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   niteye: anyone has good guide on getting rid of horrible sister
   AmberJ_: niteye, YahooAnswers come to rescue: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061113165954AAOqM58 :P
   zod000: oh yahoo answers, is there anything you can't help us with?
   niteye: the problem is my sister is older and inhumanly annoying, one of the answers suggests giving her money to go away, which might work considering how moneygreedy she is but i dont want to do that
   
 in the meantime, time to check on my pizza
   AmberJ_: bbl
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   kusuriya: who loves ssh key auth... Kusuriya loves SSH key auth
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   benDos: Herro =D
   kusuriya: herro
   benDos: I just demo'd my compiler milestone one for a second time after i restarted
   
 Passed my demo on the first shot
   
 Yussss
   kusuriya: score
   
 im generating an 8196 bit SSH key
   benDos: Seriously, it's due in like two weeks
   
 Is that supposed to be weird?
   kusuriya: its a lil large
   benDos: I mean it's longish but not totally unreasonable
   kusuriya: yeah
   benDos: Well within the key length for a cert where to the user it will take about as long as 1024
   niteye: is it wrong to dream about openvpn ?
   kusuriya: nope
   benDos: I was considering lengthening my key for the sake of ssh'ing from potentially hostile airport wifi
   
 niteye, i dream in regex brah
   niteye: i was using it and then realised that there was no encryption so it was pointless
   benDos: Wut
   niteye: in my dream
   benDos: Oooh
   
 That makes more sense
   niteye: as much sense as dreams can make
   
 they could make an inception spinoff based on IT stuff
   
 "you think they will be able to snoop on us"
   
 "yeah, we need to go deeper"
   benDos: s/IT stuff/onion routing
   lazylopez_: "yeah, we need to go deeper"
   niteye: "a passworded RAR inside an SFTP thats inside a VPN thats encrypted with ipsec
   kusuriya: we need to store deeper
   
 a raid 5 in a raid 10 in a raid 01 in a raid 0 in a raid 1
   benDos: kusuriya, all driving a ipv6 location vb gui
   niteye: and then the CSI team, "ill make a visual basic interface, see if i can trace their IP"
   kusuriya: connecting to a couchDB stored in an SQLite db
   benDos: Obviously all of this running in Debian/HURB
   
 HURD*
   kusuriya: yep
   benDos: My goodness
   
 GIMP depends on fortran?
   kusuriya: some of the plugins
   benDos: TIL
   
 I think i need to eat less bagels
   kusuriya: some of the visual filters you can write fortran to adjust how it acts
   
 and yes
   benDos: I've been havint them for breakfast too often
   
 But they are so good, at cost me like $6/12
   kusuriya: 1 bagel is like 4 servings of bread
   benDos: Delicious starchy goodness
   kusuriya: but sooooooo unhealthy for you
   benDos: That is slowly killing me
   
 OH MY GOD GAIZ
   
 FEDORA 17 UPGRADES TO GIMP 2.8
   kusuriya: :o
   benDos: FANCY NEW SPLASH SCREEEN
   
 AWEEEEEE EYYEEEAAAAHHH
   
 I bet this has all the knobs.
   kusuriya: that crashes a few seconds after run
   benDos: Only if you forget to keep inserting the punch cards
   kusuriya: its not scan cards by now?
   benDos: Obviously you're not familiar with how open sauce works
   niteye: you know why open sauce will not make it big?
   
 ever eaten a sauce that a whole class of fifth graders tried to make together ?
   
 compare that to the sauce mcdonalds makes
   
 sure the sauce of mcdonalds is bloated and fat
   
 and occasionally someone dies
   
 but the taste omg, it just goes down tm
   zod000: benDos: 2.8 is actually pretty nice, I have been using it for a while now
   kusuriya: niteye: ive eaten the sauce made by a home ec class of 7th graders
   
 it was pretty nummy
   niteye: no matter how good it smells, im not touching sauce made by 7th graders who dont wash their hands after peeing on their fingers and have snot boogers falling into their egg yolk
   zod000: niteye: that is still probably better than mcdonalds
   
 i H9 mcdonalds
   niteye: ignorance is bliss
   kusuriya: niteye: youve never seen a homeec class have you
   niteye: ive seen it in south park
   zod000: lol
   kusuriya: i assure you its 900000 times cleaner than mcds could hope to be
   niteye: what about japanese mcdonalds ?
   kusuriya: even japanese mcds are dirty
   niteye: :-(
   kusuriya: they have a standard for dirt, its mcdonalds
   niteye: lenka is so cute
   benDos: zod000, i haven't noticed any real changes yet
   
 some new dialog boxes 'bout it
   zod000: benDos: the previous version was crashy in w7 64bit, 2.8 isn't
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   benDos: gimp, as with most gtk3 programs, is like 999x better on a linux de with native gtk
   
 Mostly since gtk is already sitting in my memory
   
 CAUSE SHARED LIBS ARE LOVELY KYL
   zod000: agreed, but there is a constant battling for photoshop licenses here, and I don't need or want photoshop enough to participate
   
 and gtk on windows is surprisingly decent these days
   benDos: Idk gimp has everything i want from a photo editor these days
   
 The UI may be irritating but not nearly as irritating as paying retail for ps
   
 Lol I enabled chrome dev tools on my work pc on gmail to grab an image that was hidden with some css magics
   
 nearly crashed the computer :x
   zod000: weird, i've never had that problem
   
 yeah gimp does everything i need
   piroko: benDos: Too bad even the prettiest splash screen in the world can't hide fedora's suck
   zod000: the interface is better than it used to be
   jrick: so who here is good at trig
   
 I have a problem that I'm still not sure is solvable
   kusuriya: 1+1=6?
   benDos: jrick, i'll take a stab at it
   
 zod000, enabling chrome dev tools eats ram hard
   
 I'm on my work pc which barely has any ram at all, some old pentium d and a ton of "enterprise" network services av scanning AD, etc
   jrick: well I have 3 beacons in a line separated by equal distances. I have a robot on one side of this line that's getting the angles from the first two beacons (A and B) and between the second two (B and C)
   
 so that makes two non-right angle triangles that share a side
   
 and I know one side length (the distance between the beacons, same for both triangles
   
 and I need to find the other side lengths from each beacon to the robot
   benDos: let me sketch that out for a sec
   jrick: I tried using the law of cosines and got three equations, one for each smaller triangle and then the larger triangle (points Robot, A, and C)
   
 but I suck at math and can't solve the system
   
 it should work, I think, because I have three unknowns with those three equations (the three unknown side lengths)
   kusuriya: wow...
   
 Firefox dropped their old JS engine
   
 and now its a ton better on memory
   benDos: kusuriya, no they didn't
   
 they added another pass
   
 jrick, So what you really want is the distance from your robot to C
   kusuriya: benDos: for fx18 they replaced it
   benDos: since you already have the distance from your robot to A and B
   jrick: benDos: yeah I need to find it's position in a cartesian plane
   kusuriya: not saying iron monkey is any faster but fx seems to be better on memory now
   jrick: benDos: if it makes you feel any better I threw it in matlab and it couldn't solve it :P
   
 which worries me
   piroko: That's because matlab is a BITCH
   jrick: indeed
   zod000: benDos: so wait, you use/write java at work, and don't have much ram?  Seems like a recipe for failure
   jrick: and wolfram alpha was all WTF how do I parse this?
   benDos: jrick, sorry give me a sec at work
   jrick: sure
   benDos: zod000, work atm is my disability support services at my uni
   
 :p
   
 I have a few jobs atm
   zod000: ah ok
   benDos: jrick, maybe i'm getting this wrong
   
 You have a line, with three points evenly spaces
   
 And another point not on the line, the location of your robot
   jrick: yes
   benDos: You have the angle from point one to your robot, and point two
   
 That gives you angle, side angle, and all of the sides and angles for that first triangle
   
 You have that middle side since it is shared
   
 and you have the opposing angle on point two
   
 Then you have the known distance between points 2 and 3
   
 giving you side and angle
   
 er
   
 side angle side
   
 and should give you that second triangle
   
 right?
   jrick: I don't have the side angle
   
 only from A to Robot to B
   
 and B to Robot to C
   benDos: Oh ok let me fix up my sketch
   qbit: halla
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   qbit: ohno
   
 mathin
   jrick: benDos: http://imgur.com/OBxZf
   benDos: i have coworkers behind me
   
 i trust you that it's sfw but i'm gonna play it safe while someone is faxing
   
 Man i'm not so sure now
   jrick: yes it's sfw
   qbit: lol
   
 it's math
   
 clicked expecting boobies... got math
   benDos: ok cool that matches my drawing now
   qbit: #devious.. you have gone down hill
   benDos: wait
   
 you have the distance from R to the second point?
   
 or that's just labeled in hopes that you'll get it later
   
 right?
   
