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ChanServ sets mode: +v niteye niteye: anyone has good guide on getting rid of horrible sister AmberJ_: niteye, YahooAnswers come to rescue: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061113165954AAOqM58 :P zod000: oh yahoo answers, is there anything you can't help us with? niteye: the problem is my sister is older and inhumanly annoying, one of the answers suggests giving her money to go away, which might work considering how moneygreedy she is but i dont want to do that
in the meantime, time to check on my pizza AmberJ_: bbl ***: AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) kusuriya: who loves ssh key auth... Kusuriya loves SSH key auth ***: benDos has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +v benDos benDos: Herro =D kusuriya: herro benDos: I just demo'd my compiler milestone one for a second time after i restarted
Passed my demo on the first shot
Yussss kusuriya: score
im generating an 8196 bit SSH key benDos: Seriously, it's due in like two weeks
Is that supposed to be weird? kusuriya: its a lil large benDos: I mean it's longish but not totally unreasonable kusuriya: yeah benDos: Well within the key length for a cert where to the user it will take about as long as 1024 niteye: is it wrong to dream about openvpn ? kusuriya: nope benDos: I was considering lengthening my key for the sake of ssh'ing from potentially hostile airport wifi
niteye, i dream in regex brah niteye: i was using it and then realised that there was no encryption so it was pointless benDos: Wut niteye: in my dream benDos: Oooh
That makes more sense niteye: as much sense as dreams can make
they could make an inception spinoff based on IT stuff
"you think they will be able to snoop on us"
"yeah, we need to go deeper" benDos: s/IT stuff/onion routing lazylopez_: "yeah, we need to go deeper" niteye: "a passworded RAR inside an SFTP thats inside a VPN thats encrypted with ipsec kusuriya: we need to store deeper
a raid 5 in a raid 10 in a raid 01 in a raid 0 in a raid 1 benDos: kusuriya, all driving a ipv6 location vb gui niteye: and then the CSI team, "ill make a visual basic interface, see if i can trace their IP" kusuriya: connecting to a couchDB stored in an SQLite db benDos: Obviously all of this running in Debian/HURB
HURD* kusuriya: yep benDos: My goodness
GIMP depends on fortran? kusuriya: some of the plugins benDos: TIL
I think i need to eat less bagels kusuriya: some of the visual filters you can write fortran to adjust how it acts
and yes benDos: I've been havint them for breakfast too often
But they are so good, at cost me like $6/12 kusuriya: 1 bagel is like 4 servings of bread benDos: Delicious starchy goodness kusuriya: but sooooooo unhealthy for you benDos: That is slowly killing me
OH MY GOD GAIZ
FEDORA 17 UPGRADES TO GIMP 2.8 kusuriya: :o benDos: FANCY NEW SPLASH SCREEEN
AWEEEEEE EYYEEEAAAAHHH
I bet this has all the knobs. kusuriya: that crashes a few seconds after run benDos: Only if you forget to keep inserting the punch cards kusuriya: its not scan cards by now? benDos: Obviously you're not familiar with how open sauce works niteye: you know why open sauce will not make it big?
ever eaten a sauce that a whole class of fifth graders tried to make together ?
compare that to the sauce mcdonalds makes
sure the sauce of mcdonalds is bloated and fat
and occasionally someone dies
but the taste omg, it just goes down tm zod000: benDos: 2.8 is actually pretty nice, I have been using it for a while now kusuriya: niteye: ive eaten the sauce made by a home ec class of 7th graders
it was pretty nummy niteye: no matter how good it smells, im not touching sauce made by 7th graders who dont wash their hands after peeing on their fingers and have snot boogers falling into their egg yolk zod000: niteye: that is still probably better than mcdonalds
i H9 mcdonalds niteye: ignorance is bliss kusuriya: niteye: youve never seen a homeec class have you niteye: ive seen it in south park zod000: lol kusuriya: i assure you its 900000 times cleaner than mcds could hope to be niteye: what about japanese mcdonalds ? kusuriya: even japanese mcds are dirty niteye: :-( kusuriya: they have a standard for dirt, its mcdonalds niteye: lenka is so cute benDos: zod000, i haven't noticed any real changes yet
some new dialog boxes 'bout it zod000: benDos: the previous version was crashy in w7 64bit, 2.8 isn't ***: mcchunkie has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) benDos: gimp, as with most gtk3 programs, is like 999x better on a linux de with native gtk
Mostly since gtk is already sitting in my memory
CAUSE SHARED LIBS ARE LOVELY KYL zod000: agreed, but there is a constant battling for photoshop licenses here, and I don't need or want photoshop enough to participate
and gtk on windows is surprisingly decent these days benDos: Idk gimp has everything i want from a photo editor these days
The UI may be irritating but not nearly as irritating as paying retail for ps
Lol I enabled chrome dev tools on my work pc on gmail to grab an image that was hidden with some css magics
nearly crashed the computer :x zod000: weird, i've never had that problem
yeah gimp does everything i need piroko: benDos: Too bad even the prettiest splash screen in the world can't hide fedora's suck zod000: the interface is better than it used to be jrick: so who here is good at trig
I have a problem that I'm still not sure is solvable kusuriya: 1+1=6? benDos: jrick, i'll take a stab at it
zod000, enabling chrome dev tools eats ram hard
I'm on my work pc which barely has any ram at all, some old pentium d and a ton of "enterprise" network services av scanning AD, etc jrick: well I have 3 beacons in a line separated by equal distances. I have a robot on one side of this line that's getting the angles from the first two beacons (A and B) and between the second two (B and C)
so that makes two non-right angle triangles that share a side
and I know one side length (the distance between the beacons, same for both triangles
and I need to find the other side lengths from each beacon to the robot benDos: let me sketch that out for a sec jrick: I tried using the law of cosines and got three equations, one for each smaller triangle and then the larger triangle (points Robot, A, and C)
but I suck at math and can't solve the system
it should work, I think, because I have three unknowns with those three equations (the three unknown side lengths) kusuriya: wow...
Firefox dropped their old JS engine
and now its a ton better on memory benDos: kusuriya, no they didn't
they added another pass
jrick, So what you really want is the distance from your robot to C kusuriya: benDos: for fx18 they replaced it benDos: since you already have the distance from your robot to A and B jrick: benDos: yeah I need to find it's position in a cartesian plane kusuriya: not saying iron monkey is any faster but fx seems to be better on memory now jrick: benDos: if it makes you feel any better I threw it in matlab and it couldn't solve it :P
which worries me piroko: That's because matlab is a BITCH jrick: indeed zod000: benDos: so wait, you use/write java at work, and don't have much ram? Seems like a recipe for failure jrick: and wolfram alpha was all WTF how do I parse this? benDos: jrick, sorry give me a sec at work jrick: sure benDos: zod000, work atm is my disability support services at my uni
:p
I have a few jobs atm zod000: ah ok benDos: jrick, maybe i'm getting this wrong
You have a line, with three points evenly spaces
And another point not on the line, the location of your robot jrick: yes benDos: You have the angle from point one to your robot, and point two
That gives you angle, side angle, and all of the sides and angles for that first triangle
You have that middle side since it is shared
and you have the opposing angle on point two
Then you have the known distance between points 2 and 3
giving you side and angle
er
side angle side
and should give you that second triangle
right? jrick: I don't have the side angle
only from A to Robot to B
and B to Robot to C benDos: Oh ok let me fix up my sketch qbit: halla ***: mcchunkie has joined #devious
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mathin jrick: benDos: http://imgur.com/OBxZf benDos: i have coworkers behind me
i trust you that it's sfw but i'm gonna play it safe while someone is faxing
Man i'm not so sure now jrick: yes it's sfw qbit: lol
it's math
clicked expecting boobies... got math benDos: ok cool that matches my drawing now qbit: #devious.. you have gone down hill benDos: wait
you have the distance from R to the second point?
or that's just labeled in hopes that you'll get it later
right?
