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   benDos: Good morning
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   benDos: Hay AmberJ
   <br> Ever get that 3g card working for more than an hour?
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   cube_: what does one typically discuss here?
   benDos: Programming language or operating system related religious debates
   <br> And random help for stuff
   cube_: I see
   benDos: We also have a few bots in here that get a fair  bit of usage
   cube_: Here's a random question for the python folks here. Why are old-style classes being phased out in python? What are the advantages of new style classes over old ones?
   <br> I understand this is not really a pythonic place
   <br> but still... I have been on wolfman for over a year and had never been on IRC; now that I am here, I don't really know what to discuss!
   benDos: cube_, the class and type unification?
   cube_: yes - inheriting from 'object'
   benDos: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.2.3/descrintro/#references
   <br> I'm checking those out now
   <br> And they all need to make a case for why they want it
   <br> For each of the changes that make up the "new classes"
   <br> Each release has a few more for specific changes if there are more
   cube_: I see
   <br> thanks!
   -: benDos is a bit of programming language nerd
   benDos: I believe that standard python has a lot of performance issues related to what actually are "objects"
   <br> Similar to Ruby, Java, Javascript before v8
   cube_: I see
   benDos: So if the language can abstract away the object system from the runtime
   <br> It lets you do things like multidimensional arrays in line
   <br> Normally someTwoDimObjArr[][] is an array of references, to an array of references, when the need to be followed to get to the object
   <br> Abstracting away a bit the underlying primitive types gives you a bit more flexibility to lie about how the data is stored for the sake of performance
   cube_: I see
   benDos: Feel free to ping me if you have any more PL questions
   cube_: sure, thanks!
   AmberJ_: Hey benDos and everyone
   benDos: Whats up mang
   AmberJ_: Naah, the 3g card disconnects every one hour. I found out that this is not an OS or data card model issue. This is a stupid restriction imposed by my service provider...
   benDos: Oh..
   <br> WRAP ALL THE THINGS IN MOSH
   AmberJ_: This happens on Windows as well... On windows, the connection disconnects in every 50-90 minutes
   <br> .define MOSH
   lazylopez_: To mosh: A way of expressing yourself at an mental rock/punk concert. Almost always done in a "pit" with extremely cool people who you don't even know but they'll look out for you! You get pushed around, shoved, you fall on your ass but it's all in the spirit and you have a f*ckin great time!!!A concert isn't a concert without getting in a pit!!!
   AmberJ_: :P
   benDos: its mosh(.something*).mit.edu
   <br> s/*))*
   <br> Doe
   <br> lold
   <br> http://mosh.mit.edu/
   <br> Anyway piroko hearts it
   <br> So if it breaks your computer, blame him
   cube_: wait... so AmberJ_, how do you do huge downloads that take over an hour if the server doesn't support resume?
   <br> or wget from a remote server, then break it into smaller parts and download them?
   benDos: cube_, you could download it on a remote server with tmux or nohup
   <br> oh you're there :p
   AmberJ_: cube_, this is a backup connection. My primary connection is slow-ish wired broadband.
   cube_: aha
   AmberJ_: Cables tend to break here pretty frequently (rough estimate: cables broke at least once every month). So, I keep a prepaid 3G connection to be able to submit assignments, browse email etc.
   benDos: AmberJ_, so you have your co-op now?
   AmberJ_: co-op?
   benDos: Like post classes before degree semester or two working for credits and maybe lunch money
   <br> s/post/after/
   lazylopez_: Like after classes before degree semester or two working for credits and maybe lunch money
   benDos: A lot of programs are adding that to their degrees
   <br> The schools get more money out of you and you get "real world experience" win win
   <br> Unless you are borrowing for uni like most 'mericans but that's another story :p
   AmberJ_: naah, I was talking about assignments for online classes...
   <br> We don't have co-op system here
   benDos: Didn't you say you had something like that?
   <br> Or some internship maybe is what i was thinking?