 Ohhhh
   jrick: no
   
 only distances I know are d
   
 between the beacons
   benDos: ok let me match sure but i think you can do this
   jrick: but once I get one of those other side lengths I can find a right triangle and get my distance from the line pretty easily
   dbtid: jrick is theta1+theta2=90?
   
 it looks like it from your picture
   benDos: no
   
 dbtid, no^
   dbtid: ok
   benDos: jrick, give me a second
   
 but i believe you can solve this with a SLE
   dbtid: are any of the values known?
   benDos: d
   jrick: there are no right triangles
   benDos: there don't have to be right angles*
   jrick: yeah
   benDos: solve(theta1=d/a, theta2=d/a)
   
 i believe
   
 solve for a
   jrick: theta1 = theta2? :)
   
 where did that come from
   benDos: So i'm doing tan(d/a)=theta1 and tan(d/a)=theta2
   
 but you're rig
   
 hmm
   
 s/but you're rig//
   lazylopez_: hmm
   dbtid: what are you trying to solve, exactly?
   jrick: dbtid: need to find it's x,y position
   dbtid: you mean R?
   jrick: benDos: that doesn't work without right angles I believe
   
 dbtid: yep
   
 teh robot
   dbtid: you know theta1 and theta2?
   jrick: yes
   benDos: jrick, i think you're right :/
   
 maybe
   jrick: knowns are the theta1, theta2, and d
   
 need to find any of b1, b2, or a
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   benDos: jrick, have you tried used the triangle RAC, cutting that into two right angle triangle
   
 using that to get the line RA or RC
   
 then go back
   
 i think that's how i'd do it without fancy SLE's
   
 I'm 99% sure that's how you solve this
   jrick: hmm
   
 i haven't yet
   
 will try a bit later, im on my phone niw waiting for a bus
   piroko: I wish android had a mosh client that didn't suck
   dbtid: what is the SLE acronym?
   
 i talked with a friend here, who has a BS in Math, and a PhD in graphics
   
 just looking at it
   
 we see that you have a lot of information with law of since
   jrick: but even then im still missing a distance arent i?
   dbtid: hold on
   
 if c = len RA
   
 if a = len RC
   
 and r = len AC = 2d
   
 write out the various law of sine equations for all three triangles
   
 and go from there
   
 you'll see there are a lot of relationships
   
 you can get it down to a couple equations in a couple unknowns
   
 then you may be able to do some elimination
   benDos: dbtid, sle system of linear equations
   lteo: if you know what i mean
   benDos: jrick, really i'm 99% sure
   
 do it my way with the cutting triangle RAC into two right triangles to get the length of RA or RC
   dbtid: ok
   jrick: OK I'll try that
   benDos: It isn't as pretty as "here's a matrix computer, solve it for me"
   
 but you can probably reduce it to that once you hav eit working
   dbtid: are you talking about making 2 right triangles on the line AC going up to R?
   benDos: Yup
   
 You have the triangle RAC
   
 then make a line from R perpendicular to AC
   
 I know i've solved a very very similar problem like this before with that method
   dbtid: and this helps how?  because you've just destroyed the fact that you know d and theta1 and theta2
   jrick: maybe if i make a right trisngle but kerp tge known side lengths
   
 keep
   benDos: dbtid, you can figure out the legths on the line
   
 cause you can see where it intersects the line AC
   jrick: the
   benDos: then you have a right angle
   
 that side, and theta
   
 I've been wrong before
   dbtid: you don't have theta any more
   
 you destroyed the angle at R
   benDos: You do
   
 I have other stuff doing atm but you can get it back
   
 you have theta1+theta2
   
 the line R to some point on AC
   
 I'm not claiming to be 100% certain, just that i've solved similar problems to this with that method
   dbtid: you just made them irrelevant, except that you have theta.  but you don't know what the new angles are going to be when you draw that perpindicular line
   qbit: hi dbtid
   benDos: If you say so
   dbtid: howdy qbit
   benDos: I disagree but i've doing a bunch of stuff atm so don't really have time to write out the proof
   dbtid: thing of how many angles you can make by moving R left and right, but making the line from R to AC perpindicular to AC
   
 jrick: try #math :)
   piroko: dbtid: Those angles would be the same
   benDos: piroko, can you back me up here?
   -: benDos is pretty shit at math
   benDos: I'm hyper cynical to anything dbtid says
   
 also at work trying to get things done that aren't trig proofs
   piroko: All I can back up is your claim about the perpendicular line maintaining the same angle on the opposing side no matter where you draw it
   
 I just tested it
   benDos: I believe i have a few page formal proof of the method sitting on my disk somewhere
   
 ohshi it's quit'n time
   
 later bros
   jrick: cya, thanks for the help
   benDos: np i'll log back in from home
   
 2 hour shift monday mornings :p
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   dbtid: piroko: which angles are the same?
   
 if you move R right and left on the line after dropping the perpindicular line, you'll still have a right angle, but those two interior angles will change
   
 and theta1 and theta2 do not stay the same
   
 you end up with a new theta1 and theta2
   piroko: Maybe I'm picturing this wrong. I only just joined lol
   
 (this convo)
   dbtid: http://imgur.com/OBxZf
   
 sfgw from jrick
   
 his picture of the problem
   
 *sfw
   
 what jrick knows is d, theta1 and theta2, and obviously theta=theta1+theta2
   zod000: sfgw = Safe For Gone Wild
   dbtid: lol
   zod000: this should be hawt
   jrick: haha
   dbtid: what's gone wild?  tv show or something?
   -: dbtid remembers Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom
   dbtid: great show
   piroko: And he's trying to find a and b1 and b2?
   zod000: dbtid: it is a subreddit for naked people, think "Girls Gone Wild" from the infomercials
   dbtid: any one of those will help him figure out the rest
   jrick: ohman, I think I got it?
   dbtid: zod000: interesting.  the internet is a strange place
   jrick: lemme see
   dbtid: yeah jrick?
   zod000: dbtid: seeing naked women on the internet is far from strange, hell, it was a big factor in trying to get broadband when i was in college
   
 lol
   jrick: hmm
   
 let me play with this for a little more
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   zod000: my exchange connection keeps going up and down, like a wack-a-mole
   
 i suspect network jackassery
   jrick: gorammit
   
 thought I had a solution with 3 angles and no side lengths :(
   
 hm maybe..
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   jrick: I think I solved it, b1 = 2*d*cos(theta1)
   
 let me check
   dbtid: i'd like to see your derivation :)
   mcchunkie: New sets for macppc!
   jrick: http://imgur.com/4gBk2 it's kind of fuzzy though
   dbtid: yeah i can't really make it out
   kusuriya: guize http://imgur.com/gallery/yhEhQ
   jrick: dbtid: so if I draw two right triangles like that, it results in a rectangle correct?
   
 and I know my three angles for the inside triangles of that rectangle are theta1, theta2, and 90 degrees
   dbtid: jrick: i'm not sure i can read all that to make any sense of it
   
 and my geometry is rusty too
   jrick: and theta1 should be the same as angle A
   
 same with theta2 and angle C
   dbtid: jrick: find a math tutor in a lab and ask?
   jrick: yeah
   dbtid: i think some of your assumptions could be troublesome
   
 i don't remember that you can just divide triangles down that way
   jrick: hm yeah that's wrong
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   jrick: problem was angle A /= theta1 and angle C /= theta2
   
 I need to figure out how to find one of those other angles in the two bottom triangles
   
 ohwait
   
 nope nvm
   dbtid: lol
   
 math tutor
   jrick: hm, if you divide a triangle into two right triangles, are the angles where you drew the intersecting line at the point equal?
   
 it looks like it
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   niteye: im watching a jap anime and the guy is hiding in a toilet, its got buttons and stuff, as if nearly every toilet is like that there
   
 grr
   jrick: ugh still doing this wrong
   kusuriya: haha there is already a group trying to hammer out organic cannibis standards
   brycec: TIL jrick fails at basic trig
   dbtid: lol
   brycec: 08:12:50 < jrick> thought I had a solution with 3 angles and no side lengths :(
   
 If you have all three angles, you have a triangle...
   jrick: need a side length to solve it
   brycec: (I might not have read the full context)
   dbtid: congruent triangles, and all that
   jrick: TIL brycec fails at basic trig
   piroko: niteye: Is there a such thing as a nonjap anime?
   niteye: im wondering that too
   
 but just in case, said its jap anyway
   piroko: lol
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   kyl: moin
   dbtid: hi
   -: kusuriya wrings hands together
   kusuriya: i should hear today or tomrrow if i get the house i have my eye on
   brycec: Okay yeah I fail a bit. Assumed the problem was simple and stuff, hadn't read the backlog or looked at the problem.
   