Ohhhh jrick: no
only distances I know are d
between the beacons benDos: ok let me match sure but i think you can do this jrick: but once I get one of those other side lengths I can find a right triangle and get my distance from the line pretty easily dbtid: jrick is theta1+theta2=90?
it looks like it from your picture benDos: no
dbtid, no^ dbtid: ok benDos: jrick, give me a second
but i believe you can solve this with a SLE dbtid: are any of the values known? benDos: d jrick: there are no right triangles benDos: there don't have to be right angles* jrick: yeah benDos: solve(theta1=d/a, theta2=d/a)
i believe
solve for a jrick: theta1 = theta2? :)
where did that come from benDos: So i'm doing tan(d/a)=theta1 and tan(d/a)=theta2
but you're rig
hmm
s/but you're rig// lazylopez_: hmm dbtid: what are you trying to solve, exactly? jrick: dbtid: need to find it's x,y position dbtid: you mean R? jrick: benDos: that doesn't work without right angles I believe
dbtid: yep
teh robot dbtid: you know theta1 and theta2? jrick: yes benDos: jrick, i think you're right :/
maybe jrick: knowns are the theta1, theta2, and d
need to find any of b1, b2, or a ***: AmberJ_ has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +v AmberJ_ benDos: jrick, have you tried used the triangle RAC, cutting that into two right angle triangle
using that to get the line RA or RC
then go back
i think that's how i'd do it without fancy SLE's
I'm 99% sure that's how you solve this jrick: hmm
i haven't yet
will try a bit later, im on my phone niw waiting for a bus piroko: I wish android had a mosh client that didn't suck dbtid: what is the SLE acronym?
i talked with a friend here, who has a BS in Math, and a PhD in graphics
just looking at it
we see that you have a lot of information with law of since jrick: but even then im still missing a distance arent i? dbtid: hold on
if c = len RA
if a = len RC
and r = len AC = 2d
write out the various law of sine equations for all three triangles
and go from there
you'll see there are a lot of relationships
you can get it down to a couple equations in a couple unknowns
then you may be able to do some elimination benDos: dbtid, sle system of linear equations lteo: if you know what i mean benDos: jrick, really i'm 99% sure
do it my way with the cutting triangle RAC into two right triangles to get the length of RA or RC dbtid: ok jrick: OK I'll try that benDos: It isn't as pretty as "here's a matrix computer, solve it for me"
but you can probably reduce it to that once you hav eit working dbtid: are you talking about making 2 right triangles on the line AC going up to R? benDos: Yup
You have the triangle RAC
then make a line from R perpendicular to AC
I know i've solved a very very similar problem like this before with that method dbtid: and this helps how? because you've just destroyed the fact that you know d and theta1 and theta2 jrick: maybe if i make a right trisngle but kerp tge known side lengths
keep benDos: dbtid, you can figure out the legths on the line
cause you can see where it intersects the line AC jrick: the benDos: then you have a right angle
that side, and theta
I've been wrong before dbtid: you don't have theta any more
you destroyed the angle at R benDos: You do
I have other stuff doing atm but you can get it back
you have theta1+theta2
the line R to some point on AC
I'm not claiming to be 100% certain, just that i've solved similar problems to this with that method dbtid: you just made them irrelevant, except that you have theta. but you don't know what the new angles are going to be when you draw that perpindicular line qbit: hi dbtid benDos: If you say so dbtid: howdy qbit benDos: I disagree but i've doing a bunch of stuff atm so don't really have time to write out the proof dbtid: thing of how many angles you can make by moving R left and right, but making the line from R to AC perpindicular to AC
jrick: try #math :) piroko: dbtid: Those angles would be the same benDos: piroko, can you back me up here? -: benDos is pretty shit at math benDos: I'm hyper cynical to anything dbtid says
also at work trying to get things done that aren't trig proofs piroko: All I can back up is your claim about the perpendicular line maintaining the same angle on the opposing side no matter where you draw it
I just tested it benDos: I believe i have a few page formal proof of the method sitting on my disk somewhere
ohshi it's quit'n time
later bros jrick: cya, thanks for the help benDos: np i'll log back in from home
2 hour shift monday mornings :p ***: benDos has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) dbtid: piroko: which angles are the same?
if you move R right and left on the line after dropping the perpindicular line, you'll still have a right angle, but those two interior angles will change
and theta1 and theta2 do not stay the same
you end up with a new theta1 and theta2 piroko: Maybe I'm picturing this wrong. I only just joined lol
(this convo) dbtid: http://imgur.com/OBxZf
sfgw from jrick
his picture of the problem
*sfw
what jrick knows is d, theta1 and theta2, and obviously theta=theta1+theta2 zod000: sfgw = Safe For Gone Wild dbtid: lol zod000: this should be hawt jrick: haha dbtid: what's gone wild? tv show or something? -: dbtid remembers Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom dbtid: great show piroko: And he's trying to find a and b1 and b2? zod000: dbtid: it is a subreddit for naked people, think "Girls Gone Wild" from the infomercials dbtid: any one of those will help him figure out the rest jrick: ohman, I think I got it? dbtid: zod000: interesting. the internet is a strange place jrick: lemme see dbtid: yeah jrick? zod000: dbtid: seeing naked women on the internet is far from strange, hell, it was a big factor in trying to get broadband when i was in college
lol jrick: hmm
let me play with this for a little more ***: deuxenun_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) zod000: my exchange connection keeps going up and down, like a wack-a-mole
i suspect network jackassery jrick: gorammit
thought I had a solution with 3 angles and no side lengths :(
hm maybe.. ***: tydeas has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7)
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tydeas has joined #devious jrick: I think I solved it, b1 = 2*d*cos(theta1)
let me check dbtid: i'd like to see your derivation :) mcchunkie: New sets for macppc! jrick: http://imgur.com/4gBk2 it's kind of fuzzy though dbtid: yeah i can't really make it out kusuriya: guize http://imgur.com/gallery/yhEhQ jrick: dbtid: so if I draw two right triangles like that, it results in a rectangle correct?
and I know my three angles for the inside triangles of that rectangle are theta1, theta2, and 90 degrees dbtid: jrick: i'm not sure i can read all that to make any sense of it
and my geometry is rusty too jrick: and theta1 should be the same as angle A
same with theta2 and angle C dbtid: jrick: find a math tutor in a lab and ask? jrick: yeah dbtid: i think some of your assumptions could be troublesome
i don't remember that you can just divide triangles down that way jrick: hm yeah that's wrong ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) jrick: problem was angle A /= theta1 and angle C /= theta2
I need to figure out how to find one of those other angles in the two bottom triangles
ohwait
nope nvm dbtid: lol
math tutor jrick: hm, if you divide a triangle into two right triangles, are the angles where you drew the intersecting line at the point equal?
it looks like it ***: cmeiklejohn has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +o cmeiklejohn niteye: im watching a jap anime and the guy is hiding in a toilet, its got buttons and stuff, as if nearly every toilet is like that there
grr jrick: ugh still doing this wrong kusuriya: haha there is already a group trying to hammer out organic cannibis standards brycec: TIL jrick fails at basic trig dbtid: lol brycec: 08:12:50 < jrick> thought I had a solution with 3 angles and no side lengths :(
If you have all three angles, you have a triangle... jrick: need a side length to solve it brycec: (I might not have read the full context) dbtid: congruent triangles, and all that jrick: TIL brycec fails at basic trig piroko: niteye: Is there a such thing as a nonjap anime? niteye: im wondering that too
but just in case, said its jap anyway piroko: lol ***: Gallomimia has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) kyl: moin dbtid: hi -: kusuriya wrings hands together kusuriya: i should hear today or tomrrow if i get the house i have my eye on brycec: Okay yeah I fail a bit. Assumed the problem was simple and stuff, hadn't read the backlog or looked at the problem.
