[03:39] *** reardencode has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:27] mercutio: nah, that's enforcing mode on stretch - stock install [08:59] *** nathani has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:59] *** mike-bur1 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [09:00] *** mike-bur1 has joined #arpnetworks [09:25] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [09:29] *** Guest96546 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:36] *** nathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [09:42] Ugh, just heard another podcast say “backslash” for a character in a URL. #petpeeve [09:42] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [09:42] That's confusing at best! [09:45] yeah, and sadly, it can sorta work in windows machines [09:45] so people get broken confirmation that there's no problem. [09:45] That's what she said!! [09:45] ahh, I missed BryceBot! [09:46] I just read the SO answer about that -- apparently Chrome re-writes \ to / in URLs, for IE compatibility. That's wild. [09:46] ok, that's even scarier [09:47] well, how do you separate out people who say whack-whack for \\unc\path vs. a singular "whack" for /option (e.g., cmd /c) [09:47] windows be crazy? [09:48] I try not to think about windows users in general [09:48] http://gemal.dk/mozilla/slashy.html - in Chrome the "this link" renders with the / even though the HTML has \ . [09:48] That's Chrome on GNU. [09:48] *** mike-bur1 is now known as mike-burns [09:48] GNU? You mean Linux? [09:48] Sure. [09:49] or is there already an implementation of Hurd? [09:49] Ha there is but I did mean GNU/systemd/Linux. [09:49] I've partied with Linus. I've partied with RMS. Because of that, I'll never say "GNU/Linux" because it's just RMS trying to ride the coat-tails of what Linus did. [09:50] Linus actually put me in a headlock the day I said "what do you think about RMS trying to relabel your work as GNU/Linux?" :) [09:50] iirc, there's a Hurd out there somewhere that runs [09:50] celebrity cage match between the two would be interesting [09:51] no, Linus would just concede publicly. [09:51] I mostly deal with the userland -- I don't like Linux so I don't really do kernel hacking -- and I have to look up GNU stuff all the time because I've only memorized BSD commands. So it's GNU to me. [09:51] it's only privately that he's a bit more insistant [09:51] i think they all, in their own way, have some pioneering accomplishments [09:52] Indeed. I was on a cruise where Maddog moderated a shouting match between Eric Raymond and RMS, saying "we needed BOTH of you!" [09:53] that was a very interesting experience. [09:53] i'd be curious what your opinion on Potterware is, RandalSchwartz [09:54] and I believe he was correct. Eric brought the notion of "open source" to the world. Richard brought the notion of "the four freedoms". [09:54] I think Open Source is ultimately winnning, and card-carrying FSF members are on the decline [09:54] need to google Potterware [09:54] never heard of it [09:54] systemd [09:55] ... http://www.potterware.com [09:55] something about clay from Malta? [09:55] systemd, firewalld, crond, logind ... borgd [09:55] PulseAudio. [09:56] probably the easiest way to explain it, with a gif: https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0444/21/1411970433039.gif [09:56] still waiting to get him on FLOSS Weekly. :) [09:56] he's promised twice now, but not responded in email [09:57] who, Pottering? [10:01] yeah [10:01] I met him in person at a conference last year. [10:01] i just wonder what their goals are [10:03] We may find out in a future FLOSS Weekly! [10:09] heh [10:09] only if he responds to my email :) [10:27] *** brycec-M has joined #arpnetworks [10:27] s/Potter/Poetter/ [10:27] who, Poettering? [10:28] @ud poetterware [10:28] poetterware: Poetterware is a type of software mostly found on Linux systems, for example systemd, pulseaudio, policykit, consolekit, xdg-open, colord and more. -- This software generally works very well and solves really complicated problems, but if it doesn't behave the way it should, you will have a hard time debugging the issue (e.g. via dbus), working around it (by quick hacks) or use alternative software. It may be [10:28] written by Lennart Poettering or the freedesktop foundation or other participants in the ecosystem. Example: "You're using Gentoo Linux with systemd? Yes, although it's poetterware it works very well for me." [10:28] (It helps if you spell it correctly 😉) [12:32] *** qbit[m] has joined #arpnetworks [21:00] *** mercutio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [21:22] *** mercutio has joined #arpnetworks [21:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mercutio [23:29] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:29] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks