh [08:36] benDos: some advice [08:36] qbit: share it to me on spotify brah [08:36] don't fail calc2 [08:36] so that I don't have to click [08:36] kyl, dude I try every time [08:37] They teach methods of integration by hand, and THAT is what is on the final [08:37] sent [08:37] I've done 30+ hours per week on calclus and my brain just does not remember how to do shit by hand in math that complicated [08:37] mmm, nekkid ladies in my inbox [08:37] so learn those methods of integration [08:37] and bpt do them by hand [08:37] benDos, Ok, they don't accept credits from coursera but you can watch online courses to understand the concepts and then pass your exams. [08:38] what kyl said^ [08:38] bpt? [08:38] British Petroleum Tycoon, duh [08:38] I do learn them, every time i take the course [08:38] But since I already know how to do it faster and more accurately online or by looking up formulas [08:39] My brain is all :"fuck you ben, i won't remember this method by hand even if you spend 50 hours doing problems for just that method of integration" [08:39] be parepared to [08:39] well then, your brain is holding you back [08:40] haha [08:40] That's what i'm say'n. [08:40] i suggest punishing it through the use of ethanol [08:40] heavy use thereof [08:40] That at this point, if i won't get the degree without that class [08:40] benDos: is there any crazy mnemonic thingy that you can memorize, that when you go into the exam, the first thing you do is do a brain dump of that mnemonic thing by writing it on the exam paper so you remember? [08:40] It probably makes sense to pay someone to take it for me [08:41] lteo, na the class covers too much tbh [08:41] Idk :/ [08:41] +1 lteo :D [08:41] I do this all the time [08:41] maybe bendos just wasn't mean to get his degree [08:41] kyl, certainly seems that way [08:41] he shall forever be doomed to join our ranks [08:42] No no [08:42] I'll just shift my efforts from actually learning calculus to cheating like a fucking boss [08:42] Cause i really want that mother fucking degree already. [08:43] i'll write a letter to the dean [08:43] alleging academic impropriety [08:43] that's the spirit benDos [08:43] I've met several professors i'm more versed in comp sci than [08:44] AmberJ_, this book is kind of hard to read :/ [08:44] the font [08:44] bro, i met a professor who has a phd from uc berkeley and whose area is spam research. and he doesn't know how spam RBLs worked [08:44] i described it to him, and he was like, "oooohhh so that's how it works" [08:44] :< [08:44] Point being if i don't get catch no one will ever give a shit [08:44] caught* [08:44] benDos: math is hard, you should go shopping [08:44] twss! [08:45] kyl, i'm actually better at math than most of my friends [08:45] s/shopp/facebook [08:45] just not with pen and paper [08:45] kyl, i'm actually better at math than most of my friends [08:45] * benDos is a graph theory pro [08:49] well if you can't do it by hand, you're clearly not good at math [08:49] you're good at telling the computer how to math [08:50] That must be it.. [08:52] maybe get some tips from people who have passed the class? [08:53] i didn't think calc 2 was "hard" -- just a whole lot of WORK. [08:53] the people who did the homework did well. [08:53] but perhaps calc 2 has changed [08:54] knowing all the major trig identities made a big difference [08:56] lteo, the people i know who passed it barely passed and also took calc in hs [08:57] Man idk i'm doing all the homeworks, really it's just not something my brain remembers [09:02] AmberJ_, this textbook is rough [09:04] s/this/yourmom/ [09:04] AmberJ_, yourmom textbook is rough [09:04] Heh <3 dovecot just got a log msg: Dec 04 12:03:04 imap: Error: Time just moved backwards by 1 seconds. I'll sleep now until we're back in present. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards [09:06] Fuck me for picking eco friendly computer [09:06] computers* [09:06] What does that even mean? [09:06] I want my living room to get warm, but they still send off a cool breeze when they're under heavy load [09:06] Isn't it still made of mega toxic plastics and heavy metals? [09:07] Oh :p [09:07] lol dxtr [09:07] I can trade you my old desktop if you want, i never once turned the heat in my office at home last winter [09:07] I've got a nice warm server closet [09:07] dxtr: you need to get closer to the metal to generate heat [09:07] It's literally 15F warmer than my office [09:07] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [09:08] brycec: that's nuts [09:08] kusuriya: Like licking the disks in the disks? [09:08] 15F warmer and I'd be rediculously unformatable [09:08] zod000: it's awesome. Before, all that stuff was in my office [09:08] err uncomfortable [09:08] zod000: but now it's closed away in the closet [09:08] zod000, you were right the first time [09:08] dxtr: like node.js [09:08] BAREMETAL!!! [09:09] oh right [09:09] kusuriya: IT'S SO COLD OUTSIDE [09:09] -7C :( [09:10] dxtr: you need more coffee [09:10] Pussy. [09:10] .wa -7c to f [09:10] benDos: skunkbot is awol [09:10] .wa is skunkbot [09:10] Oh [09:10] It's 20F [09:10] it is a pleasant 22C here [09:10] kusuriya: I have no coffee :( [09:10] That's fucking bbq weather dxtr [09:10] step your shit up [09:10] benDos: Well, it's a fucking blizzard outside and I wanna go buy pizza [09:10] TWSS! [09:11] dxtr: get a coat and go do it [09:11] It's gonna be -14 on Thursday :( [09:11] DO IT NAO! [09:11] dxtr, do socialists not deliver pizza? [09:11] benDos: Does not seem like so, no [09:11] benDos: no because if you buy one pizza and have it delivered you have to buy everyone in the building pizza [09:11] kusuriya, makes a valid point [09:11] its the socalist way [09:12] It's fucking expensive to get it delivered home :( [09:12] kusuriya: no, that is the communist way, the socialist way is that the government provides everyone with a pizza fund, but they can only buy it from SwedPizzaCo [09:13] That's cause socialists are always bitching and whining about a "living wage" [09:13] fuck that [09:13] We have capitolism bitches [09:13] living wages are for pinko commies [09:13] zod000: No, that's the 'merican socialism [09:13] we need to go back to employing children for 2.50 an hour [09:13] Real socialism is "that the government provides everyone with a pizza fund" [09:13] Period [09:14] kusuriya, yeah! that'll teach our high school grads what they have to look forward to [09:14] get your hs diploma now walmart will hire you at a below the poverty line full time position hooray! [09:14] i had to work when i was a kid, but not for 2.5, i got 4.25! [09:14] jk not full time 28 hours so you don't get health care [09:14] benDos: nah we all help walmart pay their employees [09:14] This pizza place has 'MURKAN PIZZAS [09:14] zod000, dollars or deblooms? [09:14] walmart is clearly a government institution [09:15] I'm not really sure how it's legal to even have full time positions that pay below the poverty line [09:15] benDos: doubloons of course [09:15] zod000: I earned shitloads of money when I was a kid because the minimum wages are so high and I didn't have to pay tax :p [09:15] dxtr, and as a kid your expenses are pretty minimal [09:16] my parents made me get a job when i was 14, but they heavily restrict how many hours you can work then [09:16] i think it was like 10 a week [09:16] benDos: $16/hr [09:16] until 16 [09:16] And no tax [09:16] I was working off the books when i was that age zod000 :x [09:16] so no restriction on my hours [09:16] dxtr, lol [09:16] No one is going to believe you that in soviet swedish there is no income tax [09:16] benDos: i worked off the books for my stepfather's business as well, that paid a lot more but was sporadic [09:17] benDos: If I earn less than 30k SEK/per (plus some, I think) there's no tax! [09:17] dxtr, so why make more than that [09:17] per what? [09:17] *** cachopo has joined #devious [09:17] Obviously if the govt pays for things for you [09:17] kyl: Per year :( [09:17] you have no reason tow ork [09:17] because if that's per year [09:17] [09:17] that sucks [09:18] so benDos I was playing with that suggestion for a little while in class and I don't think it gets us anywhere farther [09:18] I could just be stupid though [09:19] You are [09:19] ok [09:19] Hmm [09:19] I'll sketch it out for a sec [09:19] Don't worry about it, jrick, us smart people already solved it [09:19] dxtr: cool. can i haz the solution? [09:19] hah [09:19] jrick: What for? Just go and touch yourself or whatever you do [09:20] * kusuriya gets paid from sweden for playing with himself [09:20] sorry won't cut it [09:20] *** strings has joined #devious [09:21] kusuriya: EVERYTHING IS WHITE OUTSIDE [09:21] IT'S SNOWING HORIZONTALLY [09:21] sweet [09:22] dxtr: ill be over in an hour to do snow angels [09:22] Fuck yeah, it stopped snowing [09:22] Now is my chance to get pizza [09:22] doooeet [09:22] benDos, I didn't got time to read this book. But I'm yet to see a Calculus writeup as crazy as this one! :D [09:22] It's now or never [09:22] Wish me luck [09:22] oh god [09:22] I worry about myself sometimes [09:22] * kusuriya hands dxtr a pistol [09:22] its dangerous to go alone [09:22] work just bought free pizza, must by dxtr's influence [09:22] lteo: did you see 40% off at nsp? brah [09:22] we are all familiar with Eazy E's "Boyz In Da Hood", right? [09:23] lwhalen: yep [09:23] ... [09:23] "Cuz the stacks from Jay-Boss are always large, they come spittin' that trash and the readin' is hard" [09:23] * kyl looks up on youtube [09:23] "wanting nothing in life but to read() init(), don't post that trash just paste-bin it" [09:23] * lwhalen crunks for the camera [09:23] !seen ninjapants [09:23] lwhalen, I last saw ninjapants 4 days 23 hours 37 min 25 sec ago saying in a channel: ha - this one's good, too http://cheezburger.com/6813015808. [09:23] zod000: Work gives me a free christmas dinner tomorrow :D [09:23] With booze and shit [09:23] "I gotta get drunk before i start vim" [09:23] Also, pizza on Friday [09:24] dxtr: christmas is 3 weeks away, they need to ge ta calendar [09:24] Fuck that [09:24] Who wants to meet up with job people during christmas!? [09:24] we have an open bar christmas party, but i am not going this year [09:24] kids have made a babysitter too hard to get [09:25] dxtr: open bar? [09:25] kusuriya: WITH LOADS OF GLÖGG [09:25] ill be there! [09:25] Titties [09:25] ! [09:25] Don't ask me where we're crashing, though [09:26] I live 160km from there [09:26] ewww glögg [09:26] ouch [09:26] lwhalen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeL9gagV_VA i perfer that version [09:26] YouTube Music: "Dynamite Hack-"Boyz In The Hood"_ SEMI-OFFICIAL VIDEO" by Robitussn (3m 15s), 444,503 views, 2,760 likes and 86 dislikes. Uploaded 2011-06-24T19:27:04.000Z. [09:26] dxtr: i have the same prob with our parties [09:26] zod000: Really? Do you also live far away from work? :P [09:27] yup, seen it [09:27] there's also a bluegrass cover of Gin and Juice out there [09:27] dxtr: can we just crash in your cubicle? [09:27] which is EQUALLY hysterical [09:27] dxtr: yeah, about 35 miles, takes about 45 min to drive it [09:28] Boyz in the hood!? Moar like New wheels on the block! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0vULHixL0 [09:28] YouTube Comedy: "Boys On Wheels - New Wheels on the Block" by AdLibsComedy (3m 59s), 78,223 views, 167 likes and 8 dislikes. Uploaded 2007-06-10T23:04:42.000Z. [09:28] dxtr: thats how we know sweden is different [09:29] no newtwork here would have the balls to subtitle disabled people [09:29] Haha [09:29] dxtr: we don't actually have the parties at work as they are too rowdy, we rent out a place [09:29] zod000: that's what we do too [09:29] But everyone lives in Stockholm [09:29] I don't [09:30] kusuriya: Look through the swedish song and watch the rest :P [09:30] It's hilarious [09:30] dxtr: i am :D [09:30] its great [09:32] dxtr: http://youtu.be/1ivTKRSURsQ better [09:32] YouTube Comedy: "Punks On Wheels" by serrifax (2m 15s), 308,162 views, 815 likes and 38 dislikes. Uploaded 2007-11-09T16:49:54.000Z. [09:32] kusuriya: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD0hbg79ftU [09:34] pretty awesome [09:34] im almost to the point i can understand it being spoken at pace :o [09:34] sort of [09:34] What? The way he's talking? [09:35] nah swedish in general [09:35] Oh right [09:35] Titties [09:35] damn youtube vids [09:35] (Pro-tip: Those videos are norwegian) [09:35] damn me [09:35] * kusuriya commits suicide [09:35] :D [09:36] :> [09:36] oh god.. why would you use that face!!!!! [09:36] If you say "fra" in Norwegian you say "from", if you say "fra" in swedish you're talking about the national military surveillance thing [09:36] trafficone: :< [09:37] meh i should learn spanish [09:37] also [09:37] Oh god that's horrible [09:37] por que? [09:37] que paso, work work [09:37] Tienes que morir del mano de puta mexicana? [09:38] La migra, endale! [09:38] PUTA MADRE [09:38] Tu mare? [09:38] MIERDA! [09:38] cierra la boca [09:38] That's all I know [09:38] Oh, I know hora! [09:38] jaja [09:38] I know because it means whore in swedish [09:39] :-D [09:39] cuanto de su burro? [09:39] burrito? [09:39] no burro [09:40] dxtr: burro == sna [09:40] ish [09:41] Aight [09:41] "ish" [09:41] Can it be more or less a donkey? [09:41] yeah im not sure if that would be totally the right word for donkey [09:42] burrito literally translated means Little Donkey [09:42] gordito literally translated means "fatty" [09:43] well a gordita as you would order it at taco bell means "Fat Girl" [09:43] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #devious [09:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn [09:43] i know a couple hispanic freinds of mine that chuckle everytime some one orders a "Gordita extra cheese" [09:45] lol [09:46] *** cachopo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:46] papi chulo was always one of thoose terms of endearment i couldt ever get though [09:47] its like im sorry dont call me daddy in any form [09:47] ever [09:47] ... EVER [09:48] wisdom [09:52] it just makes me feel weird when i meet girls with such a daddy complex they want to call me daddy [09:56] jesus christ http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/15/10/enhanced-buzz-25476-1352993892-9.jpg [09:57] more like Cheesus Christ amirite? [09:57] cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese [09:58] TBH, that's how being on a keto diet feels [09:58] esp. since I actually did that [09:58] i couldn't do a keto diet [09:58] whoa chrome has a windows 8 mode [09:58] (not in public, mind) [09:58] s/chrome/windows 8/ [09:58] (not in public, mind) [10:00] wait, is that a dude or a chick? [10:00] keto diets are generally stupid honestly [10:00] trafficone: i cant tell... [10:01] i did a lot of research and everything about keytosis came back to one thing which was keytosis is the bodys emergency long running starvation state where your body will start canibalizing its self to keep you alive [10:02] *** JainAmber has joined #devious [10:03] *** AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:03] *** _kapu_ has joined #devious [10:03] "These Cheezit Extremes are not cheesy enough..." [10:04] <_kapu_> put cheese on them [10:04] _kapu_: it was in reference to 10:56:30 <+kusuriya> jesus christ [10:04] http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/15/10/enhanced-buzz-25476-1352993892-9.jpg [10:04] THESE CHEESEIT EXTREMES ARE NOT CHEESY ENOUGH! [10:05] <_kapu_> ahh [10:05] that is why america is fat [10:05] <_kapu_> Its often the case that I am not in the loop. I should work on this. Or maybe not [10:05] that's not the only reason [10:05] I admit, I have gnawed upon a block of cheese... But never that big of a block, and I never ate the whole thing. [10:06] *** AmberJ_ has joined #devious [10:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v AmberJ_ [10:06] yeah ive cut me a small block [10:06] <_kapu_> I eat lots'o-cheese [10:06] maybe the size of 2 cheese sticks [10:06] but eat straight off the damn block [10:06] <_kapu_> Any of you good people vim golfers? [10:07] <_kapu_> I just found out about it and am having some fun with this game [10:07] <_kapu_> its pretty cool [10:07] woooo zpool scrub on just 2TB of data has taken 12 hours [10:08] o/ [10:08] *** JainAmber has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:09] <_kapu_> I thought I was good until I did vimgolf. A humbling experience. [10:09] But that's on old-fashioned rotating magnetic media. Scrubbing a volume of SSD's is much, much faster :) [10:10] i bet [10:10] <_kapu_> submitted my solution and got like 6th place, there are some really crazy good vim guys there [10:10] specially since you get get 6Gbit from it [10:10] Nah, these are on a SATA2 controller, only 150MB/s [10:10] qbit: wat is windows 8 mode? [10:10] aw [10:10] piroko: Metro [10:10] Even so, 20GB scrubbed in <2m [10:14] piroko, basically fullscreen [10:24] 12:22 <@kyl> lteo: did you see 40% off at nsp? brah [10:24] kyl: -.- [10:24] well lteo brah, did ya? [10:25] no did not brah [10:25] pfft rame [10:25] i need to actually finish at least one chapter of the n books i bought this year before i can justify buying more [10:25] any of you guys know how to read legalese? [10:25] a good friend of mine owns his own very small consulting company [10:25] i know how to read it, but doesn't mean i understand it ;) [10:26] and he wants to hire me to buy and install a SAN for one of his clients [10:26] I can read and understand it, but I might miss a nuance [10:26] even though he's a good close personal friend of mine [10:26] ditto, I'm no expert. And I certainly can't write it. [10:26] he dropped an NDA/non-compete on me that seems... a little excessive [10:26] lwhalen: drop it on us and let us review it? [10:27] CROWDSOURCE IT [10:27] wait [10:27] GROUPBRAIN GO [10:27] http://pastebin.com/yUB1SN44 [10:27] is the NDA self-referential? [10:27] heh a lot of them are :p [10:27] lwhalen: if it's excessive, that's actually a potential weakness on his part [10:27] because if he sues, you can use that against him in court [10:27] "You shall not disclose that this NDA even exists." [10:28] although, it'd be "nicer" to present an NDA you can agree to [10:28] here's my response to his lawyer (also a close friend of mine), hence the informal tone: [10:28] http://pastebin.com/6yAYm4fq [10:28] it's a lot of boilerplate stuff, of course [10:29] my biggest concern is line 14 (in my response) [10:30] "information of the Company and Company’s clients;" [10:30] ? [10:30] oh [10:30] http://pastebin.com/6yAYm4fq - The above and stuff like it is perfectly fine and reasonable. Should I do any of the above, I deserve to get the courtly ban-hammer dropped upon me like the fist of an angry god [10:30] lwhalen: that's more important for account execs [10:30] that line [10:31] and line 16 [10:31] lol [10:31] so [10:31] my visa application [10:31] tries to avoid as many gender-specific words as possible [10:31] and then failed at that [10:31] lwhalen: the noncompete id ask them to drop because of the survival clause [10:31] so I'm a he according to this visa application [10:31] sharvey: haha [10:31] because once you terminate me FUCK YOU ill work for who i want [10:31] damn you male-dominated field [10:31] of software engineering [10:31] wait [10:31] what happened sharvey? [10:32] Who cares what your gender so long as they give you a decent credit limit [10:32] my visa application has a part that explains what I'll be doing in the states [10:32] haha [10:32] bbl [10:32] "the trainee/intern will do this, that, etc." [10:32] sharvey, taking jobs from americans [10:32] and hten a part said "he will be ..." [10:32] I was like, -.- [10:32] Hah [10:32] Yeeeaaaaa [10:32] benDos: sharvey lives in north america ;) [10:33] sharvey, you know that for a while cs has more females than almost all the other sciences [10:33] counterstrike yeah! [10:33] it's only the last decade or so women (all of them) decided that programming was lame and graphic design is where it's at [10:33] yeah [10:33] :( [10:33] pansies [10:34] bring it up at the next lady meeting? [10:34] lwhalen: also note their survival clause ivalidates their entire NDA/noncompete in most state courts :) [10:34] nah, I'm just entertained [10:34] I might pin it up or something on the wall [10:34] because it's pretty lols [10:35] i know Cali and WA state "limits or terms of a contract can not extend past the length of the compensated portion of the contract." [10:35] ^ sounds like it pertains to an employment contract, which this is not. [10:36] the judge essencially broke it down in WA stating if you want to keep access to an employees personal copyrights and have terms that exist beyond the contract you must keep the contract in perpetuity and the terms of the compensation for such [10:36] brycec: employment and other work contracts [10:36] the judes state you cant have terms of a contract that last beyond the length of the contract [10:36] right. once my length shortens, it's over. [10:37] Generall speaking lwhalen I'd say the contract looks pretty standard, pretty boilerplate, so there's at least nothing unusual or "hinky" in it. [10:37] yeah [10:38] my only complaint in it is the survival, id ask either strike the non compete and keep survival or strike survival and keep the non compete [10:38] those are the options id give them [10:38] That said, I would request a provision be added, given that you are a general IT contractor, that you may work with their clients outside of the contract provided you do nothing to "compete" with Company, LLC. Just my $.02 [10:38] perhaps - provided that Company, LLC signs off on it. [10:38] i generally strike both if i can [10:39] ive never ran into an issue with it but im in WA who generally finds in favor of the contractor so [10:39] (e.g. Client needs you do install some light bulbs, which Company LLC clearly has no interest in.) [10:41] things i like about WA, they genrally say FUCK YOUR NONCOMPETE SON [10:41] (I lol'd at your response's line 14 lwhalen ) [10:41] ^ [10:41] Line 20 -- yep, you caught them using boilerplate stuff and they didn't update the #s [10:42] * brycec has done that many times [10:42] * brycec has executed a few contracts, if you know what he means. ;) [10:43] alll right [10:43] and if it was me id have them fix 9 to 4 [10:43] otherwise they may slip in the missing sections ;) [10:45] ^ [10:47] if they slip in something long in the bottom section, it might be painful for you in the long run [10:47] Quality of education in India: Quoting a question from end semester exam: "What are exceptions in C?" :( [10:48] AmberJ_: well, what are they/ [10:48] Trick question [10:48] i bet it's a tirck question [10:48] AmberJ_: let's see how educated you are [10:48] "fatal" [10:48] It's actually not a trick question of fatal [10:48] err... here is the exact question: [10:49] they want you to check the over flow register flags [10:49] "What is a exception in C programming language?" [10:49] http://sourceforge.net/p/keepass/discussion/329221/thread/b9e743f3#8391 [10:49] ^^^ all you gentoo dudes [10:49] AmberJ_: "Exceptions are not part of the c99 or gnu99 c spec." [10:49] the cairo USE flag [10:49] what is that [10:50] answer: exceptions are not used in C, but if really needed, they can be simulated with setjmp and longjmp. however doing so is considered bad practice. the programmer is better off choosing a language that does allow exceptions like C++ or Java. [10:50] The instructor uses 20-30 year old Turbo C++ compiler (based on DOS)... so there is no doubt that instructor is totally stupid. [10:50] is that equiv to adding ./configure --with-cairo in libgdiplus? [10:50] lteo, that^ [10:50] no... [10:50] longjmp can be used to do exceptions [10:50] but 110% longjmp is not exceptions [10:50] period [10:50] they may be asking about errno.h? [10:51] that's why i say "simulated" ;) [10:51] The instructor didn't really meant simulating or doing something similar... She is really really stupid! She teaches from a pre-ansi-c89 book! [10:51] k&r brah! [10:51] haha [10:51] ALL THINGS ARE INT UNLESS YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE TROLLOLOLOLOL [10:51] that's what she said! [10:51] *** ninjapants has joined #devious [10:52] exceptions in C are done by first writing a C++ compiler in C, and then writing a C++ program that does exceptions which will be compiled by said compiler. [10:52] the instructor is clearly dumb [10:52] I think there is a case to be made that exceptions in c are errno patterns [10:52] ^ [10:52] 'a' is not the appropriate article for 'exception' [10:52] kyl, fuck you bro [10:52] quit hate'n in indians [10:52] you don't know [10:52] maybe they don't believe in grammar [10:52] or do I? [10:53] With their loltastic blasphemy laws 'n shit [10:53] And crazy civil wars over which make believe friend is best [10:53] oh, THOSE Indians [10:53] i'm confused now [10:53] the sky wizard cults are endemic the world over [10:53] YER A WIZARD kyl [10:53] I don't blame her for English. English is usually second language here in India, kyl. But I do blame her for her crap knowledge of CS/C. [10:53] nbd js [10:54] AmberJ_: I was being facetious... [10:54] HOLY SHIT I FIXED IT! [10:54] \o/ [10:54] qbit: what are you even doing with gentoo? brah [10:54] openbsd [10:54] qbit fixed mono. this is not a simple feat. [10:55] the fuck are you trying to fix mono for? [10:55] .define facetious [10:55] To make an attempt at being funny, while being sarcastic at the same time.Jacky was being facetious when she said, "Yes, let's all go to Iraq for my birthday party!" [10:55] keepass [10:55] ... [10:55] AmberJ_, [10:55] what answer did you put? [10:55] kyl: what, you don't want to keep your ass? [10:55] dude, Iraq has this great ice cream and IED place [10:55] lteo: no, I am trying to trim down my girlish figure brah [10:55] scones while you wair [10:55] **wait [10:55] trafficone: s/ice cream/falafel/ [10:55] FALAFEL BATTLE! [10:56] FUCK THAT [10:56] SHWARMA BITCHES [10:56] kyl: ok brah. i mean you go girl [10:56] benDos, this question appeared in exam for 7th semester. I'm in 11th semester :D SO, I didn't had to answer this question. [10:56] aw, where's the pun in that? [10:56] lteo: bro \o/ ? [10:56] Oh. [10:56] lteo: http://deftly.net/keepassfix.diff [10:56] The correct answer would have been errno and macromagicks [10:56] fact ^ [10:56] the correct answer would have been fuck this, i'm out [10:56] qbit: hawt [10:56] +1 kyl [10:57] call me when you learn some c [10:57] I'm collecting exam papers for all semesters this year and I'm gonna do a writeup insulting all those crap teachers in my college. [10:57] s/l.+/have a degree [10:57] I'm cohave a degree [10:57] doh. [10:57] wanted the l :x [10:57] AmberJ_, instead of that [10:57] want to come to america [10:57] and take my calculus final for me [10:58] I'll pay you in like [10:58] lol no.. :P [10:58] That's what c0sh said! [10:58] I suck at calculus [10:58] $10,000 worth of C99 info pages [10:58] calculus is the cornerstone of several areas of modern math [10:58] AmberJ_: but you haz friends who rock at calculus right? [10:58] trafficone, yeah but none of the cool ones [10:58] graph theory is where it's at [10:58] yet many CS people claim that discrete math is the only sexy math [10:59] graph theory does rock my socks [10:59] graph theory is cutting edge [10:59] cause set theory is really really important [10:59] -_- [10:59] lteo, fucking zinged bro [10:59] lteo, heh yea... they always make me feel inferior! :( [10:59] I want to tramp stamp that on myself now [10:59] (=^.^=) [10:59] >< [11:00] trafficone, i just got told that everett would be abit far out [11:00] it kinda is [11:01] the idea that i may pay less than 1000/m for a decent 2bdrm [11:01] but not really bad [11:01] with just an hour 15 or so commute [11:01] sounded super sexy [11:01] I also want to see how much my car insurance would be cheaper != kings [11:01] benDos: come down into renton [11:03] haha [11:03] light link into work also sounds neat [11:03] yeah [11:03] kusuriya, are you in renton proper? [11:03] it really does [11:05] everett seemed like 20 to 30% less than where i was looking in kings county for larger apartments [11:06] TBQH, everett has some serious charm. FIOS, proximity to quaint Whidbey Island while still not too far from Seattle, and overall cost of living is cheaper [11:06] FIOS you say... [11:07] * benDos is looking up whidbey [11:07] IIRC, from Shoreline to Everett there's FIOS, but YMMV, so check w/ Verizon [11:07] The wiki article doesn't make it seem that cool? [11:08] it's quaint, not "cool" [11:08] Heh ok [11:08] Realistically from the sound transit to kings street station [11:08] i mean it's like 1:10 or so on the schedule [11:08] for all the trains [11:09] my hobby is capitalizing SQL keywords [11:10] i like to alternate the caps [11:10] sElEcT [11:10] i like to name my tables as SQL keywords [11:10] sElEcT FoO fRoM bAr WhErE bAz='quux'; [11:10] CREATE TABLE create(... [11:11] actually, ANSI C has floating point exceptions... that's the term they use, and they use the terminology of "raising" them. no, it's not the C++ meaning of exceptions, but they do use those terms. they also use the term "object", so C is an object-oriented language, too. [11:12] and IIRC the new C ?C11? is going to be doing some funky-ass stupid things, too, to make it more like C++ [11:12] last i heard, there were going to be some extensions for doing threading in C [11:12] dbtid: I thought floating point overflows were in the CPU and you just read the flags from it, or is there another sort of floating point exception I'm confusing? [11:13] trafficone: here's the issue... what does "exception" mean? what does it mean to "raise an exception?" [11:13] in C++ it means one thing, in C it means another. [11:13] dtthat's what i said :/ [11:13] in the case of C, it's something that gets checked and a status flag is set somewhere. [11:13] dbtid, * ^ [11:13] the register flags [11:14] ah, gotcha [11:14] well, yes, i think the register flags are used to set status flags. by conforming machines. [11:14] same thing can be done for int arithmetic on most modern cpu's [11:15] I believe SSE or AVX has some more required flag registers [11:15] i don't know of a CPU in the last 20 years, since i started doing embedded systems, that doesn't have a status register. it's kind of an important thing. perhaps on an asynchronously clocked cpu you would do things differently. i don't know. [11:16] There aren't (m)any good reasons when designing a cpu to not have those flag registers [11:16] You have that information anyway, no reason to force your users to spend dozens of cycles to calculate something you already know [11:17] * kusuriya makes a processor with 0 flag registers [11:17] NONE! [11:17] Is it a gpu? [11:17] I imagine at least some gpu's don't bother [11:18] could be [11:22] benDos: that'd make sense, you could save space, and the expectation is that you won't care if there's an issue because there won't be time to correct it [11:23] Yeah gpu's don't give two shits about most errors [11:23] "OH NOOOOOO a couple pixels may be slightly off for one frame" [11:23] seattle has sooooo much suburban sprawl [11:24] Every area i zoom into looks the same :/ [11:24] benDos: seattle is one large city from everett to tacoma and out to redmond [11:24] I'm starting to see that now [11:24] its kinda like looking down the seaboard on the east coast [11:24] Heh [11:25] And I suppose even half an hour off my commute each way saves me 5 hours a week [11:25] yeeeaah [11:25] compared to the Phoenix valley, it just doesn't feel like that much suburban sprawl to me [11:25] benDos: just note this area has the highest average commute in the US in terms of time [11:25] Wtf. [11:25] yep [11:25] I'm confused. [11:25] anyone knows a simple markdown parser script that'[s written in perl? [11:26] So everyone is telling me that if i do bellevue renton etc my commute will be like [11:26] half an hour maybe 45 min right? [11:26] yep [11:26] and thats about right [11:26] lteo: https://github.com/bobtfish/text-markdown [11:26] But in NYC a significant portion of people commute an hour and half if not more [11:26] Man idk [11:27] qbit: hawt thanks [11:27] the average commute in the seattle metro area is 35 miles and 1hr 45 minutes [11:27] If i need to chill on a train for another half hour a day, i really need to decide if that's worth another 200sqrt on my apt and another 200 in my pocket per month [11:27] due to traffic [11:27] Hm [11:27] but if you get on the train or light rail the commute is not affected by traffic [11:27] and the busses are affectex less [11:28] benDos, lteo, dbtid: This exam paper will show you how dumb the instructor is (if you have a look at other questions). She didn't meant a trick question when she asked about "exceptions in C": http://i.imgur.com/dHazD.jpg [11:29] getch(), getche() :P [11:29] I don't know off the top of my head what getch and getche are [11:29] iirc getch and getche were DOS functions, one to get a char, one to get a char and echo [11:29] yeah, conio.h [11:29] right dbtid ... old pre-ansi-c89 compilers [11:29] standard DOS programming [11:30] yup [11:30] If it isn't linux i don't know shit about it [11:30] Don't worry benDos, it's over 20 years old shit [11:30] linux is over 20 [11:31] I meant getch(), DOS programming when I said 20 years old shit [11:31] oh wow i found a really awesome markdown parser thanks to qbit's link [11:31] http://www.frykholm.se/files/markdown.lua [11:31] "Write a perl code to differentiate between do-while and until loop." (stupid 4 marks question in exam for a post graduate CS program) [11:32] "Explain last and next jump statements in perl with example" <-- wtf? there could be better perl questions in a bioinformatics exam... [11:33] answer: @$@$9832587jdsifsdkaw9a8$^^$%!%%!%! [11:33] Are they seriously testing how well you memorized spec? [11:33] Instead of "do x" [11:33] or fix y [11:33] "Why is this not working" [11:33] etc [11:33] education is done very differently in other parts of the world brah [11:34] "education"? [11:34] especially developing countries.. [11:35] whoa nice [11:36] benDos: in many asian countries, the teacher is god, you do not question what s/he teaches. [11:36] benDos: memorizing spec is easy mode, sign me up [11:36] (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ [11:36] jk btw [11:36] that has hopefully changed now [11:36] lteo: bro blackfriday [11:36] lteo: they changed it to "lteo is god, you do not question his trolls" [11:37] lteo, that's how it was at RIT [11:37] https://github.com/russross/blackfriday/ [11:37] They tried to fire me when I asked one of profs about something she told us to look into [11:37] kyl, that looks sweet [11:37] benDos: did you ask him "what does god need wit ha starship?" [11:37] kyl: nice [11:38] lteo: i'm using it in a wiki project brah [11:38] sorry, i was reading about star trek earlier [11:38] Hah [11:38] it' pretty nice [11:38] No i got hired as a summer researcher at a rochester institute of tech, big research uni in ny [11:38] One of the profs had us look at a particular type of encryption [11:39] I mentioned another paper i had read that claimed what she was putting forward to be mostly broken [11:39] Instead of finding a paper to show me or using maths [11:39] she went to my boss and suggested he fire me [11:41] interesting take on the ad hominem [11:41] how dare you question her choice of hybrid Caesar/XOR/ROT13 encryption! [11:41] passed through a custom vigenere [11:41] heh [11:42] It was about using encrypted data in cloud calculation [11:42] lteo: ROT26 [11:42] ROT52 [11:42] Noobs [11:42] dbtid: ROT26 is doubly effective, and so light on the cpu [11:42] 26 and 52 aren't powers of two [11:42] nope [11:42] which will throw them off [11:42] what criminal mind could break this? NONE [11:43] ROT67108864 [11:43] ^ there's your fucking power of two, benDos [11:43] zod000: EXACTLY! high preformance and unbreakable, since no one would ever believe someone would use it! [11:43] >.> [11:45] stupid computer not knowing that i meant to press OK instead of Cancle [11:45] Let iptables do your encryption, XOR target. [11:45] i only use USDA Prime numbers for my RSA algorithm. [11:46] benDos: are you not letting iptables do your encryption? [11:46] Ohh yay [11:46] lteo: tasty and secure [11:47] lteo: bro which is why i use 0xDEADBEEF for my IVs [11:47] I swear we do more nerf wars than work here [11:47] piroko: what is it you would say that you do there? [11:47] lol [11:47] kyl: I assumed he mean using a prime number of ounces for a steak [11:48] * zod000 wants a 19oz filet [11:48] i'm not going to lie [11:48] so i'll just sit down [11:48] i would take an 18oz filet [11:48] kyl: prepare to have your steak compromised [11:49] i'll compromise your steak, if you know what i mean [11:51] Ok i'm going home [11:51] bbiab gaiz [11:51] *** benDos has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [11:52] Ke$ha has such great lyrics [11:54] .addtroll Ke$ha has such great lyrics [11:54] Ke$ha has such great lyrics: was added [11:54] .troll [11:54] v8 is probably the 3rd slowest thing i have ever seen [11:54] .troll [11:54] I love working on my tax return! [11:54] .troll [11:54] Using .docx to save source files will allow you to colour hilight your syntax. [11:54] lol [11:54] hahahahahahaha [11:54] That one is awesome [11:55] *** benDossBot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:56] .troll | s/^/jrick: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ [11:56] jrick: star wars is meh -- brycec [11:56] /kick [11:56] .troll | s/^/jrick: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ [11:56] jrick: qbit, are you sure you still don't want the 2GB HD ~2 minutes long porn video? :P -- brycec [11:57] .troll | s/^/kyl says: / [11:57] kyl says: holding out for when the iPhone supports Java. [11:57] damnit that was annoying [11:57] .troll | s/^/brycec: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ [11:57] brycec: "if only bing has google mode, where you can search on bing to get your rewards but it gives you google results" -- brycec [11:57] 1pm is a *terrible* time for an ISP to reboot my modem [11:57] .troll | s/^/kyl says: / [11:57] kyl says: i wish somebody would write a decent window manager for linux [11:58] hahaha [11:58] This channel is pure gold [11:58] I'm glad I just found it [11:59] Someone query when I joined. I can't remember the command [11:59] .troll | s/^/piroko says: / [11:59] piroko says: javascript has been a joke since its inception, never taken seriously or cared about. Barely tolerated by most experienced programmers [12:00] piroko: my logs first show you Oct 6, 2010 [12:00] (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ [12:00] Huh. That's totally something I'd say [12:00] .troll | s/^/kusuriya says: / [12:00] kusuriya says: Increase your size day by day [12:00] brycec: Wow. Longest I've ever stayed in a channel [12:00] @kusuriya [12:00] Jul 06, 2012 14:23:57 brycec: ive made a few drones, I have a small scale drone that i can shoot spitballs from [12:01] *** ckrailo has joined #devious [12:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ckrailo [12:01] *** AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:04] .troll | s/^/kusuriya: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ [12:04] kusuriya: All my IP addresses start with 127 -- brycec [12:04] Actually that was my .troll [12:04] .troll | s/^/piroko: / | s/$/ -- brycec/ [12:04] piroko: Oh, well if NetBSD agrees with it, then it's flat out wrong. -- brycec [12:04] 12:43 <@brycec> .addtroll All my IP addresses start with 127 [12:04] brycec: I agree [12:14] *** AmberJ_ has joined #devious [12:14] *** AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Changing host) [12:14] *** AmberJ_ has joined #devious [12:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v AmberJ_ [12:14] .troll | s/^/brycec says: / [12:14] brycec says: Your VBScript code looks very elegant. [12:15] lal [12:15] these hilights are getting annoying [12:15] :P [12:15] * kusuriya stops [12:15] Thank you [12:15] b.r.y.c.e.c [12:17] s/\.