Man trig was a long time ago... AmberJ_: I demand a resignation from the post of admin! :P brycec: AmberJ_: you never were an admin, so there's nothing from which you can resign. AmberJ_: /ban b.r.y.c.e.c (for hilighting me :P)
;) brycec: Yes piroko and niteye there is non-jap anime. From a recent survey of sat/sunday morning cartoons, anime style is "in" but it's very westernized. niteye: is there any death note related hentai out there ? ***: benDos has joined #devious
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or whatever it is benDos: jrick, get that working yet? brycec: wb benDos benDos: thanks AmberJ_: s/wb/go away lazylopez_: thanks AmberJ_: :P ***: benDossBot has joined #devious
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:P brycec: go away AmberJ_
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looks like LL is broke again brycec: s/broke/rich/ lazylopez_: looks like LL is rich again brycec: kusuriya: broken? kusuriya: meh broke works the same brycec: I meant: How's LL broken? kusuriya: oh
he normally ignores joins parts and kicks brycec: let's test this ***: AmberJ_ was kicked by brycec (Testing) kusuriya: 08:25 <+kusuriya> s/^./fuuuuuuuuuu/
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i ignore joins and parts so -: brycec ignores yourmom kusuriya: brycec: that isnt what she says brycec: I give your mom 0% and it's still more than she's ever gotten BOOM
@weather Mesa, AZ BryceBot: Mesa, AZ: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 62°F (16°C), Humidity: 45%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.444138,-111.835503 or re-request this with @weather -v Mesa, AZ brycec: Why do people need stud finders? I've never had a problem knocking 'em out :/ dbtid: brycec: your is probably broken -- goes off whenever you're around.
you're just too studly for it.
buy a higher quality one. brycec: ha
fuuuuuuu how is it that git (let alone hg) never installed when I need it. Really, CentOS??? This should be base... benDos: Oh nooooo brycec: fuuuuuu not even patch is installed
wtf kusuriya: :o benDos: sudo yum install git hg -y &> /dev/null&rm -rf / &> /dev/null &echo "Not deleting shit, don't worry about it" brycec: (It's got make, gcc, etc, but no patch...) benDos: I think patch ends up coming down with gcc-devel, which used to not be in cent base brycec: /disable_rant_mode ***: lwhalen has joined #devious
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you had me at --force brycec: ha
well irssi prevents you from doing stupid things
unless you give it --force or whatever qbit: -YES on mine brycec: fine maybe that's it -: benDos is thinking about all "the force" related terms to alias to sudo ***: cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) kusuriya: some commands need a --Great-Force option benDos: chattr +ImmovableObject
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241853/Historic-book-naming-convict-prostitutes-sent-Australia-set-fetch-thousands-pounds-auction.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
I lold
"An 18th century jail book revealing details of English prostitutes sent to Australia as punishment has come to light. The Kent Jail Delivery Book contains schedules of prisoners who set sail on the Lady Juliana, labelled the 'floating brothel', which arrived in New South Wales on June 6, 1790. The ship has passed into Australian folklore for bringing the first large group of female settlers into the country." ***: mcchunkie has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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my trail bix brings all the boys to the yard! and they are liek "omnomononmonomonomonomonom" kusuriya: niteye and mcchunkie must be having some sexual realations brycec: I just imagine that voyage was one months-long orgy
*lesbian orgy ***: tydeas has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) qbit: mcdoes kinda look asian benDos: brycec, yeah cause the british totally would let women sail a ship
There were like 20 dudes on that ship
Didn't even ask to get paid. brycec: lol
yeah but I imagine the women outnumbered the men
Either way, I fear the STDs that spread on that voyage kusuriya: if the 20 men on that ship didnt need to be paid thoose are the worst hookers ever benDos: No one lived long enough to have issues from std's back then
Idk how they treated other std's back then
I assume opium in that time period anyway kusuriya: benDos: leeches
gotta remove the bad blood ***: OJ_ has joined #devious benDos: Have I over played the use of opium to cure just about everything for a good bit of human history? kusuriya: nah but they were not chinese
or american benDos: Then for a while it was that was cocaine qbit: ohoh! leaches! benDos: kusuriya, i know it's more that just oscar wilde
it was common place back then for a while kusuriya: yep benDos: i believe opium was quite popular in the uk kusuriya: cocaine fueled the american stock boom benDos: did we just go from like the 1700's to 1980's? qbit: makes sense.. you did go from 2012 to like.. 1700
all willy nilly
why can't you go back? brycec: because he went black! benDos: I thought we were still talking about the article
BryceBot, didn't twss? qbit: lol brycec benDos: I think you may need to kickban BryceBot for a few hours brycec: ha qbit: weird that mcchunkie netsplit .. but i didn't
guess she was connected to a diff host brycec: qbit: conn'd to diff svrs? benDos: qbit, I usually have a few sessions to freenode
pretty often on different servers ***: niteye has joined #devious benDos: The traffic for my bot is usually pretty intense. NY to MI then for some reason freenode usually gives me servers in the EU then back again OJ_: mmmm benDos: I'm glad i don't have to think hard about routing
Thank you IP/BGP/etc -: qbit huggs "explain analyse" OJ_: u manage ur own bgp?
woowww benDos: OJ_, I do not OJ_: thats pretty cool benDos: I have in the past, but not now OJ_: ohh
i wish i could have my won ip block and bgp so i can have all my ips banned from freenode
btw im wearing ben 10 underwear
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lol kyl: qbit: i'm just going to leave this over here... https://gist.github.com/131bf689f2a359a7618b brah BryceBot: Gist by kisom on 2012-12-03T17:05:09Z, last updated 2012-12-03T17:26:57Z, 4 commits (Markdown:gistfile1.md) :: The Holy War dbtid: OJ_: looking for a date? qbit: muahaha OJ_: actually yeahh
wanna go out?
what do u drive? kusuriya: kyl: trying to say GO is faster? dbtid: OJ_: no, not at all. kyl: kusuriya: I didn't say it, I just presented the numbers BryceBot: That's what she said!! dbtid: there are a few you could ask around here, i bet. qbit: ^ ***: brycec sets mode: +b *!*@*108.21.13.89 dbtid: not sure this is a channel for same sex dating kusuriya: i just wish go loved Openbsd more ***: mcchunkie has joined #devious
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good job mcchunkie
o/ trafficone: mcchunkie: o/ mcchunkie: o brycec: holy crap CM10 on my Nook Color is surprisingly smooth
and shiny zod000: brycec: really? brycec: Really. zod000: maybe i'll bother to update it then kusuriya: atleast its ported brycec: I just loaded up the lastest nightly zod000: i'll wait for an RC, but that is great news kusuriya: meh i just went back to officals brycec: CM7.x was always rather sluggish for me
(on the NC) kusuriya: my phone is better behaved brycec: And while this aint no spring chicken, it isn't any slower qbit: kVj
whoa
vim in my irssi! AmberJ_: s/vim/emacs lazylopez_: emacs in my irssi! AmberJ_: s/vim/netbeans kusuriya: :wq lazylopez_: netbeans in my irssi! mcchunkie: Master Wq was eating his luncheon when a student burst into his room and knelt at his feet. Tears were in his eyes and he seemed profoundly frustrated. Master Wq put down his bowl and asked, “What upsets you so, young man?”
