sharvey, i need new windows
Mine are dumb are exchange heat all willy nilly
s/b are/b and/
Mine are dumb and exchange heat all willy nilly
WOAH GAIZ
NEW VERSION OF GIT
qbit, you have more github repos than google https://github.com/google
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6710/125/
stop making so much sense canada
Hai D:
s/D:/:D
Hai :D
fiunny bug in opendchub in ubuntu/debian
you can try to change the config all you want, when it starts up it will rewrite the config file with its defaults and start up without saying anything
luckily easy to fix by changing permission so it cant do that anymore
I SURE SHOWED YOU DIDNT I,  YOU DIDNT SEE THAT COMING DID YOU OPENDCHUB
ha
qbit: So APPARENTLY if you're stock + rooted + custom recovery, the OTA's don't get pushed to you
Well maybe. I just went back to stock and I still haven't received the the 4.2.1 update :(
qbit: Alright got it to push by clearing data in google services framework :) Yay stock
i wish we could change operating systems so that it says everywhere dick wherever disk was
"dick size: larger than 74% of other steam users"
your dick appears to be fragmented
scanning your dick for virusus
niteye: did your dick get quarantined?
it should be
niteye: ever get any breastmilk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7n1nrAaRJc not yet but this video clip is so cute it compells me to respect females more
YouTube Music: "[HD] Lenka - Trouble Is A Friend (New Version)" by muzikfanz02 (3m 27s), 1,078,085 views, 1,959 likes and 34 dislikes. Uploaded 2009-08-07T21:51:07.000Z.
well keep trying
i heard she had a wardrobe malfunction a while back
other end, though, i think
hola!
hi qbit
up, down, strange today?
:P
i must find a videoclip of that malfunction!
niteye: ? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=katy%20perry%20wardrobe%20malfunction&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dxwnp7-k-sqw&ei=Fna3ULfcGoeY9QSV_YDIDQ&usg=AFQjCNGzttKujYUsooHMO5RVJvCsAYeB3g
that might be it
benDos: mine or so clean
are*
and white
the narrator is annoying and it's censored :-(
niteye: too bad
sharvey, your windows?
that's okay though, ill just use my imagination
yes
Huh
it's annoying when computers do what i say, instead of what i mean
Use more Pascal?
ninjapants: so good of you to log in this morning ;-)
-.-
I've been busy.  y'know. *workin'*
howdy ninjapants
hiya!
I am surprised, I haven't had coffee today, but am still (mostly) alert
INCREDIBLE
I didn't drink much caffeine this weekend, and I've been experimenting with not having coffee.  No headache yet
i always get the "helmet feel" if i don't get my morning coffee
if you know what i mean
ninjapants: I get the WORST headaches when I go cold turkey by accident
Everytime I swear up and down that I'm done with caffeine
Until the next day
I normally do.  I'm not sure why this time is different, but so far so good.  I realized I was leaving at least half of my morning coffee in the mug, and I have some tasty teas that I've neglected
i refuse to listen to this crazy talk
I also have cut back the amount of crap I'm eating a lot.
Cheese is normally my weakness - but I haven't had a craving in a few days
which is *huge*
twss!
Cheese is awesome
it is.  but I realized last year that it's also  part of the reason I break out constantly (nothing huge, but still)
for some reason the hormones in the dairy interact with my face.  Within a few weeks of not eating cheese or dairy daily, I clear right up
Sucks to be a woman
I kid I kid
so, piroko exits qbit's friend zone?
I like where this is going
lal
http://cheezburger.com/45090305
qbit: haha nice
whoa
sigur ros sounding remix of a fuckbuttons song
yesplz
http://open.spotify.com/track/6R0iKZfNjebmwP7UrmWzDe
Error fetching information for http://open.spotify.com/track/6R0iKZfNjebmwP7UrmWzDe: Can't call method "find" on an undefined value
you shut your whore mouth BryceBot !
YOU SHUT YOURS qbit
damn, was hoping noembed had got their spotify shit together
BryceBot -- dampening qbit's excitement since November 2012!
ha
;D
anyone running full disk encryption on theys hot openbsd boxins?
I read this as you're prostituting yourself 08:30:39 < ninjapants> I've been busy.  y'know. *workin'*
pffft silly qbit, OpenBSD is soooo secure it doesn't need WDE
If the whole disk is encrypted, how does the bootloader read the kernel and stuff? (legit question) I know that on Linux systems, you keep an unencrypted partition for /boot stuffs... Do you do the same for *BSD?
they booklearnt boot(8) to do the encryption
sometimes i just want to give it all up and be a supermodel
haha
lteo how many iq points do you have to give up?
being a supermodel would be lame, having one around for recreational purposes sounds good though
zod000: you could have lteo
dbtid: enough that he might experience a freak gasoline fight accident
now BOTH your problems are solved
dbtid: i dunno, but i will just answer "world peace" to every question
lteo: you'd be better off answering "whirled peas"
haha
lteo: if you can't master Blue Steel, you won't get anywhere in modelling
they're ain't never gonna be "world peace"
zod000: I was thinking Magnum
dbtid: also a valid skill
i love the "IT'S THE SAME LOOK!" line from that movie.
me too
brycec: sometimes I feel that way.
"that way" -- like you wanna have sex with girls???
is lwhalen forcing you to, ninjapants ?
"that way" - like I'm prostituting myself.
dbtid: see scrollback or context
bad lwhalen ...or good?
brycec: nah, it's all work-related
no fun
exactly
I'm the person everyone goes to with their "little projects"
like: hey, I need a chart that has this little bit of info
ninjapants: one time, someone who i solved problems for said something like, "I could not do my job without you!" so i said, "Thanks; please tell my boss."
she did
next quarterly meeting, i got a check for a grand as a thank you
wow
nice
it helped that she was the HR boss
which turns into: oh, yeah, and I need a chart that goes with it that's clustered stacked bars with some lines included
excellent
dbtid: these are mostly from people in my group
and they all give me full credit for being awesome
aw, bummer
it's funny how often the words "and NJ put this together for us, which looks great.  and she did it so quickly!"
come up in our staff meetings
Sometimes I touch Unity and think "Gee, why did I hate this so much?" and as I think on it, I realize I'm using it at 640x480, and that when scaled to run on two screens at native resolution, it crrrraaaawwwlllled.
brycec: what's Unity?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(user_interface)
Unity (user interface) :: Unity is a shell interface for the GNOME desktop environment developed by Canonical Ltd for its Ubuntu operating system. Unity debuted in the netbook edition of Ubuntu 10.10. It is designed to make more efficient use of space given the limited screen size of netbooks, including, for example, a vertical application switcher called the launcher. Unlike GNOME, KDE Software Compilation, Xfce, or LXDE, Unity is not a collection.