// [12:17] brycec [12:17] *** trafficone was kicked by brycec (naughty) [12:17] *** trafficone has joined #devious [12:19] okay it was actually clever [12:20] *** benDos has joined #devious [12:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v benDos [12:20] back [12:21] *** benDossBot has joined #devious [12:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v benDossBot [12:21] potato | s/\(.\)/\1./ | s/\.$// [12:21] potato [12:21] that's cool lazylopez_ [12:23] I'mma get some pizza [12:23] nice. [12:23] very nice. [12:23] kusuriya, sorry were you in renton? [12:24] s/en/ec/ | s/on/um/ [12:24] kusuriya, sorry were you in rectum? [12:25] *** xpt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:25] benDos: i am [12:25] well will be [12:25] kusuriya: ooh so you got the place? [12:26] brycec: nah still thinking positive thoughts [12:26] ill know today hopefully [12:26] but they havent put the property on the market so [12:26] Hmm [12:27] *** xpt has joined #devious [12:27] Oh a bunch of park and rides in renton neat [12:28] tons [12:28] Renton is a large commuter area [12:28] youll either commute to renton to work at boeing [12:28] or commute from renton to seattle or redmond [12:28] Oh mang [12:28] no light link rail in renton :/ [12:28] no [12:29] light rail goes from the airport to downtowm [12:29] only [12:29] commuter rail goes from tacoma to everett [12:29] I thought you said there was some train i could take from renton to downtown? [12:29] no that was everett [12:29] Oh [12:29] Oohkay :/ [12:29] So i'd be busing it from renton? [12:29] yep [12:29] or bussing to light rail [12:29] and going in [12:31] Bus to light rail or just bus seems ok i guess [12:31] Not nearly as cool as taking a train from everett to like 75 ft from my office though [12:31] yeah it gets a bit crowded on the buses [12:31] but the bus stops like right infront of your office so [12:31] Plus trains are cool [12:32] well the regular commuter train comes with internets IIRC [12:32] The bus and light link are right there [12:32] i think sound transit either is right there [12:32] or right up the street [12:32] the sounder is up at the end of the block [12:32] \o/ [12:32] \p/ [12:32] i don't know if kings street station == international district station [12:32] benDos: it is [12:32] Yeah see that seemed neat [12:32] *** ninjapants has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [12:33] How does renton fair on rent [12:33] when you come up out of the tunnel for the station to the left is the stadium to the right is international district [12:33] I haven't looked into renton too much yet been busy [12:33] sweet [12:33] benDos: 1075 sqft house 3 bd 1395/month [12:33] New sets for loongson! [12:33] New sets for i386! [12:33] New sets for amd64! [12:33] WHOA [12:33] 750sqft apt with 1bd and office was 850 [12:33] Hmm not too shabby [12:33] Ok that sounds sweet [12:34] To start with anyone [12:34] Once i get a feel for my actual expenses i think a nicer apt will be in order but to start as i said i'm underbudgeting like crazy [12:34] with anyway* [12:36] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [12:36] It's fun to have a semi- widely-used application on Pushover :) [12:37] My own personal "applications" only get a few pushes in a month, but hey now I get to see the pretty graphs [12:37] pushover? [12:37] pushover.net [12:37] checking it out now [12:37] so it's like [12:37] twitter? [12:37] no no [12:37] :p [12:38] I gotcha [12:38] *** AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [12:38] DURR I'M CINCINNATI BELL I'LL BE AT YOUR HOUSE BETWEEN 8 AND 12 TODAY [12:38] unless you use Twitter like Pushover (which I do actually) [12:38] LOL OOPS IT'S 2 O'CLOCK [12:38] piroko: and were they? [12:38] ha [12:38] PIROKO [12:38] DID YOU TRY JIGGLING THE CABLES? [12:38] LOUD NOISES [12:38] WHAT? YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CAT TO THE VET? WHY DIDN'T YOU LEAVE YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING DAY WIDE OPEN? [12:38] Oh sorry [12:38] Caps lock key got stuck [12:39] More like pirokoangrymode got stuck. [12:39] DOESN'T MATTER, WE DON'T NEED LOWERCASE WHERE WE'RE GOING [12:39] WOOHOO [12:39] WE CAN SAVE BITS IF WE DON'T BOTHER WITH CASE [12:39] OH [12:39] kyl: [12:39] WECANSAVEBITSIFWEDONTBOTHERWITHSPACES [12:39] oh! [12:39] IRC IS FASTER THAN NODEJS NOW LOLOLOLZ [12:39] ha [12:39] kyl: [12:39] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmd8MpJjQJw [12:39] OH [12:40] YouTube People: "Heymoonshaker - Ten letter word" by officialdavecrowe (1m 42s), 1,411 views, 26 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-07-21T00:38:05.000Z. [12:40] qbit: bro WAT [12:40] BRO THAT [12:40] PLAYITLOUD [12:40] kyl, that youtube link [12:40] The ten letter word thing [12:40] BRORGY [12:40] I imagine that's what he was talking about anyway [12:40] * qbit gets his BROFIST [12:40] DAFUQISTHISSHIT [12:40] * benDos gets his BROGAT [12:40] Spoiler a BROGAT is just a glock i clean with axe. [12:42] til benDos uses axe body spray.. and calls it "gat" [12:43] I think your reading comprehension is a bit shoddy today [12:43] s/ddy/t/ [12:43] I think your reading comprehension is a bit shot today [12:43] Both work? [12:44] Yes [12:45] GUYS [12:45] WHYAREYOUBACKTOLCASE [12:45] BECAUSERAPE [12:45] roughro [12:45] someone is gonan get butt probbed [12:47] heymoonshaker's other music saddens me [12:47] because it isn't as awesome as that song [12:47] qbit: you getting butt probed? i thought you liked girls... [12:47] TIL pltgames.com is super fucking awesome [12:47] does your fiance know??? [12:48] monthly programming language game [12:48] dbtid: who said it wasn't his girl doing the probing? [12:48] ^ [12:48] nbdjs [12:49] brycec: i suppose not. silly me. [12:49] shame on you, jumping to conclusions... [12:50] well, at least it's not the only exercise i get... [12:50] zing! [12:53] http://boingboing.net/2012/12/04/tallest-possible-lego-tower-he.html <--- best use of math today [12:53] s/today/todate/ [12:53] http://boingboing.net/2012/12/04/tallest-possible-lego-tower-he.html <--- best use of math todate [12:54] hah [13:01] hmm should i get a lack rack or just buy a real rack [13:03] buy a real lack rack [13:03] pft [13:05] I haven't seen real racks in 2' heights [13:05] so, AFAICT, it's either Lack hack or hack something else [13:05] lack rack ftw [13:05] you can always stack lack racks [13:05] ^ [13:06] I love lack racks... [13:06] get slack, stack-lack-rack hack in your crack shack [13:06] Of course, be careful when racking heavy things, be sure you've braced the legs adequately [13:06] well morsi is out now XD [13:06] oh baby [13:06] but it's still super-cheap and easy, and stylish [13:06] http://youtu.be/rsBJ7gPoRmw [13:06] YouTube News: "Morsi flees as angry crowd storms palace in Cairo, battles riot police" by RussiaToday (5m 43s), 302 views, 89 likes and 5 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-12-04T20:00:33.000Z. [13:06] they stormed his place [13:07] guess his strong arming trying to force egypt to be like the rest of the muslim states didnt sit well with people [13:07] sure he didn't just have a crazy party and forgot to set his privacy settings? [13:08] trafficone: he tried to set his privacy settings thats the issue [13:08] he set them to ultra high then started trying to write the egyptian constitution [13:08] well put [13:09] the people simply said "look fucker we want freedom of everything and not another dictator" [13:11] so, reading comments on cnn.com makes me weep for America [13:11] *** bse__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:12] i cant weep any more for america [13:12] the picture of the lady eating a block of cheese was all i had [13:12] either thinking that Morsi is the same as Obama, or that Egyptian democracy works exactly like the US [13:12] kusuriya, does http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/04/1938212/cops-to-congress-we-need-logs-of-americans-text-messages help? [13:12] trafficone: lol [13:12] benDos: nope i already knew that [13:13] kusuriya: you've literally run out of fucks to give [13:13] trafficone: yeah now is the time for action [13:13] im all out of fucks to give for complaining about it [13:13] *** _kapu_ has left [13:14] im working with my GF to teach her how to use an encrypted SMS app i have [13:14] pidgin-otr is super super easy [13:14] yeah but pidgin OTR doesnt work on the phone or on the go [13:14] I use that with my gf sometimes [13:14] I guess [13:14] *** bse__ has joined #devious [13:15] but yeah encrypt all the things [13:15] you want to try to piss in my cherrios gubmint ill just make it harder :) [13:16] I don't understand why anyone doing anything illegal wouldn't already be using encrypted sms messages [13:16] or at