#devious 2012-12-01,Sat

kusuriya

its a similar issue to why OpenBSD talls you to save a copy of reboot while doing an upgrade
dxtr: anything lenovo
problem solved

dxtr

kusuriya: I'm looking at thinkpad w520

benDos

lenovo's are a PITA to add more ram to

kusuriya

perferably the thinkpad line

benDos

dell business doesn't even use screws i think

kusuriya

benDos: undoing 2 screws and opening the bottom ram door is a PITA since when?

qbit

++for thinkpads

dxtr

THINKPAD W520! GOOD OR ANUS!?

kusuriya

the dell business ones to get at the second ram slot you will need to remove the keyboard
7 screws
and 2 screws for the ram door

qbit

this xbmc remote changes everything

benDos

the last few lenovos i've upgraded didn't open nicely

kusuriya

i have one sittine next to me for work
benDos: get a think pad ;)

benDos

Yeah that was my kind of experience with the lenovos
i had to yank the keyboard 'n shit to get at the ram slots
4+ years ago

kusuriya

the design hasnt changed for years and 2 screws opens the ram door and both slots are available

benDos

benDos shrugs
I've been mistaken before, shit happens

kusuriya

especially in the W series

benDos

My dell business laptop is on 100% original parts going on 6.5 years

kusuriya

but the thinkpad honestly is one of the only other OEMs that rivals apple for build quality

dxtr

kusuriya: So am I going for the T or W series?

benDos

Therefore my acedonte is best.[09:42] <benDos> dxtr, just mod a ps3

dxtr

What will give me the most docking for my money?

benDos

I know you want a cell laptop

kusuriya

dxtr: depends on what you want the T series though now has a quad core but only 16 gb of ram
the W will give you a quad core with 32gb of max ram

benDos

That amount of ram on a laptop is so sexy
My little 2gb ram laptop is legit depressing
"Oh were you using your DE, lol let me swap that out for chrome"

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kusuriya

yeah all thinkpad series can do 16gb if it only has 2 slots
its really nice that they dont limit it

dxtr

kusuriya: well, 16GB is enough for me
Quad-core is always nice

qbit

haha

benDos

kusuriya, does it run linux drivers nicely?

kusuriya

benDos: always has

benDos

gud.

dxtr

benDos: "Gud" means "God" in swedish

kusuriya

the thinkpad lines are always 99 - 100% linux compatible
about 80 - 90% BSD compatible

benDos

dxtr, gud is a phonetic spelling of food i use on the internet
of good*

dxtr

of food
benDos: I'm just pointing out the harsh truth

benDos

Maybe harsh doesn't mean what you think it means
=D

dxtr

kusuriya: Also, I'd want a decent monitor if that's possible
Like over 9000 pixels and shit

kusuriya

all of the thinkpad series have good monitors
make sure to pay the extra for the 1080 res screens

dxtr

kusuriya: You know what I hate about Lenovo?

kusuriya

price

dxtr

They don't have a swedish shop, so I can't customize and shit

benDos

IBM
Lenovo support as of 3 years ago was pretty turrible

dxtr

I have to go through resellers that doesn't allow me to customize it

benDos

That's annoying

kusuriya

dxtr: you should beable to use the site

benDos

Serves you right for your communism though

dxtr

kusuriya: All I get is some kind if "Find a reseller for this model!"
That's the downside of living in Scandinavia, kusuriya :P

kusuriya

hm thats super strange because i know they ship to europe

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benDos

proxy in from devious and see if they let you ship international?

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dxtr

kusuriya: Disregard that. I should click on the correct links

[09:49]

kusuriya

dxtr: i was about to link you :P

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dxtr

kusuriya: Oh no, I lied again
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/seind/LenovoPortal/en_SE/catalog.workflow:category.details?action=init&current-catalog-id=C8762DAC28034546B6C94C13C882AAA6&current-category-id=F27B0159D50422DDDFAACDC8F3AA1BDD#.ULpDJ7TgW00

benDos

Is lenovo only intel cpus?

dxtr

kusuriya: Can't customize and shit

kusuriya

benDos: almost all OEMs are Intel only
benDos: lenovo does have some AMD models but they are a PITA to find

dxtr

Why wouldn't you want Intel anyway?

benDos

Bulldoze does ok on some workloads
or whatever bulldozer ended up being called
the many core amds

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kusuriya

dxtr: yeah youre right
:P

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dxtr

kusuriya: I'll use you as a proxy

kusuriya

its odd to not get a CTO

dxtr

CTO?

kusuriya

Customized To Order

dxtr

Aight

kusuriya

thats lenovos code for it

dxtr

Another thing that I think is strange about Lenovo: I can customize most things on the 'murkan site but not the keyboard language :P

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benDos

Is Lenovo like Dell where you save a few hundred by calling instead of ordering online?

dxtr

Imagine I'm 'murkan and want to give my mexican gardener a christmas bonus
benDos: Wat?

kusuriya

benDos: nope
dxtr: you may want to call them though

benDos

dxtr, I've saved upwards of 400 on 2k laptops with dell by calling

kusuriya

i bet you can get a CTO if you call lenovo

dxtr

kusuriya: I'll tell them you told me that

benDos

Asking at every step if they have any deals on stuff, student discounts, etc

dxtr

And then we'll sue you. Liability, etc.

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benDos

I once got two years of the any thing happens replacement and 2x ram for free :p
Point being for laptops imo it is worth calling

[09:55]

dxtr

benDos: Lawl, I have "Anything happens we'll replace it no questions asked" in my home insurance
Piss on phone? I'll get a new one!

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benDos

Hah

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dxtr

My fiancee dropped her phone in a glass of water
Got a new one within days

[09:57]

benDos

That's sweet

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dxtr

That's socialism for you

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benDos

Sounds crazy
benDos said enviously
Eh Washington seems cool enough for now
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/07/atari-arcade-is-the-60-answer-to-icade-review/ hah win

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dxtr

http://i.imgur.com/TMCon.jpg <- My battlestation
Disregard the horrible quality :P

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kusuriya

is that the swedish yule soda!

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dxtr

Julmust!
Also, disregard the confederate flag :D

[10:08]

kusuriya

Julmust! o/
ahh so dxtr is a nationalist

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dxtr

'MURKA!

[10:09]

benDos

Why are you sitting in the dark?
I'm totally not sitting with the lights on and curtains draw during a sunny day to keep my apartment warm with free heat

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dxtr

benDos: Why I'm sitting in the dark? http://i.imgur.com/epiy0.jpg
that's outside
Also, -6 degC outside
And it's getting colder
-9 tomorrow, -10 on Monday
kusuriya: We got a good winter this year. shame you didn't come :P
Snow and everything

[10:14]

sharvey

.weather n2l3g5

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BryceBot

Special Weather Statement in effect from until : Special Weather Statementupdated by Environment Canadaat 10:59 am EST Saturday 1 December 2012.---------------------------------------------------------------------Special Weather Statement for:=new= London - Middlesex=new= Oxford - Brant=new= Huron -...
Kitchener, Ontario: Overcast ☁ 30°F (0°C), Humidity: 109%, Wind: From the South at 5.2 MPH, Pressure: 30.28inHg (1025mb) and falling, Dewpoint: 30°F (-1°C), Feels like 25°F (-4°C), Visibility: 0Mi (1km), UV index: 1, Rainfall today: 0.08in (2mm), Sunrise 07:35, Sunset: 16:46, Lunar phase: Waning gibbous
Saturday: Chance of Rain 39°F/41°F (4°C/5°C) | Sunday: Rain 50°F/36°F (10°C/2°C) | Monday: Mostly Cloudy 54°F/52°F (12°C/11°C) | Tuesday: Chance of Rain 54°F/32°F (12°C/0°C)
The average high for this date is 36°F (2°C), and the average low is 26°F (-3°C)

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kusuriya

i know :(

[10:16]

sharvey

the special weather statement is fog
why could they not just mention this

[10:18]

benDos

Java is making it so hard to get some a damn return value :/

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brycec

hey I can see a McDonalds from dxtr's window

[10:21]

dxtr

brycec: You can? :D
1Oh yeah
U jelly?

[10:21]

brycec

No... should I be?

[10:23]

dxtr

totally
Who doesn't want to live near a McDonalds
?