   AmberJ_: yea
   <br> Actually we are supposed to find internships for ourselves. And, all university needs is a proof from my employer that I worked on a project.
   benDos: I've never actually got internship credit
   <br> I've done 3 or so internships
   <br> Idk i think that's about what my uni needs
   AmberJ_: We don't get any internship credit in any other semester.
   <br> Only last semester allows internship credit and this is compulsory for every student
   benDos: Ah yeah sounds similar to co-op here then
   <br> it's required for more and more degrees now
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   benDos: Any idea what you'll be doing for that yet?
   AmberJ_: I'm going to start applying for internship to Indian companies in a day or two
   niteye: my company doesnt like indians
   AmberJ_: Noted. Won't apply to your company then :P
   cube_: so I was looking at mosh
   <br> doesn't support port forwarding
   benDos: I googled for it the other day
   <br> It did via some third party magicks
   <br> I think
   <br> http://serverfault.com/questions/390916/mosh-tunnel-via-proxy
   <br> I haven't tried that, but it seems like in theory it ought to work for most tcp protocols
   cube_: but doesn't mosh do most stuff via udp?
   benDos: That wraps your tcp connections into udp
   <br> when looks like mosh handles, and then pipes ssh through
   <br> s/when/whichk
   lazylopez_: whichk looks like mosh handles, and then pipes ssh through
   benDos: blah
   <br> which*
   kusuriya: I heard you like packets so i wraped your TCP in UDP so you can unwrap packets while you unwrap packets
   <br> but IMO wrapping TCP in UDP kinda defeats the purpose of TCP :)
   cube_: wait, so you get TCP wrapped in UDP, and then your ACK is also wrapped in UDP and returned? What if the return ACK is lost but the original packet reached its destination? How does one prevent the sender from sending the same thing again and again?
   kusuriya: <u>cube_</u>: you dont :P
   <br> its like if you damage your network cable
   niteye: i think its difficult to damage a network cable so it still works but occasionally drops packets, i think it either not work at all or still work great
   kusuriya: not really
   <br> give me a cable stripper and an eyedropper of water
   <br> or a CFL bulb
   niteye: thats a deliberate kind of sabotage
   kusuriya: both will scramble data efficently enough to cause syn storms
   niteye: no one would accidentally damage it that way
   kusuriya: actually thoose are ways to simulate real world things
   <br> the eyedropper of water would simulate a cable that was rubbed raw being rained on
   <br> the CFL would simulate some one being a moron when running cable
   <br> and running it through florecent light
   niteye: ah
   <br> luckily my computer is inside
   kusuriya: yeah ive had to run cable outside before though
   <br> i generally get cable runs for it now a days
   <br> but Florecent lights like CFL bulbs cause lots of random line issues
   niteye: must be an issue for skrillex
   kusuriya: yep
   <br> "skrillex my network is super slow can you help me?"
   niteye: "really? your music improved though"
   kusuriya: but i used to have a line tester that could detect EM "humm"
   niteye: that would be a new way to make duvstep, transfer a sound pitch through a rigged cable with UDP, see what comes out
   kusuriya: :D
   benDos: oh i'm back
   <br> kusuriya, you can totally implement tcp in udp
   <br> I've actually done a fair bit of tcp in udp
   kusuriya: <u>benDos</u>: didnt say you couldnt just said its not really a great idea
   benDos: Idk
   kusuriya: defeats the purpose behind TCP IMO
   benDos: Well
   <br> Kinda
   <br> you can give yourself a subset of the guarantees  that tcp gives you in exchange for X
   niteye: however, UDP inside TCP makes UDP extra reliable, and a bit slower
   benDos: Right
   <br> Also udp is way easier to anycast then handle in software
   kusuriya: true
   benDos: doing anycast tcp requires you do muck around with your os's tcp stack
   kusuriya: just multicast and forget :P (jk)
   benDos: :p
   <br> I actually think i have that code up my on portfolio..
   niteye: i wish i traveled a lot so i could warrant the purchase of a netbook
   benDos: I'm traveling across the country in a month and a half
   <br> Buy me a netbook?
   niteye: maybe i could warrant that if you were a hot girl
   kusuriya: <u>niteye</u>: do you work in a datacenter?