least anonymous phones for their illegal activities [13:16] trafficone, if you know enough to use encrypted messages [13:16] you probably can swing a living doing something that won't land you in jail [13:17] this is how my encrypted text message looks like: y0 d00d w3 d0!ng s0m3th!n6 i113g4L y0 [13:17] s/$/obama 911 flu [13:17] this is how my encrypted text message looks like: y0 d00d w3 d0!ng s0m3th!n6 i113g4L y0obama 911 flu [13:18] seriously, search TWITTER for HMU [13:18] it's depressing [13:18] ^ [13:18] so much bad music [13:18] trafficone, i'm gonna go check now :p; [13:19] what is HMU? [13:19] how much? [13:19] hit me up [13:19] qbit: hit me up [13:19] haha [13:19] nice [13:19] i like the notacop twitter profile [13:19] https://twitter.com/notapoliceman [13:19] if you're willing to search facebook, it's all over there too [13:19] as well as pictures of peoples drug scores [13:20] people as a whole are dumb [13:20] credit cards [13:20] Dude trafficone you were serious [13:20] benDos: :-( sad story, bro [13:20] i mean the zip code didn't work but #somearea weed hmu [13:20] seems to hit all the time [13:21] eg https://twitter.com/Noah480/status/275065442874318849 [13:21] TWITTER: Anyone need bud hmu tonight its 25 a g but its the best weed in az and ill hook up!! Just hmu on twitter or text me 480-430-9775 (Sun Dec 02 02:34:46 +0000 2012) [13:21] zip codes are kinda small, hence ppl use area codes instead [13:21] heh [13:22] i'll try that [13:22] no go [13:23] lol [13:24] benDos: HMU is code word for IAMA COP [13:24] Lol [13:24] Cops on the internet [13:24] it happens [13:25] When they try to pick up some kid to diddle and it turns out to be another cop [13:25] Then whoever says "GOTCHA" first [13:25] they get to make the arrest [13:25] https://twitter.com/notpolice/status/275360375879397376 hahahahaha [13:25] TWITTER: I have all these empty tobacco blankets but no marijuanas to roll in them :( can someone please help me out?? (Sun Dec 02 22:06:44 +0000 2012, retweeted 221 times) [13:25] and it's safe to assume that everyone offering drugs/hookup info on the Internet is a cop [13:25] yep [13:25] On one hand I agree [13:26] On the other, i don't try to find drugs or hookups on twitter [13:26] so i'm good [13:26] well, yeah, that's because of the safe assumption [13:26] like, it's probably a mix of cops/dumbasses [13:26] but someone involved in that wouldn't want to get mixed up with either [13:26] man [13:26] i start looking through twitter [13:26] especially the @needadebitcard people [13:27] and was amazed at the quality of the tweets [13:27] and it's like, fuckkk, these are real people [13:27] hahahahaa [13:27] I assume about 1/3rd of what i read online is written by some poor inmate in a chinese jail [13:27] I assume some small portion of what I read online is by a poor phd student who's lost all hope [13:28] phdcomics? [13:28] ha [13:28] (#csc has a resident phd student who is a huge troll) [13:28] any time anyone wants to debate the question of whether we share a common ancestry with monkeys [13:28] sharvey: is it YOU? [13:28] i just point out the internet [13:28] s/ a / several / [13:28] i just point out the internet [13:28] brycec: no [13:28] #csc has some lols [13:28] brycec: but, people have accused me of being this other person [13:28] used to idle in there [13:28] lol [13:28] benDos: I am now on csc syscom [13:29] bryce just accused you right now [13:29] and was csc sysadmin last term [13:29] kyl: hahahaha [13:29] syscom == system commander? [13:29] maybe it's your secret other identity that even you don't know about? [13:29] kyl: systems committee [13:29] trafficone: MPD [13:29] Ohh [13:29] do you get nasty messages from yourself? [13:29] holy shit [13:29] canada is being all communist [13:29] system commander is way cooler [13:29] what with committees and bulshit [13:29] hahaha [13:29] *bullshit [13:29] Bro [13:29] kyl: syskom? [13:29] We have committees to. [13:29] (my officemate is french canadian) [13:29] we have n systems [13:30] psh [13:30] french canadians don't count [13:30] oh you poor thing kyl [13:30] they're a separate species [13:30] Yeah fuck those guys! [13:30] sharvey: DON'T TRY TO SWAY ME WITH YOUR CANADIA^wCOMMERNIST LIES [13:30] sharvey: i'm just gonna lump you in [13:30] sharvey: if they don't count, how do they do math? [13:30] ^ [13:30] lteo: I see what you did there [13:30] but do you [13:30] lteo, you are none stop with the pun train [13:30] for like [13:30] a week [13:31] Stop watching so much sienfeld. [13:31] are you trying to revoke his pun card [13:31] benDos: dude i've always been on the pun train [13:31] Maybe i just started paying attention? [13:31] Idk [13:31] benDos: you're just a hater [13:31] False [13:31] true [13:31] error [13:31] benDos is a professional hater [13:31] NILOLOLOL [13:31] of everything and everyone [13:32] hahaha [13:32] trafficone: ENOLOVE ? [13:32] we had ENOBEER earlier [13:32] on saturday [13:32] it was catastrophic [13:32] yeah [13:32] actually i do believe that's an EMERG in syslog [13:33] benDos: I'm sorry, I was wrong [13:33] New sets for macppc! [13:33] kyl, are you still mad that i dynamicly link things sometimes? [13:33] dynamically even [13:33] ECLOBBER [13:33] no, i just realised you don't hate *everything* [13:34] ~java? [13:34] * lteo bracs.. [13:34] i forgot how much you love calc2 [13:34] Every thing such that thing != calc2 [13:34] that's true [13:34] calc2 isn't hard [13:34] benDos: ^ [13:34] tell that to benDos [13:34] benDos: finally! someone who can help! [13:35] SIX MORE WORK DAYS! [13:36] heh [13:36] * benDos does calc2 as the level of a four year old and graph traversal like a chinese [13:36] apply graph theory to solve calc2 - problem solved [13:37] Bro [13:37] Neural network to solve integrals [13:37] done and done [13:37] Neural networks as you know work for prettty much everything [13:37] And are the optimal solution for approximately nothing [13:37] sounds like a brain to me [13:38] neural networks vary in the biological fidelity [13:38] I've written some with a neuroscientist so the software models brain activity [13:38] and others use similar concepts with no regard for how closely the model matches a brain [13:39] ugh i'm gonna miss doing research projects :/ [13:40] haha my favorite gun ban argument of all time [13:40] yesh? [13:41] "Well you see if we eleminate the demand the supply will and blackmarket will dwindle" [13:41] That's true [13:41] yeah, because only brand new guns are sold on the black market. [13:41] I mean false premise and shit [13:41] yeah tell me how well that has worked to stop prostitution [13:41] so yeah, that would dry it up. [13:41] but that statement taken as it's own is true [13:41] eliminate... the demand... for gun, power, etc? LMFAO [13:41] *its benDos [13:41] benDos: no where has that statement ever been true :P [13:42] prohibition, prostitution, drugs [13:42] Wut [13:42] Are we talking about the same quote [13:42] my powerful gun has eliminated its supply due to huge demand [13:42] yes [13:42] If you eliminate demand, markets shrink [13:42] fact of economics [13:42] so if we take colaries that have blackmarkets where we already have outlawed and "eleminated" the demand [13:42] That said [13:42] eleminate everything [13:42] Demand for drugs, guns, paying for sex, has never been addressed in law [13:42] the black markets for them thrive [13:42] Aside from putting people in jail if you get caught [13:43] That's why i said [13:43] it's true but a false premise [13:43] benDos: um yes it has for sex in some states [13:43] for sex anyway [13:43] hm? [13:43] People in Nevada all drive to henderson to get their knob slobbed? [13:43] No. [13:43] in Kansas City Kansas it is illegal to be caught trying to solicit sex [13:43] Right [13:43] as in most places [13:44] curbs demand [13:44] no eliminated [13:44] so if you are the john its outlawed [13:44] it doesnt really curb demand [13:44] the black market for it is still strong as ever [13:44] This argument is going no where [13:44] We both agree [13:44] And both are not going to bother to find facts to support out side [13:44] and now for our daily drugs / guns / political argument [13:44] Too late kyl [13:44] already quashed it [13:45] with muh logic skillz [13:45] hahahahahahahaha [13:45] benDos: not really but meh [13:45] the same logic skills that lead you to DYNAMICALLY LINK THINGS [13:45] psh [13:45] Hah [13:45] are we talking about sex? [13:45] >.