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brycec

I live near one, doesn't mean I want to see it

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lteo

twss

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mcchunkie

Added funny: "I live near one, doesn't mean I want to see it"

[10:25]

benDos

Woah.
All the sudden antlr seems to be working
Hooray?

[10:25]

lteo

hooray!
benDos: what are you using antlr for again?

[10:26]

benDos

Implementing minijava
I started with bison and yacc planning to use clang+llvm
My prof suggested due to timing constraints i switch to antlr+jasmin and output to java bytecode instead of building elfs
Before it was minijava+easymode (c style and interopable) externs
Now it's minijava+plus a few syntactic sugar constructs

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Did i scare everyone off with my compiler writing antics?
bison and flex*

[10:35]

lteo

you already scared me off when you said "Implementing minijava" ;)

[10:36]

benDos

But implementing languages or parts there of is so much fun :D

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brycec

*thereof

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benDos

Thanks ;)

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sharvey

benDos: are you flexing your compiler writing skills

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kusuriya

hes trying to make us all look like mooks

sharvey

mooks?

kusuriya

@define mook

BryceBot

mook: Michael Monack (born 1983), better known by his moniker Mook, is a graffiti artist from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States. ... <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mook_(graffiti_artist)>

kusuriya

:/
not even close

sharvey

we're all graffiti artists?

kusuriya

mook definition: slang a foolish, insignificant, or contemptible person.

brycec

bonnie++ + gcharts, woo https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2012-12-01_12-07-09.png

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benDos

Also a mook is a supposed to die npc in a shoot-em-up movie or game
sharvey, it's for a class
I've done a few parts of this before but never the whole lexer,parser,ast,codegen,optimization together
brycec, sweet but your axis' lack labels bra
Jk
you just labeled in a weird spot :p

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brycec

lack labels?
oh ha

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benDos

I got it now, thanks

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jrick

you know you need to start getting more sleep when you think a double can fit in a 2 byte buffer

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benDos

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brycec

sounds legit
:P

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benDos

Go to bed man.

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benDos

After a steamy shower walking into my kitchen with a just brewed cup of coffee is pure win.

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qbit

and to think! you could have walked into this: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/30/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-7145-1354298200-1.gif

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pherricoxide

Apparently the raspberry pi doesn't like keyboards and mice that draw too much...

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Combination of the raspberry pi only providing like 4.4V to the USB ports instead of 5V and only 100ma per port instead of up to 500ma on a normal USB port = my nice keyboards really don't get along with it (key presses get missed, keys get stuck)
ah well.. need a self powered USB hub
or a cheaper low power keyboard/mouse

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dbtid

or some cheese to go with that whine
wtf do you want for $35?

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brycec

OHGODQBITINEEDONEOFTHOSE

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qbit

brycec: me too man :D

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zenmower

kyl
http://i.imgur.com/GB0il.jpg

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benDos

qbit, have you used ATS?
Someone reminded me that some people actually use it
And I really can't figure out why

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qbit

dunno what it is

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benDos

http://www.ats-lang.org/
also
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/performance.php?test=regexdna
javascript's regex for them was faster than all others

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jrick

all hail the all knowing language shootout

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benDos

I'm just looking around a few of these
They look kind of fun, at least for java 7 i see a few that certainly can be faster
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=regexdna&lang=java&id=5
As far as I can tell, that shouldn't work
Oh jk just saw a final that fixed it :p

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jrick, c doesn't have the option to trace compile
that regex test uses the same handful of already compiled regex over and over again

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qbit

jrick: i read that in a futurama-controlled-by-hypnotoad voice
i need a pbx trunk that doesn't require me to give them full access to my gmail

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benDos

Woah
Duck Duck Go is also a board game

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qbit

ha
nice

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qbit waits for cvs to diff
hurtsbad
also KeyandPeele is soawesome

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benDos

qbit, LL parsing is way more fun than any soduko :p

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qbit

eh?

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benDos

I'm about to push to my repo on github
i'll link in asec

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qbit

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benDos

Also i need to set up a keyring already
https://github.com/Paretzky/minijava-jasmin-sugar/blob/master/src/minijava.g and the main test file i've been playing with is https://github.com/Paretzky/minijava-jasmin-sugar/blob/master/test/input-files/test1.java
I've been trying to get expressions to do the right thing
return c[b[a-1]]+5-(b[(c[b-c[0]])+1])+(new int[(1)+(b[a])]).length;
finally is a valid expression
It may not be semantically meaningful, but it's syntactically correct

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qbit

nice

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benDos

qbit, you're not going to play cod with me on xbox any time soon?
are you?