ah
Hai
halla
moin
I just sat through an hour and a half discussion whether or not games are art
It was hella rough to actually sit there and not just walk out
Fucking undergrad.
hi kyl
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2128881_2129111_2129112,00.html
ha
oh 4chan
haha
kyl: annoyingly i found out that vmware.com themselves are offering fusion 5 at $29.99 also, but the electronic download version. had i known earlier i would've opted for the download.
coz i h9 physical media
heh this came with a flash drive which i <3
hi dbtid
lteo, why not qemu+kvm?
kyl: last night i upgraded fusion via the flash drive without even detaching it from the CD ;)
because that sucks
benDos: because i don't have enough brain cells to figure it out
lteo: heh, the macbok pros don't have CD drives brah
so i would have had to bring it into work
oh right forgot about htat
also i have a mac mini at work without a cd drive
but that is (was) running a trial version
lteo, qemu-manager really is pretty straight forward
They've gui;fied vm setup and maintaince if you prefer that
gui-fied*
i might check it out though i would dread having to disable mpbios in the openbsd kernel every time i upgrade just to make it run in kvm
Oh yeah i have no idea about kvm on obsd
also, kvm on os x is <<<< vmware fusion
it runs way slower and is a lot more of a pita
i've done it
and i have to do it if i want to emulate a mips machine
Yeah i only know qemu and kvm on linux
i'd certainly believe it's total shit on !linux
fusion fries on the mac
anyway, bbiab runch
s/r/h
anyway, bbiab hunch
ninja[chipotle]: you cruel bitch!
what the... Psy is up for Time person of the year???
lol EL James
brycec, who would you suggest if not Psy?
Mittens?
kittens
kindof want to see the words "pussy riot" on the cover
legitmacy aside, I think it would be funny
brycec: yeah, of all the important things going on the in the world, who REALLY gives a fuck about the guy who has the most watched youtube video?  someone is going to break that record, and then THEY'LL be POTY?
brycec: I know :D  It just opened up near my office.
ha
ninja[chipotle], that's baller.
I work across the street from a Chipotle... only ever been there (that location) once
brycec...
benDos...
not really a fan of chipotle
benDos: it's not a great lunch food imo
their meat has too much non-meat in it
the mcdonald's of mexican food
brycec, it's great lunch food knowning that the hour after lunch will be productivity forever lost
if i wanted gristle i'd go to mcdonald's
meh I've no complaints, never noticed any gristle ...
Maybe Chipotle[ohio] just hates you dbtid ?
or for that matter, sucks
Not that chipotle is the all best faux-mexican food
heh i don't go to chipotle anymore
but it's usually adequate
because qdoba 4eva
qdoba is superior
jk illegal petes
We don't have any of thse up here not even taco bell
hopefully ribo knows whats up
we have fajita grill
qdoba. queso.
IP is good too
ip is best
I should try Qdoba one of these days...
Moe's is pretty damn good
qdoba's ranchero burrito is muy bueno
get q queso burrito, then queso & chips
queeessssoooooo
damn, closest qdoba is about 10mi from work (one-way)
shitty
had the same problem when in denver
luckly, the first chipotle ever was like a block away, next to illegal pete's
haha
Ooh Spokane has THREE qdboas
(North, South Hill, and Valley)
i really don't care for chipotle
versus the ONE Chipotle in Spokane (downtown)
Moes and tiajuna flats are decent though, not sure how widespread those chains are
brycec, are you checking out your mexican food options before moving?
Moe's is surprisingly widespread... but they closed the shop that was near me, so now I'm sad
benDos: already done, repeatedly in fact
wb netsplit refugees
So you've picked out an apt in delivery range of as many as possible? :p
ha no (apt choices are kinda suck anyways)
Besides... since when is there mexican delivery?
I live in AZ and know of NO PLACES that deliver Mexican
or hamburgers, for that matter
I'm in central new york homie
And i can get a chimichango delivered right now if i wanted
i hate you
lol
i hate you so much
It's ok i just had a gyro, and started some coffee
nomnom
But... can you get a burger delivered?
there are actually services around here you can get anything delivered from anywhere else, but it is rarely worth the cost imo
zod000++
cheap zod is cheap
brycec, i tots can by like at least 5 or 6 places i can think of
what the hell. so not cool
I can actually get things like that delivered until like 4am
Not to brag or whatever
enjoy your extra limbs
jk
Just the one
;)
brycec, easymode cooking > delivery anyway
About 95% of the year, my apt is stocked with stuff to make tacos/burritos
zod000, delayed rebuttal I may grow some extra arms but you statistically already have or are about to fall into a sinkhole
benDos: my years of console video game training have trained me to avoid holes in the ground
To me that sounds like you're about to fall into a sinkhole
benDos: unlikely, but sinkholes really do suck
brycec, they are opening the 4th subway in my town
just opened*
more in the house ruining way than actually getting a person
All within 2 miles of each other on the same street
only 4 in your town?
zod000, limestone just isn't as baller a foundation as floridians of yesteryear thought
It was more that we have 4 of them within 2 miles on the same street it a <30k person town
Along other with sub shops ofc
it is too bad subway kinda sucks
i swear there are 30 in my area
i find their quality to be highly variable depending on the owner of the franchise
Yeah're hit or miss
Yeah
Some are ok subs for ok prices
Some pretty terrible
the one closest to work is abyssmal
damn!
boot(8) doesn't like my yubikey
the one near my house is decent, but there is a firehouse sub and quizno right down the road
yahoo!  ok, i don't have to muck about with 1 msec time resolution, which is sadly hard to get on this chip because none of the clocks are nice that way, and i'd end up having to do ugly integer division
and a publix
oh wait
it does
congrats dbtid
hot
what changed?
qbit: setting up FDE?
brycec: the requirement :)
swoot
i could have it done in the FPGA, but that's a hassle
jrick: si
New sets for amd64!
New sets for loongson!
schweet
i could give a time base of 1024 not 1000, but he didn't like that because if we change platforms, it might be hard to generate that on the next chip
so this is a good compromise
wtf just happened
I came back and the channel was empty
I'm still here.
Maybe you got a funny netsplit coming?
there was a netsplit, but it said netsplit - hexreel quit
I have no idea
I was going to tell brycec that the meat that I get at the chipotles I've been to has always been tasty
no gristle.
ugh
brycec, is here for me
forgot fire alarm tests were today
ninjapants: still here
ninjapants, maybe rejoin?
I did
I see 93 nicks in the channel
right, that's after I rejoined
well netsplits are fun
somethin' funky went down while I was grabbing foodz
dbtid: quick pm?
brycec: any time
:( more fire alarm tests
brycec: hell, if you want to call me on the phone, you can do that, too :)
will there be more I wonder
lol dbtid harder to send URLs that method :p
besides irc lets you leave it for later if you're busy now
just read off the characters brycec
ha
http://cheezburger.com/6796967168
hah
ha - this one's good, too http://cheezburger.com/6813015808
I know this must exist but i don't know of any
LaTeX-esce markdown languages?
