#arpnetworks 2019-06-03,Mon

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WhoWhatWhen
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mhoran_Is this thing broken?
Weird.
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maxpyou successfully posted a message to this channel mhoran_ [13:17]
mhoran_I can't /whois the existing mhoran, which is odd. And I can't take the nick back.
Oh there we go.
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mhoranNever seen a /whois hang so I figured maybe something else was going on like a ton of lag. [13:17]
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mercutioif /whois is hanging it usually means the server you're connected to itself is lagged [18:16]
mhoranThat’s why I sent a message and it went through immediately.
Pretty weird.
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mercutioyeah [18:33]
danopiasome clients map `/whois nick` as `WHOIS nick nick` which asks the local server to route the WHOIS to one server, specifically, the server that <nick> is connected to. supposedly your client did that and the server never responded since it was about to netsplit anyway
by routing to the server that the remote user is on, you often get more information back
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mercutioah interesting
i've seen that other whois but i thought it was the server name then the nick
undernet used to tell you how long someone had been idle on the server they were on but not remote or something iirc
hmm if i do /quote whois danopia and /quote whois danopia danopia then i get idle time with both
i also get idle time with normal /whois, so it seems weechat is doing the latter
hmm if i do /quote whois wolfe.freenode.net danopia then it also works
so it seems your nick is a way to shortcut remote server
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danopiai don't get idle time for you unless i specify your nick twice
so supposedly we're seeing different things :D
mercutio: you're right about arg order btw - it's just that the first arg (which is now server) can be a nick instead, and it acts as a server lookup
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mercutioyeah
i wrote an irc client in late 90s
so i'm sligtly familiar with things
well /quote lets you send raw content through
are you using weechat?
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danopiai'm currently using one i wrote myself. but i definitely forgot that it wasn't an optional second arg, so you still got me, heh [19:04]
mercutiooh cool [19:04]
danopiano, a homebrew web-based client :p [19:04]
mercutiosweet mine was cli
used gnu readline
but other than that was real basic
used hardly any resources compared to others though
great when i only had 24mb ram
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danopiaheh, so like the opposite of Slack
i never figured out readline so my CLI clients were always super crappy
i think most people i know on irc wrote a client before... the question is how long they managed to stick to it
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mkbI don't know about a usable human client but a lot of people have written bots... [19:11]
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mercutioreadline is much easier than doing your own :)
i am not sure where the source is now but it wasn't terribly complicated
i think readline uses callbacks
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m0undsi have a crappy python bot on another net that does url shortening, weather, etc [19:35]

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