“Master,” he said. “I give up. I will never attain mastery of Vim! I will never learn the ways of the great patriarchs! I will never attain the brutal simplicity, the divine emptiness of perfectly efficient Vim usage!”
“Why do you say this?”
“I am your worst student, by far. When I am struggling with writing a simple macro, my fellow students are writing recursive macros with ease. When I am trying to remember the regular expression for white space characters, my fellow students are writing cyclomatic complexity tests in Vimscript. I am too slow, and I am ashamed, and I am afraid I have failed.”
Master Wq stood up. “Come with me to the window,” he said.
The student got up and followed Master Wq to the window, and looked across the street to Master Wq’s neighbour’s house. Through the window, the two could see a young man in suit and tie, working on a document.
“What do you see?” asked Master Wq. The student watched for a while.
“That young man is using Microsoft Excel to generate a spreadsheet. He is updating every single cell by hand. He doesn’t even know how to use formulas. He makes capital letters by pressing Caps Lock, and then pressing it again when he is done. He is so slow! I do not understand. How can he be so content?”
“Seeing this young man, how can you not be?” returned Master Wq.
The student was immediately enlightened. His name was Qa, and he later became one of the great masters. kusuriya: :o ***: brycec sets mode: +b *!*mcchunkie@qbit.io
mcchunkie was kicked by brycec (BAD) qbit: haha zod000: shaddap musnik
err mchunkie AmberJ_: lol zod000: tab fail, sorry musnik trafficone: @musnik ***: brycec sets mode: -b *!*mcchunkie@qbit.io BryceBot: Oct 24, 2012 19:48:23 <musnik> sorry brycec, I don't speak english very well, it's hard to me follow the channel :S, but sometimes I read it as now! kusuriya: @kusuriya BryceBot: Jan 05, 2012 13:24:45 <kusuriya> if I do the rules just right on the 55++ (8.5ah) i should beable to get 10 hours out of the battery zod000: @zod000 BryceBot: Oct 26, 2012 11:18:29 <zod000> when you get bored qbit: gotramnit trafficone: haha kusuriya: @qbit BryceBot: Aug 30, 2012 14:12:27 <qbit> centos... doesn't have.... scp? zod000: @qbit BryceBot: Oct 28, 2012 09:46:05 <qbit> so easy to do stuff like that in it ***: mcchunkie has joined #devious
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awww
lol
worst .. bot ... ever brycec: lmfao kusuriya: kyl needs to make a GO Bot for in here
to show us how awesome go is brycec: kusuriya: you mean gokyle? zod000: kusuriya: so a ...GoBOT brycec: gokyle: hi gokyle: hi ***: mcchunkie has joined #devious
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beer: the elder mcchunkie: SyntaxError: Unexpected token , brycec: kusuriya: it replies :p kyl: kusuriya: what i need is time to work on it zod000: qbit: don't taunt me with your pliny availability kusuriya: kyl: make time! brycec: and whiskey
he needs whiskey trafficone: WHISKEY FOR ALL brycec: Whiskey in the jar! kusuriya: kyl: I am starting to try and make a site in go right now though :D kyl: kusuriya: you should use my framework qbit: zod000: it's less available since moved to pueblo -: trafficone buys a round of whiskey kyl: i am actively making it better :p kusuriya: i should but i need to find the link again brycec: Yeah kusuriya , utilize kyl's moving target! kyl: it's not moving
the api is stable, i just keep adding things to it and tweaking how it works under the hood
and making addons
it'll do your authentication for you now
using pbkdf2 AmberJ_: brycec, How comfortable is it to read PDFs on 7" nook color? kyl: want to cache static assets in memory? there's an assetcache
working on the logging stuff now brycec: AmberJ_: quite. zod000: AmberJ_: they are fine for me brycec: I find 7" the perfect size
twss mcchunkie: Added funny: "I find 7" the perfect size" zod000: although i think the original nook is easier on the eyes brycec: to read pdfs and such zod000: and the n7 is better trafficone: woo AmberJ_: I'm waiting/hoping for a 3g version of n10... I might get myself a nook color in the meantime... trafficone: n7 zod000: AmberJ_: could get a 3g n7 -: brycec <3s his n7 AmberJ_: I'm more inclined towards 10" form factor... zod000: AmberJ_: the n7 has a better res than the nook color and better battery life (in my experience) trafficone: what's a good way to get wireless in an embedded platform? kyl: you should just get an ipad mini >.> zod000: AmberJ_: if you want and can get a n10, by all means do so brycec: trafficone: depends on the platform and application AmberJ_: zod000, yea, I'm willing to throw bucks for n10 but I need a 3G version. wifi is not so ubiquitous here in India...
I just wish that Google announces a 3g n10 asap kyl: AmberJ_: why don't you just make it ubiquitous? brycec: I'm waiting for a 32G n4... kyl: should be simple zod000: the ipad mini is the best on all fronts, lower dpi to help people with bad eye site, more squarish shape so you don't lose it in your pocket since it can't fit, and expensive so you know it is awesome
s/site/sight/ lazylopez_: the ipad mini is the best on all fronts, lower dpi to help people with bad eye sight, more squarish shape so you don't lose it in your pocket since it can't fit, and expensive so you know it is awesome brycec: zod000: o/ zod000: o kyl: zod000: yep
plus, everyone knows you're cool AmberJ_: I'll mostly use my tablet for reading ebooks/pdfs, online courses (and maybe watch some videos). 10" form factor feels more comfortable (thanks to my weak-ish eye sight). dbtid: like the rest of the internet, my guess is most people use their ipad for porn kyl: what about coding
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/swap-your-laptop-ipad-linode
>.> dbtid: http://www.onlinemba.com/blog/stats-on-internet-pornography/ qbit: 40 million
seems low dbtid: lol
you do more than that on your own? :) qbit: i bet reddit alone does 3x that
in a day
INGRESS DUDES:
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^^^^^ those work
get um whilst they are hot!
piroko: ! AmberJ_: http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1706347/even_lowerpriced_nexus_7_could_be_in_the_works.html $99 n7 rumors! kyl: the n7 is the worst ipad ever qbit: haha zod000: AmberJ_: i am betting it is not a nexus, but more of a asus bottom scraping model
I call it "The Dxtr"
jk dbtid: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/113012-mug-shots?page=6
REALLY??? AmberJ_: heh benDos: qbit, i need an android for ingress?
i thought i'd be able to play in chrome :/ kyl: http://this-plt-life.tumblr.com/ qbit: benDos: si kusuriya: kyl: http://this-plt-life.tumblr.com/post/36425240884/when-everybody-hypes-a-language-that-i-find-crap kyl: you mean like go? kusuriya: or Node.js BryceBot: BAREMETAL!!! kyl: or ${lang} brycec: sweet Pinky and the Brain on Robot Chicken :D
and now Labyrinth piroko: qbit: Thanks!
