#arpnetworks 2018-05-02,Wed

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nathaniWhats a decent provider that provides good value for authenticated SMTP relay services, specifically for use with ISPs that block port 25 outbound? Looking at volumes of under 2000 messages/day [01:47]
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nathani: I have a customer that has been using smtp2go for over a year with little fanfare
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dneAmazon SES is $0.10 per 1000 e-mails [01:56]
pyvpxcan't beat that. dang. [01:57]
mercutiohmm i've heard of smtp2go [02:09]
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dnemailgun is free for up to 10k e-mails/month [02:21]
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brycecThat was a fun error. One of ARP's resolvers just now was really insistent that github.com didn't exist. (Couldn't tell you which one, only that trying to fetch these Go vendors resulted in a whole bunch of "unable to resolve github.com" errors) [09:17]
fIorz"unable to resolve" sounds more like failed resolution than "doesn't exist"? [09:19]
brycecIf you want to be technical, yes.
(I realize they are separte, distinct return codes)
"ssh: Could not resolve hostname github.com: No address associated with hostname"
Anyhow, thought I'd mention it so anyone else that might complain about DNS hiccups would know they weren't alone.
I ran the command again a few seconds later and everything went through.
(The other error: "fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/matttproud/golang_protobuf_extensions/': Could not resolve host: github.com")
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fIorzwell, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference in this case, but one of them could lead to serious problems and would thus be a bug, the other is just an outage that any well-built system should be able to handle
like, "doesn't exist" would cause mail to bounce, "resolution failed" should cause it to be queued
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mercutiosome resolvers are braindead and give domain name failure when they can't reach a nameserver
a lot of times with big sites when they don't work it's do with anycast type issues and sometimes they give anycast nameservers in the same region
so if one region gets blackholed for whatever reason you've got more chances of problems
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mhoranSo frustrating. My ISP does that.
So I have to use one of the alternatives.
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mercutiothat said with things like cloudflare that also want to serve content from that region it's more understandable
damn i thought it was lame windows resolvers that did that mhoran :)
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