   niteye: but ive seen on 'to catch a predator' that apparently buying them a happy meal is enough
   <br> nope
   kusuriya: damn
   <br> becaust that right there is warrent enough to buy a system 11 - 13"
   <br> because anything bigger just doesnt fit in between the racks as well
   niteye: you wanted me to sniff the cable and find hot women didnt you, naughty naughty
   benDos: niteye, what if I gave you a license the benDossBot's sauce?
   kusuriya: nah i already do that :D
   benDos: to*
   niteye: id like some sauce but i need a woman to put it on
   kusuriya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxHt4-GDvck
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   kusuriya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JorEw_75Yg0&amp;feature=g-logo
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   kusuriya: i guess not every cop is a shit bag
   <br> he interviewed pretty nicely
   niteye: or is he, ive seen one on 'to catch a predator' who wanted to go bootshopping, and brought boots to the house of the girl
   kusuriya: :o
   -: kusuriya watches for the next story to see if the cop eats the homless guy
   benDos: kusuriya, if win7 doesn't work on my workstation what are the chances win8 will?
   niteye: 89%
   kusuriya: <u>benDos</u>: depends on why it didnt work
   <br> performance id say niteye is right
   <br> if it was drivers because your shit is too old id say 0% just like windows 7 ;)
   benDos: It's a 2010 intel server mobo for xeon i7s
   kusuriya: then why didnt it work :P
   benDos: I got little freezes i couldn't pin down to any driver or firmware
   kusuriya: my boss has one of thoose that works like a boss :D
   benDos: But the box is perfect on linux, and win7 runs just fine in kvm
   kusuriya: but 8 may run better on that
   <br> one way to know is pick up a spare drive and do it
   benDos: After this semester i'm gonna try win7 on there maybe there's finally an update that fixes it
   <br> But i tried over the summer i think and got the latest stable and latest drivers/firmware for everything no combination worked
   kusuriya: you may need to z out the drives also
   <br> most win7 install issues ive met are because of the drives
   benDos: Seriously...
   kusuriya: yep
   benDos: I usually just zero out the first few MB
   <br> For a fresh install on top of a drive i don't care about
   kusuriya: do the full drive this go around
   benDos: Are you for serious?
   kusuriya: dead serious
   benDos: Windows might be fucking up cause there are some old bits on my dirve...
   kusuriya: yep
   <br> ive had it happen
   benDos: You can't tell cause this is irc
   kusuriya: especially if the drive had a GPT table
   benDos: But i have a super sad face on right now
   kusuriya: so if you have ever GPT formatted your disks GPT stores 2 backups further back on the drive
   <br> if windows (or linux for that matter) sees them it declares your disk as damaged
   <br> some linux distros will try to fix the partition table
   benDos: Man i've never had any issues like that in linux
   kusuriya: windows may halt to save data
   benDos: I've even fdisked completely full drives
   kusuriya: ive had issues like that in linux adn BSD
   benDos: without clearing anything and not had issues
   kusuriya: ive actually wrote an MBR over the top of a GPT once and had an unbootable system
   benDos: Write new partition table proceed with my day
   kusuriya: its one of thoose worth a try things
   benDos: I guess i don't really mix windows and linux that much any more
   kusuriya: windows can become super picky
   benDos: But yeah i def did not try that
   <br> s/picky/poorly qa'd/
   lazylopez_: But yeah i def did not try that
   benDos: Wut.
