#arpnetworks 2019-04-24,Wed

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acf_perhaps an attempt to use it in an amplification attack
without realizing it won't participate
I can send 4GB of packets to any host and there isn't much it can do about it :P
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mercutio4gb isn't really that much these days
there are so many gigabit connected hackable hosts i suppose
[04:20]
mhoranI was amazed to discover 100 GbE interconnects when I was looking at Google's peering page. That definitely wasn't a thing when I worked at Cisco. I think 10GbE had just come out. [04:29]
mercutiothe 40 to 100 gbe shift was pretty quick
it's "reasonably affordable" to get 40 to 100 gigabit interconnects now
it's base 10 gigabit stuff that's struggling to come down
[04:29]
mhoranYeah. [04:30]
mercutiolike if you want a 16 port 10 gigabit switch for a small company you can't really get anything cheap [04:30]
mhoranRun fiber to every desk. 😂 [04:30]
mercutioeven 100 gigabit ethernet cards for pc are "reasonably affordable"
like $400 USD or something
[04:30]
mhoranHuh. [04:31]
mercutiothey're pci-e x16
mellanox make one with pcie 4
but hardly anything supports pcie 4 yet
apparently some amd boards may
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Arista-DCS-7280SE-72-F-48-Port-10GbE-100GbE-7280E-Switch-1-Year-Warranty/273398255690?hash=item3fa7ce504a:g:ltQAAOSw1dJbbIPL
[04:31]
mhoranDang. [04:33]
mercutiohttps://www.ebay.com/itm/Mellanox-MCX456A-ECAT-CX456A-ConnectX-4-VPI-EDR-IB-100GbE-Dual-Port-QSFP28-PCIe/323751423135?hash=item4b6116ac9f:m:mimSiA5cDCfvjWmI5dPNSeQ [04:33]
mhoranI was mislead by the model number, totally thought that was a Cisco. [04:34]
mercutioheh
arista are gaining market share rapidly
[04:34]
mhoranYeah it's a name I never heard of and now keeps coming up. [04:34]
mercutioso are huawei though
oh wow
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Arista-DCS-7280CR-48-F-7280R2-48x-100GbE-QSFP-8x-40GbE-QSFP-Switch-Router/401736132191?hash=item5d8956e65f:g:5woAAOSwYqVcb43U
surely it means 48 10gbe
[04:34]
mhoranWow. [04:35]
mercutionope the data sheet says the same
i think google are actually using 100gbe to their servers?
but they're running their own switches i think
well someone probably makes them for them
but they spec what they want
i kind of wish infiniband was more popular
hmm this web site says 25gigabit is going to take off
[04:35]
mhoranYeah I was pumped about that.
HUh.
[04:38]
mercutioi haven't seen anything that does 25 gigabit yet
there's also rdma over converged ethernet
but i don't think that's really taking off either
hmm this site says 400gbe should become big this y ear
oh no hangon it says shipments will start in december this year
damn this arista switch has 16gb of ram
and 24gb of packet buffer memory
si i suppose the packet buffer memory isn't included in the 16gb
oh it is 60x100gbe
i wonder when people will habitually have more than gigabit internet to the desktop
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acf_I have a friend who's going to work at arista in a couple months
apparently they're really pushing the cutting edge right now
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brycecHuh... zeit tripped the "'eth0' total download 4.8 GB matches limit [download rate > 3 GB in last 1 hour]" alert at about the same time as yesterday...
No discernible spike in traffic traffic, not that it alerted anyways. But enough to trip the alert.
(Normal hourly rx traffic is 150MB, so 3GB is quite the anomaly.)
Not seeing anything out of the ordinary right now though. Drat.
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mercutio: Are y'all moving ARP Metal right now? I thought I had until next week (and I was mid-OpenBSD-upgrade!)
...or apparently less time? Re-read the email, it says it was supposed to have been done last weekend.
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uptime 5 minutes, yep... Seems like it.
Not cools, knocking me offline outside your prescribed maintenance window, guys!
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mercutiowhat mtl host?
there's no reason that i know of that your server should have gone down
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acf_seeing connectivity problems here
on arp metal
[23:19]
mercutioipv6? ipv4?
packet loss or unable to reach?
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brycecs/minutes/hours [23:20]
BryceBot<brycec> uptime 5 hours, yep... Seems like it. [23:20]
acf_http://paste.debian.net/1079242/ [23:20]
brycecmercutio: stl21 [23:20]
acf_trace to 8.8.8.8
lots of problems the past few weeks
I might need to move stuff to ec2 temporarily or something
[23:20]
mercutiohmm i can trace 8.8.8.8 fine [23:21]
acf_I cannot, from 174.136.111.132 [23:22]
mercutiohmm i'm in taht same /24 where i'm testing from [23:22]
acf_I'm 95% sure this isn't a problem with my system [23:23]
mercutioho hmm
yeh i can trace from arp to there but not from home
checking
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brycecMy stl21 machine is very unhappy about life - at a mininum its networking is funar. Not sure what yet, still working through logs to see what happened 5 hours ago, why it mysteriously shutdown [23:23]
acf_note that I *can* reach some internet destinations [23:24]
brycec(systemd didn't even start!) [23:24]
acf_hence how I can ssh into this in the first place [23:24]
mercutiothere was a second round of migrations earlier today but there were hardly any machines in that [23:24]
acf_but it's broken cloudfront and something else v important [23:24]
mercutioit was around 8 hours ago though
and customers involved were emailed
i don't think your one was ni that list
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acf_afaict this seems to have started roughly 2 hours ago [23:25]
mercutioyeah taht's odd [23:25]
brycecmercutio: turns out it was, but Garry's emails went to my wrong folder [23:25]
mercutiooh [23:25]
acf_gotta run for a couple minutes but I'll be back
(still broken of course)
[23:26]
brycecfuck fuck fuck [23:26]
mercutiodid monitoring not alert you? [23:26]
brycecmercutio: I'm not sure what's up with that monitoring [23:26]
mercutiothis is odd
i'm only seeing your other subnet with arp entries acf
is your other subnet working fine?
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up_the_ironsacf_: let me know if you see any difference now [23:31]
acf_mercutio: yeah, my 174.136.x.x subnet is routed via the other one
so it would make sense for there to be no arp entries for that
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mercutioyeah i clicked after taht [23:35]
acf_oh ok looks like it might be back? [23:35]
mercutiosweet [23:35]
acf_yeah afaict it's good now [23:36]
mercutioit would have been affecting traffic from one router in but not the other
that's why some stuff worked and some didn't
and only that /27
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acf_ahhh interesting [23:36]
up_the_ironsWe don't have OSPF redistributing static routes
and we have very, very few customers with static routes
So we didn't see this at first
once we have all customers moved to the new switch, this issue will not appear again
we're almost done
This happened a couple hours ago because I started announcing our IP blocks out a 2nd BGP session, for redundancy, and traffic going into that router then didn't know how to get to your /27
So I've just removed those announcements for now
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acf_ahh I see
yeah as soon as mercutio mentioned it only affected my /27 I thought it had something to do with the static route haha
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