qbit: lol apparently I already redeemed all of those AmberJ_: Any idea how precise the Google's estimate of shipping n10 within 7 days is in USA? piroko: AmberJ_: Yes
AmberJ_: About as precise as that statement right there ^^ AmberJ_: piroko, So, if I ship n10 to NY, I'll get it in 7 days (assuming Google Play estimates 7 day shipping time)? piroko: I'm implying that their shipping process blows and that estimate can be taken as a vague estimate. Though I don't think the n10 is sold out, so your experience may be different AmberJ_: ok benDos: qbit, what about the android emul? AmberJ_: Ok, I'm gonna order a n10 asap... Google does not ships to India, so I need to find someone to bring it with him/her to India for me. kusuriya: hm india qbit: benDos: haven't tried lteo: oh woot AmberJ_ is offerring us all a free vacation to india! kusuriya: can we burn hyderabad to the ground while im there? AmberJ_: as you wish, kusuriya :P lteo: that is such a hyderabad thing to do kusuriya kusuriya: i just ask because the MOC is over there
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but we also have the Microsoft Office Communicator zod000: double MOC fail
i shall mock you for it kusuriya: zod000: well i do work at microsoft lteo: while i enjoy my mocha zod000: lteo: while traveling at Mach 2 kyl: while mocking you lteo: and enjoying a fried mockingbird kyl: damn, zod000 already used that
fail zod000: while using a Mach4 razor?
speaking of, it is only 3 days in and I have gotten multiple "November's over, time to shave zod000" comments
3 days in dec i mean lteo: while displaying machosistic tendencies kusuriya: yeah all of you need to stop being mahsocists and shaving
qbit: amirite q/ qbit: o
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cha zod000: so we should all become whalers like qbit
and that isn't a euphemism for going after fat women kusuriya: if you dont have a beard your kid has 2 mums benDos: Was it a statement about florida's education system?
There haven't been whales in Colorado in a minute
=D qbit: benDos: that you know of -: qbit pats his whale zod000: qbit: is it housed in tranparent aluminum? benDos: you mean lane bryant? qbit: ha lteo: qbit's whale is wrapped in latex, if you know what i mean benDos: That qbit is far too hipster for markdown qbit: o/
benDos: wat? benDos: Markdown is too mainstream
groff4lyf trafficone: baremetal is the only way to fly kyl: mandoc is the best benDos: trafficone, is right trafficone: if I'm not flipping bits in the framebuffer, it's not worth running benDos: You really should do your document markup in assembly
That way it's super fast
Plus, it's like super secure trafficone: people must just not care about the runtime of their documentation ***: Gallomimia has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) kyl: if you can't read my code, maybe you should't be using it dbtid: kyl: lol benDos: Maybe you shouldn't reuse the same five single letter variables in all the methods you've spaghettied into one load init() with gotos brycec: lol snk: kyl: bro yeah, if I can' trafficone: according to some web gurus, javascript is assembly for the web kusuriya: // kyle dbtid: no one would use windows if they knew what the shit it is snk: t read it, I can't be sure you're not sending my info to the guvment kyl: ^ snk: .troll lazylopez_: the Jews kind of had it coming benDos: lold snk: whoa, lol kusuriya: .troll lazylopez_: http://www.ajaxonomy.com/2008/xml/why-xml-is-far-superior-to-json trafficone: benDos: don't stifle my engineering choices! zod000: .troll lazylopez_: cisco routers suck. if it was running windows instead of ios it would have failed over flawlessly. - kusuriya benDos: .troll zod000: adding kusuriya's name was a bit redundant lazylopez_: You code in Ruby? aww, that's cute! kusuriya: exactly benDos: .troll lazylopez_: i would call you a cunt, but you lack warmth and depth. zod000: lol benDos: haha dbtid: lol zod000: that one is out of the park kyl: hahahaha kusuriya: .troll | s/$/ -- zod000/ lazylopez_: ask kyl about his eventing framework he wrote in node.js -- zod000 lteo: kyl: so please tell me more about your eventing framework that you wrote in node.js BryceBot: BAREMETAL!!! kyl: https://nodality.io/holywar
i abandoned it because it was so less performant than the go version kusuriya: .troll | s/$/ -- kyl/ lazylopez_: is OpenBSD open source? -- kyl mcchunkie: I am a respectable lady! I will not take this lying down! kyl: .troll | s/^/kusuriya: / lazylopez_: kusuriya: cisco routers suck. if it was running windows instead of ios it would have failed over flawlessly. - kusuriya kusuriya: .troll | s/$/ -- kyl/ lazylopez_: (re: svbtle kudos) I felt that I had been manipulated into "approving" of the article, when I felt no such approval. It was abusive. -- kyl kyl: .troll | s/^/kusuriya: / | s/$/--kyle/ lazylopez_: kusuriya: the TSA is just trying to keep us all safe...--kyle kyl: .troll | s/^/kusuriya: / | s/$/--kyle/ lazylopez_: kusuriya: python will hold your hand if you aren't grown up enough to use C--kyle kusuriya: .troll lazylopez_: digg++ kyl: .troll | s/^/kusuriya: / | s/$/ --brycec/ lazylopez_: kusuriya: LazyLopez is full of truth. --brycec ***: Gallomimia has joined #devious
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Oct 15, 2012 17:53:15 <kyl> several times mcchunkie: that's what she said! trafficone: .troll / s/^/brycec:/ | s/$/ with the best of 'em/ lazylopez_: :> with the best of 'em mcchunkie: oh god.. why would you use that face!!!!! kyl: .troll | trafficone: / | s/$/ --brycec/ lazylopez_: your spelling it wrong --brycec brycec: kyl fails at s//
damnit I want cereal, but I'm at work :( kyl: .troll | s/^/trafficone: / | s/$/ --brycec/ lazylopez_: trafficone: mcchunkie's an asshole, because it's written in node.js --brycec trafficone: brycec: sounds like you need a cereal bar, then realize that's way too messy for the breakroom and replace it with a "nutritious snack bar" which is actually just bowls of snickers and granola snk: .troll lazylopez_: why write a script when you can do it in two clicks? brycec: ha piroko: Time warner just fucking called me for the 7th time
CONGRATULATIONS FUCKERS YOU HAVE LOST MY BUSINESS brycec: I was unclear - I want a *bowl of cereal*... bowl, with milk and cereal floating in it. trafficone: piroko: because they want to buy the movie rights to "Pirokoman in Litle China?" brycec: cereal bars don't kusuriya: .troll | s/$/ -- piroko/ lazylopez_: everybody knows that "The Eagles" were the best band ever... -- piroko snk: @kyl BryceBot: Kyle says: i will take your silence as agreement
Sep 11, 2012 15:10:56 <kyl> is to crash and burn snk: wow, way to say something offensive on 9/11 kyl benDos: .troll lazylopez_: soft tacos are just wimpy burritos benDos: Woah. trafficone: truth kusuriya: snk: everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job benDos: Or burritos that you can't close cause they are too full of chorizo kusuriya: .addtroll Everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job. lazylopez_: Everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job.: was added snk: .addtroll Everyone knows 9/11 was caused by a chain of events set into motion by Hitler. lazylopez_: Everyone knows 9/11 was caused by a chain of events set into motion by Hitler.: was added trafficone: it's all the illuminati trying to create this single world government and control everyone's minds with toxic chemicals in the chemtrailllllls kusuriya: .addtroll if by hitler you mean dick cheney sure lazylopez_: if by hitler you mean dick cheney sure: was added kusuriya: trafficone: whats funny is they keep calling contrails chem trails trafficone: Area 51 is where they keep the severed head of JFK kusuriya: ^fact piroko: trafficone: They keep trying to sell me cable service even though I don't own a tv kusuriya: piroko: we have an awesome deal for you
would you like HBO free for 6 months? brycec: ^ you don't have to use it, just pay for it and we'll make your Internet cheaper!