   kusuriya: actually its not poor QA
   <br> its a design choice for the drive error
   <br> s
   benDos: If any software breaks cause of the content of initialized blocks
   <br> that sounds like poor qa
   kusuriya: the design is to preserve the possible existing data of a damaged disk
   benDos: Ugh
   <br> They prompt you
   <br> A bazillion times
   <br> Yes i'm sure
   kusuriya: yeah but remember what the installer is meant for :P
   <br> stupid people
   benDos: Then it over writes just fine, but then causes mini freezes
   <br> Idk i'll try it
   <br> win7 just annoyed me with that box
   kusuriya: busineses use images that can force partition the disk
   <br> yeah id Z the full disk
   <br> if it doesnt work after that it doesnt like somthing about the disk and is probly a bug
   benDos: thanks though
   niteye: the only issue i ever got is, if you have two drives, one windows and one linux, and you try to install windows again, it will not let you go through unless you format both drives, to install some temp install files on, disconnecting the linux and reconnecting and that it worked, but i dont do much hardcore stuff
   kusuriya: <u>niteye</u>: that was actually a bug XD
   <br> (in windows)
   niteye: yeah i figured heh
   kusuriya: its a funny as hell bug
   niteye: well at the time i thought a 'bug' to make sure you stick with MS
   kusuriya: Technet says the solution is "disconnect the drive you do not want the installer to write to"
   niteye: i think its fixed by now in windows 7
   <br> still something strange in windows 7, sometimes it wants to make a really really tiny partition next to the main one, and i have to do some strange sequence in the partitioner to be able to get rid of it
   <br> like deleting all partitions and choosing a big one, you'd get the two partitions again, you had to delete one, and then resize the other to the full space
   kusuriya: <u>niteye</u>: you cant get rid of the tiny system partition
   <br> not any more
   <br> its needed for boot and recovery
   niteye: pity, it worked when i installed win 7 last year i think
   kusuriya: yeah if you dont have it also there are some updates that will brick your system
   <br> like Service Packs
   niteye: service pack 1 worked, so far theres nothing iknow about that failed, but if something fails i dont care, windows is just for games anyway
   kusuriya: yeah
   <br> its just somthing to keep in mind
   <br> that partition has some automated recovery stuff and part of the bootloader and while the bootloader can be relocated
   <br> the revcovery tools can not, so if SP1 would have failed the system wouldnt have beenable to auto backout
   niteye: pita,ill have not enough partitions anymore if i want to to a "correct" install, i'd need 2 for windows and 3 for linux (buut, root and swap), id have to get on with extended partitions instead of just the 4 main ones (i know, im a purist)
   kusuriya: if you partition linux correctly you do
   <br> 2 for windows then 1 primary and 1 logical for linux
   <br> and the logical has 3 partitions in it
   niteye: yeah but i dont like logical partitions, it overcomplications the partitions view
   kusuriya: most distros tell you to drop everything except boot into a logical partition
   niteye: most distros tell me that puttin everything in one partition is for the simpletons
   kusuriya: logical partitions are not one partition ;)
   niteye: yeah i mean /boot and /home etc
   kusuriya: but also if you use GPT you are not limited to 4 parts
   <br> GPT can have up to 128 primary partitions
   niteye: whats GPT
   kusuriya: its the update for MBR style partitions
   <br> its AKA GUID Partition Table
   qbit: halla
   kusuriya: its required for disks greater than 2TB and/or EFI
   niteye: cool bananas, about time there was an upgrade
   <br> windows 7 and linux distro installs still seem to do the old style partitions still, when will those support GPT?
   kusuriya: they all support it
   <br> and ubuntu uses GPT by default
   niteye: hmm, why didnt i ever find this out
   kusuriya: FreeBSD may switch to it for its default soon
   <br> its already required for ZFS on root
   niteye: speaking of which, i want a japanese or south korean girlfriend
   kusuriya: not hard to do if your 'Merican
   niteye: european unfortunately
   kusuriya: hmm well then get an american accent :D
   <br> its not like our accent is hard
   niteye: i dont have a mexican or indian accent while speaking english, i think that'll do
   kusuriya: but make sure its the northern american accent
   <br> not the redneck one
   niteye: redneck american sounds a bit like a lower pitched australian accent to me
   kusuriya: lower pitched and a bit more stupid to me
   <br> but no one thinks american redneck is sexy, unless its that southern bell lady
   niteye: when i see something japanese, like a japanese news report, i automatically think the female news anchor gets gangbanged backstage, and its perfectly normal at every workplace there
   kusuriya: well thats japan man
   niteye: their subway platform has a retractable wall so you cant fall on the platform when theres no train
   <br> its more advanced than here
   kusuriya: it is
   <br> japan is considered the #1 best engineered infrastructure
   <br> thats why they are all flabberghasted by that tunnel callapse
   niteye: hehe
   <br> also according to this anime, they all have a TV on the console of their car
   kusuriya: **collapse
   <br> :D
   <br> but yeah japan is awesome
   niteye: especially if you're a male office employee
   kusuriya: yes
   niteye: id hate to have a daughter there though
   kusuriya: yeah
   niteye: "how was school today hun? did you get gangbanged by the whole class, or just the teachers today?"