 Man trig was a long time ago...
   AmberJ_: I demand a resignation from the post of admin! :P
   brycec: AmberJ_: you never were an admin, so there's nothing from which you can resign.
   AmberJ_: /ban b.r.y.c.e.c (for hilighting me :P)
   
 ;)
   brycec: Yes piroko and niteye there is non-jap anime. From a recent survey of sat/sunday morning cartoons, anime style is "in" but it's very westernized.
   niteye: is there any death note related hentai out there ?
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   benDos: backish
   brycec: niteye: see: rule34.net
   
 or whatever it is
   benDos: jrick, get that working yet?
   brycec: wb benDos
   benDos: thanks
   AmberJ_: s/wb/go away
   lazylopez_: thanks
   AmberJ_: :P
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   benDossBot: Hai benDos =D
   brycec: wb benDossBot
   benDossBot: Thanks brycec
   AmberJ_: go away benDossBot
   
 :P
   brycec: go away AmberJ_
   
 :)
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   kusuriya: :P
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   kusuriya: :D
   
 looks like LL is broke again
   brycec: s/broke/rich/
   lazylopez_: looks like LL is rich again
   brycec: kusuriya: broken?
   kusuriya: meh broke works the same
   brycec: I meant: How's LL broken?
   kusuriya: oh
   
 he normally ignores joins parts and kicks
   brycec: let's test this
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   kusuriya: 08:25 <+kusuriya> s/^./fuuuuuuuuuu/
   
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   brycec: s/.*/boobs/
   lazylopez_: boobsboobs
   brycec: damnit
   kusuriya: :P
   benDos: benDossBot, isn't broken...
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   brycec: s/^./fuuuuuuuuuu/
   lazylopez_: fuuuuuuuuuuenDossBot, isn't broken...
   brycec: still ignores kicks anyways
   kusuriya: hm
   
 i ignore joins and parts so
   -: brycec ignores yourmom
   kusuriya: brycec: that isnt what she says
   brycec: I give your mom 0% and it's still more than she's ever gotten BOOM
   
 @weather Mesa, AZ
   BryceBot: Mesa, AZ: Mostly Cloudy ☁ 62°F (16°C), Humidity: 45%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.444138,-111.835503 or re-request this with @weather -v Mesa, AZ
   brycec: Why do people need stud finders? I've never had a problem knocking 'em out :/
   dbtid: brycec: your is probably broken -- goes off whenever you're around.
   
 you're just too studly for it.
   
 buy a higher quality one.
   brycec: ha
   
 fuuuuuuu how is it that git (let alone hg) never installed when I need it. Really, CentOS??? This should be base...
   benDos: Oh nooooo
   brycec: fuuuuuu not even patch is installed
   
 wtf
   kusuriya: :o
   benDos: sudo yum install git hg -y &> /dev/null&rm -rf / &> /dev/null &echo "Not deleting shit, don't worry about it"
   brycec: (It's got make, gcc, etc, but no patch...)
   benDos: I think patch ends up coming down with gcc-devel, which used to not be in cent base
   brycec: /disable_rant_mode
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   lteo: this is why i think the way linux breaks up packages is more painful than useful
   kusuriya: <engage_brycec_super_rant_mode>
   brycec: /kickban --force *
   qbit: lol
   
 you had me at --force
   brycec: ha
   
 well irssi prevents you from doing stupid things
   
 unless you give it --force or whatever
   qbit: -YES on mine
   brycec: fine maybe that's it
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   kusuriya: some commands need a --Great-Force option
   benDos: chattr +ImmovableObject
   
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241853/Historic-book-naming-convict-prostitutes-sent-Australia-set-fetch-thousands-pounds-auction.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
   
 I lold
   
 "An 18th century jail book revealing details of English prostitutes sent to Australia as punishment has come to light. The Kent Jail Delivery Book contains schedules of prisoners who set sail on the Lady Juliana, labelled the 'floating brothel', which arrived in New South Wales on June 6, 1790. The ship has passed into Australian folklore for bringing the first large group of female settlers into the country."
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   brycec: haha
   qbit: aw
   
 my trail bix brings all the boys to the yard! and they are liek "omnomononmonomonomonomonom"
   kusuriya: niteye and mcchunkie must be having some sexual realations
   brycec: I just imagine that voyage was one months-long orgy
   
 *lesbian orgy
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   qbit: mcdoes kinda look asian
   benDos: brycec, yeah cause the british totally would let women sail a ship
   
 There were like 20 dudes on that ship
   
 Didn't even ask to get paid.
   brycec: lol
   
 yeah but I imagine the women outnumbered the men
   
 Either way, I fear the STDs that spread on that voyage
   kusuriya: if the 20 men on that ship didnt need to be paid thoose are the worst hookers ever
   benDos: No one lived long enough to have issues from std's back then
   
 Idk how they treated other std's back then
   
 I assume opium in that time period anyway
   kusuriya: benDos: leeches
   
 gotta remove the bad blood
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   benDos: Have I over played the use of opium to cure just about everything for a good bit of human history?
   kusuriya: nah but they were not chinese
   
 or american
   benDos: Then for a while it was that was cocaine
   qbit: ohoh! leaches!
   benDos: kusuriya, i know it's more that just oscar wilde
   
 it was common place back then for a while
   kusuriya: yep
   benDos: i believe opium was quite popular in the uk
   kusuriya: cocaine fueled the american stock boom
   benDos: did we just go from like the 1700's to 1980's?
   qbit: makes sense.. you did go from 2012 to like.. 1700
   
 all willy nilly
   
 why can't you go back?
   brycec: because he went black!
   benDos: I thought we were still talking about the article
   
 BryceBot, didn't twss?
   qbit: lol brycec
   benDos: I think you may need to kickban BryceBot for a few hours
   brycec: ha
   qbit: weird that mcchunkie netsplit .. but i didn't
   
 guess she was connected to a diff host
   brycec: qbit: conn'd to diff svrs?
   benDos: qbit, I usually have a few sessions to freenode
   
 pretty often on different servers
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   benDos: The traffic for my bot is usually pretty intense.  NY to MI then for some reason freenode usually gives me servers in the EU then back again
   OJ_: mmmm
   benDos: I'm glad i don't have to think hard about routing
   
 Thank you IP/BGP/etc
   -: qbit huggs "explain analyse"
   OJ_: u manage ur own bgp?
   
 woowww
   benDos: OJ_, I do not
   OJ_: thats pretty cool
   benDos: I have in the past, but not now
   OJ_: ohh
   
 i wish i could have my won ip block and bgp so i can have all my ips banned from freenode
   
 btw im wearing ben 10 underwear
   
 lowl
   -: kusuriya blinks
   qbit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_1tzzEQ3DM
   BryceBot: YouTube Music: "CHVRCHES // The Mother We Share // Live" by detourscotland (3m 19s), 9,378 views, 146 likes and 2 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-10-28T16:18:11.000Z.
   qbit: <3 chvrches
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   AmberJ_: evil brycec :(
   kusuriya: plop plop fizz fizz
   
 oh what a relif it is
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   OJ_: !whos a faggot
   
 ups sorry wrong channel
   
 lol
   kyl: qbit: i'm just going to leave this over here... https://gist.github.com/131bf689f2a359a7618b brah
   BryceBot: Gist by kisom on 2012-12-03T17:05:09Z, last updated 2012-12-03T17:26:57Z, 4 commits (Markdown:gistfile1.md) :: The Holy War
   dbtid: OJ_: looking for a date?
   qbit: muahaha
   OJ_: actually yeahh
   
 wanna go out?
   
 what do u drive?
   kusuriya: kyl: trying to say GO is faster?
   dbtid: OJ_: no, not at all.
   kyl: kusuriya: I didn't say it, I just presented the numbers
   BryceBot: That's what she said!!
   dbtid: there are a few you could ask around here, i bet.
   qbit: ^
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   dbtid: not sure this is a channel for same sex dating
   kusuriya: i just wish go loved Openbsd more
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   lazylopez_: *JOINS: mcchunkie ( mcchunkie!~mcchunkie@qbit.io )
   brycec: dagnabbit lazylopez_
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   qbit: lol
   
 good job mcchunkie
   
 o/
   trafficone: mcchunkie: o/
   mcchunkie: o
   brycec: holy crap CM10 on my Nook Color is surprisingly smooth
   
 and shiny
   zod000: brycec: really?
   brycec: Really.
   zod000: maybe i'll bother to update it then
   kusuriya: atleast its ported
   brycec: I just loaded up the lastest nightly
   zod000: i'll wait for an RC, but that is great news
   kusuriya: meh i just went back to officals
   brycec: CM7.x was always rather sluggish for me
   
 (on the NC)
   kusuriya: my phone is better behaved
   brycec: And while this aint no spring chicken, it isn't any slower
   qbit: kVj
   
 whoa
   
 vim in my irssi!
   AmberJ_: s/vim/emacs
   lazylopez_: emacs in my irssi!
   AmberJ_: s/vim/netbeans
   kusuriya: :wq
   lazylopez_: netbeans in my irssi!
   mcchunkie: Master Wq was eating his luncheon when a student burst into his room and knelt at his feet. Tears were in his eyes and he seemed profoundly frustrated. Master Wq put down his bowl and asked, “What upsets you so, young man?”
   