A markdown that compiled to LaTeX would be neat
Can someone point me in the direction of something stablish?
markdown > html > latex
:P
Wut.
:P
:3
For like, you're particular web-centric use-case?
.ymf the\nright\nway
https://mdb.io/ymf/jDr.jpg
Or, generally?
your.
you wanted a markdown that compiles to latex
compile it to html first
then use one of 8902349820 html to latex tools
I guesss
IT'S UNIX. I KNOW THIS. PIPE ALL THE THINGS.
It was more wanting to latex stuff in markdown
But yeah
ribo++
or use pandoc
"you didn't say the magic word"
"cocaine"
dingdingding
markdown < html < latex
:D
HOLY CRAP an email from Pebble! I'd forgotten I'd pre-ordered a Pebble, it was that long ago...
latex > *
@wiki Pebble
Pebble :: A pebble is a clast of rock with a particle size of 4 to 64 millimetres based on the Krumbein phi scale of sedimentology. Pebbles are generally considered to be larger than granules (2 to 4 millimetres diameter) and smaller than cobbles (64 to 256 millimetres diameter). A rock made predominantly of pebbles is termed a conglomerate. Pebble tools are among the earliest known... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble
and finally, an email from them! (versus me hunting down info on the forums)
I remember I used to write all my papers in LyX
Que es un Pebble?
benDos: Pebble Watch
@wiki Pebble (watch)
Pebble (watch) :: The Pebble E-Paper Watch is an upcoming smartwatch.  Developers Pebble Technology had raised venture capital for the product under their former name inPulse, but after initially failing to attract traditional investors under their new brand name, in April 2012 the Pebble became the most highly funded Kickstarter project to date.      Development      Initial... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble%20%28watch%29
oh neat
you should just write in texinfo
wait
it's way superior
only problem I have with all these new awesome watches is battery life : (
brycec, didn't i just see swatch put that out
like 1:1 the same as the wiki image
heh ribo the only problem i have is i don't wear watches :p
well, that too
I might wear one if it was cool enough
like the pebble
pocket watch FTW
if it had like a 6month run time
was just gonna say
I have a pocket watch, it's called a cell phone
i don't even remember to grab my pocket watch most mornings
heh maybe benDos
ribo: how did you know my secret?
I've seen a few
mostly i just don't care about time
are you a time lord?
When Pebble was annoued and stuff, it was new and revolutionary
lol ribo
ribo: well i was
Hello
until i took an arrow to the knee
but small startup has been slow, and big companies have said "hey what a neat idea, let's do it too" and I think I've seen Sony with one on the market already
kusuriya: are you sworn to carry my burdens?
zod000: nope i am the thane!
... the DOD is building swarm drones that are anti drone attack drones XD
they are supposed to attack in swarms :D
x86 Surface with W8 Pro Coming in early 2013. Starting at $899. No matter what, I won't spen 900 fcking dollars on anything-surface!
JainAmber: a lot of people are looking at that though
remember microsofts only strength is tight intergration with everything they have every where
my company is looking at those for field techs and outside sales
makes more sense that anything i*
like my buddys RT surface was able to get on my wireless network find my Xbox and after a few seconds of telling my xbox he is approved he was playing youtube videos from the surface
on the xbox
then at the same time i was able to from my windows machine tap the stream and watch it
there is a group of people especially enterprises that are looking at adopting surface because of the fact it works soo well with the MSFT stack they already have
or so they can enforce gpo
^
 then again i can enforce policy on your ipad if i link it to my exchange serve :)
**server
not quite as much as you can with the w8 i imagine
actually pretty much yes :)
with android and ios it is pretty much just enforcing encrytion and passphrases
depending on what version of iphone/ipad it is
android mostly ignores most of the EAS profiles so EAS control is useless
nah, it follows it in any of the more recent versions
worse android will lie to your exchange server and tell it that it supports * and has implemented it
don't blame that on android, that can only be done via replacing the mail app with a rogue one
for all of our high security customers like banks Android* is blocked from EAS
same can be done via jailbreaking an iphone
suprisingly not, you can tell it to not implement a profile
incorrect
and if i look at your device it will show me the implementation of the profile failed
and that profile is not implemented
android (you must be rooted) will report back to my exchange server that it implemented the profile even though it didnt
if you root and then modify/replace the Email.apk, then yes
you dont have to replace the email.apk
there are apps to let you do it if you are rooted since its not that hard to do
you most certainly do, at least on 2.2 and 2.3
well, same difference, you are replacing the mail app
nope
the app sits between email.apk and the EAS stuff
since the exchange stuff is not built into email.apk its part of a different system object
oh, so it acts in the middle
yep
most of the exchange stuff is actually built into the email.apk
but you can still attack it from in thye middle
but regardless the fact that it can so easily be done on android is why a lot of our finacial customers for their secured exchange disallow android
it is not much harder on ios, but let them do as they wish
i could do it on winmo 6 as well
meh i dont make up their rules
was much more work though
actually on winmo6 you couldnt because it checksummed its EAS :P
i assure you i could, because i did
im willing to bet it didnt lie to the exchange server ;)
and if i audited the profiles it would tell me what profiles you have disabled or "failed"
if you say so
when you did it zod000 did you ever audit your exchange profile from the servers view
because i can tell when people stop profiles with their iOS device its pretty trivial
then again if it was me and i designed theese peoples security EAS would be off all together for their secured systems
because fuck your mobile device its to easily stolen and hacked
http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LOLlinguist.jpeg
lwhalen: excellent
score
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x1hLREgL194
YouTube Comedy: "Harvard Sailing Team - Hipster Thanksgiving" by HSTSketchComedy (4m 59s), 390,212 views, 2,703 likes and 96 dislikes. Uploaded 2012-11-21T18:55:56.000Z.
lol I'm tethering on edge
I've done that before... was better than nothing at least
Hell, I've tethered on GPRS
True. And ssh + compression really isn't even bad
piroko, no mosh?
mosh was that latency tolerate screen + openssh mashup right?
benDos: oh you ported that to openbsd?
:P
and a weak GPRS signal no less - I hung my RAZR (those things had freakishly slow UARTs to start with) on the door of the hotel room in order to get any signal, and BT tethered from there.
kusuriya, I go about my life under the assumption that if i have it in linux you have it in openbsd
As i don't use openbsd
benDos: no screen, just latency-tolerant ssh
It hasn't really lead me to any issues
brycec, i thought it had some other features that were screen-y
would you like to be led into some issues? we know of some ;)
it will for things like MOSH since no one has had the desire to port
:P
We had a tangential discussion last night
About qbit liking obsd cause nothing works and instead of being productive he's secure
I like linux cause it's easymode
:p
lol
meh i like good code
tangential
kusuriya, so you run netbsd?
too bad FBSD has issues with this system
:p
benDos: i said good code not architecture compatibility :P
qbit, what's wrong about tangential?
I like reactOS, because..umm..ok i don't
i like it
benDos: I ssh to devious
Which doesn't have mosh
piroko, gotcha
..but pipes
=D
Though now that my home connection is stable I can give it a try...
but SSH Compression once you get SSH set right is very latency tolerant
I like Solaris cause SPARC is sexy for certain workloads.
:)
I dislike Solaris cause udev,systemd,native kvm,and Larry Ellison.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/videos/crazy-lady-and-vacuum-cleaner-man/
I just got spam "Explosive Deals On Used Cars" harharhar
benDos: whats wrong with KVM :o
kusuriya, nothing
But i like native kvm
then why do you dislake solaris for having it ;)
kvm attached to other operating systems varies greatly in quality
For not having native kvm, udev, or systemd
And having far too much Larry Ellison.
qbit: in that HST video, when they drink coffee that's how i imagine you do it brah
devfs just depresses me.
well yeah the ellison is the dealbreaker for me
that and the wireless drivers they are missing for no good reason
And the lack of udev.
Hah
Fair enough
meh what they use instead of Udev does work better
Am i really the only one with such a strong preference for devfs than udev?
er
udev over devfs*
probly
s/$/ in here
probly in here
but solaris uses somthing a bit different
It's more or less an old bsd style devfs
At least in solaris, um
10 or 9
I think 10 is what i've used mostly
haha
kyl: i totally is
I am a respectable lady! I will not take this lying down!
every cup
wut.
hah
latter 10 and 11 use somthing similar to devfs but it is vastly different when you dig into it
I KNEW IT
kusuriya, locally mounting usb on solaris thin clients is pretty painful
benDos: never has been for me
Instead of doing the normal "Hey you plugged in a usb stick i mounted it here for you"
qbit: put a turkey in your butt brah
TWSS!
benDos: it always automounts for me
k
Well it does automount
but maybe thats because i know how to use it ;)
Just in a weird location
its right there in my desktop :P
but solaris has a lot of shitty bits :(
It automounts, in my setup anyway, in like /opt/someshit/someothershit/$USER/tmpsomething/something/deviceid
We also have a bunch of nfs partions that usually are machine local
if you want easy mode unix just install OSX :)
That's a weird way to abbreviate ubuntu.
Ubuntu technically is not unix
its never been certified
OS X is
^fact
OS X is a true BSD
kyl: ^
.addtroll OS X is a true BSD
OS X is a true BSD: was added
benDos: that is also a fact :P
I think the notion of a certified BSD has maaaybe lost some of it's meaning since 1987?
kusuriya: ask kyl what he thinks of OS X as a true BSD ;)
Vocally or sarcastically strongly opposed or fore
If i had to guess
benDos: actually OS X has a true certifcation from the UNIX group, no linux distro or BSD distro having it is the reason its all *nix and not Unix ;)
BSD for legal reasons cant call its self unix because of a lawsuit
lteo: bro you mean The One True BSD?
The UNIX group?
benDos: yep
kusuriya: btw about what you said the other day, is it true apple geniuses are even aware of OS X's BSD stuff?
http://www.unix.org/
I know of the unix group
lteo: some are
I was just unaware that anyone cared what they said
benDos: the unix group holds the copyrights to unix
well, technically to call yourself unix you have to pass their certifications
Post SCO?
and if you use unix with out their permission they will sue your ass off
suenix
benDos: even post SCO they own the copyright to the name
Right
My point is "unix certified" used to really mean something
Evening folks. What is usually the lunch break in US?
Now, at least in my work/dev/etc community
it's more a joke than anything else
now linux, based on popularity, is hijacking that
even if you dont think it means mich now it still means a lot to enterprise
and you still cant call yourself unix without it
they just whatever dumb shit they want (systemd, pulse, etc)
CyL: all the time since everyone's goofing off all the time
and it gets called unix pretty much
kyl, you don't like systemd?
:/
im meh on systemd
i do not
kyl, how come?
I really enjoy it
Despite it not really being unix's in that is' pretty monolithic
And maybe joining repos with udev was premature
s/premature/premature/unnessesary
And maybe joining repos with udev was premature
Thanks lazylopez_ you're the best.
the basic unix philosophy is do one thing and do it well
lteo: I mean, I tried to call someone in US, in Massachusetts, and I know it is a quarter to 2 pm right know. Would people normally be at a lunch break in USA this time?
it's not as easy to hack on
kyl, i get that
I really do
it's way too monolythic
its a bit of a mess honestly
the fuck
monolithic
In practice the nicities outweigh it being so big and do everything-y
Logging is just so much nicer
socket activation again, so much nicer
systemd > init.d much nicer
Individually anyway
like a lot of stuff linux the code and the function is kinda sloppy and seems to have a philosphy of "we will fix it in version 2"
CyL: it really depends, some people take lunch break earlier and some later
that thought process is what bit microsoft in the security ass for many years
i think it's an answer in search of a problem
^
lteo: Sure, but I mean the usual break.
^^^
adds complexity and overhead to a problem we've already solved
To me it simplified a lot of things
And makes existing things faster and easier to use
quit wasting time on shit like that and work on doing more useful things
like what
init.d was pretty simple
amen brotha
CyL: I would say that there isn't a "usual" break, besides maybe 12pm-1pm
the systemd journal, at least sounds, like the correct way to do logging
brycec: Okay, thanks.
now, you've just increased the work load
CyL: I took lunch at 10am, so ymmv
init to systemd better lets you express deps imo in processes
a bunch of people now have to figure out how the fuck to integrate systemd if they want to jump on board, or face getting shut out
plus async ftw
thats not really any simpler or better than the dmesg/syslog output
CyL: but that break applies to <50% of the working population. Lots of people take [lunch] breaks at different times
kusuriya, it really really is
Strings suck
benDos: init.d could start async
devs that could be doing something actually productive with their lives now have to spend time on this
kyl, integrating with systemd is trivial
it increases the barrier to entry
you know this
you can give it an init script and get a systemd script back
benDos: it really isnt because systemd is still spitting strings out
not if your system is built around rc.d
zod000, brycec, lteo: It is just that I got an answering machine, so I thought that was calling at a bad time.
kusuriya, no
it compresses and dedups
the on disk format is objectively far far better
benDos: it compresses and dedupes strings
for the systemd journal than dmesg
CyL: It seems more likely they didn't hear it, were busy, or didn't want to answer
CyL: some people just don't answer their phones or are in meetings and can't answer
or pooping
And index I believe
which various systemloggers were able to do
or getting coffee, or whatever other bs
kusuriya, right
few to none were default
Heh
BTW, would anyone recommend a good RFID module manufacturer company?
again that doesnt make systemd any simpler
I <3 any in disk format that is indexable
CyL: module being...?
that actually makes it more complex
simpler to do interesting things with
also
rfid reader, or card?
more complex in implementation
brycec: The transceptor that would interface to a computer.
lennart poettering is involved
Well yeah
and more complex in use
But people are auditing his code kyl :p
kusuriya, i haven't found that to be true
different, but not more complex
because now if i want to centralize it i have another piece of software to deal with
instead of having it all pumped into my system logger which i already have setup to export logs
I believe you can just tell systemd which logs go where
local files or remote transport
anyways, those are my feelings
you are free to choose what you want for your distro
but i won't be supporting anything using systemd
its still another piece of software you now have to configure :P
Fine.
kyl: sooner or later with how things go you may not have a choice sadly
let's merge systemd and autotools
kusuriya: or i stop using linux
We can agree that systemd will not bring about the year of the linux desktop
make linux go the way of windows in my life
kyl: most BSDs are looking at having to port and use things like udev and systemd due to applications pulling in more and more linuxisms
and the AF_BUS in kernel is lovely
but systemd is like pulseaudio
http://lwn.net/Articles/504722/ short description if you're curious
a solution in search for a problem
kyl, will you refuse to use AF_BUS?
In favor or muuuuuuch more expensive 0mq or similar?
s/or/of/
In favof of muuuuuuch mofe expensive 0mq of similar?
damn typod.
I don't know enough about AF_BUS to comment
0mq is awesome
^
guys
gusy
NODE
and multiplatform, and network-friendly, and and and
qbit: bro ZMOG RLY
AF_BUS is AF_UNIX + reliable multicast more or less
qbit: node > *?
we should just write an os in node
for performance
For proximity to metal.
for baremetal performance
benDos: AF_BUS looks more like its AF_UNIX with dbus and multicast roled into it
Beat ya to it brycec !
kusuriya, dbus in AF_BUS?
by 1 second... I shouldn't have paused to consider adding emphasis to _baremetal_
so i dont know if its anybetter or worse
some just said roll. did they mean spring roll? i'm here now
benDos: according to what you linked thats one of its goals
mmm spring rolls
ohai lt	
Well yeah
That's what she said!!
awyeah
But it isn't integrated with af_bus
replace dbus due to resorce starvation
that's it's main target
wait
did qbit say node?
brycec: <3
WHAT
lol, she said "Well yeah"
but dbus's message passing is not very different from most other message passing
lots of pubsub and you'd like reliable multicast
i'm glad i have regained my +virginity even after offending a #devious god
im not sure why an IPC would need multicast honestly
its an IPC
You can implement exchangers without unix sockets
kusuriya, my irc bot does multicast ipc
lteo: I got tired of seeing a space before your nick. You're still on ice.
lol
kusuriya, each message gets pushed out on a multicast socket
all the plugins see the messages and respond accordingly
i use 0mq pubsub in my bot as well
Yeah pubsub is really quiet common
Having it in kernel with badass af_unix underlying support makes it about as fast as you can hope for it to be
kyl: talking bout speed, did i read it right in your benchmarking post that ruby is faster than pythong? ;)
lol
I seem to recall the very opposite
i don't remember the numbers offhand, is definitely possible
I would imagine it depends on the workload and language implementation
and highly likely
benDos: that still doesnt awnser why id want it :P
pubsub?
multicast IPC
Right, pubsub.
^
@wiki Publish-Subscribe Design Pattern
Messaging pattern :: In software architecture, a messaging pattern is a network-oriented architectural pattern which describes how two different parts of a message passing system connect and communicate with each other.  In telecommunications, a message exchange pattern (MEP) describes the pattern of messages required by a communications protocol to establish or use a communication... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messaging%20pattern
Um
very very useful
benDos: um yourself -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Publish-Subscribe+Design+Pattern
Publish–subscribe pattern :: In software architecture, publish–subscribe is a messaging pattern where senders of messages, called publishers, do not program the messages to be sent directly to specific receivers, called subscribers. Instead, published messages are characterized into classes, without knowledge of what, if any, subscribers there may be. Similarly, subscribers express interest in one or more classes, and only receive messages that 
haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOtzvi4tiig
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now i'm caught watching HST
kusuriya, "Hey every active program that cares, there's a usb stick now at /dev/whatever" etc
"Hey every program that cares, the network interface just went down/up" etc
benDos: meh i just havent delt a lot with IPC honestly
directly anyway
I've done a fair bit, on unix sockets and with network protocols
i have used it quite a bit
it?
That's what she said!!
BryceBot, no
Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'it?'
last time i even started looking into it i was thinking of playing wiht HURD
and it made my head hurt
That's what she said!!
The kernel based IPC has several benefits for D-Bus over the userspace
emulation:
 - Context switching between userspace processes is reduced.
 - Message data copying is reduced.
 - System call overheads are reduced.
 - The userspace D-Bus daemon was subject to resource starvation,
   client contention and priority inversion.
 - Latency is reduced
 - Throughput is increased.
Sorry for flood :/
I said sorry :/
ha
that's what put you over the edge!
Ok
phew
no no, it was the same time as I hit enter
besides, I didn't know how many more lines would flood
at least you didn't lose your +virginity, benDos
:D
:p
Hay.
ha
Not cool mang.
yeah it's not cool to hang out with lteo. i get that
"not cool" would be if I removed +V from you :P
but yeah I wont argue the merits for AF_BUS i dont know enough about the topic :D
_^: hi Guest38271
damnit _^ get a real nick
kusuriya, fair enough
oh hai piro^wGuest234234
You guys suck
kusuriya, but those are the kind of use cases that dbus makes way easier
Without that kind of centralized setup
:D
It just sucks to standardize that kind of thing
i don't even know what kind of facial expression _^_ would be
.|.. :D
haha
ok, benDos
I love you
mosh
Is amazing
Heh :p
Kew
Thanks btw
yeah i like the idea behind mosh
i have never used it
i just wish it wasnt GPL3
Neither have it qbit :p
I totally just disabled an entire interface, enabled another interface, and it reconnected
have I
I mean it makes sense since it's udp
But still. Fucking mindblown
makes me never want to hack on it honestly
kusuriya: How about dishonestly?
kusuriya, at what point is linux not unix
I mean it ships a ton of non-kernel things in tree
yesss another launch coin is coming
That's what she said!!
benDos: at the point its not certified to call itself UNIX ;)
linux was a unix clone from the start
It's largely arbitrary imo and for systemd the things that become easier out weight the potential for more complicated code bases
but seriously its getting further and further away from unix like
That's a good thing
systemD honestly provides no real benifit that wasnt already there
mosh has had a couple of vulns
I just told you the benefits kusuriya  :/
you did
and some of the way it does things don't strike me as being suitably secure
and all those things were already there
For applications and users, integration between programs gets easier
It standardizes a lot of ad hoc solutions
there was already a pretty basic standard there
was there?
I thought there were a few
And programs had to deal with a bunch of locations to check for things
accessing the systemlog was pretty standard and pretty easy to access
But slightly different log formats between various programs
Also may have required root
May have disclosed non-related things
It's a software engineering win, and a unix philosophical lose
requireing elevated perms to read system logs doesnt strike me as a problem
meh call it what you want
I feel like i'm not going to convince you.
Oh well
nope
I never convince anyone of anything in here...
because again its a solution looking for a problem
Baaaah
had there been an actual problem to solve ;)
for example, pulse audio was a good example of a problem being solved
we need more of that
right lteo?
wait whut
it's too bad openbsd hasn't gotten its ass in gear and added support
lteo, pulseaudio
haha
lteo: it's the best audio subsystem ever isn't it? brah
are you saying it's not!?
benDos: you have me sort of convinced about AF_BUS as a consoleation prize
one way to tell if a subsystem is good or not..
is if it has a beard
^
no beard.. no good
frankly i don't know anything about audio on *nix
wish there was someone named "frankly" in the chan
i wonder if rubinius will make ruby less painful
what is rubinius?
how is ruby painful?
lteo, the onyl way to make ruby better is jruby
I'm sorry
kyl, rubinus is like pypy
self hosted ruby
the only way to make ruby better is to uninstall it
kusuriya, i'll convince you about systemd
for now i'm doing maths though
kyl: from website "Rubinius is software that translates the code for the Ruby programming language such as"
kusuriya: that made ruby 100% better for me
jruby on openjdk 7
puts "hello world"
benDos: the only way you could is if you could find an actual problem systemd solved
and turns it into efficient machine code like this
push %rbp; mov %rsp, %rbp; push %rbx; subq $0x98, %rsp; cmp $0x0, 0x10(%rcx); call 0xffffffffff472010; jmp 0x9c; …
ha
lteo, that asm doesn't seem terrible?
Though annotated asm is way easier to read, cause i have no idea what is at 0xffffffffff472010;
i dunno brah, last i wrote asm was 17 years ago
Fuck i mean i'm quietly doing math and not on irc..
objdump == <3 though
lteo is a slacker!
meh, rubinius just became unusable for me. ruby 1.9 not supported
brycec: that's unfortunately true right now in terms of OSS contribution ;)
jruby supports 1.9....
:( i need a new programming laptop
i have a problem with the 'j' ;)
i have a problem with the ruby part
so its rounded :D
lteo, i can't think of a good reason why you'd be fine with ruby but not java
Not that there aren't good reasons to dislike java
benDos: Hipser
inf problems?
ruby has most if not all of those traits though
Ruby syntax looks like someone pulled off all the symbols from their keyboard, inserted them into a shotgun and shot them into a $20 hooker that had been dead for 3 days..
might not be possible to roll out java to everything?
...but you only write java once
not as hipster as qbit
then run it everywhere
or doing so would require drastic changes to everything?
You can't clone a clone
der
They tried that with Dolly
All the dna just broke 'n shit
multiplicity told me you can clone a clone
so you _can_ clone a clone, just that the dna breaks
and hollywood has never lied to be before
**me before
lteo, but you need the dna for the clone to really be a clone
otherwise it's just a bunch of spaghetti code
benDos: just a few details doesn't matter
Fine
What if i did your ruby and you did my calculus
that seems fair.
benDos: ill do your calculus but you have to do my engineering department application
you sure you want me to do your calculus? i thought you wanted to graduate ;)
lteo, i reallllly want to graduate
whatever, lteo is a doctor... OF SCIENCE
he can make it happen
Yeah lteo i figured you must be good at calculus
lol
I thought you did a lot of crypto stuffs
lteo is a science hero
lordy i can't type "make"
comes out mkae every time
Or not math-y crypto stuff?
benDos: no brah that was one of my professors. i only did the typesetting for one of the crypto conference proceedings
Oh
Ok
i did give a few lectures on crypto though but i've forgotten most of it
Fine don't do my calculus then
you could have just said that
No need for a long backstory
That's what c0sh said!
Idk that came off as facetious
I'm just cranky today
Sorry
no worries brah
:P
benDos: stop stressing you get to do funstuff
:)
What do you mean?
I've been cocking back and swinging my face with great force into the brick wall of calc 2 for too damn long
you're almost done
never give up! never surrender!
:D
thanks to qbit for saying that to me back then
haha
thank the super nintendo for saying it to me!
And after all this i'll have a lonely Bachelors of Art degree
wew swapping four and a half gigs
lol batchelor of arts
http://opensourceecology.org/
Science > Art
qbit: ive been following that since they started
shutup..
I know but that's the degree i'm getting
at least your degree isn't BS ;)
dont know its a BA most BAs are BS :D
Tbh it seems to not matter tbh
it really doesn't
i actually want a BSE
but i need to find the time
I have a degree in comp sci and if someone talks to me for more than a minute they'll know i'm better than most master's they'll speak to
funny, because in other countries there are so many Bachelor of (whatever)
In Futurama there's Bachelor Chow
yeah
But i don't think that's what you're talking about
gaiz
my bachelor's degree is Bachelor of Computing ;)
i'm going back to werk
*whoosh*
Bye benDos!
halo thar guize
aw
$ ruby poop
ruby: No such file or directory -- poop (LoadError)
oh i misspelled it as pooop
lol
lol
Lol so my class uses math terms not found anywhere else online
lawlz
hate it when my poop has a load error
but from out textbook
super cool
that was fast
I drank a lot of coffee today though
so my poop should load doublequick
i don't care what y'all say, but ruby's Array.delete_if is kinda awesome
it's ok, I love ruby too
ribo: any opinion on rubinius?
*ahem* the 'thong's generator expressions
though i am caring less and less about python erraday
lamb duh
hmm wonder how hard it would be to make an email/calendar notifier using AF_BUS
lteo: I'll care more when its 1.9 compat
will you care less and less about Go someday? ;)
ribo: same
lteo: bro possibly
i'm open to that
i mean, i was all about python until Go came along
a Go-killer is feasible
but ruby is not that
python people have serious ruby envy
i didn't
i don't like ruby because i've used it
they even try to make fun of ruby in comments, hurr hipsters use ruby & wear tight jeans
etc.
heh
oops i do wear tight jeans
meh C# > ruby is all i can say
lol
they're just jealous because ruby devs are all about ascii dongs and no one points that out
when ruby has an entire OS programmed out of it ill consider chaning my position
the only thing i use python for anymore is ipython-type tasks
stuff in a repl
man fuck you linux mint
all i want is monodevelop
aw, where's the pun in that?
whoa an actual linux mint user found in the wild
an actual mono user in the wild, too
pretending that C# is relevant
:D
fucking. mosh. holyshitthisiscool
I keep switching from ethernet to wifi just to watch it reconnect. lol
lol
This fucking guy
http://i.imgur.com/X4hbx.jpg
Hullo
I just had this conversation with my friend:
Friend: All I wish is that there were more hours everyday! ...... Me: As long as elon musk is alive, I think someday we might have days longer than 24 hours! :D
;)
i like that delayed ;) effect
:D  <--  This one also belongs to previous conversation!
(sorry for the delay)
:P  <--- My reply to lteo's comment!
qbit: Fuck you
wat
qbit: You made me laugh out loud at work
Now people know
lol
\o/
I am now going to disconnect my laptop from ethernet, walk my computer over to a friend to show him this image, and then come back and watch mosh reconnect
aw, piroko exits qbit's friend zone and now piroko is giggling at qbit's jokes over the intarwebs. young love..
d'awee
:D
Woo
Submitting this exam
yay!
Which i am near 100% certain i failed
hooray
higgidy
Few things frustrate me more than failing math tests cause they disallow the tools I use to do math
that is totally not math
matlab is not allowed on your tests?
What?
sheesh!
bastards.
This made me literally laugh out loud 13:04:50 <+piroko> qbit: You made me laugh out loud at work
it made you llol?
lteo: The huehuahua thing? Yes
I'm currently watching the mosh techincal youtube video. It's really interesting
piroko: i was referring to brycec's "literally laugh out loud" as "llol"
anything techincal must be interesting
output from my poop script
$ ruby poop
yo
^ that indicates success, yay!
What if it had output nosotros?
yo poop!
does anyone happen to know what protocol java in a browser uses to check if a signed applet is ok?
lteo, network protocol or the actual signing?
netowrk protocl
network protocol
TCP + SSL cert classes?
I believe it checks the cert locally
ah ok
I'm not 100%
for applets but for java security managers in general
they do local checks
ok thanks. it kinda makes sense if they already have local CA certs and stuff
lteo: oh
I actually thought it relied on the system's crypto perhaps not though
fuck me. This was one of the best technical presentations I've ever seen
I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't use your systems trusted ca's
http://mosh.mit.edu/#techinfo
This guy is a baller
a ballmer?
@chairflip
... mcchunkie
no
har har har
I assume some of you have suggestions for being more productive when living with a significant other?
I've found i get much less work done since my gf moved in
Instead of spending my nights coding cause i don't have something better to do, i do stuff with her
benDos: There is no suggestion. Enjoy your time with her :)
I do
But i think at the expense of my classwork
Tell her you have to get yo shit done
..oohkay
Maybe i just need to drop off irc till after the semester's over
We'll see
I liked to go to panera with my (now) wife. She would read reddit or a book or something while I did my homework with my headphones on
Hmm
Or when she was in college she would do work too. lol
Yeah I have the same problem benDos
Yeah my gf just finished school and i'm not done yet
though we find time to do our own thing too
i really just need to better manage time for busywork i have to pay to do
(most of my coursework)
That's really the key
I have to write a paper on whether video games are art, and cite it
and shit like that just rubs me the wrong way
Why it matters is perhaps a more interesting question
why college matters is a question in itself
Also why is it so fucking expensive in the US
But "Are Video Games Art?" is not interesting or inciteful
true
Tbh engineering degrees have a purpose imo
But my cs track also requires i take a bunch of math, the math dept is small so all the upper division math is taught for people who are becoming math teachers
I wish they required more math from cs tbh
Just not taught in a way that expects us to be teaching it to someone else on a blackboard
It's fucking annoying and i don't think i'll be able to get over it
OK edge tethering + mosh is awesome. I can totally tether to my hearts content, not worry about going over on my data plan, and ssh is still usable
And it makes me feel hipster for using ancient cell technologies
If you really wanted to feel hipster, you'd master dc
qbit, might not even be hipster enough to use dc on a regular basis
dc?
The calc app?
Yup
rpn yo
dude fuck that I have an hp48g and an hp32 sitting on my desk right fucking now
pish
my calculator uses DC
...dc is arbitrary precision
the one true current
aren't those fixed point piroko?
benDos: Yes
So there
When you need to be accurate to 116 decimal places
dc is the app you want
I'll no longer be a programmer :P
s/p/b
I'll no longer be a brogrammer :P
Idk
holy mercury water!
So google translate doesn't speak persian..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240160/Irans-navy-showcases-bright-new-warship---damage-wont-coming.html
I was curious if the persian word for turquoise was any manlier
http://translate.google.com/#auto/fa/turquoise does not help.
maybe the iranian elite forces wear turquoise uniforms
I hope so
I'd lol something fierce
benDos: just noticed your rant above. i feel for you bro, the university system is totally broken
kusuriya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhn3rTnpk0g
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wat
kusuriya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct21YCEiWMM
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wtf
or, kusuriya, how about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIjA0qnU_hc
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what is this garbage I'm looking at
i dunno, what garbage are you looking at?
OH BAWWWWMAAA
guy is a tool lol
hmm?
oh the alex jones videos
this stuff you just posted lol
i'm guessing you don't know who he is
I don't
the reason i said " kusuriya: "
was because no one else here knows who he is
dude is hilarious
It's really fun fucking around with mosh's predictive echo engine
Making it delete my prompt and shit
oh I know who Alex Jones is... and that's why I didn't waste my time clicking :p
I'm gonna leave my mosh session up and sleep my laptop and take my laptop home and see what happens tomorrow when I open it back up at work
quick -- someone hack piroko's bidness and disconnect him!
yer a quick
Opened up laptop after I got home. ssh still connected
Fuck yea
aw man
jelly
jelly you say
does that mean
it's peanut butter and jelly time?
jealous
pfft that's not as much fun as pbj time
sharvey: Why are you jelly? Install mosh!
piroko, can you run SOCKS over mosh?
I suppose i could just google that....
neat
seems so
can you vpn over it? :O
"Letting the Internet be rewired by bureaucrats would be like handing a Stradivarius to a gorilla." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324352004578136902821852508.html
win
the quote anyway
mmmm... I just averaged 300MB/s write speed to rotating media
How big of a write?
bs=128M
I mean overall
how many rotating media?
benDos: about 40G
Lefty: 4 drives :P
and read was 465MB/s
Oh across 4 drives yeah that sounds pretty solid
RAID0?
ZFS zpool
Hah yeah raidz=<3
not raidz
just a zpool
Isn't that the same thing?
I don't do much zfs
no, raidz is raidz
I can tell you in detail about the internal caching algorithms it uses for pages but i don't remember the userspace stuff :x
it's only raidz if you set it up as raidz (zpool create $name raidz blah blah blah)
gotcha
That's pretty sweet io
but this is just plain zpool which is a lot like raid0
yeah it is :)
Gotcha
now to destroy and test raidz performance
I get in the mid to upper 200's on my RAID10
That said it's with about 5 year old WD desktop drives
And RAID10 != RAID0 :p
Now THIS is what I call performance! (fuck yeah caches) 3355443200 bytes transferred in 2.079781 secs (1613363672 bytes/sec)
1.6GB/s
that doesn't look like bonnie++?
It's dd
quick and dirty test
That's what c0sh said!
Do a quick bonnie test :p
fine
Yay
brycec, did you catch http://youtu.be/-qv7k2_lc0M ?
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no I didn't bother
you don't???
lol
http://goatse.cx
:o
Oooh a .cx, it must be friendly and safe for the family!
@tld cx
The top-level domain 'cx' is used for: Christmas Island.
^
brycec: i know thats why goatse lost their domain
:P
and now its owned by some one offering free email ...
...
launch rock needs a lesson in internet history
woo finalyl starting the rewriting phase
benDos: You can???? I imagine that wouldn't work well
Because mosh was programmed specifically with terminal emulation in mind
Also, FUCK MEDIASERVER
er wait
That might actually be because I was playing music today lol
It's pretty neat being able to just open my fucking laptop and have irc just waiting for me
there are only two good fonts for programming
or whatever
comic sans and?
and GohuFont
wingdings
and the one xterm uses
lefty is correct
revberaldo loses
i've become a fan of anonymous pro
haha, I'm not playing on level hard
revberaldo: well, that was your final life, so i guess that's game over
thanks for playing though!
Bitstream vera!
does that mean I'll have to wait for respawn time?
Lefty: i tried it, but it didn't look as good
kyl, it's a good font, but I remember it being not sharp
revberaldo: you'll have to wait until the next game
I like when fonts look sharp
revberaldo: i'm looking at it on a retina display... it's sharp
this display has made me much pickier
you mean a display with a decent resolution
well, I don't have one, unfortunately
what's the resolution by the way?
one sec
1920x1200 on a 15" screen
hm i thought retina was higher
not on the mbp
that's pretty good
^
yeah
has already ruined all the backgrounds i had before
i cant argue with it because its awesome, and you have one
can't set the profound programmer backgrounds anymore
don't get me wrong, i still <3 my x230's 1366xwhatever display
but this is extremely crisp
yeah i wish more people gave the 1920x1200 option
ha, I guess it is
because i really have issues with how apple builds their systems now
you're running OS X?
kusuriya, agreed
the soldered ram is like a giant middle finger
yes
and i have the thinkpad as my upgradeable system / portable server
Apple hardware looks good and has decent amounts of power. I'd have one. I'd never run OS X though.
my new wallpaper thanks to kyl: http://i.imgur.com/0z831.jpg
it's exactly how it feels to try getting tables and figures in reasonable places in LaTeX
i have the posters of http://i.imgur.com/ES6sP.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/S4N65.jpg
LOL
kusuriya: did you see the videos i linked you earlier?
oh mang you gaiz are making me remember the horrible LaTeX stuff i tried hard to forget
\clearpage!
>{\centering\arraybackslash}m{5cm}!
kyl: i didnt
but i got them pulled up
man whats really going to irritate me is when intel moves to BGA procs
lteo: bro never forget!
forgetting is the first step of repeating
im kinda irritated that IWL doesnt seem to do 300 megabit wireless n :(
(on loonix)
revberaldo: -.-
\SI{196,5}{\ml}! (that's actually pretty cool)
My resume is still in latex
I thought about moving it to xml or markdown, but I like the result of my current template
i wrote my resume in mandoc :o
heh we are going to get some mac minis
zenmower: i have one at work
to use in a distributed search cluster project
i just have unpleasant memories fighting with numerous templates the night before submission deadline
kyl: my boss might leave
=(
he got another offer
nice
good for him
yeah
 i will be the head nigger in charge
I think we shouldn't use LaTeX for anything that's not going to be published
why not use XML or HTML?
so much better.
revberaldo: my resumé was published
but I love LaTeX
mandoc supports html and pdf output
that's a pretty good use of LaTeX, kyl
there will be some architecture changes
revberaldo: but my resumé is not in LaTeX
as well as language changes
zenmower: moar coldfusion
as well as i better get moar monies
kyl, it should be!
kyl no moar
thing about PDF output
revberaldo: why? it looks good now
and - it's a man page
they can install it on their computer and look me up whenever
you can't really control typography to the extent you can in LaTeX
apropos kyl
but i don't need to control typography, i pretty much just print the plain text version anyways
and give that to people
kyl, that's such a cool idea
there's very few people who *won't* accept a .txt file
I'll print the plain latex
and give THAT to people
revberaldo: i didn't say the source, i said the plain text version
if YOU'RE gonna hire me, you'd better be prepared
kyl, I know, I'm just stretching the idea
typical
huh wtf? bonnie++ on my FreeBSD box is 1.96, and on my Arch box it's 1.03e. how the hell does that work?
wb zdo
benDos: Since you were interested http://sprunge.us/IWZQ
hummina!
(SSD - 3x 120GB SATA II drives)
YOURANSS!
D
(RAIDZ1/NONRAIDZ - 4x 2TB SATA II drives hanging off a RAID controller as JBOD, PCIe x8)
now what the heck is qbit prattling on abotu?
damnit I have never found Tina Fey more attractive than i do now
fantastic ep
of 30 Rock
that show is still running?
yes
yes, it is.
season 7, ep 7
more surprisingly, The Office is in season 9
I find her fantastically attractive
qbit: Tina Fey dressed up as Princess Leia, blammo.
s/f/m/
qbit: Tina Fey dressed up as Princess Leia, blammo.
lol
i know it's not the first time, but she looked better this time... but I can't tell you ;)
need to relearn irssi
omg
I got go-gtk working on 64-bit windows
nice jrick
heh
i do not envy you
but this means I can use golang for my serior design project
your sr design project being... reimplementing Xombrero in Go?
no, I wish.
we building a robot to paint football fields
and I'm writing the gui frontend
the controller program
communicates wireless using XBees to the robot
wirelessly
nicee
it's pretty sweet, using lazers for localized navigation
:D
that is pretty sweet
wow
laser*
majorlazor
it's ok guys I'm an engineer no need to spell
wow, surprising performance boost with RAIDZ-2
benDos: results with RAIDZ-2 too http://sprunge.us/hMgT
"Congrats, you leveled up! You've unlocked the T-Rex achievement for having at least one original repo where C is the dominant language. Only 8% of developers on Coderwall have earned this."
There really ought to be more C repos on GH
i'm doing what i can
i have 26
if coderwall is to be believed
hm
this coderwall is nice
marvelous what this internet can do these days
hah brycec did you just endorse my goishness?
yes ky
*kyl
wb Omegle_Bot
Thanks, kyl