   kusuriya: "ohh you just got raped on the train, youre lazy get the fuck back out there!"
   niteye: and when she thinks shes at home, her brother gets in on the action too
   kusuriya: exactly
   niteye: and then she goes for a nap in the garden, the plants even want some too
   kusuriya: I hoped you hired a camera guy to follow her
   niteye: i wonder what exactly makes japanese adult videos the way they are, is it in their genetics ?
   kusuriya: i think so
   <br> we will have to comission a study
   niteye: that being said, i dislike american adult videos, too many closeups, cheesy storylines, and too many artificially enhanced sausages and balloons
   qbit: i need to add pushover sounds to sickbeard :O
   niteye: anyone knows what chat rooms japanese women in their twienties frequent ?
   <br> preferably with an acceptable command of english too
   kusuriya: <u>niteye</u>: what you are looking for is a brides for sale magazine
   qbit: totally not creepy
   niteye: do they really scream like that or only for in the movies when theyre making babies?
   qbit: totally not creepy at all
   kusuriya: hmm im thinking of starting a mesh network node when i move to my new place
   <br> since ill have a place to set radio gear
   qbit: using what hardware / sw?
   <br> :O
   <br> cuz i wanna do that as well
   kusuriya: i need to check out hardware more
   <br> but /r/darknet and /r/hyperboria both use cjdns
   <br> https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/
   <br> and https://projectmeshnet.org/
   qbit: huh
   <br> seems too "look at me!"
   <br> i want underground
   <br> so i cna go rogue
   kusuriya: CJDNS or BATMAN both look like great software for it
   <br> I may link up with seattle wireless and see if they are actually still trying to put out their mesh network
   qbit: wonder what one could do with openbsd
   kusuriya: Batman has a port for OpenBSD IIRC
   qbit: don't see it
   niteye: i thought batman had a secretary to handle the computer stuff while hes out showing his guns
   kusuriya: wait no it was OLSR
   qbit: oh it's a kernel thinger
   <br> mmm olsrd
   <br> kew
   <br> mmm old version
   kusuriya: yeah
   <br> i need to see if there are existing mesh networks in my area first really
   qbit: yeah
   <br> kinda hurts without others :P
   <br> maybe they are just waiting for you to make yours! :O
   kusuriya: well Im probly going to take some time to go and meet up with seattle wireless to see if they are still trying to build out their mesh
   <br> because they actually own repeaters in the area
   xpt: good afternoon
   benDos: herro
   <br> qbit, do you know Nicolay (music)?
   qbit: hailo
   <br> i don't
   piroko: ooh darknets
   niteye: ooh japanese girls
   qbit: http://www.deftly.net/olsdr.diff &lt;---- makes openbsd have the latest version
   <br> of olsdr
   <br> if that wasn't clear
   kusuriya: yep
   <br> im actually going to do a site survey and probly meet up with the seattle wireless hackspace some time in january after i get into the place
   niteye: i wanted to set up a darknet for friends but i dont have any friends
   <br> at least none that would benefit from a darknet
   kusuriya: well i just want to see more mesh networking
   <br> id really love to eventually beable to pop it into my carputer and not have to tether
   niteye: whats mesh networking, some kind of tcp/ip over amateur radio broadcast?