 “Master,” he said. “I give up. I will never attain mastery of Vim! I will never learn the ways of the great patriarchs! I will never attain the brutal simplicity, the divine emptiness of perfectly efficient Vim usage!”
   
 “Why do you say this?”
   
 “I am your worst student, by far. When I am struggling with writing a simple macro, my fellow students are writing recursive macros with ease. When I am trying to remember the regular expression for white space characters, my fellow students are writing cyclomatic complexity tests in Vimscript. I am too slow, and I am ashamed, and I am afraid I have failed.”
   
 Master Wq stood up. “Come with me to the window,” he said.
   
 The student got up and followed Master Wq to the window, and looked across the street to Master Wq’s neighbour’s house. Through the window, the two could see a young man in suit and tie, working on a document.
   
 “What do you see?” asked Master Wq. The student watched for a while.
   
 “That young man is using Microsoft Excel to generate a spreadsheet. He is updating every single cell by hand. He doesn’t even know how to use formulas. He makes capital letters by pressing Caps Lock, and then pressing it again when he is done. He is so slow! I do not understand. How can he be so content?”
   
 “Seeing this young man, how can you not be?” returned Master Wq.
   
 The student was immediately enlightened. His name was Qa, and he later became one of the great masters.
   kusuriya: :o
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   qbit: haha
   zod000: shaddap musnik
   
 err mchunkie
   AmberJ_: lol
   zod000: tab fail, sorry musnik
   trafficone: @musnik
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   BryceBot: Oct 24, 2012 19:48:23 <musnik> sorry brycec, I don't speak english very well, it's hard to me follow the channel :S, but sometimes I read it as now!
   kusuriya: @kusuriya
   BryceBot: Jan 05, 2012 13:24:45 <kusuriya> if I do the rules just right on the 55++ (8.5ah) i should beable to get 10 hours out of the battery
   zod000: @zod000
   BryceBot: Oct 26, 2012 11:18:29 <zod000> when you get bored
   qbit: gotramnit
   trafficone: haha
   kusuriya: @qbit
   BryceBot: Aug 30, 2012 14:12:27 <qbit> centos... doesn't have.... scp?
   zod000: @qbit
   BryceBot: Oct 28, 2012 09:46:05 <qbit> so easy to do stuff like that in it
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   qbit: o/
   
 awww
   
 lol
   
 worst .. bot ... ever
   brycec: lmfao
   kusuriya: kyl needs to make a GO Bot for in here
   
 to show us how awesome go is
   brycec: kusuriya: you mean gokyle?
   zod000: kusuriya: so a ...GoBOT
   brycec: gokyle: hi
   gokyle: hi
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   qbit: a
   
 b
   
 c
   
 d
   
 e
   kusuriya: brycec: one that does somthing
   qbit: f
   
 beer: the elder
   mcchunkie: SyntaxError: Unexpected token ,
   brycec: kusuriya: it replies :p
   kyl: kusuriya: what i need is time to work on it
   zod000: qbit: don't taunt me with your pliny availability
   kusuriya: kyl: make time!
   brycec: and whiskey
   
 he needs whiskey
   trafficone: WHISKEY FOR ALL
   brycec: Whiskey in the jar!
   kusuriya: kyl: I am starting to try and make a site in go right now though :D
   kyl: kusuriya: you should use my framework
   qbit: zod000: it's less available since moved to pueblo
   -: trafficone buys a round of whiskey
   kyl: i am actively making it better :p
   kusuriya: i should but i need to find the link again
   brycec: Yeah kusuriya , utilize kyl's moving target!
   kyl: it's not moving
   
 the api is stable, i just keep adding things to it and tweaking how it works under the hood
   
 and making addons
   
 it'll do your authentication for you now
   
 using pbkdf2
   AmberJ_: brycec, How comfortable is it to read PDFs on 7" nook color?
   kyl: want to cache static assets in memory? there's an assetcache
   
 working on the logging stuff now
   brycec: AmberJ_: quite.
   zod000: AmberJ_: they are fine for me
   brycec: I find 7" the perfect size
   
 twss
   mcchunkie: Added funny: "I find 7" the perfect size"
   zod000: although i think the original nook is easier on the eyes
   brycec: to read pdfs and such
   zod000: and the n7 is better
   trafficone: woo
   AmberJ_: I'm waiting/hoping for a 3g version of n10... I might get myself a nook color in the meantime...
   trafficone: n7
   zod000: AmberJ_: could get a 3g n7
   -: brycec <3s his n7
   AmberJ_: I'm more inclined towards 10" form factor...
   zod000: AmberJ_: the n7 has a better res than the nook color and better battery life (in my experience)
   trafficone: what's a good way to get wireless in an embedded platform?
   kyl: you should just get an ipad mini >.>
   zod000: AmberJ_: if you want and can get a n10, by all means do so
   brycec: trafficone: depends on the platform and application
   AmberJ_: zod000, yea, I'm willing to throw bucks for n10 but I need a 3G version. wifi is not so ubiquitous here in India...
   
 I just wish that Google announces a 3g n10 asap
   kyl: AmberJ_: why don't you just make it ubiquitous?
   brycec: I'm waiting for a 32G n4...
   kyl: should be simple
   zod000: the ipad mini is the best on all fronts, lower dpi to help people with bad eye site, more squarish shape so you don't lose it in your pocket since it can't fit, and expensive so you know it is awesome
   
 s/site/sight/
   lazylopez_: the ipad mini is the best on all fronts, lower dpi to help people with bad eye sight, more squarish shape so you don't lose it in your pocket since it can't fit, and expensive so you know it is awesome
   brycec: zod000: o/
   zod000: o
   kyl: zod000: yep
   
 plus, everyone knows you're cool
   AmberJ_: I'll mostly use my tablet for reading ebooks/pdfs, online courses (and maybe watch some videos). 10" form factor feels more comfortable (thanks to my weak-ish eye sight).
   dbtid: like the rest of the internet, my guess is most people use their ipad for porn
   kyl: what about coding
   
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/swap-your-laptop-ipad-linode
   
 >.>
   dbtid: http://www.onlinemba.com/blog/stats-on-internet-pornography/
   qbit: 40 million
   
 seems low
   dbtid: lol
   
 you do more than that on your own? :)
   qbit: i bet reddit alone does 3x that
   
 in a day
   
 INGRESS DUDES:
   
 5qc4murderp3x4y
   
 4rh6conflicts3z4x
   
 7zh3ezekielq3t7w
   
 ^^^^^ those work
   
 get um whilst they are hot!
   
 piroko: !
   AmberJ_: http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/1706347/even_lowerpriced_nexus_7_could_be_in_the_works.html $99 n7 rumors!
   kyl: the n7 is the worst ipad ever
   qbit: haha
   zod000: AmberJ_: i am betting it is not a nexus, but more of a asus bottom scraping model
   
 I call it "The Dxtr"
   
 jk
   dbtid: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/113012-mug-shots?page=6
   
 REALLY???
   AmberJ_: heh
   benDos: qbit, i need an android for ingress?
   
 i thought i'd be able to play in chrome :/
   kyl: http://this-plt-life.tumblr.com/
   qbit: benDos: si
   kusuriya: kyl: http://this-plt-life.tumblr.com/post/36425240884/when-everybody-hypes-a-language-that-i-find-crap
   kyl: you mean like go?
   kusuriya: or Node.js
   BryceBot: BAREMETAL!!!
   kyl: or ${lang}
   brycec: sweet Pinky and the Brain on Robot Chicken :D
   
 and now Labyrinth
   piroko: qbit: Thanks!
   
 qbit: lol apparently I already redeemed all of those
   AmberJ_: Any idea how precise the Google's estimate of shipping n10 within 7 days is in USA?
   piroko: AmberJ_: Yes
   