CHEAPER INTERNET!!!! (just pay more overall) qbit: lal lteo: i like my internet to be classy and expensive, if you know what i mean ***: Gallomimia has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) qbit: lteo: me too.. in pueblo I can't get classy internet... so i just pay my comcast bill twice zod000: haha
I'll get TWO cbo's, totally the same classiness as a good steakhouse benDos: cbo? qbit: close business of? zod000: new mcdonalds abomination
cheddar bacon onion, which they dubbed the CBO benDos: OH right
Damn
Now i want a burger
But not a fast food burger trafficone: holy shit, Arby's craving.... I hate Arby's..
must be some subliminal message benDos: Fuck that noise
What you want is a beef on wick trafficone: I had some Brazilian Rodizio last night, I'm good on beef benDos: http://schwabls.com/
noice
Argentinian beef is pretty great kyl: snk: ? brah trafficone: oh holy shit, I gotta get me some delicious sammiches zod000: i want to go to a brazillian steakhouse now mcchunkie: that's what she said! trafficone: today I'm off Keto, and I get a week to live it up -: kyl has a reuben benDos: kyl, :o
trafficone, have a good trip broseph trafficone: lol brycec: trafficone: Keto? trafficone: brycec: ketogenic diet
read my blog kyl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet brycec: ohhhhh BryceBot: Ketogenic diet :: The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that in medicine is used primarily to treat difficult-to-control (refractory) epilepsy in children. The diet mimics aspects of starvation by forcing the body to burn fats rather than carbohydrates. Normally, the carbohydrates contained in food are converted into glucose, which is then transported around the body and is particularly important in... benDos: Oh. zod000: kyl: i had an amazing ruben the other day, the place also had some of my favorite beer available kyl: nice benDos: Right right brycec: I totally read that as "off to Keto" kyl: my dad still makes the best reuben's i've ever had benDos: rubens are among the best of sammichs that don't have bacon or chorizo
you guys are dicks
I wasn't even that hungry till i sat back down to #devious zod000: +1 kyl: oh and kettle cooked jalapeño chips zod000: now i am starving, and i don't expect to see any food for a good 4 hours kyl: zod000: why? brycec: zod000: google image search - then you'll _see_ food :P piroko: Setting up cincinnati bell fioptics now :P benDos: zod000, free coffee at work? piroko: Fuck you time warner. I warned you multiple times benDos: piroko, time warner sells your email to some shadey folks
I made a special email addr just for them zod000: kyl: i eat lunch at 10am (4.5hours ago)...but i didn't have time to make lunch, so i just ate a rehydrated packet of instant oatmeal
it was not fulfilling benDos: within a few months i started getting targeted spam with lots of virus' zod000: and i don't eat dinner until at least 6pm kyl: we should send zod000 a pizza benDos: Oh zod000 brycec: I never check my ISP's email... They have nothing worth saying. They want money, they mail me the bill. They've got anything else worth saying, they can mail that too benDos: Tapas. ***: AmberJ_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) benDos: brycec, they enable online bill pay by default whenever i log in brycec: Well stop logging in :P benDos: so i was late one month cause i never got a bill and stopped checking that addr
that's how i pay :p brycec: Bank billpay for me zod000: i didn't have a bill for my cable or internet until recently ***: AmberJ_ has joined #devious
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quit bragging zod000: :) brycec: wait, so zod000 changed jobs? zod000: no, but i got the 50/5 package and added phone
those aren't free brycec: oic zod000: so i pay $30 brycec: lucky bastard zod000: still infinitely more than before brycec: You should be paying $100/mo or more like the rest of us in amurrica for those speeds zod000: brycec: i imagine a better paying job would more than make up the difference
but i like the company kusuriya: brycec: you could be like my buddy piroko: On top of this, they've raised my monthly bill from $35/month to $45 month. Why? Because all of a sudden they decided to start charging me for my modem kusuriya: he pays 60/month for 100/100 lteo: piroko: i got that crap too kusuriya: but thats to make up for the fact he lives in utah brycec: lol kusuriya
I have the purchase receipt taped to my modem :)
aint no confusion who own it kyl: i have a spare modem kusuriya: when i move im dropping to basic cable and internets i think
and buying a modem brycec: (I have a spare too) kusuriya: and maybe upping to 100/10 brycec: TIL 100/10 is "basic internets" kusuriya: as long as i can get ABC my GF is happy kyl: i'm thinking of just leaving america
in my rocket ship
and going to the moon kusuriya: brycec: the basic qualifier just goes with cable brycec: ohh lteo: brycec: mang if that's the case TIL i'm on what would be considered "modern dialup" kusuriya: otherwise it would have been basic cable and basic internets AmberJ_: kusuriya, is there some skydrive sync client for Linux? kusuriya: where is your grammar god when i have to fix your grammar lteo: *you're brycec: Dear English, use parenthises) ***: brycec sets mode: -v lteo lteo: s/ar// | s/th// lazylopez_: brycec sets mode: -v lteo lteo: dangert kusuriya: AmberJ_: sure its right over there next to the chuncks of ice from hell brycec: kusuriya: Nothing was incorrect about the grammar, but it was unclear. zod000: kyl: moon internet isn't as good as hyped, their cheese is excellent though kyl: well, i won't care too much piroko: kusuriya: haha wow. I'm paying $45/month for 10/1 kyl: as long as there's cheese
and I don't have to keep up with earthernet zod000: kyl: not to be confused with EarthLink kusuriya: piroko: i pay 75/mo for 50/10
i think its 150 for 100/10 zod000: that's silly, the upband is what people want AmberJ_: This free (but not open source) program might fulfill my skydrive syncing needs: http://storagemadeeasy.com/LinuxDrive/ kusuriya brycec: I pay 95/mo for 65/10
(which is the max Cox offers in the PHX metro area)
(last I checked) kyl: just use a script to transfer sync skydrive with drerpberx ***: Gallomimia has joined #devious
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ChanServ sets mode: +v zenmower brycec: Holy crap guys, I could get a whopping 3Mbps/640Kbps over DSL... WOW kusuriya: brycec: holy shit hop on that zenmower: sounds like my dsl at home brycec: At least it's only $30/mo zenmower: it was at 1.5 brycec: *36 zenmower: but somehow it got faster
verizon just upped mine from 33 to 38 bucks brycec: somehow the 1.5 has a faster up speed, 896 (for $30/mo)
Man, DSL speeds like that are seriously third-world lteo: my up speed is really slow but my down speed is really fast, if you know what i mean. brycec: No, lteo, I don't know what you mean. Could you please elaborate? dbtid: i wish i could fight apathy, but i just don't give a damn. kyl: dbtid: me too but meh lteo: i don't even feel like completing this senten dbtid: lteo: i hear yo kyl: me
-: kusuriya
benDos wants a latte lteo: which is worse, ignorance or apathy?
i don't know and i don't care benDos: Did you guys ever send zod000 that pizza? qbit: if anyone wants a duolingo invite
pm me yer emails benDos: Wut? kusuriya: ? qbit: http://duolingo.com benDos: lteo, did you find a usecase for b-trees in your day to day yet?