   kusuriya: mesh networking is a bunch of wireless accesspoints and devices acting as base stations together
   <br> to form a much larger and resilient wireless network using commodity gear
   niteye: it woudl be fun if every home router also allowed internet access to people on the sreets, ofcourse being routed differently than just roaming on the person's home network
   qbit: wonder of otterbox is gonna make a case for the n4
   kusuriya: FON was doing that for a while so
   <br> <u>qbit</u>: heres a bit of interestingness by default OpenBSD only lets you have for GIF tunnels
   <br> you have to flip a bit in the kernel for more
   <br> **for, four
   niteye: yeah ive seen some of those FON access points, but it's like in hotels, you get redirected to some payment page, not true internet like i imagined
   kusuriya: depends on how the owner sets it up
   qbit: mm
   kusuriya: http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/IpTunnel
   <br> first example goes over how to do the internet tunnels for seattle wireless
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   kusuriya: ill probly actually do this when i get my phsyical net built out
   qbit: nice
   kusuriya: setup a small Bx node and wait for peers
   <br> since it looks like id be the only one in my zone
   <br> and weight the ethernet interface way the fuck down so when other wireless peers are in sight i can connect them and save bandwidth
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   benDos: Oh qbit my bad
   <br> Been cleaning my apt for the last hour
   <br> I'll send you some good track laters
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   niteye: i cant open my coke
   <br> im twisting im twisting, but it just wont come of
   kusuriya: hmm sweet i just met a bunch of the local seattle meshnet people
   <br> they told me bring my gear out with me in late jan when they reopen their meetings and they will help me haxx it together
   AmberJ_: Does someone remembers a term used to define those articles/writers who pick a writeup and carefully comment on each point in it?
   <br> I remember reading a wikipedia article about this but can't locate the link now :(
   <br> It's a criticism/comment on a point-by-point basis as a reply to another writeup..
   benDos: An onion just rolled off the top of my fridge into my face when i opened my freezer :/
   AmberJ_: Err... you keep onions in freezer?
   <br> My mum keeps them outside... not even in a fridge
   benDos: No i had some onions on top of my fridge
   <br> They rolled into the crack between the top of the fridge and the freezer open
   <br> I open the freezer door onion takes a funny bounce into my face
   <br> and the freezer door*
   AmberJ_: heh
   benDos: Oh AmberJ_
   <br> the document you mentioned earlier, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicus_curiae sometimes take that form
   BryceBot: Amicus curiae :: An amicus curiae (also spelled amicus curiæ; plural amici curiae) is someone, not a party to a case, who volunteers to offer information to assist a court in deciding a matter before it. The information provided may be a legal opinion in the form of a brief (which is called an amicus brief when offered by an amicus curiae), a testimony that has not been solicited by any of the parties, or a learned treatise on a matter...
   benDos: kinda
   AmberJ_: Aha, found it. The word is "fisking": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisking
   BryceBot: Fisking :: The term fisking is blogosphere slang describing a point-by-point criticism that highlights perceived errors, or disputes the analysis in a statement, article, or essay.  Eric S. Raymond, in the Jargon File, defined the term as:    A point-by-point refutation of a blog entry or (especially) news story. A really stylish fisking is witty, logical, sarcastic and ruthlessly factual; flaming or handwaving is considered poor form...
   AmberJ_: "The term fisking is blogosphere slang describing a point-by-point criticism that highlights perceived errors, or disputes the analysis in a statement, article, or essay."
   <br> It even has a Jargon file entry: http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/fisking.html
   benDos: Oh
   <br> In the blogosphere.
   <br> :p
   <br> I imagine that form of writing predates blogger
   <br> I totally just failed at making pasta
   <br> Was trying a new brand, they said 15 minutes, totally was done in like 8
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   benDos: I still can't believe i'm the only one in here who plays cod :/
   dayid: others are just personable enough to not admit it in public
   benDos: That's probably true
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   benDos: But the people i play cod with are from my old clan in a half life 2 mod
   <br> And they're all 5 hours ahead of me
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   benDos: http://youtu.be/SpSdulyMMkg SCIENCE
   BryceBot: YouTube Tech: "Moving a Magnet" by nottinghamscience (4m 11s), 15,342 views, 428 likes and 3 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-07-27T10:33:20.000Z.
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   _jb: ooh, i love nottingham science.
   benDos: Me too :)
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   qbit: wew!