> [13:45] what's this dynamically link things reference? [13:45] lteo, kyl things dynamically linking libs will shrink his peep [13:45] <-- doesn't like dynamic libs [13:45] thinks* [13:46] and bendos needs an attack ad hominem to support his argument [13:46] sharvey: not in Kansas City, we're not [13:46] * kyl shrugs [13:46] ok [13:46] kyl: so all your binaries are statically linked? [13:46] as much as i can [13:46] kusuriya, so you are going to go find a source accurately reports demand for prostitutes is unrelated to legality/ [13:46] on os x, that's not easy [13:46] just not [13:46] kyl, isn't that sop on irc [13:46] benDos: but all im saying is i love when people use that argument to espouse gun bans thinking its a magic bullet [13:46] i agree [13:46] :p [13:46] that's why i said we agree and arguing further was silly [13:48] brb though [13:49] typically, states outlaw johns and pimps and basically assume that all prostitutes are slaves [13:49] lteo, sta.li [13:49] http://sta.li rather [13:49] it's like totally not a troll distro according to kyl [13:49] instead of implementing industrial oversight, they force the market underground and put legit prostitutes in unnecessary harm [13:50] ^ [13:50] also puritan ideas about sex [13:50] that paying for sex is baaaaad [13:50] trafficone: well its 50 50 right now [13:50] half the states outlaw johns half outlaw the hoes [13:50] all outlaw the pimps [13:51] I think that that's the main reason they don't regulate the system [13:51] 'cause sex is ickypants [13:51] (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ [13:51] some states belive by removing the supply you remove the demand, and by removing the demand you remove the supply [13:51] but if you go to an area where its legal and regulated there are very few problems like reno [13:51] reno sucks for a whole host of problems but the hookers are not one of them [13:53] well, it kind of double sucks, because if youuu are a ho and you need protecction, your only option is to go with a pimp [13:53] especially because there won't be any guns with which you could protect yourself. [13:53] well, you could always keep a derringer in your pooper, but... [13:54] but that's a gun [13:54] and guns are bad [13:54] no one should be able to own a gun [13:54] guns kill people! [13:54] truth [13:54] so do pimps [13:54] like that football player who could ONLY have killed his gf with a gun! [13:54] if it comes to that [13:54] trafficone: pimps like to break legs first as a warning [13:54] dbtid: it's been scientifically proven [13:54] also large wads of meat [13:54] indimidation goes a long way [13:54] he could NEVER have used a knife (outlaw those) or a baseball bat (ban those too) or a screwdriver (ban them!!!) [13:55] or a frozen turkey [13:55] dbtid: or just beat her do death [13:55] he could never have strangled her with his HUUUUUGE football player arms (BAN FOOTBALL!) [13:55] he wouldn't have thought to use those because they are not overtly weapons [13:55] kusuriya: i was getting to that [13:55] kyl: oh, yeah. he played football so he was too stupid to think of those other things [13:55] correct [13:55] well, football does cause brain damage [13:55] plus, good citizens don't think of ordinary household items as weapons [13:56] kyl: ifs funny you say that because boxers are usually required to register their hands as lethal weapons but most are too dumb to realize it :) [13:56] kyl: we could maybe figure out how to put all the bad citizens in one place, maybe? keep them there away from all the good citizens? [13:56] kyl: what do you think? [13:56] dbtid: like a summer camp [13:56] how does one register something as a lethal weapon? [13:56] that lasts all year? [13:56] kyl: exactly [13:57] trafficone: just like you register a gun [13:57] i bet they'll find high levels of marijuhana [13:57] in his blood [13:57] i bet they find high levels of twinkies in his blood [13:57] id like to register my cock as a leathal weapon [13:57] QBIT http://youtu.be/mFDiiSqGB7M !!!!! [13:57] he was rich so he probably bought out all of them from the store before any of the poor people could [13:57] YouTube Education: "Community Ecology II: Predators - Crash Course Ecology #5" by crashcourse (10m 23s), 302 views, 98 likes and 0 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-12-04T21:11:50.000Z. [13:57] kusuriya: because people die from laughing when you pull it out? [13:58] twss [13:58] Added funny: "kusuriya: because people die from laughing when you pull it out?" [13:58] kyl: exactly [13:58] kyl: wrong.. it's so "leathal" that it kills on sight [13:59] "another girl's life, tragically cut short by a hilariously tiny penis... real shame" [14:00] "when will the littledicks learn?" [14:00] benDos: o/ [14:00] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1XpoVkZSqU&playnext=1&list=PLEA160EADAD74C535&feature=results_video [14:00] YouTube Comedy: "County Sheriff: Pilot - 1x1" by ryanthewebber (12m 9s), 267 views. Uploaded 2012-03-04T23:52:59.000Z. [14:04] one of my fav predations .. is the wasp that makes ants go really really high on trees.. [14:04] the other is the wasp that zombifies spiders [14:08] lets see if devious can save my ass again with testing :D [14:10] * qbit hits file -> save [14:11] :o [14:12] hmm does devious let normal users check mailq [14:12] well looks like it kind of does [14:15] hey brycec verizon has devio.us blacklisted [14:15] *** Gallomimia has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) [14:15] *** Gallomimia has joined #devious [14:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Gallomimia [14:21] kusuriya: that's cool [14:23] (We've jumped through their hoops before. Unfortunately, apparently our members are idiots and still send spam) [14:24] yeah doesnt suprise me [14:24] just combing through the mail queue [14:24] making sure my mail went out [14:24] yeah I know where you saw it :P [14:24] Microsoft's mail servers are not delivering external mail :D [14:25] kusuriya: I'll PM you the maillog [14:25] brycec: thanks [14:26] jrick: qbit: itunes is actually usable under os x [14:26] what's an os x? [14:26] isn't slow and shitty [14:26] qbit: says the guy using windows 8 brah [14:26] kyl: new or old itunes? [14:26] kyl: thats not a surpise [14:26] either [14:26] if i had a mac id prolly use itunes TBQH [14:26] itunes 9, 10, and 11 weren't bad [14:27] but the new interface seems to be anti-ipod [14:27] i can see jsut a giant list of songs on it [14:27] no column browser [14:27] Is itune's ui still terrible for 13k+ songs? [14:27] no [14:27] It used to lag and chew on my cpu when scrolling [14:27] i have more than that on my ipod [14:28] I have a lot of flac [14:28] And a 30gb ipod [14:28] Soo I have way less than that on my ipod [14:28] i convert flac->aac for the mac [14:28] and i don't have that much lossless [14:28] I haven't felt like converting all my flacs to mp3 for the ipod tbh [14:29] All (+/-) of my music is rips [14:29] bandcamp also lets you buy flac ++ [14:29] when i rip music, i do it on teh mac [14:29] I may have mentioned before, I only have linux desktops/laptops [14:30] And one desktop windows 7 refuses to run on, but apparently i need to try again and zero the entire disk [14:30] Cause windows 7 cares that the disk it is installed onto may have some weird bits in unallocated space :/ [14:30] bandcamp [14:30] yesh? [14:30] will AWS kill a process on your server if it takes up too much processing power? I was under the impression it just didn't have very many cycles to give [14:30] They are awesome [14:30] i need a way to put music on my spankinnewfreeipod [14:30] I <3<3<3 bandcamp [14:30] without itunes [14:30] because stabieeff itunesz [14:31] *** lwhalen has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [14:31] qbit, rockbox and it's normal usb drive access [14:31] nosir [14:31] Yessir [14:31] it's the ipod touch nano [14:31] trafficone: I've never seen that happen, and I don't think they have the ability to kill a process. However, I've seen OOM-killer many a time. [14:31] Oh. [14:31] which isn't rockboxsupported [14:31] Can you put netbsd on it? [14:31] trafficone: (see dmesg for logs of "oh god I'm out of memory, KILL KILL KILL") [14:31] * qbit installs clementine [14:31] install banshee [14:31] or whatever ubuntu's default player is [14:32] isn't that Qt dependent? [14:32] * kyl shrugs [14:32] is [14:32] * kusuriya installs banshee [14:32] because fuck you all you mono haters [14:32] <3 mono now [14:32] that keepass works on openbsd [14:32] Tbh http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/ [14:33] Rhythmbox is lovely tbh [14:33] tbhtbh [14:33] srstbh [14:33] ehhem [14:33] * qbit makes more coffee [14:33] I only stopped using it when it did funny things on remote storage that vlc happily buffers like a good program [14:33] New sets for amd64! [14:33] New sets for i386! [14:33] mcchunkie: toogle e [14:33] aw [14:34] Goosebumps. [14:35] best.. book series... ever [14:35] @lod [14:35] ಠ_ಠ [14:36] @tableflip [14:36] (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻ [14:36] ┬──┬ ¯_(ツ) [14:36] wow mcchunkie, a bit slow there... [14:36] because FUCK THIS SHIT [14:36] (4 seconds on my end) [14:36] is rhythmbox that one that comes with ubuntu? [14:36] brycec: she waits for a random amount of time [14:36] because whatever taht one is sucks pretty bad [14:36] qbit: oh that's new, nice, much better. [14:36] tonight dovecot+postfix to my server :D [14:36] kyl, i don't think so [14:36] i think you were right with banshee for that [14:37] For everyone with a .edu email and Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace [14:37] clementine is pnice [14:37] i thought it was rythm box [14:37] because ubuntu was trying to remove the mono deps [14:37] it is a fork of amarok before they went all 2.0 [14:37] amarok was good for a while too [14:37] banshee is awesome [14:38] you just have to deal with mono if youre not on windows [14:38] and GTK# [14:38] whoa clementine has google drive / sound cloud integration [14:38] which is a hot nightmare [14:38] Mono and GTK? [14:38] holy shit - and spotify [14:38] That seems redundant? [14:38] benDos: Mono does not come with a UI TK in !windows [14:38] Or does mono just use gtk to emul? [14:38] holy shitbananas, all the packages I need to build are already built and in the repos [14:38] ohh ok [14:38] it integrates with GTK# [14:39] oh man [14:39] i thought it did tbh [14:39] and grooveshark [14:39] but i never use it [14:39] so yeah [14:39] which emulates GDI and GDI+ for windows stuff [14:39] they do everything else :p [14:39] goddamn I'm now at 18.4GB of Dropbox space [14:40] ha awesome [14:40] clementine can play spotify music! [14:40] brycec why dropbox? [14:40] because? [14:40] this bitch is getting ported [14:40] Some stuff you prefer not on devious or your other servers if you have any idk? [14:40] Idk I've had no need for dropbox since scp? [14:41] * benDos also has no smartphone that only has apps, instead of rpm or debs :/ [14:41] benDos: I've had Dropbox for years... And there's no replacing its auto-sync between machines. [14:41] Dropbox isn't for everyone, but it has its