 AmberJ_: About as precise as that statement right there ^^
   AmberJ_: piroko, So, if I ship n10 to NY, I'll get it in 7 days (assuming Google Play estimates 7 day shipping time)?
   piroko: I'm implying that their shipping process blows and that estimate can be taken as a vague estimate. Though I don't think the n10 is sold out, so your experience may be different
   AmberJ_: ok
   benDos: qbit, what about the android emul?
   AmberJ_: Ok, I'm gonna order a n10 asap... Google does not ships to India, so I need to find someone to bring it with him/her to India for me.
   kusuriya: hm india
   qbit: benDos: haven't tried
   lteo: oh woot AmberJ_ is offerring us all a free vacation to india!
   kusuriya: can we burn hyderabad to the ground while im there?
   AmberJ_: as you wish, kusuriya :P
   lteo: that is such a hyderabad thing to do kusuriya
   kusuriya: i just ask because the MOC is over there
   
 and they are terrible
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   qbit: benDos: i know that some peeps were using a hacked rom to set their location.. they have since been banned
   kyl: kusuriya: the microsoft office communicator?
   qbit: do you have an invite?
   zod000: kyl: yes, MOC is bad
   kusuriya: kyl: Microsoft Operation Center
   
 but we also have the Microsoft Office Communicator
   zod000: double MOC fail
   
 i shall mock you for it
   kusuriya: zod000: well i do work at microsoft
   lteo: while i enjoy my mocha
   zod000: lteo: while traveling at Mach 2
   kyl: while mocking you
   lteo: and enjoying a fried mockingbird
   kyl: damn, zod000 already used that
   
 fail
   zod000: while using a Mach4 razor?
   
 speaking of, it is only 3 days in and I have gotten multiple "November's over, time to shave zod000" comments
   
 3 days in dec i mean
   lteo: while displaying machosistic tendencies
   kusuriya: yeah all of you need to stop being mahsocists and shaving
   
 qbit: amirite q/
   qbit: o
   
 er
   
 q
   
 cha
   zod000: so we should all become whalers like qbit
   
 and that isn't a euphemism for going after fat women
   kusuriya: if you dont have a beard your kid has 2 mums
   benDos: Was it a statement about florida's education system?
   
 There haven't been whales in Colorado in a minute
   
 =D
   qbit: benDos: that you know of
   -: qbit pats his whale
   zod000: qbit: is it housed in tranparent aluminum?
   benDos: you mean lane bryant?
   qbit: ha
   lteo: qbit's whale is wrapped in latex, if you know what i mean
   benDos: That qbit is far too hipster for markdown
   qbit: o/
   
 benDos: wat?
   benDos: Markdown is too mainstream
   
 groff4lyf
   trafficone: baremetal is the only way to fly
   kyl: mandoc is the best
   benDos: trafficone, is right
   trafficone: if I'm not flipping bits in the framebuffer, it's not worth running
   benDos: You really should do your document markup in assembly
   
 That way it's super fast
   
 Plus, it's like super secure
   trafficone: people must just not care about the  runtime of their documentation
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   kyl: if you can't read my code, maybe you should't be using it
   dbtid: kyl: lol
   benDos: Maybe you shouldn't reuse the same five single letter variables in all the methods you've spaghettied into one load init() with gotos
   brycec: lol
   snk: kyl: bro yeah, if I can'
   trafficone: according to some web gurus, javascript is assembly for the web
   kusuriya: // kyle
   dbtid: no one would use windows if they knew what the shit it is
   snk: t read it, I can't be sure you're not sending my info to the guvment
   kyl: ^
   snk: .troll
   lazylopez_: the Jews kind of had it coming
   benDos: lold
   snk: whoa, lol
   kusuriya: .troll
   lazylopez_: http://www.ajaxonomy.com/2008/xml/why-xml-is-far-superior-to-json
   trafficone: benDos: don't stifle my engineering choices!
   zod000: .troll
   lazylopez_: cisco routers suck. if it was running windows instead of ios it would have failed over flawlessly. - kusuriya
   benDos: .troll
   zod000: adding kusuriya's name was a bit redundant
   lazylopez_: You code in Ruby? aww, that's cute!
   kusuriya: exactly
   benDos: .troll
   lazylopez_: i would call you a cunt, but you lack warmth and depth.
   zod000: lol
   benDos: haha
   dbtid: lol
   zod000: that one is out of the park
   kyl: hahahaha
   kusuriya: .troll | s/$/ -- zod000/
   lazylopez_: ask kyl about his eventing framework he wrote in node.js -- zod000
   lteo: kyl: so please tell me more about your eventing framework that you wrote in node.js
   BryceBot: BAREMETAL!!!
   kyl: https://nodality.io/holywar
   
 i abandoned it because it was so less performant than the go version
   kusuriya: .troll | s/$/ -- kyl/
   lazylopez_: is OpenBSD open source? -- kyl
   mcchunkie: I am a respectable lady! I will not take this lying down!
   kyl: .troll | s/^/kusuriya: /
   lazylopez_: kusuriya: cisco routers suck. if it was running windows instead of ios it would have failed over flawlessly. - kusuriya
   kusuriya: .troll | s/$/ -- kyl/
   lazylopez_: (re: svbtle kudos) I felt that I had been manipulated into "approving" of the article, when I felt no such approval. It was abusive. -- kyl
   kyl: .troll | s/^/kusuriya: / | s/$/--kyle/
   lazylopez_: kusuriya: the TSA is just trying to keep us all safe...--kyle
   kyl: .troll | s/^/kusuriya: / | s/$/--kyle/
   lazylopez_: kusuriya: python will hold your hand if you aren't grown up enough to use C--kyle
   kusuriya: .troll
   lazylopez_: digg++
   kyl: .troll | s/^/kusuriya: / | s/$/ --brycec/
   lazylopez_: kusuriya: LazyLopez is full of truth. --brycec
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   trafficone: @kyl
   brycec: o_o
   BryceBot: Kyle says: who is ron swanson
   
 Oct 15, 2012 17:53:15 <kyl> several times
   mcchunkie: that's what she said!
   trafficone: .troll / s/^/brycec:/ | s/$/ with the best of 'em/
   lazylopez_: :> with the best of 'em
   mcchunkie: oh god.. why would you use that face!!!!!
   kyl: .troll | trafficone: / | s/$/ --brycec/
   lazylopez_: your spelling it wrong --brycec
   brycec: kyl fails at s//
   
 damnit I want cereal, but I'm at work :(
   kyl: .troll | s/^/trafficone: / | s/$/ --brycec/
   lazylopez_: trafficone: mcchunkie's an asshole, because it's written in node.js --brycec
   trafficone: brycec: sounds like you need a cereal bar, then realize that's way too messy for the breakroom and replace it with a "nutritious snack bar" which is actually just bowls of snickers and granola
   snk: .troll
   lazylopez_: why write a script when you can do it in two clicks?
   brycec: ha
   piroko: Time warner just fucking called me for the 7th time
   
 CONGRATULATIONS FUCKERS YOU HAVE LOST MY BUSINESS
   brycec: I was unclear - I want a *bowl of cereal*... bowl, with milk and cereal floating in it.
   trafficone: piroko: because they want to buy the movie rights to "Pirokoman in Litle China?"
   brycec: cereal bars don't
   kusuriya: .troll | s/$/ -- piroko/
   lazylopez_: everybody knows that "The Eagles" were the best band ever... -- piroko
   snk: @kyl
   BryceBot: Kyle says: i will take your silence as agreement
   
 Sep 11, 2012 15:10:56 <kyl> is to crash and burn
   snk: wow, way to say something offensive on 9/11 kyl
   benDos: .troll
   lazylopez_: soft tacos are just wimpy burritos
   benDos: Woah.
   trafficone: truth
   kusuriya: snk: everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job
   benDos: Or burritos that you can't close cause they are too full of chorizo
   kusuriya: .addtroll Everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job.
   lazylopez_: Everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job.: was added
   snk: .addtroll Everyone knows 9/11 was caused by a chain of events set into motion by Hitler.
   lazylopez_: Everyone knows 9/11 was caused by a chain of events set into motion by Hitler.: was added
   trafficone: it's all the illuminati trying to create this single world government and control everyone's minds with toxic chemicals in the chemtrailllllls
   kusuriya: .addtroll if by hitler you mean dick cheney sure
   lazylopez_: if by hitler you mean dick cheney sure: was added
   kusuriya: trafficone: whats funny is they keep calling contrails chem trails
   trafficone: Area 51 is where they keep the severed head of JFK
   kusuriya: ^fact
   piroko: trafficone: They keep trying to sell me cable service even though I don't own a tv
   kusuriya: piroko: we have an awesome deal for you
   
 would you like HBO free for 6 months?
   brycec: ^ you don't have to use it, just pay for it and we'll make your Internet cheaper!
   