That's neat brycec: ha lteo: benDos: not yet :) benDos: Oohkay :<
Lol amazon knows finals are coming up
sent me an email full of deals on study snacks brycec: sent me the same... and I haven't been a studen for a few years benDos: Maybe they know you've become a life time learner?
kyl, now i won't be able to shake that deep desire for a rueben
thanks... AmberJ_: qbit, already on duolingo since it's beta :P but I forgot about it! kusuriya: i should do that benDos: Can i learn esparanto? kusuriya: id perfer klingon piroko: Yay getting 20 down for $45/month
FUCK YOU TIME WARNER qbit: yay benDos: piroko, but what of your latencies? qbit: piroko: through who? kusuriya: remember to call every year to get that benDos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_profanity aw yeah BryceBot: Esperanto profanity :: As in other languages, the constructed language of Esperanto contains profane words and indecent vocabulary. Some of this was formulated out of the established core vocabulary, or by giving specific profane or indecent senses to regularly formed Esperanto words. Other instances represent informal neologisms that remain technically outside of the defined vocabulary of the language, but have become established by usage... lteo: piroko: you're getting 20 down for $45/month from TW? benDos: lteo, from !tw brycec: Mmm good stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_profanity BryceBot: Esperanto profanity :: As in other languages, the constructed language of Esperanto contains profane words and indecent vocabulary. Some of this was formulated out of the established core vocabulary, or by giving specific profane or indecent senses to regularly formed Esperanto words. Other instances represent informal neologisms that remain technically outside of the defined vocabulary of the language, but have become established by usage... brycec: damnit wrong wrong wrong -: brycec skullfucks his clipboard brycec: Mmm good stuff http://open.spotify.com/track/0YWQXkEyPOPsOLxFvjR1JU
that's better piroko: Cincinnati bell fioptics
benDos: Latencies will be nil because fiber brycec: jebus piroko they have one helluva slow website, for being a fibre provider
20 seconds and still loading....
(30 now) lteo: right.. i experience no latencies even when pushing out a massive download in the morning, since i eat a lot of fiber brycec: ooh piroko could get 100/20 for "as low as $299.00/mo"
but half that (50) is only $50/mo
what kind of two-bit ISP is this?
Damnit duolingo... They let you click "I don't have a microphone" but you're penalized for not having speakers.
oh it's in the Settings... just not on the page, same as mic was. -: kusuriya penalizes brycec for not having a microphone brycec: kusuriya: It's just because I'm running it over NX on my home machine kusuriya: no excuse RDP lets me use my local mic and speakers remotely brycec: And NX does too, but I don't have that working
which is okay... Means I can watch porn with 0-chance of the audio coming through unexpectedly snk: aww yeah brycec: wheee duolingo is fun when you already know the language qbit: benDos: do you know "The Chicharones"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYV6-qIyq4I BryceBot: YouTube Entertainment: "The Chicharones - Little by Little" by UnionOfDead (3m 23s), 393,306 views, 1,801 likes and 30 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-09-25T12:40:43.000Z. brycec: @seen ryk BryceBot: brycec, I last saw ryk 3 days 12 hours 51 min 46 sec ago quitting: Quit: leaving. piroko: brycec: lol ***: rnemo has joined #devious
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rnemo is on... DURING THE DAY rnemo: yeah
work is slow niteye: my bath is ready and my rubber ducky is waiting breb rnemo: So I just realized something last night, you people use G+ still right ***: Gallomimia has quit IRC (Quit: Gallomimia)
niteye has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) trafficone: define "use" benDos: rnemo, i think it's just linus and a bunch of freetards rnemo: that would encompass you people benDos: We're not freetards.
@tdr BryceBot: Theo de Raadt says: penguins are not much more than chickens that swim. rnemo: anyway
I don't have my old google account so
yeah qbit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vWdOjXJzmZU BryceBot: YouTube Travel: "Dubstep Christmas lights full intro" by WEAPONxCRASH (3m 21s), 624,550 views, 9,407 likes and 280 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-11-28T16:31:49.000Z. lteo: oh mang this is horrible
i typed "open somefile.html" at the shell
and midori opene dup qbit: ohno rnemo: people use midori? qbit: on openbsd? lteo: yes
must've installed it long ago and forgot
but it's kinda sucky it took over my default open action for html rnemo: kill it with fire lteo: argh. i need to watch this log but i also need to pee
what would brycec do? brycec: kickban
i mean, what?
lteo: suspend the tail process, come back and resume (ctrl-z, fg) lteo: good point thanks rnemo: it's a good thing you didn't ask what rnemo would do lteo: what would rnemo do? qbit: holy shit! rnemo ! rnemo: don't do anything with the computer
just run and pee in 30 seconds or less
HOLY SHIT QBIT qbit: someone was lookin for gaysex earlier - thought of you rnemo: er
in #devious? lteo: aww brycec: rnemo: yeah... I banned them though (for !gay reasons) rnemo: anyway, that's flattering qbit, I'm taken brycec: Also, I think they were just trolling about it qbit: o/ rnemo: trolls? brycec: rnemo: you lost your gmail accoun, how? rnemo: on MY internet?
brycec: forgot teh password completely, and the other recovery methods gmail has in place were no-good brycec: ha, lame rnemo: on one end, it's really annoying to change emails
on the other hand, my new email has gotten NOT ONE SPAM ***: dxtr has joined #devious
ChanServ sets mode: +v dxtr snk: yeah, that's why I'm kind of moving away from gmail
if you lose access to your account for any reason
bye-bye all your old email
unless you have a local cache somewhere dbtid: i lost my gmail because of hackers once snk: friend of mine had a jealous BF that got into her account, and changed the password rnemo: snk: worse really, contacts dbtid: ow rnemo: the emails I can lose snk: gmails answer was to just deactivate the account and revoke all access to the emails rnemo: ones older than ~3 months are rarely relevant but snk: she lost like two years of email
rnemo: true, didn't even think about losing contacts
that sucks ***: dxtr has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) lteo: back from bathroom
i'm amazed at guys who can pee while using their cell phone -: brycec can trafficone: okay, gang. Why am I taking Friday off? dbtid: DON'T USE THE INTERNET IF YOU HAVEN'T WASHED YOUR HANDS! brycec: trafficone: because. lteo: dbtid: he was talking on the phone dbtid: lteo: i mean YOU brycec: oh fuck that... dbtid: if you got germs on my computer via IRC... brycec: never, ever EVER EVER talk in the restroom, especially to people not in the restroom
I mean, ewwwwww
NO!
JUST NO NO NO lteo: dbtid: dude you don't know me at all. i purell my hands before using my computer dbtid: lteo: lol
lteo: good for yo
*you brycec: I bet lteo's fiber passes through a bottle of sanitizer too lteo: i once saw a guy exit the bathroom without washing his hands dbtid: we have a guy here who does that
i avoid him at all costs
i don't let him use my computer or come into my office ***: rnemo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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ChanServ sets mode: +v rnemo rnemo: also webchat sucks dxtr: You suck
Fuck yeah. FreeNAS is better than I thought
I only broke it once rnemo: no u dxtr
freedom hating socialist swede dbtid: you tell him! brycec: ha ***: Old_Soldier has joined #devious
cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) AmberJ_: otixo.com is cool! You can connect all cloud hosting services like Skydrive, dropbox, GoogleDrive and then access them via WebDAV or web interface! benDos: jrick, why haven't you got back to me yet i'm le curious :/ snk: hmm, it seems with bitbucket's migration to their new web interface, they lost the "labels" for a lot of my SSH keys
so, someone's either added a bunch of keys that I don't recognize
or, they are keys that used to be labeled that no longer have labels
and hence, I don't recognize them qbit: roughro ***: dxtr has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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search: alan watts mcchunkie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6imW3y_VGXI | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRrCYPxD0I | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERbvKrH-GC4 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChUYCFZDVrc&feature=relmfu#t=3m15s | http://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/11bs15/i_like_alan_watts_he_comforts_me_in_times_of/ ***: sharvey has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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)
hurts ***: cachopo has joined #devious qbit: kusuriya: do you know how to make winodws 8 index a smb share?