   <br> huge damage to resistance today!
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   -: kusuriya hax qbit
   qbit: also scored a free ipod nano touch
   <br> er what ever they are called
   kusuriya: o/
   qbit: o
   <br> aw - no rockbox for it
   kusuriya: :(
   qbit: oh well it will be for snowboarding
   <br> smashable
   kusuriya: qbit snowboarding eh
   benDos: qbit, ingress has ipods?
   <br> wut
   -: kusuriya now for shizzle doesnt want ingress
   kusuriya: eew iPods
   benDos: However ipod+rockbox is super nice
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   piroko: Just rode shotgun in my buddy's 500HP is300 as we did donuts in the middle of nowhere. Out of nowhere this 30-something year old couple drive up to us, block us in, and start recording the conversation we had with them
   <br> It went something like this. Woman: "This is not a playground!" Guy gets out of car to take a pic of my friend's, plate, friend drives around douche's car and does a sick burnout driving away
   <br> Good thing they don't have a clue about the law. wew
   kusuriya: <u>piroko</u>: did you take your pistol out and demand the device they were using to take pictures and record
   <br> teach some busy bodies a lesson
   piroko: haha no but I should have
   kusuriya: its like damn straight i robbed you now STFU and get out of my face
   piroko: Yeah pretty sure that's a felony
   <br> lol
   kusuriya: so is blocking you in
   <br> unlawful detainment
   <br> :D
   <br> sure its vs armed robery but hey
   mcchunkie: New sets for amd64!
   kusuriya: man i cant wait to move
   <br> i found where im storing my carboys of mead :D
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   benDos: kyl, you around?
   mcchunkie: ohlol, that's what she said!
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   kyl: <u>benDos</u>: ish
   mcchunkie: New sets for i386!
   AmberJ_: s/ish/around-ish
   lazylopez_: <u>benDos</u>: around-ish
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   _jb: http://imgur.com/a/76Iae
   <br> for y'all.
   <br> nerds.
   <br> :)
   benDos: I totally thought that was something from warehouse 13 from the first few pictures
   brycec: I knew exactly what that was as soon as I saw it
   <br> but that's because I subscribe to /r/cableporn :P
   <br> (and happened to be reading it at lunch
   _jb: i kind of dig it
   <br> the nice IBM label got me to smile
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   piroko: Dear what.cd: fuck you for being down
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   qbit: pewpew
   <br> wb lteo o/
   zenmower: mmmm sausage and cheese baked inside bread
   <br> i wonder why i find claire danes so attractive
   sharvey: ah fuck
   <br> so my e-mail client decided to set my newsgroup account as default, which coincidentally has the same sender e-mail as my main e-mail account
   <br> apparently I've been replying to e-mails and having it sent to newsgroups, to a black hole
   mcchunkie: that's what she said!
   sharvey: yes, that's exactly what she said
   Gallomimia: on public display, or so no one can read them?
   sharvey: I hope so no one can read them
   mcchunkie: New sets for macppc!
   Gallomimia: you might want to look into that
   brycec: <u>zenmower</u>: Because... she is?
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   mcchunkie: New sets for amd64!
   <br> New sets for i386!
   rnemo: two nights in a row
   brycec: woohoo
   <br> wb rnemo
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   rnemo: ty brycec
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   rnemo: man I am both looking forward to and dreading wednesday
   kyl: what's on weds?
   brycec: another hospital visit?
   rnemo: god no
   <br> I hope not
   <br> it's when I get to see James again...but I'm going to teach him how to drive
   brycec: robbing the cradle, rnemo ? Or a grown man that doesn't know how to drive?
   rnemo: robbing the cradle?
   brycec: e.g. a 16 yr old
   rnemo: oh
   <br> he's 21
   <br> sometimes it feels like robbing the cradle but alas
   <br> no he just doesn't know how to drive
   <br> and yes that freaks me out too
   kyl: heh
   brycec: *whoosh*
   BryceBot: Bye brycec!
   trafficone: *whoosh*
   BryceBot: Bye trafficone!
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