 CHEAPER INTERNET!!!! (just pay more overall)
   qbit: lal
   lteo: i like my internet to be classy and expensive, if you know what i mean
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   qbit: lteo: me too.. in pueblo I can't get classy internet... so i just pay my comcast bill twice
   zod000: haha
   
 I'll get TWO cbo's, totally the same classiness as a good steakhouse
   benDos: cbo?
   qbit: close business of?
   zod000: new mcdonalds abomination
   
 cheddar bacon onion, which they dubbed the CBO
   benDos: OH right
   
 Damn
   
 Now i want a burger
   
 But not a fast food burger
   trafficone: holy shit, Arby's craving.... I hate Arby's..
   
 must be some subliminal message
   benDos: Fuck that noise
   
 What you want is a beef on wick
   trafficone: I had some Brazilian Rodizio last night, I'm good on beef
   benDos: http://schwabls.com/
   
 noice
   
 Argentinian beef is pretty great
   kyl: snk: ? brah
   trafficone: oh holy shit, I gotta get me some delicious sammiches
   zod000: i want to go to a brazillian steakhouse now
   mcchunkie: that's what she said!
   trafficone: today I'm off Keto, and I get a week to live it up
   -: kyl has a reuben
   benDos: kyl, :o
   
 trafficone, have a good trip broseph
   trafficone: lol
   brycec: trafficone: Keto?
   trafficone: brycec: ketogenic diet
   
 read my blog
   kyl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet
   brycec: ohhhhh
   BryceBot: Ketogenic diet :: The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that in medicine is used primarily to treat difficult-to-control (refractory) epilepsy in children. The diet mimics aspects of starvation by forcing the body to burn fats rather than carbohydrates. Normally, the carbohydrates contained in food are converted into glucose, which is then transported around the body and is particularly important in...
   benDos: Oh.
   zod000: kyl: i had an amazing ruben the other day, the place also had some of my favorite beer available
   kyl: nice
   benDos: Right right
   brycec: I totally read that as "off to Keto"
   kyl: my dad still makes the best reuben's i've ever had
   benDos: rubens are among the best of sammichs that don't have bacon or chorizo
   
 you guys are dicks
   
 I wasn't even that hungry till i sat back down to #devious
   zod000: +1
   kyl: oh and kettle cooked jalapeño chips
   zod000: now i am starving, and i don't expect to see any food for a good 4 hours
   kyl: zod000: why?
   brycec: zod000: google image search - then you'll _see_ food :P
   piroko: Setting up cincinnati bell fioptics now :P
   benDos: zod000, free coffee at work?
   piroko: Fuck you time warner. I warned you multiple times
   benDos: piroko, time warner sells your email to some shadey folks
   
 I made a special email addr just for them
   zod000: kyl: i eat lunch at 10am (4.5hours ago)...but i didn't have time to make lunch, so i just ate a rehydrated packet of instant oatmeal
   
 it was not fulfilling
   benDos: within a few months i started getting targeted spam with lots of virus'
   zod000: and i don't eat dinner until at least 6pm
   kyl: we should send zod000 a pizza
   benDos: Oh zod000
   brycec: I never check my ISP's email... They have nothing worth saying. They want money, they mail me the bill. They've got anything else worth saying, they can mail that too
   benDos: Tapas.
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   benDos: brycec, they enable online bill pay by default whenever i log in
   brycec: Well stop logging in :P
   benDos: so i was late one month cause i never got a bill and stopped checking that addr
   
 that's how i pay :p
   brycec: Bank billpay for me
   zod000: i didn't have a bill for my cable or internet until recently
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   zod000: it sucks having to pay now
   brycec: lol zod000
   
 quit bragging
   zod000: :)
   brycec: wait, so zod000 changed jobs?
   zod000: no, but i got the 50/5 package and added phone
   
 those aren't free
   brycec: oic
   zod000: so i pay $30
   brycec: lucky bastard
   zod000: still infinitely more than before
   brycec: You should be paying $100/mo or more like the rest of us in amurrica for those speeds
   zod000: brycec: i imagine a better paying job would more than make up the difference
   
 but i like the company
   kusuriya: brycec: you could be like my buddy
   piroko: On top of this, they've raised my monthly bill from $35/month to $45 month. Why? Because all of a sudden they decided to start charging me for my modem
   kusuriya: he pays 60/month for 100/100
   lteo: piroko: i got that crap too
   kusuriya: but thats to make up for the fact he lives in utah
   brycec: lol kusuriya
   
 I have the purchase receipt taped to my modem :)
   
 aint no confusion who own it
   kyl: i have a spare modem
   kusuriya: when i move im dropping to basic cable and internets i think
   
 and buying a modem
   brycec: (I have a spare too)
   kusuriya: and maybe upping to 100/10
   brycec: TIL 100/10 is "basic internets"
   kusuriya: as long as i can get ABC my GF is happy
   kyl: i'm thinking of just leaving america
   
 in my rocket ship
   
 and going to the moon
   kusuriya: brycec: the basic qualifier just goes with cable
   brycec: ohh
   lteo: brycec: mang if that's the case TIL i'm on what would be considered "modern dialup"
   kusuriya: otherwise it would have been basic cable and basic internets
   AmberJ_: kusuriya, is there some skydrive sync client for Linux?
   kusuriya: where is your grammar god when i have to fix your grammar
   lteo: *you're
   brycec: Dear English, use parenthises)
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   lteo: s/ar// | s/th//
   lazylopez_: brycec sets mode: -v lteo
   lteo: dangert
   kusuriya: AmberJ_: sure its right over there next to the chuncks of ice from hell
   brycec: kusuriya: Nothing was incorrect about the grammar, but it was unclear.
   zod000: kyl: moon internet isn't as good as hyped, their cheese is excellent though
   kyl: well, i won't care too much
   piroko: kusuriya: haha wow. I'm paying $45/month for 10/1
   kyl: as long as there's cheese
   
 and I don't have to keep up with earthernet
   zod000: kyl: not to be confused with EarthLink
   kusuriya: piroko: i pay 75/mo for 50/10
   
 i think its 150 for 100/10
   zod000: that's silly, the upband is what people want
   AmberJ_: This free (but not open source) program might fulfill my skydrive syncing needs: http://storagemadeeasy.com/LinuxDrive/ kusuriya
   brycec: I pay 95/mo for 65/10
   
 (which is the max Cox offers in the PHX metro area)
   
 (last I checked)
   kyl: just use a script to transfer sync skydrive with drerpberx
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   AmberJ_: kyl, but I have 50GB free on skydrive for lifetime (and dropbox provides only 8GB free)
   -: kyl shrugs
   brycec: (damnit Cox now only lists "Ultimate" to be 50. Oh well, I'm still getting 65. http://ww2.cox.com/residential/arizona/internet/ultimate-internet.cox)
   AmberJ_: s/shrugs/says sorry
   lazylopez_: (damnit Cox now only lists "Ultimate" to be 50. Oh well, I'm still getting 65. http://ww2.cox.com/residential/arizona/internet/ultimate-internet.cox)
   AmberJ_: dammit brycec
   brycec: That'll show you AmberJ_, trying to put words in kyl's mouth
   mcchunkie: twss!
   kyl: http://vimeo.com/19464611
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   brycec: Holy crap guys, I could get a whopping 3Mbps/640Kbps over DSL... WOW
   kusuriya: brycec: holy shit hop on that
   zenmower: sounds like my dsl at home
   brycec: At least it's only $30/mo
   zenmower: it was at 1.5
   brycec: *36
   zenmower: but somehow it got faster
   
 verizon just upped mine from 33 to 38 bucks
   brycec: somehow the 1.5 has a faster up speed, 896 (for $30/mo)
   
 Man, DSL speeds like that are seriously third-world
   lteo: my up speed is really slow but my down speed is really fast, if you know what i mean.
   brycec: No, lteo, I don't know what you mean. Could you please elaborate?
   dbtid: i wish i could fight apathy, but i just don't give a damn.
   kyl: dbtid: me too but meh
   lteo: i don't even feel like completing this senten
   dbtid: lteo: i hear yo
   kyl: me
   
 
   -: kusuriya
   
 benDos wants a latte
   lteo: which is worse, ignorance or apathy?
   
 i don't know and i don't care
   benDos: Did you guys ever send zod000 that pizza?
   qbit: if anyone wants a duolingo invite
   
 pm me yer emails
   benDos: Wut?
   kusuriya: ?
   qbit: http://duolingo.com
   benDos: lteo, did you find a usecase for b-trees in your day to day yet?
   