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qbit

qbit has not an xbox :D

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benDos

pfft

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qbit

right?
wish they would let the ps3 / xbox game play play together

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mwheeler

benDos: that looks so fucking ugly
00:56 <+benDos> return c[b[a-1]]+5-(b[(c[b-c[0]])+1])+(new int[(1)+(b[a])]).length;

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benDos

mwheeler, it isn't meaningful

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_jb

should've brought my damned mouse with me

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benDos

Was just to test that I can handle nested expressions correctly in my parser

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_jb

oosp

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mwheeler

benDos: ah

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zenmower

brycec: post any pictures of your dick lately?

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mwheeler

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zenmower

mwheeler: brycec doesn't post dick pics
that would just be sad

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benDos

Is that some inside joke?

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qbit

lol dick pics?
you guys need to talk to dxtr
about cockdocking

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benDos

wut?

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brycec

zenmower: or... do I?

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zenmower

haha

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lteo

kyl: i'm vindicated! http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/github-needs-take-open-source-seriously-208046

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zenmower

meh
that shit is stupid
if i dont want to have a license
then i shouldn't have to have one
you want to use my code
i may sue you later
whatever

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qbit

kyl: write me a golangmajobber that adds licenses to all my github repos!
GOGOGOGOGOG

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kusuriya

kusuriya licenses all of qbit's github repos as copyright kusuriya

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qbit

noewwwwwwwww

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benDos

doesn't google code require you to be pick a license?
i don't recall that being an issue for anyone ever
to pick a*

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kusuriya

github has a default DMCA license

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benDos

I don't think that's accurate.

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kusuriya

techincally everything on the internet unless otherwise stated is default DMCA licensed ;)
which is copyright you at time of upload
(in the US)

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lteo

qbit: bro /usr/share/misc/license.template

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zenmower

kusuriya is right
i believe

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brycec

kusuriya is right
i am fairly certain

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qbit

lteo: o/
.addtroll kusuriya is right, i am fairly certain.

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lazylopez_

kusuriya is right, i am fairly certain.: was added

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qbit

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lteo

qbit: o
and ol
lol

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rnemo

hello #devious

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brycec

rnemo: !@
How goes it?

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rnemo

brycec: hi!
I'm still not dead!
that is about all I can say

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brycec

well as long as it's still true, good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MURq3mPRR0

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rnemo

heh

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rnemo

what

brycec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ErxlI03V4 for context+gameplay

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brycec

^ all the fiancee's fault btw

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rnemo

aww
wait
fiancee?
congratulations!

[21:10]

brycec

gee really don't spend enough time in #devious ...
that was months ago
but thank you :)

[21:10]

rnemo

:)
yeah I haven't really been around

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brycec

for shame
SHAME i say
what's new with rnemo ?

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rnemo

idk not much
I don't officially have a computer yet (still) because I keep going back to the hospital, but I use my bfs
and more or less live at my bfs half the time

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brycec

see all that is "new"...
1) hospital why?

rnemo

because it's sort of hellishly difficult to get around in my own place

brycec

2) yay bf

rnemo

erm
were you there when I elucidated on why I'd been in the hospital so much in the first place

brycec

no... apparently not

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rnemo

ah
k well
as a person with multiple sclerosis, sometimes bad shit happens

brycec

(It's not like you've posted anything about it on G+... At least Zetas_ has the courtesy to do so)

rnemo

especially if you're me and don't take anything for it

brycec

had no idea you had ms

rnemo

or didn't
I used to tend to prefer to keep it that way
anyway, had some bad exacerbations
and I'm still not really recovered

brycec

well that's all super-sucky

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rnemo

right
did you know about the BF?

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brycec

I don't think so, don't seem to recall it

rnemo

k well
his name is James

brycec

(I read that as Jesus, and I have no idea why and that bothers me)

rnemo

it's been a few months
and unless something surprising happens I have absolutely no doubt in my mind engaged will be a word I'll be using in the coming year