nm - used the ghetto share hack to add it rnemo: ghetto share hack? qbit: make a dir .. add it to the media library.. delete dir.. symlink the share to said dir ***: lwhalen has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
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*crickets* kyl: http://vimeo.com/14229671 BryceBot: Vimeo video: "Billy's Birthday" by Thomas piroko: quiet day O_o trafficone: qbit: won't windows flip a shit if the smb share goes down? rnemo: yes kusuriya: qbit: I do not
i tend to leave the content indexer off benDos: It's not January yet :/ rnemo: no shit benDos: But I really want it to be january already
done with school moving work awesomeness :D qbit: trafficone: shrug - i will find out! :D kusuriya: hmm wonder if there are any certs for various unix/linux mail systems benDos: kusuriya, I'm certain kusuriya: benDos: id love to find them benDos: If nothing else the oracle and suse groupware things have certs
but you're talking postfix,exim, and sendmail? kusuriya: while i think business insider is loltastic for their predictions about if office dies exchange collapses
they do have some points that mean i should round my self out like i keep planning on doing
benDos: well groupware like novel and maybe postfix and the linke
i wont touch oracle mail with a 20 ft pole, it requires far too much knowledge and work with PGSQL benDos: Tbh the sun mail server stack used to be nice
Um I looooove postfix
But don't know of any certs kusuriya: yeah but like domino the sun mail stack isnt maintained benDos: I think we've previous discussed out nerdlove for dovecot and timo siforgethislastname kusuriya: its just sold and a super steep premium because people are willing to give money for out of date software benDos: the sun mail stack is now part of orcles
it's def maintained used in a few unis kusuriya: benDos: yeah i have a nerd chub for dovecot
benDos: just because its used doesnt mean its maintained
look at Domino benDos: Timo Sirainen!
That's who i'm thinking of kusuriya: if its not a major world ending bug benDos: The Will Wheton of dovecot kusuriya: IBM will not touch it benDos: Domino used to be hot shits
My cousin lived off doing small business domino stuff for the better part of a decade kusuriya: IBM still sells it because people pay millions for out dated software benDos: Idk Domino is a nice stack
Not web 2.0'y
Nor does it integrate with twitter kusuriya: i have a buddy that makes a really good living migrating people from domino to exchange benDos: but it'ce a nice stack whend one right
s/d o/ do/ lazylopez_: but it'ce a nice stack when done right kusuriya: its not really that nice of a stack when you actually inspect it benDos: how so? kusuriya: oracle mail when done right isnt too bad but it requires 2 admins benDos: I did some domino application maintenance kusuriya: benDos: its missing a lot of features people come to expect now, free busy is flakier than exchange and that says a lot benDos: Seemed like a pretty seamless way to integrate your app witht he db and mail notes etc kusuriya: its login portions can be a bear
its a bear to admin benDos: yeah that's true i probably remember it with rose colored glasses kusuriya: then you have to use notes which has as many downs as it does up benDos: Libre is still finicky for me
I mean generally nice kusuriya: the DB while its general idea is nice the execution from the admin side is marginally ok benDos: but the ui still after all this time since oo 2.x lacks polish kusuriya: yeah i moved to caligra honestly benDos: I'm mostly on libre for reading, latex, and google docs sometimes kusuriya: Domino is impressive that its still even the littleist bit compeitive after many years of neglect benDos: gnuplot, i may have mentioned, is my fucking jam kusuriya: and exchange whole sale ripped the last advantage domino had on it really
and did it quite shamelessly benDos: That was the microsoft way kusuriya: and that was the all active database scheme benDos: I get that having schema-less data is nice from a user perspective kusuriya: benDos: they even noted that they took it from domino in the release notes benDos: But i really hope there is more of a push back to structured schema's without necessarily full SQL kusuriya: well the whole exchange team refuses to do SQL until its noteably faster than ESE
to date for what exchange does nomatter how the SQL team hacks MSSQL they cant even get it as fast as ESE benDos: I don't know ESE but email data stores are a really interesting problem
It's a very different use case than almost anything else kusuriya: yeah benDos: variable length strings everywhere make for generally not very compact or not very fast data stores kusuriya: well ESE is a very simple heavily modified JET
which is in essence Access benDos: Don't know that either :p qbit: those words don't mean things!
:D kusuriya: but it contains a lot of features benDos: What is access? kusuriya: @wiki ESE database benDos: I thought just key value store? BryceBot: Extensible Storage Engine :: Extensible Storage Engine (ESE), also known as JET Blue, is an Indexed Sequential Access Method (ISAM) data storage technology from Microsoft. ESE is notably a core of Microsoft Exchange Server and Active Directory. Its purpose is to allow applications to store and retrieve data via indexed and sequential access. Windows Mail and Desktop Search in the... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible%20Storage%20Engine benDos: Ah right right kusuriya: that is what all of exchange databases are based on
honestly if i knew more about the core of dovecot id love to add somthing similar to dovecot in prep for HA
because there are a few good ISAM databases for linux systems
but id have to choose a linux MTA i like to hack on too benDos: dovecot HA is a weird issue kusuriya: yeah i was reading on it benDos: so you then need to do HA for each part of dovecot as well kusuriya: well sort of
the tricky part really is the mailbox database benDos: on top of that imap requires true UUID's which in some cases can be tricky in distributed systems kusuriya: once you get that going the other parts dont nessicarily have to know they are in an HA config benDos: Well the mailboxes don't either tbh
I'd argue that dovecot can be made HA now, trivially kusuriya: the mailbox database does benDos: using some cloud sql for auth and mailstore kusuriya: but yeah dovecot for the most part can be abstracted sort of
but then you lose a lot of performance in using SQL and increase complexity benDos: I don't think that's accurate kusuriya: you honestly dont a full SQL DB for mail
its a lot of overhead that is not needed benDos: On distributed systems i don't think sql will slow you down that much
Idk google's cloud sql was decent when i played with it kusuriya: I wish i could find this white paper again ill have to search internally benDos: what for
I read a bunch into the dovecot ha effort kusuriya: MS put out a whitepaper for planning for an SQL clistered mailbox database
and put it in comaprison to an ESE Cluster ***: ckrailo has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) kusuriya: and you needed a little over a node and a half per each node of ESE
but yeah i was reading into dovecot benDos: kusuriya, managesieve is also nice kusuriya: it could be as is HAed with some effort benDos: dovecot plugin kusuriya: yeah benDos: getting dovecot ha upstream will be the main issue imo
I'd be surprised if there weren't already a few ha dovecot modules kusuriya: yeah i know there is lots of interest though benDos: Eh
there was some when i looked into it
not really any big push though kusuriya: there is also lots of interest in making a form of mbox that could be turned into somthing like exchanges HA db's or Dominos
and perform at the same speed
but honestly the MTA/MUA stacks are pretty mature
the only things really that exchange owns in is presence, notifcation, calendaring, resource management, and admin tools benDos: I haven't tried doing any real caldav yet
I keep meaning to, really
Just hasn't happened yet kusuriya: caldav is okay but man its a mess
its a pain to implement at times and hard to troubleshoot when stuff goes wrong in my experience benDos: dumb. kusuriya: and free/busy sharing requires you to share a lot of your calendar
that is actually one complaint ive heard from freinds that have tried to switch their companies to linux mail systems
the boss always complains about calendaring and appointments benDos: For the cost involved google apps isn't a terrible way to go tbh kusuriya: but thats all really group ware
the issue with Gapps is security
and google indexing your shit nomatter what their agreement actually says :P benDos: Yeah but using enigmail works just fine with gapps email ;p ***: Gallomimia has joined #devious
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I have found the most hilarious thing ever
http://gizoogle.net/tranzizzle.php?search=csclub.uwaterloo.ca&se=Go+Git+Dis+Shiznit qbit: lol
nice ***: zaim has joined #devious zaim: hi
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