 That's neat
   brycec: ha
   lteo: benDos: not yet :)
   benDos: Oohkay :<
   
 Lol amazon knows finals are coming up
   
 sent me an email full of deals on study snacks
   brycec: sent me the same... and I haven't been a studen for a few years
   benDos: Maybe they know you've become a life time learner?
   
 kyl, now i won't be able to shake that deep desire for a rueben
   
 thanks...
   AmberJ_: qbit, already on duolingo since it's beta :P but I forgot about it!
   kusuriya: i should do that
   benDos: Can i learn esparanto?
   kusuriya: id perfer klingon
   piroko: Yay getting 20 down for $45/month
   
 FUCK YOU TIME WARNER
   qbit: yay
   benDos: piroko, but what of your latencies?
   qbit: piroko: through who?
   kusuriya: remember to call every year to get that
   benDos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_profanity aw  yeah
   BryceBot: Esperanto profanity :: As in other languages, the constructed language of Esperanto contains profane words and indecent vocabulary. Some of this was formulated out of the established core vocabulary, or by giving specific profane or indecent senses to regularly formed Esperanto words. Other instances represent informal neologisms that remain technically outside of the defined vocabulary of the language, but have become established by usage...
   lteo: piroko: you're getting 20 down for $45/month from TW?
   benDos: lteo, from !tw
   brycec: Mmm good stuff  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_profanity
   BryceBot: Esperanto profanity :: As in other languages, the constructed language of Esperanto contains profane words and indecent vocabulary. Some of this was formulated out of the established core vocabulary, or by giving specific profane or indecent senses to regularly formed Esperanto words. Other instances represent informal neologisms that remain technically outside of the defined vocabulary of the language, but have become established by usage...
   brycec: damnit wrong wrong wrong
   -: brycec skullfucks his clipboard
   brycec: Mmm good stuff http://open.spotify.com/track/0YWQXkEyPOPsOLxFvjR1JU
   
 that's better
   piroko: Cincinnati bell fioptics
   
 benDos: Latencies will be nil because fiber
   brycec: jebus piroko they have one helluva slow website, for being a fibre provider
   
 20 seconds and still loading....
   
 (30 now)
   lteo: right.. i experience no latencies even when pushing out a massive download in the morning, since i eat a lot of fiber
   brycec: ooh piroko could get 100/20 for "as low as $299.00/mo"
   
 but half that (50) is only $50/mo
   
 what kind of two-bit ISP is this?
   
 Damnit duolingo... They let you click "I don't have a microphone" but you're penalized for not having speakers.
   
 oh it's in the Settings... just not on the page, same as mic was.
   -: kusuriya penalizes brycec for not having a microphone
   brycec: kusuriya: It's just because I'm running it over NX on my home machine
   kusuriya: no excuse RDP lets me use my local mic and speakers remotely
   brycec: And NX does too, but I don't have that working
   
 which is okay... Means I can watch porn with 0-chance of the audio coming through unexpectedly
   snk: aww yeah
   brycec: wheee duolingo is fun when you already know the language
   qbit: benDos: do you know "The Chicharones"?
   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYV6-qIyq4I
   BryceBot: YouTube Entertainment: "The Chicharones - Little by Little" by UnionOfDead (3m 23s), 393,306 views, 1,801 likes and 30 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-09-25T12:40:43.000Z.
   brycec: @seen ryk
   BryceBot: brycec, I last saw ryk 3 days 12 hours 51 min 46 sec ago quitting: Quit: leaving.
   piroko: brycec: lol
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   rnemo: :O
   brycec: rnemo: :O
   
 rnemo is on... DURING THE DAY
   rnemo: yeah
   
 work is slow
   niteye: my bath is ready and my rubber ducky is waiting breb
   rnemo: So I just realized something last night, you people use G+ still right
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   trafficone: define "use"
   benDos: rnemo, i think it's just linus and a bunch of freetards
   rnemo: that would encompass you people
   benDos: We're not freetards.
   
 @tdr
   BryceBot: Theo de Raadt says: penguins are not much more than chickens that swim.
   rnemo: anyway
   
 I don't have my old google account so
   
 yeah
   qbit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vWdOjXJzmZU
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   lteo: oh mang this is horrible
   
 i typed "open somefile.html" at the shell
   
 and midori opene dup
   qbit: ohno
   rnemo: people use midori?
   qbit: on openbsd?
   lteo: yes
   
 must've installed it long ago and forgot
   
 but it's kinda sucky it took over my default open action for html
   rnemo: kill it with fire
   lteo: argh. i need to watch this log but i also need to pee
   
 what would brycec do?
   brycec: kickban
   
 i mean, what?
   
 lteo: suspend the tail process, come back and resume (ctrl-z, fg)
   lteo: good point thanks
   rnemo: it's a good thing you didn't ask what rnemo would do
   lteo: what would rnemo do?
   qbit: holy shit! rnemo !
   rnemo: don't do anything with the computer
   
 just run and pee in 30 seconds or less
   
 HOLY SHIT QBIT
   qbit: someone was lookin for gaysex earlier - thought of you
   rnemo: er
   
 in #devious?
   lteo: aww
   brycec: rnemo: yeah... I banned them though (for !gay reasons)
   rnemo: anyway, that's flattering qbit, I'm taken
   brycec: Also, I think they were just trolling about it
   qbit: o/
   rnemo: trolls?
   brycec: rnemo: you lost your gmail accoun, how?
   rnemo: on MY internet?
   
 brycec: forgot teh password completely, and the other recovery methods gmail has in place were no-good
   brycec: ha, lame
   rnemo: on one end, it's really annoying to change emails
   
 on the other hand, my new email has gotten NOT ONE SPAM
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   snk: yeah, that's why I'm kind of moving away from gmail
   
 if you lose access to your account for any reason
   
 bye-bye all your old email
   
 unless you have a local cache somewhere
   dbtid: i lost my gmail because of hackers once
   snk: friend of mine had a jealous BF that got into her account, and changed the password
   rnemo: snk: worse really, contacts
   dbtid: ow
   rnemo: the emails I can lose
   snk: gmails answer was to just deactivate the account and revoke all access to the emails
   rnemo: ones older than ~3 months are rarely relevant but
   snk: she lost like two years of email
   
 rnemo: true, didn't even think about losing contacts
   
 that sucks
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   lteo: back from bathroom
   
 i'm amazed at guys who can pee while using their cell phone
   -: brycec can
   trafficone: okay, gang.  Why am I taking Friday off?
   dbtid: DON'T USE THE INTERNET IF YOU HAVEN'T WASHED YOUR HANDS!
   brycec: trafficone: because.
   lteo: dbtid: he was talking on the phone
   dbtid: lteo: i mean YOU
   brycec: oh fuck that...
   dbtid: if you got germs on my computer via IRC...
   brycec: never, ever EVER EVER talk in the restroom, especially to people not in the restroom
   
 I mean, ewwwwww
   
 NO!
   
 JUST NO NO NO
   lteo: dbtid: dude you don't know me at all. i purell my hands before using my computer
   dbtid: lteo: lol
   
 lteo: good for yo
   
 *you
   brycec: I bet lteo's fiber passes through a bottle of sanitizer too
   lteo: i once saw a guy exit the bathroom without washing his hands
   dbtid: we have a guy here who does that
   
 i avoid him at all costs
   
 i don't let him use my computer or come into my office
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   rnemo: also webchat sucks
   dxtr: You suck
   
 Fuck yeah. FreeNAS is better than I thought
   
 I only broke it once
   rnemo: no u dxtr
   
 freedom hating socialist swede
   dbtid: you tell him!
   brycec: ha
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   AmberJ_: otixo.com is cool! You can connect all cloud hosting services like Skydrive, dropbox, GoogleDrive and then access them via WebDAV or web interface!
   benDos: jrick, why haven't you got back to me yet i'm le curious :/
   snk: hmm, it seems with bitbucket's migration to their new web interface, they lost the "labels" for a lot of my SSH keys
   
 so, someone's either added a bunch of keys that I don't recognize
   
 or, they are keys that used to be labeled that no longer have labels
   
 and hence, I don't recognize them
   qbit: roughro
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   qbit: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/65003_10200101366435895_2122555811_n.jpg
   rnemo: I heh'd
   qbit: nice :D
   
 search: alan watts
   mcchunkie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6imW3y_VGXI | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRrCYPxD0I | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERbvKrH-GC4 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChUYCFZDVrc&feature=relmfu#t=3m15s | http://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/11bs15/i_like_alan_watts_he_comforts_me_in_times_of/
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   qbit: sonofa - spotify can only put local music on ipod .. ( only music you have in your collection
   
 )
   
 hurts
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   qbit: kusuriya: do you know how to make winodws 8 index a smb share?
   