uses. [14:41] * benDos shrugs [14:41] Ok [14:41] but no pandora [14:42] ERBERNTER ERN [14:42] qbit: no pithos? [14:42] don't see it anywhere [14:42] or know what it is [14:42] qbit: http://kevinmehall.net/p/pithos/ [14:42] I think it's python+gtk [14:42] kusuriya, trafficone i'll be able to find good greek food right? [14:42] so it is https://github.com/kevinmehall/pithos [14:43] benDos: not sure ive never looked for greek [14:43] Huh, ok [14:43] i hear there are some places downtown [14:43] oh nice [14:43] jesus it does podcasts too [14:43] vlc does podcasts bro [14:44] emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need. [14:44] I don't think emacs can play mkv's with 2d accel? [14:44] .addtroll emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need. [14:44] emacs+vlc is basically the only operating system you'd ever need.: was added [14:45] http://www.gnu.org/software/emms/... [14:45] Audio support : MP3, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC [14:45] Video support : MPEG, WMV, MOV, AVI, OGM, MKV, etc... [14:45] !!!!! [14:45] Wtf. [14:45] Nooo [14:46] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #devious [14:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn [14:47] benDos: if it's good gyros you want, Mr. Gyros is pretty good. If you want srs fancy greek, I can't speak past that. [14:48] I want gyros now... [14:48] OH SHIT [14:48] WAIT [14:48] I REMEMBER THIS GREAT GREEK PLACE [14:48] italian i get do [14:48] tulios is bitching [14:48] Tbh i first wanted a gyro something bad [14:48] but gyro never had em [14:49] but then i remembered all the stuff i used to get at small greek place i used to go to [14:49] there's Pete's Eggnest, which is really good for greek + breakfast grub [14:49] and had to point to the menu :/ [14:49] sweet [14:49] how about some spanakopita [14:49] and there's also Taki's Mad Greek [14:49] Guys [14:49] Guy [14:49] piroshki is an awesome food though [14:49] Don't drop it ok [14:49] emacs is a media player [14:49] seriously [14:49] i know [14:49] Fuck man. [14:49] and irc client [14:49] and email [14:49] benDos: EMACS is an OS [14:49] kusuriya: true dat, I had some piroshky today [14:49] See I knew emacs was an os [14:49] emacs is a game engine [14:50] But an os that ships with more features than windows? [14:50] emacs is not an os [14:50] emacs is also a webbrowser [14:50] emacs is a virtual machine for lisp [14:50] not clisp? [14:50] or guile? [14:50] ? [14:50] im tempted to try emacs as an IRC client [14:50] the fuck do any of those have to do with this? [14:50] kusuriya: erc [14:50] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:50] M-X erc [14:50] i thought emacs used clisp [14:51] and was eventually maybe moving to guile [14:51] for the sake for rms [14:51] ... [14:51] * benDos uses emacs 0s per year [14:51] @rms [14:51] Richard Stallman says: Restricting copying is not the only basis for business in software. It is the most common basis because it brings in the most money. If it were prohibited, or rejected by the customer, software business would move to other bases of organization which are now used less often. There are always numerous ways to... [14:51] i use it fairly often [14:51] @log_search emacs [14:51] 640 results found. Here's one at random: Feb 08, 2012 10:32:32 Chunkhost -> [Peer1 -> tinet -> seabone] -> emacsdaddy [14:52] I wish I could tell python that it's running in a headless environment, so it doesn't get sad when it can't run graphics stuff [14:53] trafficone: ? [14:53] Can you tell it to ignore a certain class of errors and filter some output to /dev/null? [14:53] kyl: for example, this one module is testing matplotlib on a headless server [14:54] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #devious [14:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn [14:54] my god - clementine has projectm in it [14:54] ,3 [14:55] trafficone, can you over right what lib it is looking for before it gets loaded and lie to it? [14:55] s/right/write [14:55] trafficone, can you over write what lib it is looking for before it gets loaded and lie to it? [14:55] Python is well aware that it's headless... [14:55] Just a matter of some modules that don't care and try and do crap (like matplotlib, I guess) [14:56] Right, so python lets you do loooots of introspection [14:56] ^ [14:56] when it loads that library [14:56] go in there muck around with some shit and lie to it [14:56] haha [14:56] that is one nice thing about python [14:56] ipython is the most compelling reason to use python [14:56] at least it doesn't test on load, so it'll just work [14:57] you could even trace or trap the class load to filter out stuff i imagine [14:58] DID YOU FILE A BUG REPORT? [14:58] python won't, however, let you monkey patch builtins [14:58] I am a respectable lady! I will not take this lying down! [14:58] rewriting your lexer and parser on the fly for an interrupted languages seems pretty painful [14:58] even for python to force on it's implementations [14:58] ruby probably lets you do stuff like that [14:58] Ruby syntax looks like someone pulled off all the symbols from their keyboard, inserted them into a shotgun and shot them into a $20 hooker that had been dead for 3 days.. [14:58] *its [15:00] https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/ [15:00] whoa [15:00] benDos: IDK who I'd even file the bug report with, there are so many modules used by this module it's just silly [15:01] once it says "requires numpy and scipy" I assume that it's maintained by a league of wizards [15:01] YER A WIZARD trafficone [15:01] BryceBot: not so loud, do you want Voldermort to hear? [15:02] hah [15:09] *** Gallomimia has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) [15:33] New packages for loongson! [15:38] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 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[18:06] *** Gallomimia has joined #devious [18:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Gallomimia [18:24] Are ecommerce sites required to track how many people open up the page with their linked terms and conditions you have to agree to? [18:36] *** zentrification has joined #devious [18:54] Soo [18:57] * zenmower is taking his bosses job [18:57] boss is leaving [18:57] * zenmower should get more money [18:59] nice o/ [18:59] upgradecomplete [18:59] Oh congrats [19:20] yeah now i have to find somebody to do my job [19:30] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #devious [19:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn [19:31] zenmower: Hire me! kthxbye! :P [19:31] Congrats zenmower [19:55] Quick question: nginx OR lighttpd? [19:55] My requirements: as lightweight as possible. I need to host only few static html files! [19:56] nginx [19:59] Ok thanks! [20:01] *** sjoos_ has joined #devious [20:06] probably you should do lighthttpd [20:06] i just no nginx [20:06] so i would use it [20:07] AmberJ_: srvwd :o [20:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAWl5peI8HY [20:07] YouTube Music: "Hayseed Dixie - Bohemian Rhapsody video (Official)" by johannespud (3m 41s), 1,239,115 views, 5,654 likes and 170 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-10-21T16:14:38.000Z. [20:16] *** sjoos_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [20:16] *** sjoos__ has joined #devious [20:22] thttpd ;) [20:26] *** AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [20:27] *** sjoos__ has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:34] use kyl's go server [20:39] lol, required by whom exactly? Did the Internet suddenly gain a law enforcement entity? 19:24:10 <+benDos> Are ecommerce sites required to track how many people open up the page with their linked terms and conditions you have to agree to? [20:39] Also nginx is now in base OpenBSD, so +1 for nginx [20:39] Then again, I <3 lighttpd [20:40] * brycec has a new chair, woo [20:40] * zenmower has a new jerb [20:40] woo [20:41] i want to get a house i can shoot out of the back door [20:41] a lot [20:46] thttpd++ [20:48] congrats, btw, zenmower [20:51] thanks [20:51] i didn't really do anything [20:51] boss decided to move on [20:52] kind of sucks i am the only dev [20:52] so imma have to find somebody [20:55] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:14] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #devious [21:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn [21:27] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [21:57] *** alexdj has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:00] *** cachopo has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [22:18] trafficone: do the twins get on here at all? [22:18] the twins [22:18] sounds ominous [22:18] yes [22:18] one is evil [22:18] one is good [22:18] though neither of them have goatees... [22:21] of course not [22:21] that's passé [22:21] and unacceptable for undercover evil twins [22:39] They've both tried mustaches... didn'g look good [22:39] sharvey: On average, once every 2 years or so :P [22:42] sharvey: In fact I barely ever hear or see either of them :/ [22:44] For being such tech-y people, they're oddly uncommunicative - no facebook, no G+, no IRC... [22:44] Oh and they never seem to have their phone [22:44] "Why don't you guys include us more." Well we do, we text and call you, but you don't answer :P [22:44] @seen FrozenDice [22:44] brycec, I last saw frozendice 118 days 7 hours 33 min 35 sec ago (Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:11:10 -0700) quitting: Ping timeout: 248 seconds. [22:44] sharvey: ^ [23:16] *** AmberJ_ has joined #devious [23:16] *** AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Changing host) [23:16] *** AmberJ_ has joined #devious [23:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v AmberJ_ [23:38] *** ld100 has joined #devious