 nm - used the ghetto share hack to add it
   rnemo: ghetto share hack?
   qbit: make a dir .. add it to the media library.. delete dir.. symlink the share to said dir
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   benDos: herro
   
 *crickets*
   kyl: http://vimeo.com/14229671
   BryceBot: Vimeo video: "Billy's Birthday" by Thomas
   piroko: quiet day O_o
   trafficone: qbit: won't windows flip a shit if the smb share goes down?
   rnemo: yes
   kusuriya: qbit: I do not
   
 i tend to leave the content indexer off
   benDos: It's not January yet :/
   rnemo: no shit
   benDos: But I really want it to be january already
   
 done with school moving work awesomeness :D
   qbit: trafficone: shrug - i will find out! :D
   kusuriya: hmm wonder if there are any certs for various unix/linux mail systems
   benDos: kusuriya, I'm certain
   kusuriya: benDos: id love to find them
   benDos: If nothing else the oracle and suse groupware things have certs
   
 but you're talking postfix,exim, and sendmail?
   kusuriya: while i think business insider is loltastic for their predictions about if office dies exchange collapses
   
 they do have some points that mean i should round my self out like i keep planning on doing
   
 benDos: well groupware like novel and maybe postfix and the linke
   
 i wont touch oracle mail with a 20 ft pole, it requires far too much knowledge and work with PGSQL
   benDos: Tbh the sun mail server stack used to be nice
   
 Um I looooove postfix
   
 But don't know of any certs
   kusuriya: yeah but like domino the sun mail stack isnt maintained
   benDos: I think we've previous discussed out nerdlove for dovecot and timo siforgethislastname
   kusuriya: its just sold and a super steep premium because people are willing to give money for out of date software
   benDos: the sun mail stack is now part of orcles
   
 it's def maintained used in a few unis
   kusuriya: benDos: yeah i have a nerd chub for dovecot
   
 benDos: just because its used doesnt mean its maintained
   
 look at Domino
   benDos: Timo Sirainen!
   
 That's who i'm thinking of
   kusuriya: if its not a major world ending bug
   benDos: The Will Wheton of dovecot
   kusuriya: IBM will not touch it
   benDos: Domino used to be hot shits
   
 My cousin lived off doing small business domino stuff for the better part of a decade
   kusuriya: IBM still sells it because people pay millions for out dated software
   benDos: Idk Domino is a nice stack
   
 Not web 2.0'y
   
 Nor does it integrate with twitter
   kusuriya: i have a buddy that makes a really good living migrating people from domino to exchange
   benDos: but it'ce a nice stack whend one right
   
 s/d o/ do/
   lazylopez_: but it'ce a nice stack when done right
   kusuriya: its not really that nice of a stack when you actually inspect it
   benDos: how so?
   kusuriya: oracle mail when done right isnt too bad but it requires 2 admins
   benDos: I did some domino application maintenance
   kusuriya: benDos: its missing a lot of features people come to expect now, free busy is flakier than exchange and that says a lot
   benDos: Seemed like a pretty seamless way to integrate your app witht he db and mail notes etc
   kusuriya: its login portions can be a bear
   
 its a bear to admin
   benDos: yeah that's true i probably remember it with rose colored glasses
   kusuriya: then you have to use notes which has as many downs as it does up
   benDos: Libre is still finicky for me
   
 I mean generally nice
   kusuriya: the DB while its general idea is nice the execution from the admin side is marginally ok
   benDos: but the ui still after all this time since oo 2.x lacks polish
   kusuriya: yeah i moved to caligra honestly
   benDos: I'm mostly on libre for reading, latex, and google docs sometimes
   kusuriya: Domino is impressive that its still even the littleist bit compeitive after many years of neglect
   benDos: gnuplot, i may have mentioned, is my fucking jam
   kusuriya: and exchange whole sale ripped the last advantage domino had on it really
   
 and did it quite shamelessly
   benDos: That was the microsoft way
   kusuriya: and that was the all active database scheme
   benDos: I get that having schema-less data is nice from a user perspective
   kusuriya: benDos: they even noted that they took it from domino in the release notes
   benDos: But i really hope there is more of a push back to structured schema's without necessarily full SQL
   kusuriya: well the whole exchange team refuses to do SQL until its noteably faster than ESE
   
 to date for what exchange does nomatter how the SQL team hacks MSSQL they cant even get it as fast as ESE
   benDos: I don't know ESE but email data stores are a really interesting problem
   
 It's a very different use case than almost anything else
   kusuriya: yeah
   benDos: variable length strings everywhere make for generally not very compact or not very fast data stores
   kusuriya: well ESE is a very simple heavily modified JET
   
 which is in essence Access
   benDos: Don't know that either :p
   qbit: those words don't mean things!
   
 :D
   kusuriya: but it contains a lot of features
   benDos: What is access?
   kusuriya: @wiki ESE database
   benDos: I thought just key value store?
   BryceBot: Extensible Storage Engine :: Extensible Storage Engine (ESE), also known as JET Blue, is an Indexed Sequential Access Method (ISAM) data storage technology from Microsoft. ESE is notably a core of Microsoft Exchange Server and Active Directory. Its purpose is to allow applications to store and retrieve data via indexed and sequential access. Windows Mail and Desktop Search in the... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible%20Storage%20Engine
   benDos: Ah right right
   kusuriya: that is what all of exchange databases are based on
   
 honestly if i knew more about the core of dovecot id love to add somthing similar to dovecot in prep for HA
   
 because there are a few good ISAM databases for linux systems
   
 but id have to choose a linux MTA i like to hack on too
   benDos: dovecot HA is a weird issue
   kusuriya: yeah i was reading on it
   benDos: so you then need to do HA for each part of dovecot as well
   kusuriya: well sort of
   
 the tricky part really is the mailbox database
   benDos: on top of that imap requires true UUID's which in some cases can be tricky in distributed systems
   kusuriya: once you get that going the other parts dont nessicarily have to know they are in an HA config
   benDos: Well the mailboxes don't either tbh
   
 I'd argue that dovecot can be made HA now, trivially
   kusuriya: the mailbox database does
   benDos: using some cloud sql for auth and mailstore
   kusuriya: but yeah dovecot for the most part can be abstracted sort of
   
 but then you lose a lot of performance in using SQL and increase complexity
   benDos: I don't think that's accurate
   kusuriya: you honestly dont a full SQL DB for mail
   
 its a lot of overhead that is not needed
   benDos: On distributed systems i don't think sql will slow you down that much
   
 Idk google's cloud sql was decent when i played with it
   kusuriya: I wish i could find this white paper again ill have to search internally
   benDos: what for
   
 I read a bunch into the dovecot ha effort
   kusuriya: MS put out a whitepaper for planning for an SQL clistered mailbox database
   
 and put it in comaprison to an ESE Cluster
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   kusuriya: and you needed a little over a node and a half per each node of ESE
   
 but yeah i was reading into dovecot
   benDos: kusuriya, managesieve is also nice
   kusuriya: it could be as is HAed with some effort
   benDos: dovecot plugin
   kusuriya: yeah
   benDos: getting dovecot ha upstream will be the main issue imo
   
 I'd be surprised if there weren't already a few ha dovecot modules
   kusuriya: yeah i know there is lots of interest though
   benDos: Eh
   
 there was some when i looked into it
   
 not really any big push though
   kusuriya: there is also lots of interest in making a form of mbox that could be turned into somthing like exchanges HA db's or Dominos
   
 and perform at the same speed
   
 but honestly the MTA/MUA stacks are pretty mature
   
 the only things really that exchange owns in is presence, notifcation, calendaring, resource management, and admin tools
   benDos: I haven't tried doing any real caldav yet
   
 I keep meaning to, really
   
 Just hasn't happened yet
   kusuriya: caldav is okay but man its a mess
   
 its a pain to implement at times and hard to troubleshoot when stuff goes wrong in my experience
   benDos: dumb.
   kusuriya: and free/busy sharing requires you to share a lot of your calendar
   
 that is actually one complaint ive heard from freinds that have tried to switch their companies to linux mail systems
   
 the boss always complains about calendaring and appointments
   benDos: For the cost involved google apps isn't a terrible way to go tbh
   kusuriya: but thats all really group ware
   
 the issue with Gapps is security
   
 and google indexing your shit nomatter what their agreement actually says :P
   benDos: Yeah but using enigmail works just fine with gapps email ;p
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   sharvey: kind sirs
   
 I have found the most hilarious thing ever
   
 http://gizoogle.net/tranzizzle.php?search=csclub.uwaterloo.ca&se=Go+Git+Dis+Shiznit
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   zaim: hi
   
 tunneling is disabled?
   _jb: last i checked, yes.
   zaim: ok, pity
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